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thought was a xanax or percocet. we talk to doctors on the front lines and find out what's being done to stop. at senator lindsey graham will join us, dna straighter and telegram, and an important conversation -- tomorrow night at 9 pm eastern. right after three 60. cnn primetime special jill biden abroad starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tonight, jill biden takes the world stage. her first trip to africa as first lady. >> the young people of namibia, are not only our future but our presidents. >> she lands are tough questions on the biggest issues back home. >> when you say to those people who say, maybe he's tool to be? >> while serving as an important voice for the biden administration abroad. >> you are the keepers of democracy. >> dr. biden speaks about her mission, the challenges facing the continent. >> everybody needs to come together to make sure that these people are dying. because of the drought.
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>> and her inspirational reunion with the women that she first met more than ten years ago. >> i said, you can go anywhere, be anything. and you said, no, i'm staying in my community. >> plus, her family's decision on president biden's run in 2024. >> any chance at this point that he's not going to run? >> cnn primetime, jill biden abroad, starts now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening, i'm sara sidner. tonight on cnn primetime, and in-depth interview with the first lady of the united states. a one-on-one with jill biden. who returned from a five-day trip to africa. cnn was in africa alongside the first lady as she tore through namibia and can, yes equal raise awareness about the severe drought, the hunger crisis in the horn of africa. championing the role of women in democracy. and so much more. we have exclusive footage to show. you along with the fascinating, wide-ranging conversations with our own, arlette saenz. who asked dr. biden, some of the most pressing questions many americans have about 2024. they delve in to the discussion
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about the presidents age, and the classified documents found on biden's properties. -- and abby philip are here to discuss the news from this interview. but first, arlette is with us with our incredibly strong reporting. we ask a lot of questions, and she seemed to answered handedly. >> there is really no topics that were off limits. we were able to speak with the first lady, about a host of issues relating to africa. but first, we also got her thoughts on things like 2024. whether he will seek reelection, the questions about his age, as well as her thoughts on some of the former first ladies. >> we are here in our cars, but
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there are a host of issues, decisions waiting for you back home. maybe the biggest is the decision an announcement about 2024 campaign. your husband was asked in an interview if he was running. and he joked, he had to call you to find out. >> was this recently? >> yes, it was. recent summer going to the source. where do things stand when the announcements coming? >> he said he's intense tehran. so, nothing has been planned gad. i think he's been so busy with being in ukraine, handling some of the crisis at home. so, he's putting that first. he's putting america's business before he's putting his own. >> has the decision made amongst the family that he's going to run? >> it's joe's decision. we support whatever he wants to go. if he's in, or there. if he wants to do something else, where there too. >> is there any chance at this point that he's not going to run? >> not in my book. >> you're all four?
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it >> i'm all for it, of course. there's so many things that he's done. brought people together, brought leaders together. so, he says, i think you heard him say the state of the union. i'm not yet finished. i'm not yet finish. so, i see his vision. and i hope americans see his vision as well. >> your husband is 80 years old. if he wins a second term, he'd be 82 at inaguration. what do you say to those people who say, maybe he's too old to be president are those four questions and conversations to be having? >> i say a look at what he's done. look at what he's doing. look at how he's got the good bill of health from the doctors. for his physicals. but how many 30 holds could travel -- to get on the train, go nine more hours, go to ukraine, meet with president zelenskyy. his energy levels, his level of
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passion. look at the man, look what he's doing, what he continues to do each and every day. and make your decision. it's up to the american people. >> nikki haley, one of the republican candidates is calling for mental competency chance for those politicians over the age of 75. what do you think about that? >> that's ridiculous. >> when your husband never take one of those? >> we haven't even discussed. we would never even discuss something like that. >> you talked a little bit about your husband traveling to ukraine and poland this past
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week. you also have told us that you found out last minute that he was gonna be making a secret trip to ukraine. what was that like for those ten hours when he was taking that river ride into ukraine, and no one knew, how worried were you in those moments? >> i was of course worried. i was really worried. but one thing, and i need to say this with all my heart. one thing that i truly believe than, is the strength of our military and how everything was so planned out. and the secret service, what an amazing job they did. pulling off the trap. and keeping my husband say. >> i'm watching the tv this morning and i'm saying, it's incredible what's going on in the air, in the sea. i hope americans really take note of it. we need to give the support to all of our support to our military. because of what a great job they do. the secret service is right there, hand-in-hand. >> or you able to keep tagline? >> oh yes. >> how do you communicate?
