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and now more details of the woman who took part of the january 6th capita l arrest warrant after she did not show up to court. and the white house is weighing in on reinstating a policy of detaining some migrant families. >> i texted him friday morning and i did not get anything. >> i would have told him don't go any further. >> the waiting is the worst part. it has the advantages and disadvantages, however, no news is good news. that is the way i am staying with it. no news is good news.

>> cnn correspondent josh campbell is joining us with more. josh, what do we know at this hour about these americans and where things stand. >> good morning to you, and right now, special agents from the fbi and other personnel are working with the mexican counterparts in order to locate the four mile an hours who were kidnapped friday as they travel from texas into mexico. a source familiar with the investigation tell me that the reason they were there is that one of the americans was attempting to get some type of medical procedure, and they know that because after they processed the crime scene they saw some receipts because there was a medical procedure planned. and now they tell me that this cartel mistook this group of americans for haitian drug smugglers and opening up a barrage of gun fire on them, and

now, we are told that this is related to the incident after it began, but what you will see is people loaded into the bed of the truck by gunpoint, including a woman shoved into the vehicle, and also a number of individuals around that truck who don't appear to be moving and lifted up and thrown into the vehicle. we cannot confirm that it is indeed the american, but again, a source says it is related to this incident, and it is a frightening situation, and a lot of americans and canadians go into mexico for lower-cost procedures and drugs, and right now the fbi is offering a $50,000 reward for the secure release of these captives as well as the identification of the kidnappers. >> josh, you worked global kidnapping investigations with the fbi and initial indications

here are they were confused with the haitian drug smugglers and would they negotiate for their release is. >> so often the cartels engage in kidnappings, and the situation is grim, because this is not intended to be a kidnapping situation, but a kill situation, but they were to hit a rival drug smuggling group, and not sure what happened here, but at the outset, are the captives prone to violence or reasonable and rational, and we know that we are way past that because they intended to kill these people in the vehicle, and so it is a grim situation in mexico. >> we know how important every moment is here as we wait for more word, and the families are waiting to more information, and when we are looking at this

particular state, this particular mexican state, the u.s. state department has put six mexican states on to do not travel list and highest level not to go there, and i was having this conversation with a producer, and maybe if you are not booking a flight, you don't realize, because that alert is not going to pop up, but if you are driving, what does that mean? >> this is so critical and it is not the u.s. government saying this because they don't have anything to back it up, but i will tell you having working with the state department intelligence analysts and the u.s. analysts, it is to prepare citizens, if you go into the dangerous place, there is what you need to know. they are not saying that all of mexico is a no-go zone, but you can look at the map and know that there are six specific states where the u.s. government says it is dangerous, and you have cartel areas of colima to

sinaloa that if you are traveling whether it is professional or personal, the warning is clear regardless of the reason to go into mexico, there is real intelligence that americans should know about the dangerous situations in parts of mexico. >> these warnings are not consider, it is do not travel there. it is the highest level. thank you, josh campbell. >> yes. we know that the americans were in mexico so that one of them could undergo a medical procedure, and it is a trip that is known as medical tourism which is popular. >> and maybe it is not a procedure, but lower cost drugs, and so walk us through the medical tourism, right, and most of the time it is coming down to cost. and health care in this country is not cheap or equal as we

know. >> that is right, erica, and many people are seeking medical tourism, because many people will travel internationally for medical care, and this is on the rise. one study says that in 2007, fewer than 800,000 people traveled internationally from the u.s. to seek medical care. by 2017, more than 1 million americans did. of course, this is coming with the risks as we are seeing with the current case that if you are traveling with a place that is high in crime, and there are other risks. and it comes with infection, and wherever you are going does not follow the same cleaning procedures as the u.s., and you have risks of infection, and not follow-up care and riss of communication challenges, and so there is a lot of concern when patients do this, but if they do seek medical care outside of the u.s., there are recommendations to number one, make sure that you get a doctor's appoint four

to six weeks before the travel and do the research. research the medical facility and the medical provider, and do the research before the medical care, because jim and erica, there are significant risks with this. >> yes, important to know that, and jacqueline and howard, appreciate that. >> we are also following what is happening with the florida woman and arrest warrant out for her as she took part of the january 6th attack on the capital. >> she did not show up to court yesterday, and the court officials have been unable to locate her since late february, and paula reid is joining us. she was wearing an ankle bracelet, but they have not located her. >> it is a wild story, jim, and they have been looking for her

