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not necessarily reflect the reality of another, or of the whole. -- soldiers enjoying a pause in battle does not mean there is no war. az prudhoe film for four jfk shot does not make it a parade. pretending otherwise is conning. people pretending otherwise is counting something -- else and enabling that come when you are a high-ranking elected official directly in line of succession to the presidency is hard to imagine. or so you might think. because that's just what house speaker kevin mccarthy has done. he's enabled this. >> the crowd was enormous. a small percentage of them were hooligans. they committed vandalism. you've seen their pictures again and again. the overwhelming majority weren't. they were peaceful. they were orderly and meek. these were not insurrectionists, they were sightseers. >> fox's tucker carlson last night cherry-picking from some 40,000 hours of footage that speaker mccarthy released to him and only him. of the january 6th attack on the capitol. the fox host attempted to con his viewers into thinking it was something it was not.
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not mentioning that 140 members of law enforcement were assaulted that day. according to the justice department. some were pepper sprayed, taser, maimed, blinded or died in the immediate wake of it. as brian sicknick, which carlson says without evidence was unrelated even though the medical examiner concluded it was. nor did carlson focus on the fact that the mob nearly broke into the house chamber, where members and staffers were barricaded. or that rioters shouting hang mike pence came within inches of just a few doesn't see feet in a couple seconds of actually finding him. or that that minority leader mccarthy was so rattled by rioters breaking into his offices he called the former president demanding he call off the mob, only to be told in so many words, to pound sand. this reality is what tucker carlson downplayed last night, by suggesting that the existence of less violent -looking video meant the violence was no big deal. in short, conning people. here's what some republican senators who were there say about carlson's portrayal of what they actually experienced firsthand. >> i think it's bs.
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i was here. i was down there. and i saw maybe a few tourists and people got got caught up on it things when, you see police barricades breached, when you see police officers assaulted? all of that, i thought was an insurrection at that time. i still think it is an insurrection today. >> i don't know how you would wants to describe it, it was an attack on the capitol. >> as for whether speaker mccarthy made a mistake in giving carlson the video, republicans by a large avoided saying so directly today. utah senator mitt romney, who called carlson's portrayal january 6th, dangerous and disgusting, did say speaker mccarthy made a mistake. carlson, by the way, said this about vetting the video. >> we do take security seriously. so, before airing any of this video, we checked first with a the capitol police. >> multiple sources on the hill say otherwise. that carlson show provided only a single clip to review, not all of them. and in a letter to the department, the chief of capitol police writes, quote, the opinion program never reached out to the department to provide accurate context. contrast that in our reporting
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with speaker mccarthy's assurance, just a week ago. >> work with the capitol police as well, make sure that security is taken care of. >> we are consulting with the capitol police. >> if that happened, the capitol police chief isn't saying. so he's apparently livid at the handling of this, as for speaker kevin mccarthy, he spoke tonight to reporters, including cnn's manu raju, he said he has no regrets about his decision to give carlson the footage. arguing, he did it in the name of transparency. which is similar to his justification last week. when he said, i think sunshine lets everybody make their own judgment. that's what he said then. this was really never about sunshine. it was about appealing to the former president and his most extreme supporters in congress. the ones who helped him become speaker. that meant sowing doubts about the bravery of capitol police in d. c. police that day, and downplaying an attempt to overthrow democratic and fair elections, so be it. kevin mccarthy was scared on january 6th, and with good reason.
