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top of the new hour here on "cnn newsroom." i'm victor blackwell. >> a police department compromised by routine discrimination and an affront to the people who they have sworn to serve and protect. those are direct quotes from the department of justice's two-year
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investigation into the louisville police department. >> attorney general merrick garland announced the systemic problems his team found just days before the three-year anniversary of the case that prompted the review, the death of breonna taylor, a black woman who was shot and killed during a no-knock raid on her apartment. >> the report finds that lmpd uses excessive force including unjustified neck restraints and the unreasonable use of police dogs and tasers, conducts searches based on imbalanced warrants, unlawfully executes warrants without knocking and announcing, unlawfully stops, searches, detains and arrests people, unlawfully discriminates against black people in enforcement activities, violates the rights of people engaged in protected speech, critical policing. and along with louisville metro discriminates against people
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with behavioral health disabilities when responding to them in crisis. >> cnn's senior justice correspondent jessica schneider joins us now. so, jessica, really troubling and disturbing details from attorney general garland today. what happens next? >> you heard that long list of problems. what comes next here, wolf? we've already heard from louisville officials including the mayor. on top of that the city of louisville has signed this agreement to work with doj on further change. so that's all in the works here. as for this 90-page report it's scathing and documents and the report lays it out in this way. it says for years lmpd has practiced an aggressive style of policing it deploys selectively especially against black people but also against vulnerable people without the city.
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lmpd cites people for minor offenses like wide turns and broken turn lights while serious crimes like sexual assault and homicide go unsolved. as we saw attorney general merrick garland he was in louisville today. he listed through that litany of problems with the department that includes use of excessive force, unlawful arrests, invalid warrants, and he even gave examples of the blatant racism some officers exhibit. take a listen. >> some officers have demonstrated disrespect for the people they are sworn to protect. some have videotaped themselves throwing drinks at pedestrians from their cars, insulted people with disabilities, and called black people monkeys, animal, and boy. this conduct is unacceptable. it is heart breaking. >> and this investigation was announced two years ago and all
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in the wake of the death of breonna taylor during that botched police raid. the officials actually involved in that are currently facing federal charges, and this report just adds to the finding of the doj. today it was breonna taylor's mother and attorney ben crump who released statements about this. and they said these findings in their view is really an indicator breonna's death was not in vain because of all the work they've done in locating these problems within the police department and that breonna taylor's family, they say, will keep fighting to protect community members from what they call the department offense racist tactics and behavior. the attorney general did point out that a number of changes have already been made. you know, no-knock warrants are no longer allowed in louisville, training has been revamped, and now more mental health professionals are accompanying police on 911 calls. changes in the works here but a lot more to be done.
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>> we should note next week marks the anniversary of breonna taylor's death as well. tomorrow the department of justice also announced a new investigation into the memphis police department. this one is rooted in the january beating death of tyre nichols. >> cnn crime and justice correspondent shimon prokupecz joins us now. what more will the doj be investigating with this now? >> so use of force policy, deescalation policies, looking at some of what the training is, what were officers told to do in cases of use of force and deescalation. and so this all comes obviously after the tyre nichols death and what happened there at that aggressive car stop where we see body camera footage and just officers really aggressively taken him down and into custody. so now the doj after complaints to community members and family obviously they've decided they're going to review. but they're also reviewing specialized units all across the country now, which was what this
