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footage, which so far tucker carlson has used to sway the capitol attack of something it was not. his remarks come on a day in which several republican senators criticized his decision and hard on the heels of last night's document dump in dominion voting systems cased against fox. documents revealing that carlson's attempt for the former president for his viewers and for the facts. more on that, shortly. first, some of what the speaker just said. >> one thing that i always want to make sure is that this capitol, it is protected and secured. i want to make sure that the officers here have everything that they need to provide that. my whole role for a january 6th is just being transparent. people can make their own decision with that. >> that is not all he said on the subject. our manu raju found out when he press the speaker, he joins us now. so mccarthy held a press conference today following a congressional budget office report on the debt. what did he say about the january six security footage and how much concern, i mean, are you hearing from members of the house? because members of the senate have spoken out but it doesn't sound like a lot of house members are, republicans. >> a lot of house members are aligning themselves with kevin mccarthy. there are some who are concerned about tucker carlson's portrayal of the events, and one of the people

who is concerned about this is the capitol police chief who said in a memo yesterday that it was offensive, it was misleading, it cherry-picked tucker carlson, the way he portrayed that footage from the speaker of the house. it also was what sinema republican leader, mitch mcconnell aligned himself that he was also concerned about it's betrayal about what happened. how serious the violence was. when tucker carlson claimed based on this footage that he got from kevin mccarthy that he was a mostly peaceful day. so, that is why i asked kevin mccarthy at this press conference about whether or not he agreed with carlson's portrayal that it was mostly peaceful, and the speaker was competitive. >> the capitol police chief and the senate republican leader both raise concerned about the footage that you gave to tucker carlson. the way that he penetrated, he portrayed it as a mostly peaceful day. do you have concerns about that portrayal? >> you asked the same question yesterday. let me walk you back

through that. the capitol police chief, we went to them, and asked, is there any clips in the process of where you see, tell us any warnings. he only had one, and we cleared it up. lo and behold, they already put that lid out on the internet for the last year and a half. i am not sure if you asked based upon any of those about what you did with cnn. when cnn told where the leaders were taken, a secret place where they told us that we couldn't even tell people about -- >> i know, i'm answering your question, you could ask any question you want, but i have the right to answer your question. i am answering his question, thank you. when cnn told the american public that we were at fort maine, i don't know if we could go there. i don't know if that has even changed. but you have now told your network the entire world, where we go. i did not hear one question from your network either when you would know what subpoenas released before anyone else. i didn't know your

network got upset when you sat in statuary hall, when no other networks got anything. and i'm not sure if your network got upset either when you had the speaker of the house daughter do a documentary filming where we are in a secure place walking through this when people were not supposed to know. so now you are upset that we have allowed somebody else to just have transparency. now -- no, the capitol police was able to see it. you know, you know what the capitol police told us as well? that january 6th committee never asked them. so i thank you for your questions. >> before we go on, i do think it is important to address some of what he's saying. because a lot of it is just red herrings. have statements about fort mcmurray, and speaker pelosi's daughter was in reference to a documentary by alexander pelosi who is a noted documentarian. we have portions of the broadcast on cnn. capitol police on every piece of footage that we aired in order to make sure that it didn't

raise security concerns. as for cnn knowing when subpoenas were going to be released before anyone else -- we have some really good reporters who did stuff who found that out, and you know, staked out areas, and saw people coming and going from court houses. and for his comment about statuary hole, we can only get that i was in reference to interview jake tapper and i did on the one year anniversary of january six which we did because we were invited to it. there's nothing secret about what we were doing there. so, now that we have said that, what are lawmakers saying today about this? >> i mean, we are hearing similar concerns from members. he mentioned some house members who mostly have been aligning themselves with the speaker of the house. there are some concerns from house members, one of them of washington state, he told me that he is concerned about the revisionist history. i also heard that from senator

mitt romney who told me that any effort by a news organization to try to portray what happened here was anything other than a violent, disgusting attempt, an attack on our democracy, it's outrageous. but you are seeing some very close allies to kevin mccarthy take a bit of a different approach, in, fact they are planning to present ahead with their own investigation into january 6th going forward. but not about donald trump's roller about what was uncovered by the january 6th select committee and the democratic led congress. but to actually look at what the democratic led community did in and of itself. the chairman of the subcommittee here in the house told me that he plans to look into the january 6th committee investigators themselves, and look into any holes in their investigation. it is not entirely clear what that means, anderson. but it is going to be a focus here. and anderson, kevin mccarthy did not want to make january 6th a focus on this new congress. but by his recent moves, he effectively has.