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the sad thing is, how scared he still appeared to be today. not just of the former president, his supporters who roamed the capital that day, some of the members of his own party. the ones who served with and are so beholden to today. joining us now, cnn law enforcement analyst, michael fanone, who was tasers several times in the neck, beaten and suffered a heart attack as a result of his effort to defend the capital, and member of the d. c. metro police department. i appreciate you being with us. last night, carlson called people who breached the capitol, quote, sightseers. instead of insurrectionists. you were there. what do you make of what carlson has done? >> yeah, i heard the language the tucker carlson used to describe the individuals that were there. it's certainly not what i would've used to describe albuquerque head, the individual who pled guilty to placing me in a chokehold, ripping me off of police line and pulling me out into a crowd. of violent insurrectionists well he yelled, i've got one. >> his name was albuquerque
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head? >> albuquerque head. it's not the language i would use to describe kyle young, violently assaulted me, lunged for my firearm, who's also pled guilty to the assault. it's not the language i used to describe thomas sibick, who recently pled guilty to stripping my badge in my radio from my chest. and then burying my badge in his backyard. back in buffalo, new york. it's certainly not the language i would use to describe daniel rodriguez, who admittedly struck me in the neck numerous times with a taser device all while i was out in the crowd, defenseless and being assaulted from every direction. so what tucker carlson forgot to talk about, like you said earlier, is the 140 officers like myself that were severely injured as a result of this violent insurrection and attack on our the capital. >> the idea of tucker carlson
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being in that mob that day, and not wetting his pants is hard to imagine. i find it hard to understand somebody who's never put himself in harm's way in any capacity for anyone else, or on reporting a story, and yet, has the audacity to try to rewrite history. that's what this is. it's an attempt to rewrite history on what is one of the most consequential certainly one of the biggest events in american democracy. and the biggest threats to american democracy. >> i agree. tucker carlson is, by his own admission, an entertainer. not a journalist. on top of that, he's just proven himself to be donald trump's chief propagandist. that's all this was, i think that most americans recognize that, way before this segment aired. this was propaganda. and it was an attempt by tucker
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carlson to downplay and whitewash the events of january 6th. >> on speaker mccarthy, you in your book, you write about a meeting that you had with him as well as the family of officer sicknick. talk a little bit about what you saw in that meeting, in based on what you saw on that meeting, i assume you're not surprised that the speaker gave carlson exclusive access to this material? >> absolutely. the one takeaway i had from my meeting with kevin mccarthy, he said, clearly, he could not control the fringe members of his party. which was strange, he's now seemingly aligned himself with the fringe members of his party. he knew, ahead of time, exactly what tucker carlson was going to do with this footage. yet, he gave him the exclusive access to the footage, 40,000 hours of which there is no chain of command, to discern what type of security protocols may have been revealed to whom.
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at what time. which, in and of itself, was outrageous. that being said, this was all an attempt to appeal to, or appease, donald trump. who kevin mccarthy has become a useful idiot for. >> michael fanone, appreciate you being with us tonight. thank you. >> i want to turn now to breaking news in another batch of documents in dominion lawsuit against fox news, more communications from inside the company. cnn senior media reported, oliver darcy joins us now. what's new in this filing? >> there are a lot of messages in this filing. this filing basically contains all the exhibits that dominion has been using to make their case against fox news in the previous filings that we've seen. so, we're basically just getting raw text messages. raw emails. deposition transcripts. that again, continue to show, behind the scenes, fox news knew exactly what they were doing. they knew these election lies they were pushing were
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nonsense. they allow these election lies to gain a foothold on their air. i want to read you an email ever murdaugh sent fox news ceo suzanne scott. he can he's talking about election lies, he says, maybe sean hannity and laura ingraham went too far. he goes on to say, oh very well for sean hannity to tell you he was in despair about trump, what detail his viewers? in another exchange in his deposition, rupert murdoch was asked repeatedly, about election lies that were about dominion. he rejected them over and over and over again. already part of it, he said, do you believe that dominion was engaged in a massive and coordinated effort to steal the 2020 presidential election. >> no, murdaugh replied. have you seen any pre-credible evidence that dominion was engaged in a massive and coordinated effort to steal the 2020 election? no, murdaugh replied. have you believe that dominion was engaged in a --