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unit was, this scorpion unit, this plain clothes unit that rode around in unmarked cars and did crime stops to aggressively deal with the crime problems in memphis. now as a result of this doj said, we're going to look at specialized units across the country. and last night the city of memphis is already instituting new policy that undercover cars, unmarked police cars can no longer pull over people, drivers unless there's some circumstance. the community calling for the changes and starting to see the changes. all of this happening as we were supposed to get video today. all of a sudden we get some 20 hours of video and all of a sudden at the last minute the defense attorney for one of the officers filed a motion asking the judge to preclude it from coming out, so the judge agreeing and waiting. we just got a statement from an
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attorney who released the statement after filing this order, and he essentially explains that he did this because he wants to protect his client, the jury. he said police departments often uncover evidence that is irrelevant for judicial misleading or inadmissible. the order issued today will allow all parties to review the information that the memphis police department wants to release. and then he also says, look, he doesn't want stuff coming out that shouldn't come out, but ultimately that shouldn't be up to him. that should be up to the memphis police department and city officials there. he's trying to protect his client. there's information that can come out that's not relevant. what's going to come out and said in public and eventually said to court is going to be two different things. we're still expecting to see this video. the d.a.'s office says they wanted to release this video. >> how many hours again? 20 hours. >> a, you know, victor as you
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pointed out earlier he didn't object, this defense attorney didn't object to the other video coming out. why now all of a sudden? i think he was looking for a win, he got a win here and he will see. >> temporarily. >> thank you, shimon. charles mcclellan. councilwomen, let's start with you and your reaction to what you heard from the attorney general today and the findings of their investigation. >> very disheartened. the information that was received today was very unsettling. however, it just really confirmed the things that we have known or suspected for quite some time. >> chief, it was interesting that the mayor of louisville in response to this said today that some residents would be horrified and surprised by these findings and others will see it as consformation of what they already knew and had
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experienced. how do you go about regaining trust of a community having witnessed this first-hand? >> well, it's going to take a lot of time and a lot of hard work because for something like this to happen and be systemic throughout the organization you have to remember and go back to how these things start. when you hire the wrong people, don't train them properly, don't have the proper supervision and oversight and leadership all the way to the top of the organization, you know, the chief executive officer, the police chief doesn't monitor these things closely this act can happen. this particular action by the doj is widespread throughout the department. and without the death of breonna taylor, i suspect louisville police department would be operating as usual.
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so going forward it's going to take a lot of resources from the city of louisville to implement these changes. but the important part, they have did irreparable harm to the community and police community relations. and that is really the only effective way to reduce crime, when you work cooperatively with the public and they have confidence in the police department. these units, sometimes these specialty units are started because of an outcry from the public, elected officials off high crime rates. but they don't have input into the strategies. so police chiefs, police departments, they implement these specialty units, give thel specialty uniforms, unmarked cars, sometimes plain clothesed. they set their own hours, they make a lot of overtime money and
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there's a lot of pressure to produce results. so sometimes they start to push the envelope by using zero-tolerance tactics on minor violations, walking across the street where there's no crosswalk, a stop to intervene. >> councilwomen, it's only been, what, a few hours since we heard from attorney general garland the findings of this investigation. but as you look forward on what needs to be done and hearing what you did there from the former chief, is this an investment in training that's necessary. do you see a need for change in leadership to change the culture? has the framework plan begun yet? >>. >> well, my recommendation -- well, first let me say i support
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the chief. i support the mayor and the administration. they adopted and inherited this, and immediately as soon as they came in they knew that something was coming down the pipeline. they just didn't know exactly what everything was looking like. but they've already kind of been proactive. i really feel bad for chief bill oreal, and i'm going to work hard with the community to help her bridge that gap. this was kind of thrown in her lap. i feel that lmpd needs to follow the six chief pillars of the 21st century of policing that obama put in place. i think that would be a great addition at this point.
