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learn more, and view important safety information at inspiresleep.com >> perhaps you've seen the little gizmo on screen all day. there it is there. it's right there in the bottom right of your screen, promoting with blitzers interview with president volodymyr zelenskyy. time has now arrived. the cnn prime times but shull, the zelenskyy interview, hosted by with -- wolf blitzer, starts right now. tonight, a wartime president with the message to the world. [speaking non-english] >> we will have our victory. >> volodymyr zelenskyy in an exclusive interview with cnn on the urgent battle.

>> things are looking rather grim for ukrainian forces in and around the city of bakhmut. >> the execution video of a ukraine -- you essay to ukraine and republican skepticism about spending more. >> i said no blank checks. >> what president biden told him in the war zone. [sirens] and his plea for american warplanes. >> our western fighter jets, u.s. fighter jets, the weapon that will make or break a ukrainian victory. >> a cnn primetime special, the zelenskyy interview starts right now. good evening, i'm wolf pulitzer at this very moment, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy at his nation are facing a critical time in russia's invasion. now and its second year.

for the first time in some eight months, the russians could be on the cusp of capturing a ukrainian city, bakhmut, in the east, the side of the longest and bloodiest battle of this war. nato secretary general warned that bakhmut may fall in the coming days. today, ukraine's militar y claims to be holding off putin"s army in adn around the city, saying they killed more than 100 russian soldiers in a 24 -hour period. but they also acknowledged that russians are still advancing and they're advancing fast. where at cnn's headquarters, where -- first, president zelenskyy says if the russians gain control of bakhmut, it could change the course of the entire war. here is part one of my interview. >> mister president, thank you so much for joining us at this crucial moment in your country 's history. i want to start with a battle

for bakhmut. ukraine has put up a tremendous fight and inflicted massive losses on the russian side. but in recent days, russian forces have made some critical gains there. why have you decided not to withdraw from bakhmut? >> [interpreter] firstly, thank you. and all your audience, for this opportunity to talk to you. informational support is extremely important to us, and informational support is no less important than support with weapons. that's why, thank you again. as to the bakhmut situation, we understand what russia wants to achieve their. russia needs at least some victory, a small victory, even by ruining everything in bakhmut. just killing every civilian there. they need to put their little flag on top of that to show their society. it's not a victory for them. it's more like, you know, to mobilize their society in order to create this idea that they have such a powerful army.

for us, it's different. this is tactical for us. we understand that after bakhmut, they could go further. they could go to kramatorsk, to sloviansk. it would be an open road for the russians after bakhmut to other towns in ukraine. in the donetsk direction. in the east of ukraine. that's why our guys are standing there. >> as you know, mister president, some of your own ukrainian commanders have actually questioned holding on to bakhmut as their forces are suffering very heavy casualties right now. amid worries that could hurt ukraine's ability to launch a spring offensive, what do you say that those commanders? >> [interpreter] firstly, it's not related to our official position of those commanders. that's where we're having the meetings with the chief of staff when everyone is talking openly about things which are basically close to everyone else.

so we're waiting for the information to come in. more than 20 people are present at this meeting from the intelligence services and the security services. we also have the national guards, commanders, and every single commander. that's why i never heard anything like that for many of those commanders. how can i treat this? it means that someone has his own opinions. but it does look like a fake, created in the russian federation. -- our troops should be retreating. >> how much do you believe, mister president, the battle for bakhmut has actually weakened putin's forces? how many men has he lost in this fight for bakhmut? do you know? >> we know every name who is being lost there. we are treating it very seriously. we lost many less than the russians lost their. they don't care about their

people. they just throw them on their bullets, and we're standing strong. we have a defensive mission there, very much like in different directions. russia is trying to attack. but it's in vain. >> as you know, mister president, a very disturbing video has emerged in recent days appearing to show the execution of a ukrainian prisoners of war by the russians. the soldier has now been identified. he was fighting, as you know, near bakhmut. and i want to warn our viewers right now, will play a little clip, this is graphic. watch this. [speaking non-english] [sound of gunfire] [speaking non-english] >> as last words were glory to ukraine. what goes through your mind,

mister president, watching that truly horrific execution of one of our soldiers? >> [interpreter] this is the show of the russian attitude towards p. o. w.'s. they don't have any laws of war or international law of any convention. it's a question that these people -- they don't respect anything. they don't fight like soldiers. for us, it's a war. for our freedom, for democracy. for our values. for them, it's terrorism.