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massive effort to steal the -- you've never believed that dominion was involved in an effort to delegitimized and destroy the 2020 election for donald trump? >> i'm open to persuasion, but no, i've never seen it. >> the dominion is taking a summary judgment. what would that mean and what's fox's response? >> the dominion wants the judge to rule on this. fox's response has been, obviously, against this motion. we're going to see what happens later this month when the judge does rule in this. i think most legal experts would say, this is likely headed toward a trial. we'll see what happens, fox is responding tonight, they're basically saying this proves that all of this is proof that dominion has been engaged in smearing them, they say that this brought transcripts do say they prove their claim that they have been cherry-picking information out of them, and making it in their final. i want to bring in veteran first amendment lawyer, -- lee levin who in his long career has are printed fox and cnn many media outlets in america. so, lee, in a previous appearance, you said that --
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was helpful without a smoking gun. what would a smoking gun look like one standard is actual malice? >> well, when i said that last time, anderson, i was talking about the testimony that murdaugh gave when he was talking about that various hosts on fox had endorsed election fraud. i said that was not a smoking gun, because it did not relate directly to dominion. it just talked generally about election fraud. but what allergist red eye think is a little bit closer to a smoking gun. here we've got murdaugh saying, he, who had at least theoretical authority to stop powell and giuliani from appearing on foxes shows, in fact, never believed and has never seen, any evidence of election fraud by dominion. that's pretty close to a smoking gun. >> i just want to put what rupert but murdoch and read
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that out for you again. as you said, this is important. a dominion lawyer said, do you believe dominion was engaged in a massive and coordinated effort to steal the 2020 presidential election? rupert murdoch said no. next question was, have you ever seen any credible evidence to suggests that dominion was engaged in a massive coordinated effort to steal the president and election? no. the third question was, have you ever believed that dominion was engaged in a massive in court effort to steal the 2020 presidential election? again, no. fourth question you have never believed that dominion was involved in an effort to delegitimized and destroy votes for donald trump, correct? i'm open to persuasion, but no, i've ever seen. leigh, why does that matter? >> because the standard that dominion is taken upon itself to meet. is that those persons at fox, responsible for broadcasting the information about dominion that has, in many instances, been acknowledged now by fox to be false, at the time, either knew it was false or believed
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it was probably false. at the top of the food chain, of course, is robert murdoch. and dominion has made an effort to show, that rupert murdoch was hands on. that is, he was aware of what people were saying on his air. he had the ability to stop these guests from appearing and, repeating these things that he apparently testified he's never believed to be true. and if dominion can convince a jury that rupert murdoch was in fact responsible for those broadcasts, that testimony would satisfy the standard of actual malice, knowledge or falsity or reckless disregard of the fifth of the truth. >> all over, is there any doubt that rupert murdoch had the power at fox news to call into the control room and say, get giuliani off? >> there is no doubt. he's even testified that he did have that power, he just did an exercise. at the end of the day, over at fox news, make no mistake,
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whoever ceo doesn't matter. rupert murdoch is the one that calls the shots. >> also, the on air personalities at fox seem -- tucker carlson was talking about to other anchors about the stock price of i guess at fox -- i don't know the stock price of the parent company of cnn's? it's fascinating to me that that was in their mind, that was like a talking point amongst them. oh, we can't do this, the stock price is being hurt. >> and this was because -- u.s. or turning on fox news -- >> because he told the truth about the results in arizona. >> exactly, and the viewers clearly did not want to hear the, truth they want to believe this fantasy that have been to them by donald, trump and people on fox news at times. so they were turning off the channel, they wanted to go to newsmax, trump was attacking the network, it was the height of the week of the 2020 election, and you, know you see in these emails, where they talk about the stock price,
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viewers repelling, this is a serious situation, everything fox has been built on can be destroyed very quickly. trump has a destroyer tucker carlson said, but he will not destroy us. these emails showed a lot of light on what is happening. >> leigh, based on what you are, seeing is there any part of dominion's suit where they have overreached? >> no. i think they, if anything, in the complaint, which makes sense because they didn't have access to all of these materials then, they undersold what they will ultimately be able to prove now that they have had discovery and have had access to all these text messages and emails, and the ability to take that position. >> that is kind of amazing, isn't, it don't a lot of attorneys usually oversaw something initially? >> well, they work off of what they know, and what they have, but yes, sometimes. these are, i've said this before, there are very good lawyers on both sides of this case, and neither side is going