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i feel like that the west end, which is my district, was a target for the viper unit. and that was a great question you asked. how do lmpd, how do the city recover from this, but my question is how do my constituents recover from this? >> so charles, chief, to that point you talk about developing trust with the community. i went back and you were police chief back in houston in 2012 you met with community activists about alleged police brutality. you met with them for a little over an hour, and after the meeting they had told a local news station that you, quote, listened to a list of suggestions during the meeting, you agreed to send a memo to patrol officers addressing the public's right to film officers actions, and you also agreed to make announced and unannounced
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visits to officers on night patrol. how meaningful were meetings like those? and should we see more of them amongst police chiefs and community members? >> absolutely. you've got to remember the mission of the police is to protect and serve, and the community must have input into how law enforcement operates in their neighborhoods. they must have input into policies, procedures, training, and discipline of officers. that's all a part of it. it is the taxpayer's dime, so to speak, that police say these are your constituents. you've got to listen to your musters. so the community should be involved in all police agencies in their communities and neighborhoods from top to bottom. and i think we did a poor job
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over the years enlaw enforcement by not listening enough to what the community is saying because we have been so focused on reducing crime by using draconian zero-tolerance tactics and not working cooperatively with the community and resolving issues and problems that way. so i think this is a wakeup call for police chiefs across the country. you need to take heed, hire the right people, train them the right way, manage them the right way, make sure that you break down these systemic negative cultures, and look at your specialized units. i will say this, that during the obama administration when eric holder was attorney general there was quite a bit of
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oversight over police departments across the country. when attorney jeff sessions came into office there was little or no oversight. so i don't know if we bring it back toward that way under attorney general merrick garland, but there is some systemic problems in law enforcement. >> well, you call it a wakeup call. i think we've had way too many wakeup calls. >> every six months we're getting a wakeup call, whether it's one of these reports or seeing another video of someone being killed on camera, there's been many wakeup calls. >> we're all awake and aware. it's time to act on it. charles mcclelland and -- i'm sorry, we're tight on time. we'll have you back for sure. and councilwoman tammy hawkins, thank you for your time. we appreciate it. important conversation. well, house republicans are getting ready to launch multiple investigations into january 6th. one of their pmain points of focus how the democratic select committee is investigating the attack in the first place. more on that ahead.
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the gop is moving ahead in its mission to reexamine the january 6th insurrection. sources tell cnn house republicans are starting to plan several investigations into the attack. now, the potential areas of scrutiny include security failures, the select committee's actions and the treatment of january 6th defendants. >> cnn's manue raju is on capitol hill with new reporting. what are you learning, manue? >> yeah, there are two separate committees part of looking into january 6th and the aftermath. one the house oversight committee looking to how january 6th defendants have been treated in the d.c. jail. there's been some concerns from some far-right members have raised the concern. the chairman of that committee told me it's not going to be an
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investigation per se but he's going to allow for a tour of that facility to see how they've been treated. judges who have looked into this have rejected the notion they've been treaty poorly, but nevertheless they're going to look into that. then there's going to be the actions of the democratic led committee itself, republicans on the administration committee plan to look into how that select committee in the last congress investigated. they say there are shortcomings, and they say they're going through all the documents they have obtained from the democratic led investigation to see what holes if any there are, and they plan to pursue that going forward. that's what congressman barry loudermilk who's going to spearhead this going forward told me earlier today. >> the january 6th committee dropped the ball on what actually happened here in the capitol. where was the security? >> are you looking into trump's role on this? >> we're not relitigating 2020. we're looking at how the people got into the capitol.
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>> but all this exposing a divide within the republican party particularly among a lot of house republicans and senate republicans. one senate republican mitt romney told me earlier today he's concerned about this effort to sort of change the narrative about january 6th, about the deadly violence that occurred that day at the hand of trump supporters, and he pushed back on any efforts to rewrite history. >> a lot of people were injured. our building was severely damaged, and efforts to try to pretend it was something other than that are despicable and frankly dangerous because it makes it more likely people to think things like this are acceptable and they might try and do them in the fuch. >> of course this all comes as speaker mccarthy had given access to fox news host tucker carlson of all this internal security footage from january 6th of that day. c carlson then went on-air to down-play events causing concern among senate republicans, some
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house republicans as well. mccarthy though, defiant and saying he's doing it in the name of transparency. >> manue, thank you. president biden is set to deliver a major speech on his budget proposal tomorrow, but today the white house is announcing a key focus. the president will propose cutting federal deficits by close to $3 trillion over the next decade and says those cuts will be offset by tax increases on the wealthy and large corporations. >> it proposes tax reforms to ensure the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share while cutting wasteful spending on special interests like big oil and big pharma. >> a part of the idea here is to undercut the republican argument that ties the deficit reduction to the debt ceiling. the president has said the two should not be linked and that raising the debt ceiling is nonnegotiable. by joined now by republican