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>> through text. -- >> no, he wasn't texting me on the train. but, you know it was in the back of my mind. so, i was kind of aware that he was safe. i just set a lot of prayers. >> did he give you a call when he made it back into? poland >> oh yes, yeah. >> what was his reflection on this? >> we didn't really talk about. i think it's just better to talk about it in private, you know. >> have you had the chance to talk about this trip? yet >> oh yeah, we spoke in a couple times. we've face timed, so, and he looks great. so, he doesn't look tired. >> how often do you guys face time? >> i don't know a couple times a day. >> even if you're just in d. c.? >> sure, yeah, i'm traveling, i'm work. he calls a lot. >> does he call you more, does
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he call you? >> i think he calls me more. >> i want to turn to another issue that has come up amongst republicans ally. your son hunter has been a target for republicans over the years. and likely will be in the years to come. how does your family deal with that intense focus on hunter? >> we deal with it by, having different perspective. i love hunter. and all support him in any way i can. and that's how i look at things. >> has the wave of investigations into him, does that factor into any of the thinking heading into 2020? for >> now. >> the justice department has appointed a special counsel to look into the way that your husband handle classified documents when he left the vice presidency. one duty first find out about
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these documents, were you surprised? >> when the rest of america did. i was really surprised. we have no idea so i think we found out when everybody halstead. >> where in the house where they, where they secured a location that people have access to them? >> i think that they were at biden penn center, there was some at your -- >> and there was some at your home in wilmington as? well >> those were in a garage, and believe me, arlette, i don't have time to go through the boxes in the garage. we had no idea that they were even down there. >> i want to turn back to one campaign question, you and i -- >> you are not giving up. >> everybody is asking me. >> everybody is asking. do you ever worry about how grueling campaign might be on him? >> i think every campaign is growling. i don't care whether your 20, 30, or whatever h. campaigns now have become real ruling.
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and you've been on a lot of campaigns. you need to see the difference between even ten years ago and today. >> i know you guys are beginning to these family meetings. was there one definitive family meeting that was, okay, we're doing this. our hasn't been a rolling conversation? >> rolling. last time to have a family meeting, and we've had family meetings other times. i did sort of rolling. just because of the pace of our lives. so, if i can grab and say, hey what are you thinking about, what are your thoughts. or our daughter. so, i'm keeping tabs. >> in your mind this is happening? >> absolutely. you want to come? you want to come on the trail? >> i might be covering you guys on the trail. >> okay, good.
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>> we're back now with arlette. we're also joined luckily by audi cornish and abby philip. arlette, i'll start with you. analysts, so you asked all of the questions and the american public has been discussing about joe biden. and then you get into what jill biden's been up. two were you surprised by any of our answers? >> i think that her answer regarding 2024 is quite interesting. i think the way that she answered that question really makes it seem as if it's not a matter of if, but really well in this campaign will be launched. but she also does leave an opening for him, should he decide not to run in 2024. she said it's joes decision. and they'll support him if he. does and then she says, if he decides to do something else, will also support him there. it does provide you a little bit of answer both ways. but these conversations i had with her over the course of this five days in africa. it really does seem like things are moving towards him running for reelection again. >> i do want to ask about this
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controversy, i know what to call it over a. it's come up again and again, and nikki haley pushed to a different level when she talked about a competency stats. jill biden responded with it's ridiculous. audi, what do you make of her response to that? >> i mean, first of all i think she's more surefooted in general in terms of how she approaches the press, and talks to the press, she's been in this game for a lot very long. time it's different for first lady michelle obama who married someone that's not in the public life when they first got together. joe biden's been in this for a while. al but it also underscores the problems, here they, are she's on a trip visiting countries in africa, the posture that this administration's had towards africa is radically different than the entire ministration. but it's a conversation that can't be, had because not only are people focused on whether he's gonna, run but even being