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tonight, they are no longer missing, to our, safe but you have been killed. we are now with cnn's rosa flores. two of four american missing -- are back in the united states and receiving medical treatment in texas after being kidnapped in mexico. after what u.s. official tells cnn was a case of mistaken identity. two members of the party were found dead and one of the survivors is severely injured with a bullet wound to his leg. according to u.s. and mexican officials. in the party for, latavia washington valley and eric williams survived. zindell brown and shied ordered were killed. >> we are providing all appropriate assistance to them and their families. we extend our deepest condolences to the family and loved ones of the deceased. >> they cross the border from brownsville, texas into mexico on friday. for her to obtain a medical
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procedure according to a friend of mcgee. they drove a white mini van with north carolina plates across the border. they got lost will trying to locate the medical clinic where they were headed. the friend told cnn. before they were able to look at the clinic, disturbing video shows the aftermath of the kidnapping as heavily armed men loaded them into a white truck and transported them to various locations to avoid capture according to mexican officials. [speaking non-english] the mexican president says those responsible will be found and punished, a u.s. official familiar with the investigation told cnn that they believe a mexican cartel kidnapped the group after mistaking them for haitian drug smugglers. the state department has issued its highest level forewarning,
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do not travel to the state. the group was abducted due to heavy crime and kidnapping in the region. >> there are many people who crossed over that border for these medical appointments. >> attacks on u.s. citizens or are acceptable or, no matter what circumstances they occur. >> mcgeachin williams are now under the care of the fbi and u.s. officials are making arrangements to bring home the bodies of brown and woodard. >> we want to see accountability for the violence that has been inflicted on these americans. >> she joins us now just across the border from all this happened. has anyone been arrested in connection? >> you know anderson, according to mexico officials, one individual has been arrested. a 24-year-old from mexico. now according to mexican officials, this man was somehow associated with surveillance on the americans. here's the thing, mexican
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officials are not disclosing this individual is connected to criminal organizations or the cartels, or even if this individual had anything to do with the assault, the kidnapping, and also the killing of the americans. what officials are saying is that they received a tip early this morning. they follow that tip, they found the americans in the house outside of the city. but they didn't find, anderson, according to them, the people who were responsible for the kidnapping and killings. >> rosa flores, appreciate it, thank you. coming up, the congressional hearing against -- it will probably lab leak theory of the covid pandemic. new support from the department of energy and the fbi. doctor anthony fauci joins us next for an exclusive interview to discuss whether he will ever get complete answers to this question. y. i'm calling my doctor. if it's covid, paxlovid. authorized for emergency use, paxlovid is an oral treatment for people 12 and up... who have mild-to-moderate covid-19 and have a high-risk factor for it becoming severe. my symptoms are mild now, but i'm not waiting. if it's covid, paxlovid. having even one risk factor, like being over 50, diabetes, or smoking
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world health organization declared covid a pandemic, house republicans will hold first hearing into the origins tomorrow. more than a week after the department of energy reopened that debate in the new updated classified report. sources tell cnn tagency now bee pandemic escape from a lab in wuhan china. fbi director chris said that the fbi also believe that the pandemic was likely the results of a lab incident wuhan. other agencies are not so sure. our next guest was the scientific voice of the previous administration. joined now by doctor anthony fauci, formerly the top disease expert. good to see. you are the s -- are they write about the lab leak? >> well, it is very tough to say anderson. they are talking about information that they have that we don't have privy to. we don't really know. they have made opinions on low confidence from the department of energy and moderate
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confidence from the fbi. i don't think there is really a correct and verifiable answers your question. it is just still remaining unknown at this particular point. there are two theories as we're all familiar now, one is a lab leak. the other that it was a natural occurrence from an animal spillover. the one thing is that we have to keep an open mind about this and tell there is definitive evidence. >> how important is it to figure out? >> well, it is anderson, because we want to make sure that whichever of those alternatives it is, that we do whatever we can to prevent it from happening in the future. we have had outbreaks before. we had covid one which was clearly shown to go from a bat to a cat to a human. if there is a possibility, which there is certainly, we haven't ruled it out, of there being a lab leak, there are things that you can do to prevent the recurrence of those things. for example, the data showing that it might be a natural