and kept the search under wraps until she did not show up to court yesterday. she is wanted for what is a coordinated attack against law enforcement. and she is specifically accused of elbowing an officer in the chest and trying to strip an officer of a baton. and not just that warrant, but a warrant for her co-defendant joseph hutchinson which is being accused of pulling back a fence, and to help people to swarm the capitol and he is accused of grabbing an officer by the sleeve and throwing him out of the way. both of the defendants were wearing gps monitors and not detained before the court trial. they won't say whose monitor

they have, but both of the defendants are expected to go to trial later in the year if they can be found. >> if they can be found. we should point out that it is not only olivia pollock that they are searching for, but her brother jonathan pollock, and they cannot find him either? >> all in the family, and he is also charged with partase pating in the coordinated attack with law enforcement and he has been on the lam since 2021 and the fbi has offered an award for his capture and conviction. >> paula reid, thank you so much. we will get analysis from elliott this morning. so more than 1,000 defendants have been arrested and many hundreds convicted of the charges. and you have a case here of brother and sister on the run after charge, and is that isolated thing or is there a broader problem here? >> no, it is not a broader

problem, and most people show up for trial, jim, because there is huge hassle more than anything else, but penalties for not showing up to trial. number one, now you have federal marshalls on your tail, and yes, it has taken some time, but they will find these people, and this is how it is of the federal marshalls, and then they can be charged with another crime of not showing up for their trial, and so it is a human impulse to avoid going to prison. they are not pleasant places, but avoiding and running actually makes things much, much, much worse. >> the fact that her brother, eliot, was on the run here, and if you were the prosecutor here, would that have changed anything for monitoring, and would that have raised your concerns about ankle monitoring? >> yes, there are folks who are kicking themselves for agreeing

to that, and the ankle monitor or bracelet is considered a form of detention, and you are not considered quote, unquote released with a ankle bracelet, but they can be home and out and about in the public, and the standard for someone who is out and about is if they are a risk to the community or two, a flight risk, and it has played out, and they are clearly a flight risk, because they flew, and they a flight risk, so there is a head scratching there in the prosecutor's office and judge's chambers right now. >> and mike pence has asked to block a federal grand jury subpoena that he is protected by the federal constitution of an obey clause, and how might that complicate his effort to block the subpoena. >> yes and no, jim. and as vice president of the

united states, the vice president serves two roles. you can step in if the president cannot role, and also the president of the senate, and with that, it carries protections. if there were specific things or actions that mike pence took in the role as the president of the senate, preparing the certified ballots, and yes, protected, but anything in the book not protected, and two, any conversations that he had with the trump campaign ought not to be protected and talking about the job but don't touch his role in the senate are not going to be protected, and so the idea to strike the whole subpoena down merely by being the vice president is ludicrous, and so he is going to be losing and carved up a little bit. >> and may i also take a little bit of time to get to the final decision, and so we will start another clock here. elliott williams, thank you. >> thank you, erica.

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news. we do have breaking news now on the four americans kidnapped in mexico. officials in mexico say that i have -- that they have been found. josh campbell, tell us the details. >> u.s. official familiar with the ongoing investigation say that two of the americans have been found sadly deceased and two of them alive. the information from the source that was released from the mexican officials says that one of those found alive, that individual is severely injured and that person is receiving medical treatment, and we know that after receiving the dramatic video after the incident and the graphic video of the people loaded on to the back of a pickup truck at gunpoint, it looked as though two of them were not moving at the time, and there were sources that said about the question of

the status condition of those people were, and now we are hearing from the source that two of them were found deceased and two of them found alive, and again, one of them is severely wounded. where they were found, and this official who is familiar with it is saying that it is at a medical clinic at matamoros, and they have traveled from texas into be the border town into mexico and so they were found all four of them at some type of medical clinic. again, we are waiting to see what happens next. the fbi and the u.s. law enforcement has been engaged with the mexican authorities, and the way this would typically work from previous kidnappings, and depending upon who finds them first, whether it is the local authorities or the local fbi or the dependent who finds

them first to transport them back home if they are well enough, but one of the individuals is severely wounded and receiving medical treatment. and we wondered how this would end, and one told me it is grim for some of the victims, but we are sadly hearing that two are dead and one appearing to be fighting for their life. >> sad news. >> and we are now being joined by dianne gallagher, and you are at the town where three of them grew up together, and what you know about the friends, and how this trip unfolded. >> yeah, you know, erica and jim, this is not the news that anybody here in south carolina wanted to hear. the family and friends were holding out hope that it would end up differently, and this is a tight knit group of friends. three of the four grew up