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able to ask the question should be at all because of his. age i think that really gives you a sense of the kind of obstacle. >> it also struck me that she was answering the question over and over again. every chance he. got even when they were asking her about it. >> she was ready with. announcer >> she's talking about the ukraine trip, she's talking about is stamina, his ability to do all of that. she's keenly aware that that this is unavoidable question about her. husband and she is injecting in at every moment an opportunity to say, this is a guy you get who can keep up, it's a guy who has what it takes, whose all there and to audi's point jill biden is perhaps one of the most prepared women to ever be first lady because of how long she's been joe biden's wife. and i didn't really see any doubt in her, in this interview i think she thinks her husband conduit. and she's kind of wondering why we keep asking her about. it and that really i think tells you everything that you need to know. she probably be the first to say, it's time for us to take a step back. and that's not a woman who wants to take a step. bat >> she made that clear, i
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want to ask about classified documents. she said something that struck me. we found out when the rest of the country dead. when she says we, i mean is a plausible that they have no idea that they were there? >> it's certainly plausible that they didn't know they were there. i'm not sure how both of them finding at when the rest of the country to. by, gas it's plausible that they didn't know they were there. this is a former vice president of the united states. he's not going through old files in his home. or and his office. it's just not how these things are done. so, it's very likely that when these things were box stop, brought to the home. they weren't even looked at for a long time. is that an excuse, probably. not and certainly not in the eye of the justice department. but remember, one thing, the
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boxes in the biden office, some of the things in those boxes had to do with blow biden. that strikes me as materials that would've been kept as they were and not rifled through even by the former vice president. >> at the same time the she's been somewhat neutralized by mike pants also having documents. obviously, the trump ongoing investigation and i think for the public at this point it's like everybody's got a box they should figure this out. it's like waiting for the justice department to see if there's anything more nefarious. to your point, though anything related to hunter, on anything connected to ham expect to hear more of that on any forthcoming congressional hearing. especially led by house republicans. >> we should be clear, joe biden did not hold on to these after he learned they were there. and there is a difference between him -- >> he's not under a vindication for obstruction and anyway. are not cooperating. which is different from the four. president >> same goes for pence. arlette, audi, and abby, are staying with.
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primetime, arlette saenz in-depth interview with the first lady while she was an. africa first lady jill biden goes abroad, continues right now. >> you've said that being first lady is a bit harder than you had imagined. which parts of it are more difficult than you had thought? >> the schedule. i mean that's one part of it. with being a mom and grandma. and a wife. you need to fill those roles, then you layer on first lady, you layer on teacher. so, like you're saying. trying to balance it all. you need to be very organized, which i think all teachers are. but you know. i think you need to find balance. and that's what every day i strive to find, balance. >> i know you said that you're not the presidents adviser,
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you're his spouse. but you do hold a lot of influence i'm sure over the years, you've learned when to weigh in and what not to. so, what are the areas you do operate advice on? >> well certainly, i tell him stories. things i've seen. and things people want. and where their challenges are. so it's not that i'm weighing in. it's like, let me tell you what i saw. or what i heard. or what people are saying to me. so, it's in that context. because i'm not every day in the classroom, i'm out somewhere in the united states, i think it's a good balance, really. >> there's a lot of focus on the role, the impact you have on him. how does he help you? >> sometimes, i may not see things from his perspective. let's just put it that way. so, he offers both sides. i'm always a little bit better,
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sometimes this person feels this way, and he's very good at that, understanding why people feel the way they do. he understands both sides. which is part of his strength, i think. that he can work with people as he's done, arlette, on both sides of the aisle. he may not agree with them, but he does understand their perspective. >> are there areas where the two of you agree to disagree? >> yes. >> what are they? >> i don't think i want to get into that. i want to create another argument. >> i want to ask you about jimmy carter. what do you think jimmy carter will ultimately be remembered for? >> i think he'll be remembered as a great humanitarian. all that he has done to help people, he never stopped. he never stopped helping americans. whether it was habitat for humanity, building homes, going into communities.
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or traveling the world, helping people all over. i feel a little sad even saying this. because he's still with us. thank god. but i think that will be his legacy. >> you and your husband visited him and rosalynn carter in their home in plains, georgia, georgia, in 2020. can you tell us what that moment was like, your introductions with them? >> he and joe get along so well. they have so much in common. they talked politics the whole time. and what was going on, and they have a real ease with one another. you've seen it. and they do so much together. and she's so much a part of his life. i don't know, i worry about her. >> in what way?