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occurrence would make you want to be very careful about the animal human interface and make sure that we have strict regulation of bringing animals into wet markets. if it turns out to be a lab leak, you want to be very much more stringent in the controls of the experiments that you allowed to be done. it is relevant to understand whether or not we have -- i'm not sure. but it certainly is important to know. >> this has become very partisan as you mentioned. house republicans have a hearing tomorrow. obviously, someone that they've been focused on. would you testify that they asked you? >> of course. without a doubt, if they asked me i will testify. >> you've had experience with antagonism from certain lawmakers over the past couple of years, physically with rand paul. i want to play something for our viewers to give you a sense of what the back and forth has been. >> for years, dr. ralph, a
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virologist, has been collaborating with doctor she is angrily of the wuhan virology institute. sharing his discoveries about how to create super viruses. this gain of function research has been funded by the nih. dr. fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan? >> senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect. that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. >> do you wish to retract your statement on may 11th where you claimed that the nih never funded gain of function research in wuhan? >> senator paul, i have never lied before the congress. i do not retract that statement. >> if anybody is lying here senator, it is you. >> senator paul, yesterday they accuse you of ordering a cover-up.
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the only reason to think that the new congress is going to be any less contentious? do you think they're interested in seeking the truth? >> well, i don't know anderson. i don't really want to comment on that. the most important thing we've got to do is stick with data, stick with science, be transparent, and be honest which i have been very much so literally for the entire 50 years that i've been at the nih, and the 38 years that i directed the institute. that was an in fortunate interchange with senator paul. but that was senator paul being senator paul. >> i'll be ready for the next pandemic? a lot of folks, bill gates has warned about the next one coming.
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he had a plan. he said you can invest tens of billions of dollars i think in order to prevent this pandemic. are we ready for something else? >> you know, the answer was, we are partially ready. there was some things that have gone right with the pandemic preparedness and response for covid-19. i some things that need to be substantially improved upon, anderson. the thing that went right was the investment over decades in the basic and clinical biomedical research that allowed us to make a vaccine in unprecedented times of less than a year that turned out to be safe and highly effective. according to the commonwealth fund, has saved over 3 million
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lives and prevented 18 million hospitalizations and saved us about a trillion dollars. where we need to do better is in the public health preparedness. we need to have greater coordination, greater transparency, greater availability data and to be able to analyze and get data in realtime. you are asking me, are we prepared. the answer is, in some respects, we are but we certainly can do better. and hopefully, the lessons that we learned from this terribly tragic experience that we have been through would put us in better stead for the next inevitable outbreak anderson. it may not occur in the next year or ten years or 15 years, but there will be another pandemic as history has taught us. >> doctor anthony fauci, appreciate it, thank you. >> good to be with you anderson, thank you for having me. >> coming up, a new town hall i'm hosting on the fentanyl crisis that starts and that clock just less than 30 minutes from now. we are going to take you to philadelphia to examine why this deadly drug is now being mixed with a veterinary sedative. it is graphic and disturbing report, but important to understand. the full scope of the fentanyl crisis. that works inside my body with the click of this remote. no mask, no hose, just sleep. learn more and view important safety information at inspiresleep.com. (man) what if my type 2 diabetes takes over? (woman) what if all i do isn't enough? or what if i can do diabetes differently?
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of plus. it is been open for 21 months. that's a horrible trend south is. >> it is killing them. slow but sure, it is killing us. some earlier than others. it is eventually going to kill you. if you keep going, we see it every day. every day, next day. >> in kensington, the main avenue runs under the train. on many of the corners, you can buy drugs. on the side streets and in the park, people without homes live and sleep and use drugs. >> did you want to get on the list? >> a percocet prescription led to sarah getting addicted to heroin and living on the street. when she got sober, she created a harm addiction organization that helps showers and nurses to treat peoples wounds. >> shower, wound care, both, or just shower? >> everybody knows about kensington. it is a tourist location for drugs. >> a couple of people mention that people will come down here for the weekend. >> you just get stuck.