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congresswoman, she represents new york's 11th district. congresswoman, good to have you. let's start with what we know and of course we haven't had the full rollout. that comes tomorrow. first thoughts. >> well, my first thoughts are that this needs to be a bipartisan approach. we need to have a seat at theitably. we believe everything should be in discussion at this moment. however, to come right out of the gate and say you want to increase taxes on americans i think that's the wrong approach. there is a lot of wasteful spending in washington. i mean we just had a hearing where we talked about nearly $400 billion that was stolen by fr frau fraudsters and international organizations and covid relief money. we see the amount of money being spent without border securities being taken place. we see inspectors general across the board different agencies
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coming out with recommendations how we could save money, how we could put safe guards in place to protect taxpayers. i think we need to look at where we can save. you have a bunch of programs, by the way, that have not been re-authorized, that they have discretionary funding, and we never even discussed what is the merit of those programs, are they accomplishing their goals or is that money can be shifted else, and i think what republicans want to look at is cost saving measures. we want to make sure we do not default, by the way. i'm very much committed to ensuring that does not happen, but i also want to make sure we are fulfilling our obligations in terms of medicare and social security, so that leaves the discretionary funding and other parts. i think if we review the inspector general's recommendations that could be huge cost savings for taxpayers. >> "the new york times" is reporting the house republicans are relying on a framework bell
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by president trump's budget director and includes a 40% cut in foreign aid. could you back a 40% cut in foreign aid spending, which of the overall budget is about 1%? >> yeah, so, i say there are certainly savings. i was actually the ranking member on international organizations committee where we did oversee all that foreign aid. and quite frankly there's a lot of money that's going overseas where we don't know where it's actually going. there are no metrics in place, and that is one of the things i've constantly brought up in our hearings. if you look at afghanistan, for example, there are billions of dollars spent in afghanistan whether that be through the department of state or whether it be by the department of defense that went into areas where, you know, they went to pay for ghost armies, for example, people that actually didn't exist. they built buildings that were never used. -- >> sure but of the 45% cut, would you back a 45% cut?
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>> i can't commit to a specific number right now. i don't think it's just about throwing a number out there. i think it's got to be specific. you know, where's the money going, why is it going there, and is it fulfilling its purpose? but the truth is there are countries that do not support us whether it be the united nations, there are countries gnat do not like us and yet they still receive foreign aid, and i think that has to be reexamined. my whole thing that money is fulfilling its specific goal. i think that's these inspector general reports is where we should be starting because they point out the fraud, point out the abuse and there is some cost saving to be had. particularly with strategic aid it needs to have a purpose and a goal. >> let's talk about the first hearing today of this covid subcommittee. you had the former cdc director there. there has been this claim by republicans that there is some
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cover-up of what the administration -- the current administration knows about the origins of covid-19. what did you learn today? >> well, dr. fauci who served in both the previous and the current administration, said quite clearly that he didn't believe that the lab leak theory was accurate. in fact, he commissioned scientists to prove otherwise. and it seems he had put his -- wrapped his head around this narrative of the natural origin and did everything he could to debunk the lab leak theory, but now it's coming to light -- republicans have been saying this for quite some time that the lab leak theory is acerous and most likely. and even we're seeing agencies within this administration confirming that whether it be the fbi, whether it be the department of energy, and so what we're finding out here is that dr. fauci seemed to not want americans to know that this
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was part of a lab leak. and quite frankly it was a lab leak that came from the wuhan lab, which by the way american tax dollars made their way there through the eco-health alliance. and so what one of the witnesses who was a former director, dr. redfield of the cdc told us not only was it american tax dollars that went there from nih, but he believes it was from department of state, from u.s. aid, he believes it was department of defense. so when you talk about cutting foreign aid, that's an area we should not be funding labs in communist countries that are adversaries to be doing data function research that could have developed this virus. >> dr. fauci has said the u.s. does not, has not funded gain of function research, but that's for him to answer. and speaking of answers -- let me finish because i'll give you a chance to answer. you all released this memo just a couple days before this first
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hearing and it's all about dr. fauci. you did not invite dr. fauci to answer these questions. will you do that, and why not today? >> i would love to. it's not my decision. it's the chairman's. i believe dr. fauci should be coming to the committee. i think the goal here is to question those around him first and follow those answers and facts to where they lead. if it leads to dr. fauci he should be coming forward to the committee as should peter with eco health alliance which is where the money was funneled from nih to eco health and to the wuhan lab. dr. fauci did deny where that nih funding went. but in an e-mail we were able to produce we were able to show the connection here he was informed, quite frankly, of that funding, that nih money through nih went to the wuhan lab. and i think he's later backtracked on that, and by the way we have the proof to show it. there's no doubt that money did make its way to the wuhan lab, and that is something where we
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should be not be seeing that money ever going to a communist country's lab that developed this gain of function research that may have then produced this virus. >> all right, so we know that the energy department, several of their agencies, well the fbi has varying degrees of confidence in the important, the four agencies have low confidence it was naturally developed and spread. i know that the hearings will continue and we'll see if you get dr. fauci to come and answer some questions. congresswoman representing staten island and a little bit of brooklyn, thanks so much. >> thank you. as the fighting in bakhmut intensifies nato's chief now warns the ukrainian city may fall to russia in the coming days. we'll have more on that up next. ♪ get directv with a two year price e guarantee.