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>> what will she do? they've been married over 70 years. it's a really strong partnership. >> and you have conversations with rosalynn about being first lady? >> now, i don't think i have. she's always been very supportive. i, quite frankly -- most of the first ladies. if you ever need anything, if you want to talk, if there's something on your mind, if i can help you in some way, they've been really great. >> but he spoke into millennia trump? >> not melania. >> when you leave the white house, is it your intention to keep a similar type of relationship with first ladies? offered vice where they need? >> sure, absolutely. i don't care whether they're republican or democrat. i think it's a big role. i think, if they ask, i'm not gonna -- but if they ask, of course. i mean, it's a very small number, at this point, of women,
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and i think we have to support one another. >> the first ladies passion to highlight women supporting women goes well beyond the united states. >> so, we can look to namibia and say, look, it's working their. it's gonna work for us as well. >> how jill biden is finding inspiration half a world away when our cnn primetime special continues. lomita feed is 101 years old this year and counting.
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familiarity with the continent, as she tried to spread her messages from both namibia to kenya. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> dr. jill biden in africa. for the first time as first lady. a return to a continent that is familiar to her. she traveled to africa five times a second lady. within our debut trip as first lady, biden kicks things off in namibia. a young country, where preserving democracy is at the top of the mind. >> you are the keepers of democracy. amen, that's right. >> she says the relationships he's built as first lady drew or to the country. >> we have the africa u.s. found summit in december. i met monika, the spouse of the president have namibia. we just hit it off so fast. she said, come to my country. [applause] >> why is it important for you
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to build these type of relationships with other first ladies? >> i think the one thing that joe taught me is all politics is personal. and that's true. once you have these connections, you can call on someone when you need help. when you need to be lifted up. when you can support programs. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> the five-day trip, she pushed for women to use their voices. for young people to get involved. using her own experience as an educator for more than 30 years to connect with locals. >> what is your favorite english author? >> yes, shakespeare. >> shakespeare. oh. wow! >> with her granddaughter, naomi, in tow, she offered simple gestures to children. >> look, that's -- >> on the flight from namibia
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to kenya, no time for a break. dr. biden still teaches full-time back home juggling her work as first lady. focusing on helping military families and working to end cancer. >> how do you spend this time on the flights between countries? >> reading. you see these books. i spend my time reading. grading papers, grading. i'm an english teacher. >> biden's tour during a long tradition of first ladies visiting africa. starting with patricia nixon and 1970. two continuing for hillary clinton, to milan yet trump. laura bush showed her husbands program to fight hiv and a. i. d. s.. >> it does seem like it insurmountable problem. the fact is you can make progress. >> michelle obama urged countries to educate young girls. >> these are young women, transforming their communities. and their countries.
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>> on the ground in kenya, biden promoting economic empowerment for women one of the country's first lady. and met with young people on the importance of safe sex. >> focus on condom, says that promote birth control pill? >> on biden's final day in kenya. we drove about three outer south of nairobi over bumpy dirt robes to the rural village of -- part of the horn of africa suffering from drought. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> nearly 500 people gathered there to receive medical checkups and nutritional assistance. the first lady talking with members of the community whose livelihoods are threatened. and mothers struggling to feed their children. >> all their livestock are dying. as we came down that long road, the livestock and how they're just skin and bones. so, they're left with nothing. some of the women told me that they're walking three hours a day. to go into a populated area. so they really need a lot of help. >> what more needs to be done? >> everybody needs to come together to make sure that
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these people are not dying because of the drought. because believe me, arlette, they have nothing. and their children are malnourished. and they're receiving from usaid, daily food supplements. but that's not enough. it's not a meal. it's a supplement. >> having visited the same drought plagued region in 2011, when she toward the country's largest refugee camp. it's an issue she is passionate about. >> we're right on the edge. we're right on the precipice, i think, of a famine. which is what i saw. thousands of refugees coming from somalia, walking miles, and miles with children. who were sick, trying to carry them. and these children were so weak. we're right on the edge. we need to act. now. >> the u.s. announced it's
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sending more than 100 $26 million in additional food assistance to kenya. -- the first lady pushing for more countries to pitch in a. it will also helping her visit offers the community as simpler message. >> i think showing up matters. to give them a little piece of hope. that things are gonna get better. that's what i hope i did. that's what i hope they feel. that when they go home tonight, they might feel a little bit better. >> more from arlette's interview, including the message the first lady says she's bringing to africa. after former president trump used derogatory language to refer to some african nations. >> we want to say, hey, we're back. ♪ ♪ ♪ you know you have a team behind you that can help you. not having to worry about the future makes it possible to make the present as best as it can be for everybody.
