out of the sky? >> hypersonic missiles are generally very, very difficult to counter. it wouldn't surprise me that ukrainian air defenses are limited in their ability to go after hypersonic missiles. that said, we have put a lot of effort into the air defense capabilities for ukraine not just the united states, but our allies and partners, and they have done a remarkable job with the various tools and capabilities that they have been getting on air defense from short and medium-range systems. a year into the war and the russians have not achieved anything close to air superiority in the skies over ukraine and that's because the ukrainians have been very, very effective at air defense. >> would it help if they had the patriot missile battery system in this situation? >> the patriot battery system is really designed to go after ballistic missiles. and it's not as effective on

cruise missiles and not going to be effective against drones. so it's doubtful you could say if they had the patriots it would make a huge difference in this particular type of barrage because this was largely cruise missiles and drones. >> any indication they are using iranian missiles yet, john? >> no indications that they have purchased or are using missiles from iran. we suspect, we believe that most of what they are using are those drones. >> i want to get you to respond because we hear from the russian ministry of defense, they say they launched this retaliation strike for an alleged attack in russia. can you respond to is that? >> it's difficult to know. i can't confirm the russian's account of this. we need to take what the russians are saying with a huge grain of salt here in terms of their justification. i mean, these kinds of -- these strikes while they were certainly massive are very much a piece of the kinds of brutalizing tactics that mr. putin has been visiting upon the

ukrainian people for several months now in terms of hitting civilian infrastructure, targeting the kinds of facilities that the krungs need just to subsist. >> president zelenskyy was speaking with wolf last night. he said they want the f-16 fighter jets. they want the ukrainians being trained on them. is it under discussion giving them the f-16s or training ukrainian pilots on how to use them? >> there is no plans to train ukrainian pilots right now on the f-16. as you heard the president say, you know, this is not a topic right now that we are seriously talking about and considering for the ukrainians. we are working with them in lock step every day to try to get them the capabilities that they need for the weeks and months ahead and there are four categories. air defense, armor, artillery and ammunition. and that's what we are focused on providing them. >> but zelenskyy says he thinks the president is wrong when he says they don't need the f-16s. he said we need it urgently and believes they could make or

break the war. >> yeah, look you can't blame president zelenskyy for wanting more advanced capabilities. certainly we see that there is a real air defense need. that's why we are trying to folk on the air defense capabilities, short and medium range that the country clubs could use to knock down some of these missiles. and they were successful in knocking down quite a few last night. >> president zelenskyy said that russia must leave all ukrainian territory before they can talk about diplomacy. is that something the u.s. agrees with, only after the russians are left all ukrainian territory then they can have conversations? >> we believe president zelenskyy gets to determine the conditions under which he would be willing to negotiate with putin. it's his country, his citizens being brutally slaughtered. he gets about to determine if and when he is ready to sit down at the table and what circumstances and what he may be willing to negotiate. we will make sure that he continues to be able to succeed on the battlefield so if and when he is ready to sit down at

the table he can do it from a position of strength. >> john kirby, important developments overnight. thank you for joining us this morning. >> you bet. >> important conversation to start the hour. also this overnight. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell took a fall last night in washington, d.c. the 8 #-year-old senator was attending a dinner when he tripped. he did previously suffer a fall in august of 2019 when he fractured a shoulder. let's go to capitol hill. lauren fox has more. obviously, we are wishing the best for him. hopefully, a speedy recovery. do we know how severe this was? >> reporter: yeah, i mean, right now, poppy, we don't have any more information about the extent of any injuries suffered from that fall. what we have is a statement from his office. his spokesman saying this evening leader mcconnell tripped at a local hotel during a private dinner. he has been admitted to the hospital where he is receiving treatment.