together in small lake city south carolina, and we are told by their family that they traveled down to mexico together, because one of the friends was set to undergo a medical procedure, and she did not show up to the doctor appointment on friday according to her mother. then the fbi contacted her on sunday to let her know that her daughter had been kidnapped and that she was in danger, and the fbi simply said f she calls home, you need to call us. her aunt says that she saw a video on sunday where she recognized her niece there by her hair and clothing she was wearing, because, look, this group of friends had been facebook live on way and they were trading off driving making the journey from south carolina to mexico. according to one of the friends' mother, she had a medical procedure in mexico before and

it was not the first time and two or three years ago she went down there as well. the family of another one of those individuals said that they had grown up together with these friends, and they described the friend group as being like glue, and he came from a very close-knit family and he and his sister were inseparable, and always right there at her knee, and the family were keeping all they could with the faith they had that everything would turn out okay in the end. the woman who was receiving or supposed to receive the medical procedure down there in mexico was the mother of six. so everyone was concerned, and i cannot imagine being in their position right now, because it was a group of friends to go down there to support their friend and to be together, and to have this ending here for all of them is just so difficult i imagine for these families.

>> it is sad news no question if you are just joining us now. we have learned of the four missing americans, two have been found dead and two alive and according to our josh campbell, one of them alive is in critical condition. we are joined by andy mccabe, former director of the fbi, and andy, now i imagine that you have located the americans, the next step is finding group responsible. what ability would mexican authorities have in cooperation with the fbi and the u.s. authorities in tracking the people down. >> well, sure, jim. this is becoming what is likely going to turn into a protracted, essentially major organized crime case. the mexican authorities together with the american counterparts will continue to work all of the available sources. and you looking for informant information as word of this crime, these murders spreads within the criminal community,

more and more people will become aware of who is involved and you will pick up on all of the threads and vet them in the way of those folks that you are looking for and of course of the counterparts of law enforcement and the mill tay, and the military is going to be playing a significant role in mexico the find those folks responsible. >> and to give us a sense that in the last hour, and correct me if i am wrong, but i think that i remember that in the mexico city, the field office, it is the largest one outside of the united states, because there is a massive presence in mexico. just how effective has that relationship been over the years between the fbi and local authorities be they, you know, the mexican authorities or even at the state level when you are dealing with a situation like this? >> well, of course, the fbi is going to enjoy the strongest relationships with the national authorities who are located or

at least head quartered in mexico city, but be clear, they do a lot of work across the criminal and intelligence spheres in mexico, so they have had the bureau to develop deep and productive contacts within the agencies. it is not to say it is always perfect. mexico is a place that we all know experiences a high degree of government corruption at all places and levels, and that can throw a wrench in the works in that relationship of the u.s. counterparts and their mexican colleagues, but you have to know that at this moment, crimes against americans are with the embassy americans at work. >> and josh campbell, who had been with us reminded us of to do not travel warnings, and that

is covering a large part of the country there, and for the folks watching now, how do they factor in the information there with the events of the four american, and two now sadly killed, and it is striking me that you have to think of the travel decisions there very safely. >> yes, it sin deed, very important to look at what the no-go zone is of the u.s. intelligence holdings. it is not just yourself, a people think, well, i can handle myself and i hit a checkpoint or some shakepoint i will pay my way out of it, but if you are looking at the map, these so-called do not travel areas carry the caveat that the americans can be caught up in the rival gangs trying to target each other, and why that is important, that is what appeared to be happening here, because the official familiar with the investigation is that the thought now is that the gulf

cartel specifically thought they were targeting a group of haitian drug smugglers on their turf but in reality it is a group of americans who were down there for an medical procedure. and it is important that what happened next, the official is with the goal to ensure the safety of the americans who were recovered who were still alive and one of them is severely wounded, but then the next step after you make that recovery, you have the victims in your care is to then look and as andy said, this investigation that has to be launched and it is not just like kidnappings around the world where it is targeted and high degree of plotting and planning to kidnap an american citizen or others for that matter, and they don't just go looking for americans, or foreign partners but it is not just those plotted out, but there are instances of plotting

opportunities, but you have a group of the kfr, kidnap for ransom, gangs, who say, if i kidnap these people, i can get big amount of money, and there is a business model around these sinister operations. that is what the fbi is going to be looking into and regardless of whether this is targeted, they will be looking into that with their mexican counterparts, guys. >> and how this was determined will all be unfolding. diane gane gallagher, i know th there is a briefing later in the afternoon, and any indication of who is going to be at the briefing and what we are expected to learn? >> so, i am still looking through this at this point of how we are expecting this to come, but we are anticipated to hear from the governor there in mexico to perhaps get additional details, and again, he is the one who broke that information