>> lana raju, appreciated. two former members of the house january 6th committee, adam schiff, and former illinois republican congressman, adam kinzinger. congressman, tucker carlson is getting readings and notoriety out of these tapes. what does speaker mccarthy get out of this other than setting up a scenario where elected republicans will, i guess, be forced to re-litigate january 6th headed into a election year. it is all about appeasing the more extreme elements of the party? >> yeah. by the way, adam senior, a little inside joke, this is all about trying to win over tucker carlson. trying to win over the base. i think that knowing, obviously that they are going to look at this january 6th committee, they want to take hold of the narrative. take hold of the narrative themselves. what they are trying to do is nuts. what they are trying to do is only to appeal to 30%, to the base of the republican party. they are obviously losing the 7% who knew it was exactly what it was. but i will tell you this much, knowing what i know about speaker mccarthy, he is going to be in meetings from here out

with every member of congress showing them personally tucker carlson's phone and phone number, and how he is good buddies now. >> congressman schiff, we heard in the back and forth over the security footage, the capitol police of the january 6th committee never asked them, is that true, do you know? >> as far as i know, that is plain false. i'm not surprised that we would hear another falsehood out of kevin mccarthy, in particular i think that the police chief in that two page letter, taking issue with how the events were represented by tucker carlson, said there was no effort to get that input. even when that was available to them, so i think that mccarthy is getting a lot of flak as he should be for compromising the security of the capital. compromising our escape routes, compromising where security officers were posted. given the material to someone in tucker carlson that we see in the dominion litigation basically privately was acknowledging the

truth about the election and publicly was lying about it and when others were truthful took issue and wanted to get them fired because it would hurt the profits of fox. so this is who kevin mccarthy has decided to trust for the security footage and he has done exactly what was expected and that is misrepresented and in an effort to, as adam was saying, appease the base but also apparently meet commitments he made in order to get the speakership to the most extreme elements of his conference. >> congressman kinzinger, it is extraordinary when you think about what carlson is doing about rewriting history, and on this incredibly important day on january 6th and what happened on that day, and this whole move among more extreme wings, or elements in the republican party, especially in the house to make the people who committed crimes on that day and are serving time because of that make them into some sort of political prisoners and qanon followers

as if they are some sort of heroes. >> it is really, i mean, i look at this and i say what is the endgame here? what is it that they actually want to do? i think it is day-by-day, how do we win primaries, how do we make the base happy, how do we get the bigger dopamine hit. you see what tucker carlson has done. i mean, i could take footage from world war ii and find a little piece of that and convince somebody that it is the moon landing. >> i mean, look at vietnam. there are plenty of footage of marines, and soldiers had their bases, hanging out in saigon, an off time. you can take a video of anybody in the course of a day, when something is not happening and then you can't

say that the vietnam war was not violent and people weren't getting killed. it's ridiculous. >> it is ridiculous, and the whole thing is he is disparaging law enforcement. keep in mind, the republicans say that we want january six to go away. it is time to move, on time to go forward. that is when the facts were coming out and it makes them look bad. now they are trying to rewrite the narrative for the 30%. and they're holding on to, look, tucker carlson disparaging law enforcement, i want to make a point and most of these people will say 20, 30, 40 years old. when tucker was in his twenties and 30s. this is what he was doing, he was out there wearing a bow tie, you know, talking, writing stories, and he is disparaging these people that have taken an oath to defend the constitution, to defend the house, to defend the senate, and to defend america. how dare him, especially in light of the fact that he knows better and he could see that on the text message. >> he also changed, there was a