that's the attitude. and they post these videos -- they just killed a guy who refused to surrender, and he said glory to ukraine. that's what you got. this is the face of the war. this is the face of the russian federation. >> the white house expects russia will aim to go on the offensive, the military offensive, at multiple fronts this spring. what are you preparing for, mister president? do you anticipate russia will attack on multiple fronts in the donbas? or does putin have broader ambitions across ukraine? >> [interpreter] intelligence works every day with our partners intelligence. the u.s., uk, the european union countries. we are constantly exchanging information, and we don't have any secrets from each other. we are all on the same side of information, and we think that in the donbas direction, russia

started its offensive, this is what looks like a slow aggression. because they don't have enough strength and forces. on the other hand, we see the concentration of force by russians. we are ready for this. we're getting ready for this. and we're getting the information from our partners. we understand that we have to be ready for anything. and we have to concentrate strengthen forces, and new weaponry from our partners in order to conduct our counter offensive operation. >> a lot more to come with president zelenskyy. but first, we go to cnn's alex marquardt. he's joining us lowe from kyiv right now. alex, you just came from eastern ukraine when you spent considerable time on the front lines around bakhmut. where does the fight there stand right? >> wolf, it is extraordinarily fierce fighting. and it has been for months now. i was speaking with the senior pentagon official who said it is very impressive that the ukrainians are holding their ground. they're making the russians fight for every inch, where the

ukrainians have to withdraw, they're doing it in a smart way. so ukrainians are holding on, for now. the russians are making a significant push. they've made some gains. now, as you, know wolf, the russian forces have been led by those wagner mercenaries, largely those mercenary contractors and convicts who have died by the thousands. but they've made some gains at trying to encircle the city, particularly lately in the north of the city as they try to cut off the main supply route that ukraine uses to resupply its troops. we've seen wagner forces pushing into the east of the city, quite significantly. we saw wagner forces replacing the ukrainian flag on a tank with their own flag. we saw the head of wagner, prigozhin, and the eastern part of the city. prigozhin also complaining about the lack of support from the russian military. wolf, the ukrainian military has done a very good job at degrading russia's military and

forces there. we've seen wagner having to use some of their more elite forces in this fight, backed up by russian airborne forces. so this is not just the cannon fodder that wagner has been accused of using before. there's been lots of questions, wolf, why president zelenskyy keeps committing to this fight. because many analysts believe it's not very strategic. but what president zelenskyy has shown that ukrainian forces are very much the grading and weakening the russian troops there, so that if they were to take bakhmut, they wouldn't be able to make much progress going further west from there. a lot of analysts and officials disagree with president zelenskyy, that it would be an open road for russia if russia were to take bakhmut. because it's not very easy to move west or north. there would be in a very we can state. and because, wolf, so many men have lost their lives, and that's why it's been going on for so many months, if russia did take bakhmut, it would be a significant symbolic victory

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>> back to our exclusive interview with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. we continue now with this country's ongoing push for the united states to send modern fighter jets to ukraine to help defeat russian forces. to date, president biden has said no. so what does zelenskyy think it will take to get a yes? >> president biden recently said that you don't need these after u.s. fighter jets, at least not right now. did you get an explanation for that when you met face to face recently in kyiv? >> the fighter jets issue is difficult. we're waiting for this decision to be taken, and i'll say the fighter jets supply, it's part of the defense of our infrastructure, energy supplies, and other strategic supplies. because it's part of the air defense, and that's what it is. and we don't have the fighter jets to deal with that. to counteract the russian hits.