and even though it is with a president press, in a press conference with the president that two of the americans had been found, and that two of them were dead, and we anticipate within the next hour or so learning additional information from the authorities down there, and it is important to emphasize as we have here that at this point, the investigate dors do believe that it is a case of very unfortunate mistaken identity, that these were a group of four friends down there for a medical procedure, and the belief is that investigators maybe mistook them for haitian smugglers or something like that, and that is not the case in this situation, and the families all here in south carolina have said it is a friends trip, medical procedure, and they were down there not anticipating this to go anything like this, but they were there to support their friend who was having a procedure at this point. it is not believed or nothing

involved with anything, and it was just a very, very unfortunate and tragic case of mistaken identity according to authorities so far. >> and andy mccakccabe, former director, and you consider it to be a failed state, and the years and years of cooperation of the two countrys the, and do you expect them to get this under control? >> it is difficult to say, jim from our perspective, where you have mexico with a drug community of warring drug cartels, a community like this can be completely indiscriminate. you can remember years ago a conflict of the warring cartel factions at a casino and they simply locked the doors and set

the casino on fire, and killed a host of civilians along with the folk they were looking for. those things happen in mexico, and that why the it is a department warns for travel to certain parts of the country, but on any given case, there the opportunity for success an productive collaboration between u.s. and mexican colleagues, but to look back at the entirety of all of the business and the interactions that we have on law enforcement and intelligence matters and grade them as better or worse can be challenging at any moment, because there are so many things going on and so many opportunities for success or failure. >> and to that end, how could a case like this impact those relationships? >> well, it absolutely will. you have been hearing it recently discussed on the hill and in other places really talking about cracking down on mexico, because of their failure to stem the tide of illicit

narcotics into the united states, and now we are concerned about fentanyl which is really driving the deaths from opioids and other materials, but that's, this is the potential downside of making those bold gestures of sanctioning mexico to make them on the list of economic tension, you run the risk of then having americans in trouble or kidnapped or detained in mexico to losing those contacts to work with them in moments like that to get the citizens back, and all of those broad diplomatic brushes can impact how business is done on the ground, and it is a delicate move that the state department and the department of justice is constantly trying to regulate that relationship. >> and andy mccabe, thank you so much, and updating if you have

just joined us, sadly, two americans found dead, and two others alive but one is critically wounded. we will update you as we hear more information. >> and also, adding to the information, we are waiting for the 2:00 briefing, and we will keep an eye on that. right now, the chairman of the federal reserve with the rate hike looms, and what we are learning about the latest on inflation coming up. r deliverig with freight brokerage to transportation management, truckload capacityty and dedicated trucks and drivers.

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happening now the federal reserve chair, jerome powell, you can see him there testifying before the house federal affairs committee, trying to explain where it is all going here. >> this is the a very important week of the economic data indicators here, and what have we heard from powell so far, matt egan? >> well, he is not satisfied with the path of inflation. and now, remember, that powell and the fed have been slamming the brakes on this economy and trying to get the prices under control, but kind of like a stubborn toddler, this economy does not want to seem to want to slowdown. the americans are shop, and the businesses are hiring

aggressively and inflation is remaining very high. so that suggests that perhaps the fed has more work to do here, and perhaps they have to hit the brakes harder. listen to what powell just said on this topic. >> the latest economic data have come in stronger than expected, which suggests that the ultimate level of interest rates is likely to be higher than previously anticipated. if the totality of the data were to indicate that faster tightening were warranted we would increase the latest pace of rate hikes. >> and powell called out that some of the inflation numbers are coming in stronger than fed officials expected a month ago, and that is leading the fed investors the predict that the fed is going to have to rate the rates not just in may, but june and maybe through the summer and fall, and that is a big deal, because it is meaning higher borrowing costs for mortgages, car loans and all of the loans

have gotten more expensive, but the more the fed has to do here, the greater they do too much, and slow the economy right into recession. jim and erica, a lot of pressure on powell on both sides and some who think he is doing too much, and some who say he is not doing enough. >> thank you, matt egan, staying on this throughout the day. and now, president biden is releasing an op-ed in "the new york times" to detail plans to protect medicare as he is prepared to release a full budget thursday. the administration is not going to shy away from using federal power to reshape the economy. >> the president has been putting the pressure on the car companies to slash prices, and medical industries to slash fees, and he is getting results. david lynch wrote about this policy and strategy in his latest piece. he is joining us live. david, good to have you on.