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why go home? >> this is mcpherson square park, we call it needle park. >> why? >> everybody shoots up here, there's a lot of syringes left around. >> one day 2019, a friend drove to kensington to buy fentanyl. he never came back to the car. he spent two years homeless. 18 months of them at this park. >> when i got to kensington, this was a disneyland for drug addicts. >> why? >> open air. >> people still have their own community with its own economy. >> i too hustles. i don't know if one unnecessarily appropriate to talk about on camera. it is hitting people, people that injecting, if they're not good, they need a hitter. the second one is we call a runner. someone who comes down from the county and they want to know where the good stuff this. some people will say, i want a bag of coke, i don't want that salts. someone would say hey, i want shrank, but i want a little bit of fentanyl. i would just know that from being down here. i said hey, i'll take you.
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you're going to look out for me. >> wow. kind of like a tourist guide. >> andrea a guitarist guide. a middleman of coughing drugs for sure. >> now, what is the differentiator if shrank is in everything? >> probably just which ones are heavier with the trunk and which ones are least like trunk. >> the nurses at savage sisters use their experience with addiction to care for people who come in. have people come in here where you are like, dude, you gotta go to the hospital? >> all the time. it's really hard, is scary. you're going to the hospital. are you going to manage the withdrawal, are you going to manage -- are going to treat someone who uses drugs and throw me out? >> this is made it really difficult for patients to get into recovery. they are so fearful of the withdrawal, there are fearful that the doctors and nurses don't know what xylazine is. >> xylazine withdrawal last
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longer the opioid withdrawal. it can cause intense anxiety. doctors don't know the best way to treat it. they are trying to give drugs to see what works. he learns the tracking down will just push dealers to introduce other more dangerous drugs. he says that what will help is making it easier for users to get health care. >> how do you do that, how do you make access to care better? >> better medications. better ability to manage withdrawal, creating more housing access, housing is a major issue in our community. i think that is something that we are not good on. the prevention of this disorder. >> oh that the? more mental health care? >> yes, absolutely. >> the same reason that that mom on the main line which is for a martini glass at noon is the same reason that i reached for a needle in my neck. i was in pain. that is it. i was hurting. the people that are out here nothing but the pain with substances, whether it is hair
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when, alcohol, cocaine. we need to address the pain. we need to stop isolating the substance and look beyond it. >> i'm gonna give you not can. >> i'm a five foot one purple haired recovering heroin addict. i don't have credentials, i don't have a degree. i had to come up with ways to convince people that we are worth saving. >> she joins us now. what did you learn about the backgrounds of the people that you spoke to? >> most of them are from kensington, they come from all over. people from the suburbs, people who had wealthy families. there are several people who had children and teenagers. one mom i spoke to had been diagnosed with cancer at 40. she got addicted to pain pills and now she is living in a shelter. >> it is so stunning to see a. plus all right, thank you, appreciate it. again, addicted to fentanyl
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>> right place, right time, that is the wide receiver was saying about helping a rescue a man from a burning car with his uber -- that was on sunday night in austin texas. according to sports, the car crashed and burst into flames. thanks to the quick action of osborne and the others, the driver is expected to be okay. joining us with more is chaos. born thank you so much for being with us. this is really amazing. can you walk us through what happened when your uber driver spotted the burning car? >> right, oh man, it was crazy. i appreciate you for having me on. you know, it was a crazy situation. my uber driver, i had my head down. i'm in the back of the uber and initially he starts making a
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lot of noise. i'm asking, what is going on? i look on the street, there's nobody there. i look off to my right and there is a car under a bridge that crashed. it is in flames. my uber driver, whose name is abdul, we stopped and said we got a call 9-1-1. initially, we both ran to the car and there was another group that stopped. her name is rita. they both stopped and we all saw this car up in flames. you know, the driver, we saw that he was alive. my uber driver that went out, abdul went down, opened up the passenger door, he was seeing this guy who is in the vehicle. we saw that he is still alive. the driver was able to muster enough strength to kind of remove his body way over to the passenger seat and that is when we all went down. we helped pull him off the car, but we are still close to the car, this car, we had no idea if it was going to blow up. obviously, that would've been the worst. i picked the guy up and we