moment where he saw the writing on the wall and he saw that he needed to revamp his career he was trying to do some stuff that he sensed in the republican party that they did not like. and he followed the crowd. i mean, that is what, that is the path that he is on and has become very profitable for him. i'm sure he has a contract, i'm sure he's doing very well, but it is extraordinary the way that he has shifted. when speaking with mccarthy, you rejected the appointment to serve on the house intelligence committee in the current congress. you sent a letter to minority leader, hakeem jeffries, that quote, i can't put partisan loyalty ahead of national security. is there any other way to look at what he has done with tucker carlson? >> there isn't. plainly, in getting over surveillance video, to someone who would do exactly what adam is describing, and

that is to use them to try to rewrite history and try to emigrate the law enforcement that day. mccarthy did exactly what he was doing, and it had nothing to do with the institution or the interest of our democracy. it only had to do with appeasing the most extreme elements of his conference, and placating the base, and fundraising. that is all that kevin mccarthy is. what is most remarkable to me, anderson, is the american people saw what happened that day. you cannot ignore those images. and yet, the power of repetition is such that people like tucker carlsen, who know that they are lying to the public, can convince tens of millions of people of those lies. i will tell you that it has been really illuminating to me about other periods in history where you had other liars use a powerful megaphone, and convince millions that they can't believe what d. c.. and you wonder how is that possible? and now we see how it is possible when you have people who have no love of country, no patriotic fiber, when it is

just all about the money, then this is what happens. and for tucker carlson, who has many iterations, he's no different than rupert murdoch, it is all about the money and nothing else really matters. >> congressman schiff, adam kinzinger, i appreciate your time. more now on the dominion documents that we have been following and what they reveal. the new ones about the sharp divide between what fox's tucker carlson and others were saying in private versus what he was saying on the air. details now from cnn's -- >> reporters hate trump with an all-consuming mania. they hate him so intensely that at times it has been a museum to watch. >> you can apparently count tucker carlson among them. i hate him passionately, carlson wrote about the former president in a text to a staff member. and there really is not an upside to trump, carlson rhoden another message just two days before rioters stormed the u. s. capitol. on air, carlson told his viewers something different. something very different.

>> what happened today will be used by the people taking power to justify stripping you have the right that you are born with an american. >> all while another text messages, calling trump in the aftermath of january 6th 18 monique force, a destroyer, adding that he is not going to destroy us. in 2020, right after election night, carlson lamented this to his viewers. >> what happened last night could not have been worse for this country for our children, our grandchildren, and our future. >> messages that he sent to his producers show that he couldn't wait for the four years to be over. we are very, very close to being able to ignore trump most nights. i truly can't wait. days after trump tweeted that he skipped president biden's inauguration, carlson privately called the move destructive. on his show, he focused on questioning the legitimacy of the election results. >> 72 million voters believe that this election was fundamentally unfair, and they are right about that.

>> carlson's thoughts on how the trump campaign handled election fraud, also in stark contrast to what he continued to push on air. >> the outcome of our presidential election was seized from the hands of voters, who it rightly belongs to. >> and the conservative host admitted privately that trump needs to concede, there was not enough fraud to change the outcome, he is starting to do real damage to the party. that, well he welcomed guests who spread election fraud conspiracies like mike lindell, rudy giuliani, and attorney, sydney powell. carlson disparaged behind closed doors calling powell, dangerous. sydney powell, is lying by the way, i caught her, it is insane he texted to laura ingraham. he did not respond to multiple requests for comment from cnn, but in a statement about the latest filing, fox news accused dominion of smearing the network. quote, to twist and even missing tribute quotes to the highest levels of our company it's truly beyond the pale. >> it is hard to twist calling the former president a demonic

force and saying i hate him passionately. another batch of documents arrived late this evening in the lawsuit brought by dominion against fox. that is breaking news, we will bring you all the details on that next. what a cnn investigation -- about the red flags of the background of a louisiana police officer who shot and killed an unarmed black man. when it comes to reducing sugar in your family's diet, the more choices, the better. that's why america's beverage companies are working together to deliver more great tasting options with less sugar or no sugar at all. in fact, today, nearly 60% of beverages sold contain zero sugar. different sizes? check. clear calorie labels? just check. with so many options, it's easier than ever to find the balance that's right for you. more choices.