when you are looking at the approach of the two pillars of the approach and boosting chips and manufacturing and also repairing the infrastructure, this received bipartisan votes, but is this a shift of the industrial policy that is likely to survive a change if it happens in party power, and is it a long-lasting shift? >> well, it certainly seems to be and it is representing a dramatic shift from the path that both parties have pursued for the last several decades at least from the reagan era of relying on the market to make all of the decisions, the major decisions for the u.s. economy. what the president is trying to do now is to shape specific characteristics of the economy and promote specific industries in a way that we have not seen in decades, and if the plans work, we will be producing more of the semiconductors that we need here at home.

we'll develop renewable energy resources and better positioned with the competition with china. if they don't work, we will end up wasting taxpayer money and perhaps micromanaging businesses in unnecessary ways. >> how much of this shift i guess in terms the of the approach by president biden and his administration in your view is him doing everything that he can to achieve the agenda versus a reaction to the economy which to this point, nobody can define or predict. it is not following a well known playbook. >> it is a very uncertain time. i think that the president is trying to accomplish multiple objectives. the administration sees is areas of what is known as market failure where the market is not specifically meeting the needs in the long term of the economy, and so for instance just relying

on costs and market factors, we have ended up in a situation where 90% of the key computer chips are manufactured in one location, taiwan, which is obviously geopolitically vulnerable. and so the government wants to promote a more diverse array of supplies, so that we are less vulnerable to the sort of disruptions that we saw in the pandemic. the president is also taking advantage of some of the legislation to achieve unrelated goals like promoting broader availability of child care. >> so, let's talk about biden's op-ed today, and the medicare plan here is to raise taxes on those making above $400,000 a year, and also, reduce the price paid for certain medications, and does the math add up in terms of addressing what are really long term problems with

the medicare particularly as the population ages? >> well, they are long term problems, and there is going to be accounting disputes from both sides of the spectrum on this, and the element that we looked at from our pace is the president's use of what is known as the bully pulpit. the rhetorical power of the presidency to promote objectives to lean on the companies to make changes in the prices of specific goods so that the consumers can see specific goods today and don't wait for the long run to come around, and you have seen with it. eli lilly's decision to cut the cost of insulin, internet access, and airline junk fees, and this is another front that the president is pushing out to. >> david lynch, thank you for taking the time to join us this morning. still ahead here, we are live in mississippi where the lawmakers are considering a bill of what critics are calling the

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state court-appointed measure for the city of jackson. >> it would control much of the system that is predominantly black. oma omar jimenez is following this. what is behind this move in if first place? >> well, all of this is in an attempt to be introduced to get the public safety situation under control. you have seen a spike of violence in cities like jackson like many ther cities in the past few years, and now this is representation, and as you have alluded coming to me, this is a black city, and the legislature is majority white, and what is being proposed is going to be taking the governing power away from the city and give it to the state, and therein lies the debate. >> reporter: whether it is the poverty or the violence, you don't think that the process is playing out right now is going

to solve that? >> no. they have the ability to invest in programs and interventions that could reduce crime and reduce poverty in the city, and that has to be a part of the situation. >> reporter: a plan to reshape jackson's criminal system has been introduced into the house of representatives, and the solution is to change a portion of the city that is white to be under the capital police, and the bill expands it city wide, but both plans would put the selection of judges and prosecutors in the hands of the majority white legislature rather than the hands of the residents which is over 80% black taking governing power away from the leaders and the critics say disenfranchising the voters. >> even with the changes, it is still a trojan horse cloaked in the notion of publy safety where

it is not in evidence-based. >> reporter: the legal leaders in jackson believe it is better ways to address the current elected judiciary would be the case. >> they both miss the mark severely. the issue that for the last two decades, the county has needed two or more permanently elected judges. >> jackson has seen a spike of violence and in 2021, the highest murder rates in the country. and the sponsor of the bill have argued it would provide valuable safety to the ecosystem. >> this bill is designed to assist the court system of heinz county not to hinder it. >> reporter: this version of the senate bill would make the law

enforcement city-wide on how to police together, and in theory, any jurisdiction of the enforcement of police shall be resolved in favor of the commissioner of the department of public safety and the mayor said that he would not sign it, but some are concerned that the state officers would not be held to the same accountability of local ones, and that has the fear of some after jay lewis was shot and killed by a capital police officer after a traffic stop. >> i am here, because there are bills that will expand capital police authority, and possibly to the entire city of jackson and that terrifies me. >> reporter: and that shooting is still under investigation, but the attitude of the critics of this bill is embodied by some of the shirts that we have seen here says "jackson versus

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