this fall happened, we have confirmed, at the waldorf astoria hotel in washington, d.c. he is 8-1 years old. he is the longer serving republican leader in the history of the u.s. senate and someone that his colleagues look to for advice, someone that leads the conference through battles with democrats as well as bipartisan negotiations, and he is someone that we are going to be keeping a close eye on. but this comes, of course, adds the senate is narrowly divided already and two democrat senators are out receiving treatment for he health issues dianne feinstein and john fetterman of pennsylvania who is at walter reed medical center receiving treatment for clinical depression. so a lot of questions right now about how long mitch mcconnell will be out. we will keep you posted as we get more information. poppy. >> lauren, thank you very much. california brace be for yet another powerful storm this morning known as an atmospheric

river. it could bring with it more devastating flooding. state of emergency declared for 21 more counties in addition to 13 from last week. some san bernardino county residents are still trapped in their homes with dwindling supplies waiting for huge snowbanks to be cleared. to the crowned now. natasha chen is live from sacramento. what are residents being told to prepare but for how long? >> reporter: yeah, don, the california residents here have gotten just storm after storm. the couple of days of break here and we are expecting the rain to really come in later this evening. so officials in many counties have been telling people yesterday and today early this morning if you have got snow on top of your roofs, to try to clear that as best as possible because another storm is coming in. california already reeling from a season of deadly storms is staring down the threat of more extreme weather.

rains are coming. there is nowhere for the rain to go. >> and all i know is the culverts are completely blocked with ice and snow. piled high. >> reporter: more than 100 inches of snow has already fallen in the san bernardino mountains where 12 deaths have been reported since february 25th. according to the county sheriff's department, only one death appears to be officially weather-related from a traffic accident. many survivors are trapped in their homes without food. sheriffs deputies are going door-to-door to deliver boxes of essentials to those who cannot get out. now parkts of the state are preparing for a strong string of storms known as an atmospheric river. >> i am afraid of the wind mostly. the wind causes trees to just snap. >> reporter: the weather preit diction center says heavy torrential rain and all that melting snow could cause major flooding. more than 17 million people across central and northern california including the san

francisco bay area and parts of nevada are under flood watches ahead of today's storm. >> saturated ground from the weather the last two months. when you add in strong winds, those will take down trees. the trees will take down wires. that leads to power outages. >> reporter: some people in monterey county were told by emergency services to have two weeks of essentials stocked up ahead of the storm. in places like santa cruz county emergency services are telling residents to get ready for any evacuation orders as rivers and creeks are expected to overflow. >> if there is an evacuation warning we will take the cats and go to a friend's house. >> reporter: the north tahoe area has seen an increase in emergency calls for gas leaks and carbon monoxide following recent storms delivering heavy snow. officials say this freeze and thaw cycle with the weight of the heavy snowpack is causing

stress on tanks and plumbing, causing dangerous leaks and with the rain coming in that snow could melt on top of structures causing potential collapses in the next few days. don. >> natasha, thank you. okay. we have covered a lot of interesting survival stories on this show, but the next one is really something remarkable. picture this. you are trapped in your car on a snowy road, middle of nowhere. your phone doesn't have any service. there is no way for you to call for help. that is what happened to a man in oregon in january. this is the road that he was stuck on in the willamette national forest. the sheriff's office says the man came up with a very clever way to save himself. it turns out he had a drone in his car, so he died his phone to it as you can see here with some blue string and this is a re-enactment provided by the sheriff's office. but we have cnn's drone operator live in studio. what does that look like? you can see the phone is attached to the drone.

according to the sheriff's office this man in oregon hit send on text that had his location on it to a friend and flew the drone high in the sky and the phone received service and the text for help actually went through. that friend, a very good friend. >> contacted the authorities and they sent a roescue team to sav him. all because of a drone and a phone. i mean, that's pretty smart. i love this story. everything worked out right for him. he had a drone. he had a good friend. they found him. >> i am waiting to see this on the next episode of macgyver. >> i know, i'm bringing him with me if i go driving through the forest. >> this is the drone camera? oh, that could be dangerous. that could be dangerous. i think it's a little dangerous. >> they were texting this in the last block. look what it does. they are all concerned it was going to fall on us. >> truly incredible. such a smart thing to do.