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and the dominion accuses fox of taking, quote, licensed and knowingly spread lies. they are claiming the lawsuit is quote, an unprecedented assault on the first amendment. with me here tonight, cnn senior reporter oliver darcy, also senior associate dean for leadership studies at yale university school of management. the first amendment attorney who we will point out has represented both fox and cnn and many other media companies. what are you learning from these latest files? >> these are the last legal filings that we really expect, the last major ones before a judge rules on motions for a summary judgment which is basically the fox and dominion are asking a judge to rule in their favor before it goes to a jury trial. as you said, the dominion saying that fox is filing asking for a license to lie and fox is saying that this lawsuit represents an assault on the first amendment. the dominion has said that fox

knows the truth about what happened in the 2020 election, and is saying that if fox cared about the truth that it now acknowledges that fox would have its top personalities reporting the truth to its audience today if it were not for dominion sake, then the significant percentage of americans who still wrongly believe the 2020 election was stolen, including so many of fox's own loyal fluid viewers who heard it over and over again on fox's airwaves, i would not hold my breath on that, when in fact tucker carlson continues until this week to sow doubt about the 2020 election. >> what do you make of the contrast that we are seeing between what fox hosts were saying in private compared to what they were saying on the air from a legal standpoint in terms of this case does it matter? >> it matters with respect to carlson and with respect to hannity, because their shows are among those that are being challenged in the lawsuit, so their state of mind with respect to truth or falsity in

particular times, for instance when mike lindell came on carlson's show is definitely relevant. with respect to others like laura ingraham who had none of her programs suit about, it is less relevant. >> i want to get your reaction to what we learned last night about what rupert murdoch thought about the lies that they were repeating. repeatedly the lawyers asked things like do you believe the dominion was vacation the massive incarnated effort to steal the 2020 presidential election, he says no. have you ever seen any credible evidence to suggest that they were -- he says no. in your opinion, professor, what kind of jeopardy does that open the fox parent company up to? >> i think enormous jeopardy. we have problem with these for anchors, and we have a big problem with this board of directors, particularly for five members of this board, especially murdaugh him self who has created his own monster that he can't control, it is that he doesn't believe what

they are saying, and both he and loughlin murdaugh, his son, paul ryan on the board, and out of all blood curdling things, the ceo, the managing partner of a major law firm on that board did nothing to show the minimum care, the duty of loyalty to the 60% owners that they are allowing themselves to destroy the value of this brand by putting out this false news and putting them in jeopardy, and what this shows as all over says is as it continues even tonight, putting out false information that there is no contrition. so leave it to them whether or not it is a slam dunk case, i don't see how they lose this case. but the punitive is here, because they are continuing putting out what they know to be false have got to be sky-high. not to mention the derivative lawsuit from the 60% shareholders that have seen this value destruction. there is nothing like it. this is way

worse than creating the spanish american war by misstating who sunk the main. we have a president for this and this is its own new precedent. >> when fox makes the argument that this is a strike against the first amendment, what do you make of that argument as somebody who, you know, fights for the first amendment? >> i am not persuaded by it, if anything i think it is quite the opposite, it shows that in a democracy we value truth and we like to give -- so long as they're operating in good faith. if they happen to inadvertently, or even negligently published falsehood, they are still protected by the first amendment but what they do not protect is the deliberate falsehood, the

knowing lie, and if a plaintiff like dominion can prove that fox deliberately lied, were deliberately podcast things that it knew to be probably falls, and we could prove that by clearing convincing evidence, then that speech is not protected by the first amendment. >> and the fact that the dominion was very early on and repeatedly sending emails to every producer, every on-air person, executives at fox newsm with facts counter balancing what they were actually reporting on the air, how significant is that? >> it is enormously significant. i was struck by reading the filings today that the kinds of proof that plaintiffs typically rely on in usually opposing a summary judgment motion brought by a media entity like fox, the circumstantial evidence that shows that there was actual malice. in this brief today,

the discussion of that kind of evidence begins on page 75 and of an 86-page brief. the prior 75 pages talks about things that are unique to this case. the kinds of evidence of actual malice. including the fact that fox was put on notice by dominion for weeks at a time, virtually every day, with information showing that what had just gone on the air was false. often, when fox would re-broadcast the same programs later in the day, that kind of stuff you don't usually see in defamation cases. and there is such a wealth of it in this case that it almost takes your breath away. >> oliver darcy, thank you guys so much, appreciate it. the department of justice finds