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turning now to the war in ukraine and the grinding battle for the eastern city of bakhmut. ukraine says russian troops are still advancing but insists that its forces are still repelling attacks and holding off the enemy in bakhmut and towns nearby. >> meantime ukraine's defense minister is pleading for 1 million rounds of ammunition as soon as possible to deter russian forces and continue their counter offensive. in an exclusive interview with cnn's wolf blitzer president zelenskyy defended his decision to keep troops in bakhmut that
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might be needed elsewhere. he insists a withdrawal would create an open road for russia to capture other cities. >> for more on that exclusive interview cnn's wolf blitzer, anchor of the situation room, joins us now. we're so lucky to have you here. >> happy to be here. >> fascinating interview and so timely because there are a lot of people including the u.s. pentagon questioning the decision to keep fighting for bakhmut when they've got a spring offensive. >> president zelenskyy in this nearly one-hour interview we did was so determined to make the case why bakhmut was critically important not just symbolically important but strategically, tactically. and he kept repeating if ukrainians were to lose this in eastern ukraine it would open the door for russians to move into all sorts of other vital areas. let me play a clip from the interview. let's listen for a second. house speaker kevin mccarthy he says he supports ukraine but
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doesn't support what he calls a blank check, a blank check for ukraine. that criticism is being echoed by former president trump and florida governor ron desantis, possible leading contenders for the republican presidential nomination. how worried are you, president zelenskyy? how worried are you about this trend amongst some republicans that it could threaten the flow of support to ukraine? >> translator: firstly, i'd like to thank the bipartisan support of ukraine. it's very important. recently i had a meeting with the representatives of the republican party and i'm thankful to the congressmen who visited ukraine. they told me that they want to support ukraine very much like the democrats, we don't want to slow down. we have a different approach.
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we want to give more now but not dragging it forever. we don't care about the support as long as it's powerful and constant, i think that speaker mccarthy, he never visited kyiv or ukraine. and i think it would help him with his position. when you come to us, when democrats and republicans come to us they see the supply routes. every shell, every bullet, every dollar, he has to come here to see how we work, what's happening here, what war caused us, which people are fighting now, who are fighting. and then after that, make your assumptions. >> and i thought it was pretty extraordinary that president zelenskyy decided to issue this invitation to the speaker during the course of our interview. he wanted to make the case the
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speaker should actually come to kyiv like president biden did a few weeks ago and see first-hand what's going on. our own manu raju had a chance to catch up with the speaker. listen to his response. he basically made the point, guys, that he doesn't have to go there. he knows what's going on. he repeated his line that there should be no u.s. blank check for ukraine, and president zelenskyy in the course of our interview, he was upset when he heard that because he thinks that every dollar the u.s. is providing whether military assistance or economic assistance is used properly and there's no bad things happening with the u.s. support. >> he called an investment when he spoke to congress a few months ago. >> nearly in our conversation we hear the political element. what else did you learn from the president?