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delivering the first piece of social legislation promised during the campaign, president clinton signed into law the family and medical leave act. mr. clinton used the ceremony to say that legislative gridlock came to an end. >> now that we have won in difficult battle let me ask all of you to think about what we must do ahead to put the public interest ahead of special interest. >> right? what must we do ahead? that was wolf blitzer reporting back in 1993 as then-president bill clinton signed the family and medical leave act into law. for 30 years it guaranteed certain employees up to 12 weeks of leave for the birth of a child or serious illness. it is clear it doesn't go far enough for almost every family because it doesn't mean you get paid. a doctor wrote this this week. while groundbreaking 30 years ago, fmla leaves out millions of private sector employees. it doesn't provide pay during leave, leaving employees with a

job to come back to but no paycheck. a bipartisan group of lawmakers think that they finally do though have a path forward to make this a reality. the leaders of that group are in the house, stephanie bice, republican from oklahoma and member of the appropriation and budget committees, and chrissy houlahan, democrat from pennsylvania, member of the armed services and intelligence committees. they wrote to reach the potential paid leave policy must be durable, must be bipartisan, which is why our focus on finding consensus will be unwavering a policy that depends on party and power is in constant jeopardy and hardly a policy at all. we can and must do better. they join me now. good morning and thank you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> you are both mothers of daughters and you share a hallway and you're working together on this, but it never seems to be enough, right? can you -- let me just begin with you, representative buys, and what brought you together on

this. >> you know, we got to know each other last congress ever i was elected and we just kind of bonded, as you mentioned. we both have daughters and really this started when we ran legislation to allow for armed servicemen and women to be able to take family leave. and we felt like this is something that every family should have the opportunity to partake in. so that really began this journey of us looking to find a way to get paid family leave across the finish line finally. >> it's extraordinary that only one in four working americans right now even has access to paid leave. it's something everyone should have. it should not be a privilege in in country. what i think is interesting, representative houlihan, you said there is a lack of focus on the family. those are your words. one of the reasons you lefd the armed services was in part because of the lack of this. why do you think this country puts such a lack of value on

caregiving. >> i can't answer that question. it's confounding. we are a country that cares about our families and children but we haven't put our money where our mouth is historically. as you mentioned, fmla is 30 years old. my daughter, my oldest is 30 years old. it's been decades and decades of us saying that we will work for the family and not, as you said, you know, kind of making it happen. you said one in four. 75% of american families don't have access to paid leave and that puts us in the bottom of developed nations in terms of what we do to provide help for our families. you brought up importantly childcare as well. these are inextricably bound to one another, too. we need to work on paid family leave and make sure that we are rounding it out with the other critical care issues. >> representative bice, you in the private sector 20 years ago actually got this paid leave which was rather unheard of than certainly not the norm. i wonder if you would have left your job at the time without it?

>> likely i would have. i would have exited the work force for some time. the company i worked for provided short-term disability option that allowed me to take eight weeks off, and additionally vacation time afterwards. and so as you mentioned, it was highly unusual back then. right now 65% of working parents, sorry, of parents are working, both parents working in a household. so making sure that we're allowing the opportunity for them to stay home with newborn children or adopted children is really critical. as republicans we talk about making sure we are supporting the family. this is a way we can do that. >> the philosophical divide between the parties is how do you pay for it. that has been impassable, something you have not been able to figure out. "the washington post" notes of the plan that there is no firm goal and there is a reluctance to talk about specifics. representative houlahan, what is the specific goal and are you

two -- do you grow how to p-- agree how to pay for it? >> the goal is to have open eyes, open ears, open mind to sort of hit reset on how we think about this and not think r&d and to really importantly advance paid leave for more people. whether or not we are going to solve for the rest of the 75% of the universe that doesn't have paid leave right now remains to be seen. this is early days. we are a month and a half into this and we are making sure that we level set our expectations and that we level set our information so that we can actually work together collaboratively. as importantly, we are working with the senate as well because as you probably remember with your schoolhouse rock, nothing happens with one side of the capitol. and so we need to make sure that we are also working collaboratively with both sides of the aisle over there. >> and you have senators who are onboard in terms of, you know, supporting this. republican senator bill cassidy. but representative bice, i want to press on the paying for it