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>> welcome back. two years after the trump presidency, force lady jill biden went to africa with a message from the united states. here is more of cnn's interview. >> you are in africa paving the way for other white house officials to come. your husband, president biden has committed to visiting this year. when you go, what's the main takeaway you share with him from this trip? >> i think we'll talk about democracy, certainly. furthering democracy as we talked about in namibia, a young democracy, then come to come here in kenya, to say to our global partners, we're standing with you.
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i saw, certainly, women's empowerment here. i saw youth groups. what the american programs are doing. and people are responding to them, the youth which is so important here as you know. 75% of the population is under 30. which is amazing in and of itself. >> what impact do you think a visit by a first lady has from a presidents visit? >> i hope it has a major impact. i think it just creates awareness. about a lot of programs that we support. i think it does have an impact. i take that back, i can incorporate that in my speeches, when i'm going around our country. in talking about really the price of freedom and democracy. >> do you think those connections that you're able to make us first lady that perhaps the president can't?
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>> well, i think as a teacher, myself, i think maybe those connections are a little stronger. joe tends toward policy. as he should. and i try to go in a little bit a softer direction. >> we've talked about how africa has a large youth population. it's home to some of the fastest-growing economies in the world. a lot of countries are trying to make inroads here. including china. do you feel at all that the u. s. is losing influence in africa? >> well, i don't know whether they're losing interest, but i can't speak to that. i can speak to america's interest. so, america wants to keep reassuring the countries, and the leaders of africa, like, we didn't forget you. we were isolationist pretty much for the last four years, of the last administration. i think countries around the world, i mean, whether it was
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nato, whether it was mexico, canada, all of these alliances that we formed. latin america, they were wondering, hey america, what happened to you? we used to be partners, we used to strive towards the same things. not that we all agreed on everything. but certainly, there was a dialogue, and it's sort of like america, you know stepped away. like no, we don't want to deal with every other country. so we want to say, hey, we're back. >> why do you think it's hard for americans sometimes to pay attention to what's happening here in africa? >> the one thing i find about americans, and this is what i found the last time. when i came here in 2011. this is how i got here. i was watching tv, i saw these children dying, and i was shocked. that so many countries have so much food and yet people are dying.
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and right then, i called my chief of staff and said we need to do something about this. we need to create awareness. and we did. i think within three days we were on an airplane. we created awareness, americans responded, they open their hearts to see people, children just skin and bones, and they responded with their pocketbooks, so sometimes they need to take a nudge, hey, i know things are tough in your household, or this is a bad month, but hey, look at what somebody else is dealing with. >> you talked about your way to connect with people here as an educator, after all these experiences with these young people, young adults, what do you take back to your classrooms to share? >> i have so many students from other countries that i learned more about their countries, i don't think i take much back to
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them. i think they give me so much. one of my students, i texted her yesterday on the one year anniversary of ukraine, the war in ukraine and she i said i hope you're okay. how is your family? how are you doing? and she said, hey doctor b, can i come in and have lunch with you on tuesday. so she'll come. and that's the sort of connections. arlette, have a lot of frida fundamental law to different countries that come to the united states to get their education. and sometimes you just wonder, how did you get here with all the violence that you've seen? all the war that you've been through, i learned so much, really, from them. >> they're back with us. after hearing remarks from africa, i'm curious if -- she tried to make a big point
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here about the difference between the two administrations. the former, and her husband's administration. >> you heard her there talk about how they viewed former president trump's administration as really engaging in this isolationist policy, and that she and her husband are really going to bring back more american involvement in the continent. we know that in the coming year, it's gonna be a diplomatic push from the biden white house. the first lady was the first of the four principles to travel that this year. we've also learned that vice president kamala harris is actually expected to visit multiple countries in sub-saharan africa later this month. president biden himself has also promised a trip there. now, the first lady isn't really gonna get into international policy. she told me she views her role there as being this soft power diplomacy. but there will be big questions for vice president harris and president biden when they travel to africa to show that the u.s. is actually committed in their investments there and
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what they're trying to do with the continent. >> the chinese -- and people are watching what china is doing in the african continent and what russia is doing, partly because of what's happening in the world globally. but the chinese have traded with africa about four times as much compared to the united states. is this -- i'll start with you, abby. is this something that the u. s. is catching up on the relationship with africa because of this? or are we reading that wrong? >> it's an important question. i actually, a few weeks ago, spoke with ambassador linda thomas-greenfield, and she views china and russia as catching up to the united states in terms of the relationships that the united states has had with multiple countries on the continent, especially in sub-saharan africa, over decades. but what that means at this moment is that for china, catching up means really investing quite a lot in this moment in africa.