and we really need this, and really appeal to the president that they should start training you ukrainian pilots. the president said it would be worked upon. and i believe that the united states will give us the opportunity to defend our skies. this is the thing. the ukraine is helping this, and another of european countries. >> our western fighter jets, u.s. fighter jets, other western fighter jets, mister president, the weapon that will make or break a ukrainian victory? >> yes. we believe so. in this war, there were several pages. there were artillery suppliers, 155 millimeters, then the next page was -- and now, other page, we've got air defense systems for ukraine being sent in order to preserve ukrainian infrastructure and energy supplies. and fighter jets are part of the structure, and as you know, we also had a page on the attacks. and as soon as we started opening this page, the tanks will be supplied to ukraine. >> i just want to clarify, mister president --

did president biden tell you that fighter jets to ukraine are still possible? >> we spoke about fighter jets, and you make your own assumptions. president biden has his position, from his advices, aides, in a military direction, that -- look, ukraine doesn't need at the moment. and jets, according to that, we're not needed. and i said, no, we need those jets, and this is a clear sign -- on the part of our defense to defend infrastructure. because we can't receive 20, 30 air defense systems for ukraine, because it's a long process to receive those systems in ukraine. we don't have that, and we won't get it in one or two years. because this manufacturing is a long process. but what fighter jets could do, they could help us to defend ourselves. that's why we need it urgently. and i explained it to president biden, and i said, let's just start the training mission! and i have the confirmation from the polish and uk side that they would go ahead with the training mission tomorrow.

the coalition of the fighter jets from different countries, they want to have the u.s. decision on this. that's why, as i said, a lot depends on the u.s. here. because we're talking about a training mission, and supply of fighter jets by other countries, same way about the united states decision. that's what i said to president biden. i said, okay, let's work on this issue. so, the ball was in the court of the u.s. president. so we expect -- will be decided soon. >> what was it like, mister president, to have president biden on the ground with you in kyiv for the first time since the war began as those air raid sirens were blaring around you? >> we're not afraid of the sirens, to be honest. we've learned to live with them. we worked with the president -- we went outside, and we had a look -- remembrance of our fallen heroes. and i'm happy that the sirens didn't affect president biden or his team. so, we paid our respect to the fallen heroes despite the

sirens, and really supported me. it was such a cool signal of respect to the president of the united states. we showed that we're not afraid of the sirens. we're not afraid of russia. we want to pay our respects to someone who gave their lives to freedom and democracy all over the world. not just one person who went crazy and tried to scare the world with some missile attack. this visit, as a whole, was very symbolic, and a very motivating one. >> what did it mean to your country, to ukraine, the people in ukraine, to have the president of the united states they're walking on the streets with you? >> it's a calm. immense calm and protection. confidence. the full protection, full calm. none of us will get until the end of the world. because there's nothing nice about war, but the signals and words and the feelings due to the presence of the u.s. president in kyiv -- such a different level. we have this feeling that you're not alone. that america is with you. and other partners, and that shows. that, of course, we will prevail. >> so, the big question right

now. well president biden change course and send fighter jets to ukraine? joining us now, the white house national security spokesman, john kirby. john, thanks so much for joining us. why are ukrainian pilots actually training with a 162nd fighter when if president biden 's answer on f-16s remains no, at least for now? >> this isn't really training. it's an assessment. only a couple of pilots, wolf. they're out there in tucson, arizona, and the main thing

that we're trying to do there is assess their ability to use some of the u.s. weapons systems on their fighter jets. in particular, some precision guided munitions that we're providing them so they can be more precise in their targeting. so we're trying to assess, again, with a small number two, how they can mission plan, and how they can execute the delivery of those kinds of weapons off of their jets.

that's what's going on right now. >> president zelenskyy told me that these fighter jets are make or break for a ukrainia n victory. but the u.s. under secretary of defense, concow, told the house armed services committee last week it would take some 18 months to train ukrainian pilots to fly these f-16s. so, what options does the u. s.