issue because as great as this sounds, it goes nowhere if you can't figure out how to pay for it. are the two of you on the same page on -- do you raise taxes to pay for it? what do do you to pay for it? >> i think we have to examine all of the options. a lot of proposals have been put out there by republicans and democrats, house and senate. our goal is to really take a step back, look at all of the things that have been put on the table and sort of figure out how can we tweak these to be more effective. the tax and jobs cuts act of 2017 had a provision in it that allowed for companies to get a tax credit if they offered paid family leave to their employees. we want to look at is that effective, how many people are taking advantage of that, what is the outcome. so we will really look, deep dive into all of these options and figure out how do we pay for it. look, as a republican, it would be very difficult for me to say i would be, you know, supportive of some sort of paid leave

program that was a government program. i can't do that. we can't afford it. but there are things that we can do involving the government and private sector that can actually move this issue forward. >> we all hope that you guys can come to an agreement. thanks for the time very much this morning and good luck. >> thank you. >> don. excessive force. aggressive style of policing and unreasonable tactics. more on the justice department's report on the louisville police department and how the city is responding. the police chief and mayor of louisville join us live next. what if f we live to like 100? that's 35 years of being retired. i don't want to outlive our money. and i have been eatingng all these stupid chia seeds! i cocould totally live to be 100! why do i keep taking such good carere of my- since we started working with empower, we're able to get all our financial questions answered, so we don't have to worry. so you never- no. never. join 17 million people and take control of your financial future to empower what's next. start today at empower.com

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coming up in minutes, we are talking to senator joe manchin. first, this morning we are getting a blistering report on the police department in louisville, kentucky. >> this conduct is unacceptable. it is heartbreaking. it erodes the community trust necessary for effective policing and it is an affront to the vast majority of officers who put their lives on the line every

day to serve louisville with honor. >> so the department of justice detailing how officers routinely used excessive force. discriminated against minorities and violated their constitutional rights. the 90-page report a culmination of an investigation launched after the botched raid that killed breonna taylor in march of 2020. according to the report, the doj investigators found for years lmpd has practiced an aggressive style of policing that it deploys selectively, especially against black people p but also against vulnerable people throughout the city. some officers have videotaped themselves throwing drinks at pedestrians from their cars, insulted people with disabilities and called black people monkeys, animal and boy. here is how breonna taylor's mom is reacting. >> i don't even know what to think, to know that this thing should never happened. and that took years for anybody

else to say that it shouldn't happen. it's heartbreaking to know that everything you been saying from day one has to be said again through this manner, you know? that it took this to even have somebody look into this department. >> so the investigation which culminated in this report is focused on incidents from 2016 to the end of 2021 which was under the city's previous administration and police chief. joining us now to discuss the doj findings is mayor of louisville craig greenberg and the interim police chief jacquelyn gwinn-villaroel. thank you both for joining us. really appreciate it. chief, i am going to start with you because you were sworn in the beginning of the year along with -- i should say mayor. you were sworn in. you inherited this situation. so, chief, should your citizens have any reason now to trust this police department? >> well, first of all, good morning.

the report is very troubling and there is actions in those, in the report, that we must address and we will address. but i want to speak to the community and just reassure them that we are going to do everything we possibly can to rebuild the trust that is needed. the citizens of louisville are wonderful people, but we have to be intentional as how we engage the community and ensure that we are here to protect and serve them. they deserve that. and so every day we are building upon the relationships that we have built, but we need to strengthen them. as the leader, it starts with me to model that and for my command staff to also demonstrate that so the troops can actually implement that throughout the city. >> same question you to, mayor. why should people trust this police department? >> well, the chief and i knew when we assumed our offices two

months ago, we knew this report was underway. we didn't know what the findings would be. we took our offices ready to embrace reform, ready to embrace improvement because we both believe that while this report is infuriating, it's difficult to read about these painful incidents, we need -- it was an important day. we needed to address what's happened in the past so that we can move forward into the future with progress, with reform, with improvement of our police department, of our city government, really with the entire community. and we are both committed to embracing reform and improvement, to work collaboratively with the united states department of justice, collaboratively with the entire city of louisville so that we can have a police department that is the model for all across america. one that everyone trusts regardless of who they are. that is what we're striving for. >> mayor, your comments yesterday, you said many of these people in your community,