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when you talk about the food crisis, when you talk about oil, russia is such a huge player in that. the united states is aware of that, they're trying to counter that, and as arlette was just saying, they are keenly aware that they believe in the four years of the trump administration there was time lost. >> you'll notice the language from the second lady, but also tony blinken, is partnership. hi, we're still here. hi, we still want to be involved in what's going on here. so i think that it's the idea of reengagement in the world, and that made mean the continent of africa, that may also mean maintaining support in ukraine. but it's trying to reassert the u.s., our position to ourselves, about what is our role internationally. >> really good insights and a great interview that we're not done with. thank you both for being here. well, in nairobi, an emotional
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>> two roll model slipping thousands of miles apart reunite in nairobi, kenya. years after forming a special bond. our cameras were rolling, and cnn's arlette saenz was there to see when first lady jill biden had this union. and, she joins us now. this was quite touching, wasn't it arlette? >> yes, this was a special moment between these two women. the first lady of the united states and this woman she met years earlier. a visit that the first lady has described as something that really changed her life. we were there as the two women caught up with each other on each other's lives. >> oh, my goodness. hello. [laughter] >> it was a reunion more than ten years in the making. --
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and informal housing settlement in nairobi. >> are my children? -- >> he was four! but now, i have salma. salma is two years and doing well. >> dr. biden first met her in a trip to kenya in 2010 when she was second lady. the two immediately showed a bond. >> this woman, alicia, is one of the young women who is a role model for many of the young women. we talked about living in the slum, and when i said to her, aaliyah, are you trying to get out of the slum? and she said, oh no, i love your my whole life. this is my community. >> remember i said you're so smart? you could go anywhere, anything. he said, no, i'm staying in my
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community. >> yeah. >> i remember that so well. >> i want to fight for them. >> two to her where, she still there and still fighting. >> but, i feel grateful. because it's every day fight for them, and that's why -- because there is to go far. you go to university, be anywhere. >> she became a business owner, opening a restaurant. she was forced to close during the covid-19 pandemic, but recently received a grant to reopen. >> known to support me operating my business. i think this, this will be a great opportunity. because i've been wishing for -- it will be, like, a great opportunity for them. >> during that 13 years apart,
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aaliyah also kept tabs on the first lady. >> so, how is your family? >> my family's been good. it's been a journey. and since i left side -- because that's when my husband was vice president. now, he's president. >> are you going to -- when everything was happening, i was like, one of the -- yeah, go, people. so i felt so much grateful. this is salma. >> salma? how are you? >> i want to talk about that moment, the reunion you had in kibera with aaliyah. what was that like? >> oh my gosh, i love. when i met her, she was such a beacon of hope. she had a little four-year-old son, and she was running a program to teach young women about violence and domestic violence and how to protect themselves against rape, and she was so impressive. to see her again, ten years later, and now of course, her son is 18. she has a new daughter, two years old. and she's still at. she's still working for her community. and i think it's such a strong message. people try to help their own communities. >> the two women hoping this meeting won't be their last. >> i'll never forget you in my entire life. because i was so excited to meet you again. and thank you so much.
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>> i'm thankful for us together. >> yeah, sure. and i hope maybe one, i'll have time to visit america. see how america's, how you are doing over there. yeah. hopefully. >> arlette saenz, thank you for great reporting, and a reminder you can see more of our last conversation with the first lady at cnn. com. thanks for watching. stay tuned. the news continues here on cnn. to test new advanced care body washes that start solving skin issues in the shower. it's a very great way to control your breakouts. for my clients with dry skin, i absolutely recommend this product. new dove men advanced care body washes.
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