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>> the department of justice today released an 86-page report on the louisville metro police department. the report was prompted by the fatal police shooting of breonna taylor who was killed during a botched raid at her apartment using a no knock warrant. the two year investigation found a long list of problems including use of excessive force, and what they called an aggressive style of policing against black people including some officers who called black people monkeys, animal, and boy. also, the department doesn't lawfully executing search warrants. breonna taylor calls the report heartbreaking. she says it is an indicator that breonna's death is not in vain. meanwhile, we have an investigation tonight into a police officer into another city charged with negligent homicide in a shooting of an unarmed black man. cnn's ryan young joins us with that. what more can you

tell us? >> anderson, sometimes when you go to the cities after the shootings, people start standing up to give you information. it was some police officers on the shreveport police department that told us that we should look into our personal file for alexander tile. they said we should look into this because members of the community have been upset that he's still in the force. >> shreveport police, what is your emergency? >> just before 11 pm on february 3rd, a 9-1-1 domestic disturbance call turns into a deadly foot chase. officer alexander tyler runs after 43 year old -- after he jumped from a second floor apartment balcony. about five seconds later -- [sound of gunfire] >> oh god! >> shots fired! >> for the next two minutes, the officers plead with mr. bagley to keep breathing. >> stay with me. >> he stops breathing, dying a short time later at the hospital. the louisiana state police took over the

investigation into the shooting and recommended involuntary homicide charges against tyler who fired the shot. the 23-year-old is currently out on bond and paid administrative leave from the department. in early february, cnn asked the shreveport police chief, wayne smith, if officer tyler had prior disciplinary issues. >> disciplinary wise, i would not say that he has been a disciplinary issue, or at least not to the point where things would rise on our radar. >> but the officer's personnel file tells a different story. cnn obtained more than 350 pages as well as nine videos and four audio files of officer tyler's employment record with the police department through an open records request. in that, one letter of commendation in april of 2022. but in just 21 months on the job, officer tyler has already served 30 days of suspension and previously faced three

disciplinary events. >> do you think officer tyler should be on the police force? >> absolutely not. he should not be on the force the day he killed our client. i think that we have seen an officer who has unintentional reckless behavior. >> among those disciplinary events -- >> on the ground! don't move, arms out! >> in march, 2022, a woman complained that tyler and six officers illegally detained minors and questioned them without adults present. also while searching a house without a warrant. shreveport police department cleared tyler and the other officers of wrongdoing in that case. in july, 2022, shreveport police internal affairs wanted to know more about this video, showing tyler's patrol car exceeding speeds of 130 miles per hour. tylor says he tried pulling over a car for a modified exhaust, a minor traffic violation. the personnel file notes that he did not have a

description of the suspects, and tyler didn't know what he was chasing. as part of the departments investigation into tyler's handling of the incident, he was interviewed by internal affairs. >> it was basically a smooth pursuit, it was just excessive -- >> way too fast. >> got you. >> the department found that tyler violated department policy during that pursuit, and then there is this, one month after the pursuit, investigators say that officers were racing each other for fun when this happened. >> you need to get over here really quick. >> you can see a bloody, groggy officer tyler being helped from his patrol car. he lays flat, then another officer comes over to help him. according to investigators, officer tylor was driving his patrol car at 60 miles per hour in a 35 mile-per-hour zone. he hit a car nearly head on. two passengers, and tyler had to be taken to the hospital. during the review, investigators determined that he and two other officers misused the radar guns to clock each

other's speeds while racing down the road. an accusation they all denied to internal affairs. tyler was suspended for 15 days, and his attorney does not believe these past incidents should have any impact on the present case. >> it is an unfortunate situation for the family, and it is an unfortunate situation for officer tyler, it is an unfortunate situation for our city of shreveport and the police department. >> city activists and the bagley family attorney believe that more oversight is needed to keep eyes on this small police department amid violent crime concerns. >> they absolutely have dropped the ball as of late to this point in trying to curtail this behavior. >> i understand that you have details showing mr. bagley, who was shot and killed, had prior a incident with the police. >> that is something that we have been talking to people in this community about. mr. bagley apparently was under arrest for something else when he was hit several times. he sued the police department, and settled with the city of shreveport. some people who we