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>> he was very determined to make the case if ukraine were to fall -- and he doesn't think it will. he thinks ukraine will eventually win because of the determination of the ukrainian people but if it were, it wouldn't just be a loss for ukraine, it would be a loss for the whole west, a loss for the whole world because it would simply encourage countries like russia to go ahead and take advantage and try to achieve more through aggression and invasion and stuff like that. so he thinks that the stakes are enormous, and he was very forceful and deeply appreciative of what the united states and other western countries have done. but he says if the ukrainians are going to win the u.s. has to start providing f-16 fighter jets, other advanced weapons to ukraine. they need it, they need it to win longer range ground to ground missiles, for example. he says there's no great interest in ukraine attacking targets inside russia. he says that's not going to happen. but to stop the russians because the russians are willing to throw thousands of troops in there, he said the russians don't care how many people they lose, how many men and women die
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in the course of this. the only thing they want to do is destroy ukraine. but the ukrainians -- he says we know every name of every ukrainian soldier who's killed, and it's so painful to us. and he was really blistering in his attack of what putin is doing. >> looks like a fascinating conversation. looking forward to it. wolf blitzer, good to see you in person. thank you so much. >> guys, thank you. >> be sure to join wolf for that interview. it airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. >> veterans are delivering emotional and at times scathing testimony about the chaotic troop withdrawal out of afghanistan. the big take-aways from today's hearing, that's ahead. ever better. it's when disruption hits your supply chain and ryder makes sure you're ever delivering with freight brokege to transportation manament, truckload capacity and
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this morning on capitol hill the house foreign affairs committee chairman read the names of the 13 u.s. service members killed during the pull out of afghanistan. one of their surviving comrades marine sergeant tyler vargas andrews was seen with tears rolling down his cheeks there. vargas andrews who sustained serious injuries in that attack offered searing criticism. >> the withdrawal -- the withdrawal is a catastrophe in my opinion andthrust an inexcusable lack of accountability and negligence. the 11 marines, one sailor and one soldier that were murdered that day have not been answered
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for. >> cnn's kylie atwood is here with more. that was really difficult to listen to. what more was learned? >> yeah, an incredibly emotional story there from that marine who was on the ground when there was that suicide bomb attack from the kabul airport and he told an incredible story about the hours up to that attack. he spotted through his sniper gun a man in the field in the group of thousands outside that gate that looked like the person that intelligence officials had warned was in the vicinity and could be a suicide bomber. he asked his team leader if he could shoot that man and the team leader said he didn't have the authority to give him the go ahead. and the team leader said he wasn't sure and he'll get back to him and hours later we know what happened. 13 dead u.s. service members, and that marine who spoke to lawmakers today is now a double amputee. it was a very, very moving story that he told clearly trying to
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articulate that he felt there wasn't an effective and working chain of command around what was happening as the united states evacuated that country. we also heard from others who were involved in trying to get out those other afghans who were stuck in the country, u.s. veterans, and they talked about how humbling and stupefying it was that government officials were asking them for help instead of them asking the u.s. government for help. >> yeah, that was a dark back on capitol hill today. and it sounds like more rate hikes are coming. we'll get into that nenext.
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fed chair jerome powell was back on capitol hill today talking to house lawmakers about interest rates and, of course, inflation. >> cnn business correspondent rahel solman is with us now. what did he say? >> this is the last time we'll probably hear from chairman powell before the next meeting in about two weeks and the takeaway is that rates will have to be higher for longer than previously expected. the reason why is inflation data and jobs data we've gotten this year has not been what the federal reserve expected. so what happens now? we get a really important jobs report on friday. they'll be looking at that, if, in fact, we see 200,000 jobs added, which is the expectations, that is the lowest level we have seen in years. so they're going to be watching that closely. we have two key inflation reports next year they'll watch that closely. what they're looking for in the reports are signs of cools. are we on a path to 2% inflation. some say you've done enough take
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families of the kidnapping victims in mexico are now revealing how that tragedy unfolded. "the lead" starts right now. she watched her friends die. a woman's dramatic story after armed men kidnapped her and her friends and relatives in mexico. today we're learning more about what happened on tha