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walked ten or 15 yards away from the car. by then, the firefighters came and police in everything. we were able to rescue him. like you said, right place, right time. god's real. i'm happy he was able to do it. >> have you ever seen anything like this before, done anything like this before? >> of course, i've never seen anything like this before in person. i joked about it in another interview, i'm currently getting my masters in criminal justice at the diversity of my enemy so i look to finish. i want to be in the fbi or secret service. i walk up to this burning car, i'm like, this is live bullets
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and of course i've never seen anything like that but to be able to act on it with the other three heroes that i was with was definitely a good deed. that's something that of course i would never imagine myself being a part of in 1 million years. >> it is awesome that for people randomly happened to all be in the same place at the same time and have the same drive to get involved and try to help and do something. it is kind of an extraordinary story. do you know how the guy, how the person is doing or how serious the persons injuries are? >> we do not yet. we have been waiting for a police report, the police got all of our contact info and i've been in contact with arthur and abdul, waiting to hear that what is going on. initially when i pull him out of the car his mouth was bleeding. when i picked him up, he had a lot of blood on my shirt. i heard initially that he had an ankle that was broken or whatever. all slim seem to be intact. he was squeaking and things
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like that. we are still waiting for police report. -- we are trying to reach out to police to try to get in contact with the guy. we can get a chance to shake hands or do something. >> i love that you're going to have this bond with these three other people for the rest of your life. it is this incredible thing. i love this photo that you tweeted out. >> yeah, i think it is something important. it happened obviously so fast and that night, i asked them to take a photo because arthur and rita. arthur had come from cameroon. he has been here for the last couple of days. he came from cameroon three years ago. he is a big soccer fan. he doesn't know much about the nfl. abdul, i don't think he watches much football either. they had no clue that i was an nfl player, or anything like that. that was not important. we were trying to save a man's life. football was not even in the question. i told them, i'm like, this is going to be a story. people are going to talk about this. of course, they're gonna say cagey osborne, a pro football player, things like that. but i'm like, this is me, this is abdul, this is rita. this was arthur and i want to
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make sure that they got love as well. i have something planned for them as well to show my appreciation for them. i know it is a little bit different. obviously because i'm a football player. >> i love that it is something that you all did together and that you are celebrating with him in that. kate osborne, thank you so much. >> of course man, appreciate you having me. thank you. >> the town hall american addicted to fentanyl is next right after a quick break. for people who are a little intense about hydration. neutrogena® hydro boost lightweight. clinically proven. 48-hour hydration. for that healthy skin glow. neutrogena®. for people with skin. hi, i'm tony hawk, and like many of you, i take a statin to reduce cholesterol, but statins can also deplete coq10 levels. that's why my doctor recommended qunol coq10. qunol has the number one cardiologist recommended form of coq10. qunol. the brand i trust.
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party or by friends. one pill that they've only had a tiny amount of fentanyl, the size of a pencil tip. but it was enough to kill them. fentanyl is a destroyer of our children and our families. i want you at home to take a look for a moment around the room that we are in right now tonight. every one of our guests and of all of our studio audience hasn't always been touched by this crisis. again, we want to make it clear that doesn't just mean by addiction, accidental poisoning by fentanyl is a major, major problem as well. according to centers for disease control, more than 70,000 people in this country died in 2021 from fentanyl and other synthetic opioids. 70,000 americans, up from nearly non just 20 years ago. one reason why, take a look at these two vials, in one, a lethal dose of heroin. any other, so little you can barely see it is a lethal dose of fentanyl. it is cheap to make, it is easy to smuggle,
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