were talking to were actually telling us that they believe the police department needs to be looked into because they are worried that some of these officers are not facing enough discipline. anderson, i want to highlight this fact here. it was other police officers who talked to me while i was in that town who said that we needed to do this open records request, because they were concerned that everything they see in this file needed to be exposed to the public. >> i appreciate it, thanks. really incredible, but frankly, it kind of creepy report from our donie o'sullivan is next. it involves artificial intelligence, deepfakes, and apparently, me. >> we have come to talk to a digital forensics expert about ho w easy it is to put words

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>> so, depict analogy is incredible. it has part of life like versions tankers, you've probably seen jerry seinfeld. it could be i'm using, funny, it could also be very creepy and dark, as our danya sullivan

has previously reported that the technology has been turning against women to make revenge porn. u. s. intelligence has warned about the potential threats in national security posed by deepfakes. tonight, we are back with a look at how i could fake our own voices, including my own. >> hello? >> hi, mom. >> how are you? >> does my voice sound different to you? >> yeah, i said you sound different, you found american. >> this is not actually me. this is a voice made by a computer. >> oh my god, are you serious? >> yeah,, sorry. there has been an explosion in a fake audio voices being generated through artificial intelligence technology. this is an a i cloned version of leonardo dicaprio's voice. >> all you need is a couple of minutes recording of anyone's voice and you can make it seem like they have said just about anything. even -- >> anderson cooper, we have come here to uc berkeley today

to talk to any fareed, a digital forensic expert, about just how easy it is to put words into other people's mouths. >> it is a lot of fun, sure. but it is also really scary. >> i think once you put aside that factor, i don't think it takes a long time to look at the risks. >> this is wolf blitzer, you are in the situation room. >> that is really good. >> by uploading just a few minutes of me and some of my colleagues voices to ni audio service, i was able to create convincing figs, including this one of anderson cooper. >> donie o'sullivan is a real piece of [bleep]. >> that is a i. >> is it really? >> that's good. anderson's is really good. because anderson doesn't have a stupid irish accent. >> the technology did struggle with my irish accent, but we decided to put it to the ultimate test with my parents. >> i am about to try to call my mom, back in ireland, and see if i can trick her with this voice. do you think i will be

successful? >> i'm nervous, look at my hands. >> all right. >> hello? >> hi mom. >> hi donie, how are you? >> just finished shooting our story here, i'm going to the airport in a while. >> there seems to be a delay in the phone. >> can i say a quick hello to dad? >> yeah. >> hi donie. >> hi dad. how are you? >> good, yourself? >> just finished shooting our story here. going to the airport in a while. >> oh, you're going back? >> -- [inaudible]. >> my dad went on to have a conversation with the a i donny about how or home football team had a game that weekend. eventually, i had to come clean. >> dad, i will give you a call

later on, could you just put me on to mom for a second? >> my parents knew something was off, but ultimately they stil l fell for it. >> it was like your voice was a little tone lower, and it sounded very serious. i went oh, jeez -- >> oh, sorry. >> [inaudible]. >> all right -- i'll call you later, dad. bye. >> this is not classic, the mom was like, something is wrong with my son. the dad is, like everything is fine. >> i would like to close out today's ceremony with a question. if you are given a choice, woul d you choose to

have unlimited bacon but no more video games? >> with fake biden and trump recordings going viral online, fareed says this could be something to be wary of going into the 2024 election. >> when we enter this world where everything could be fake, any image, any audio, any video, any piece of text, nothing has to be real. we have what is called a liars dividend which is anyone can deny reality. >> -- i don't think we as a field have fully come to grips with our responsibility here. >> in the meantime, i'll continue annoying my colleagues. >> i've been doing this a long time.