have for bridging that logistical divide? >> but, what we're focused on right now, quite frankly, wolf, is the kind of fighting that we expect the ukrainians are gonna be doing in the weeks and months ahead here as the weather improves. and this is based on their assessment of the fighting -- we're focusing on those four ace. artillery, -- air defense. i saw the interview with you and president zelenskyy, you talked a lot about air defense, in the air defense systems that the ukrainians half -- but using them quite

effectively. it's important to note that in this now year of war, the russians have not achieved anything near or even approaching their superiority over the skies of ukraine. because so many of us, our allies and partners, have helped provide confident and capable air defense capabilities. and the training that goes along with that. >> what is the white house's assessment right now, john, of how long ukrainian forces can actually hold that city of bakhmut? >> well, we obviously want them

to hold it and completely take it back from the wagner and russian military forces that are trying to take it from them. they've been fighting very, very briefly. it is vicious, close, very close combat. both sides have been really slugging it out, and the russians have just poured manpower into this, sometimes ill trained, ill-equipped, mostly convicts, majority convicts, either taken out of prisons to fight over this town of bakhmut -- and it's clear to us that's what's really driving this war is mr. prigozhin. his own agreed. there's a mine in bakhmut, and he's the reason why we think bakhmut has become such a focus for russia right now. that's why they're fighting so hard for it. >> so, what is the administration's assessment -- also, this is related -- of ukraine's ability at some point to retake crimea? >> that's gonna be up to president zelenskyy. and, you know, he needs to determine, a, what he wants to do here, come spring, and where he wants to go, and how many forces he's gonna apply to that effort. we'll certainly provide information advice and that sort of thing, but ultimately, it will be up to president zelenskyy to determine what his goals are and how achievable they might be. >> john kirby, as usual, thanks much for joining us.

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>> our cnn primetime exclusive interview with the president of ukraine continues right now with the biggest question of all, how does this war ever end? as you know the united states have been warning china against providing lethal weapons to russia. have you been briefed, mister president, recently by u. s. officials on where this all stands? do you expect china to take that step? >> translator: i would like to have all the countries support the end of the war. and on the side of all other security directions, which we have lack of, and we are interested to have china on the side of the nuclear safety and security. the u. s. does not have much in

common with china. we understand that, and how the u. s. will be living with china, it is a matter between the u. s. and china. but when the war starts in the european continent which is happening today in ukraine, we have to be interested in limiting this war and ending this war. that is why this factor should unite us. russia is an aggressor. russia should not be on the sovereign ukrainian territory. it should go away, not with force but to retreat itself, to respecting the international law. it shouldn't be occupying the nuclear power plants because it is a threat to the whole of the world. i'm talking about the zaporizhzhia power plant. that is the risk, and other countries should do this,

all of them. despite the geopolitical differences, we have to be interested in peace. from the sovereignty, to the territorial integrity, to the end of this war. >> under what conditions would you be willing to speak directly with vladimir putin? >> translator: i think that today, we don't have any circumstances to talk to the russian president because he doesn't hold his word. we don't have any confidence in him. and he killed thousands of people in order to discuss a diplomatic resolution of the war as a whole, and configuration of this diplomatic decision. not military, but diplomatic

decision. in order to do that, russia should leave our territory. after that, we have to join the diplomatic tools in order to do that. we can find any format with our partners just after that. >> what does the endgame, mister president, look like? how do you define victory in this war? >> translator: we will have victory. i think that victory will end up with the understandable security decisions for many years to come, and i am sure after this war, there will be more understandable situations in the european continent and more stable situations on the european continent, and russia will not be able to threaten any other countries fighting for their freedom and independence. if russia's troops will not leave ukrainian territory, war will be raging in ukraine, in europe, on and

on, that is why at any point, there will be another war which will lead to the third world war, and we totally understand that. number one issue, they have to leave ukraine. they should either be pushed ou t of ukrainian territory, or through negotiations, in agreement with other partners. they have to leave our territory and then only then we can talk about diplomacy. now, we have to say if we will leave it, it will be calm before another storm. >> do you believe, mister president, that ukraine can win this war this year, 2023? >> translator: it all depends on the speed of the supply of material and military support.

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have had to grow up quickly because of this horrific war. how are you and your family doing now, what are you telling your children? >> translator: thank you for your question, thank you for mentioning the children, because it is because of them that we are fighting. my daughter joined the university, and she studies there, and my son is attending school in ukraine. they're both in ukraine, very much like other ukrainian kids, they live with sirens. today, it is a different situation, we got used to it. we want victory. we do not want to get used to war. but we got used to the challenges. everyone wants one thing to end the war. very importantly, with a victory. nobody trusts russia anymore. and probably the next generations will not be

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