i have to say, donie o'sullivan is probably the best in the business. >> it's very kind of him to say that. >> you know, you should be honored, really. i would never say that. you know you are. [laughter] so, this is fascinating to me. it's funny, it's also scary. as you pointed out in that

piece, you could take somebody 's voice, call your mom, and have some scam against her saying you are in trouble and needed her to wire money immediately. >> yeah. my parents are -- when i pick up the phone to them again, they'll be like, is this really donie? but look, this technology is so crazy powerful. to create the deepfake of you, we only needed a minute or two of audio. and you can immediately start typing, putting words in your mouth. obviously, as we go to the 2020 election, think of the role that audio has played in previous campaigns. the hollywood tape, the romney type, even kind of the watergate tips. all that sort of stuff, as well as just, as you mention, the kind of scams, tricking people, weiss did a report where they were able to break into a bank account that had a voice -- >> i think -- somebody who's tired, and a loved one wants to hear their loved ones voice, and even commune with them -- that's a potential in the future. >> that would be easy to do now. as well as something of chatgpt, where you could mimic what they would say, between them together. >> it's incredible. donie o'sullivan, thank you so much. just ahead, scary incidents like this on the united airlines flight this week. -- how safe airline travel is. we will show you some numbers to see if there's reason to be concerned. we'll be right back.

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>> united airlines passenger arrested this week for threatening to stab a flight attendant in the neck during a flight from l. a. to boston was just one of several scary moments on a flight this week. >> -- tell us what to shoot me down. they have to shoot me down today. remember that. are they diverting you guys? wherever it is, there's gonna be a bloodbath. you can all run away if you want. then, you can run. i won't kill you. i'm both azar. just put up your hands and don't approach me, because i'm

bald desire. >> -- i'm up in the image and see dormant flight. also this, week a southwest flight out of havana -- smoke into the cabin. there's also midair collision between two small planes in florida where people died, and there is the time it collision at boston -- between two united airlines planes. the right-wing of one plane struck the tail of another. and in connecticut, a person aboard a player that jet died after severe turbulence. that of a pilot union said after several near midair collisions, the system is under stress. -- numbers on this, to see if there's a trend here -- but does the data show?

>> look. the faa is the official data that only goes through the end of january. but we know there are three of these, quote, near collisions. right? significant potential for an accident. now, look at the trend going back to -- how many, essentially, of those near accidents occurred per month? 0. 4. so we're looking at something between 8 to 9 times the normal number, and of course, and in february in march we had -- but the trend line seems to be continuing. >> if that trend line just based on the month of january? >> it's based on the month of january, but also seems one based on the month of february, right?

if we just said january, i would be sitting with you. but based on what we're seeing in favor, we're seeing a continuation of the trend that started in january. >> what about turbulence? >> the realign, so we had some scary stuff that's been going on, and the data on that is tricky to understand. but we have tracked it from 2009 to 2021 on commercial airlines, and we know that the quote unquote serious injuries were about 2. 3 per year. 2. 3 per year. then, look at december of 2022. there are 11 serious injuries on just one hawaiian flight, then in march of 2023, we had seven hospitalizations on just one flight. so we're running well ahead of the sort of normal average that we would be expecting per year in just one incident in december, and potentially won in march. those were hospitalizations, not necessarily serious

injuries. >> that was just one flight? >> this is one flight in which you have 11 serious injuries versus 2. 3 per year. we're talking about one flight covering, what is that? more than five times or four times the amount that you've seen in a year normally. >> why would there be more close calls in january? >> there are two things that are going on here. number one, seeing a lot more air travel than we're used to over the last few years. right? we had the covid pandemic, airlines went out and about as much. and if you look right now on the number of airline passengers receive, or back to pre-pandemic levels. that's one thing that's going on. the second thing that's going on as we have a lot of new pilots who aren't necessarily trained on sort of these busy runways that we used to see, especially pre-pandemic. >> and the unruly passenger incidents, what do we? now >> this is the one bit of good news. i feel like i've been booming gloom all this segment, which is not my natural state of being, but the numbers of numbers. >> really? >> who knew, right? i like to be jovial, right? i do have good news. we haven't had a single fatality this year. we haven't had a single airline fatalities on a commercial airline since 2020. more than that, the number of unruly passengers, we've actually had a low average number. so yes, there are these incidents that escape, the fact is, the numbers are actually pretty much in line if not below line on that particular. >> i appreciate it. >> thanks so much.

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