quote, spoke out and they felt dismissed or devalued. we just played for you what breonna taylor's mom said, but there were and are so many people in louisville who were dismissed. one woman told doj in this investigation that she had told the police over and over again about this detective who was extorting sex from her daughter and they didn't believe her. and it turns out he was. and it turns out five years later after potentially other victims that this was actually addressed. will people be believed now? >> i certainly hope so. to those whose voices were not heard over the past several years, over the past decades, yesterday was an important day. the united states department of justice essentially said, yes, we have heard you, we heard your complaints and you were right. and as painful as that is as a

city, we have to acknowledge that. and that's the only way that we can heal the wounds that still exist in our city and that's the only way that we can work to come together better than we have to move forward. and so it's certainly a painful report, but an important report. >> after george floyd, after breonna taylor, after ahmaud arbery and other incidents around the country in 2020, the country really has been paying attention to what is happening with police departments. this was after -- i wrote in my book after all these incidents, the ideology but we deploy police in major cities is tantalizing to taking care of a melanoma with a blowtorch. how much more slowly could we have gone? when you think about that, you were saying this is a 36 --

there are 36 ways they are saying that there should be improvements in the department. are you going to act quickly? are you taking your time? when are you going to implement these, chief? >> we are already acting. and we are already in the process of reform. the recommendations in the report is highlighting some of the things we already have pushed forward with having our accountability improvement burro bureau which encompasses our wellness. we want our officers to be whole, mentally, financially, spiritually well. we are underway with that. we want to make sure that we are hearing the community and by providing them an outlet for them to be able to come and speak with us directly. we are doing just that. so in the report you also see that the report did state that we are already making those improvements, and so, yes, we are not waiting.

we are not stopping. we are moving aggressively ahead. let me say this. whether the doj was here or not, we should be a premier department. we should be a department that the citizens of louisville can be proud of. guess what? for us internally to be proud of our serves. so, no, we are not waiting. we are moving forward. >> the department of justice said the vast majority of our officers are good and honorable people who are in their public service roles for the right reasons that are doing their job, working to keep everybody safe. we are building on that with that team. and our focus on training, the chief has a background in police training and we are really focused on improving our training immediately. it's going to take months to get the consent decree in place with the department of justice. we are not waiting. >> i think that's really important, right, to do it now. thank you both. good luck. chief and mayor, appreciate your time. >> hope other police departments

around the country are following. >> absolutely. kaitlin. >> really important. also just a few hours from now we will see president biden unveil his budget proposal. what's in it, what's getting cut, what lawmakers will and won't agree to. we will ask one of them. democratic senator joe manchin is here. he joins us next.

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in hours from now president biden is going to release his budget proposal for the fiscal year 2024. the white house says that proposal would actually reduce the deficit by $3 trillion over the next ten years with tax reforms aimed at the wealthy and large corporations. no surprises there. cuts to spending on special interests like big oil, big pharma. quoting the white house there. this has no chance of getting passed, no traction it's going to gain in congress, but it is a statement of priorities as capitol hill is gearing up for a pending showdown over the debt ceiling. to talk about that is democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia who serves on the appropriations armed services and energy and natural resources committees. very busy. senator, i know we have a lot to talk about.

i want to start with senator mcconnell who fell and is hospitalized overnight. do you know anything about how he is doing? >> i haven't heard anything. my prayers are with him for a speedy recovery. i hope it's not serious. and as we know, mitchell is a war horse. he will be, hopefully, back in the saddle again and going back. we hope to see him back quickly. i hope it's not serious. >> we are hoping for a speedy recovery as well. we will track that. on president biden today releasing this bluj blueprint we are told by the administration is going to have proposed cutting the budget deficit by $3 trillion over the next decade. from what you have seen so far do you think it goes far enough? >> i haven't seen -- i haven't seen in detail yet. i heard tidbits of it. so we will be getting more briefed today as it comes out, and my staff will break it down. what we have to understand, since 2013 we added 17 to $18 trillion of new debt.

some attributable to covid. but shouldn't we be looking at how can he accumulate so much debt so quickly? both sides are to blame. if democrats want to blame republicans, republicans want to blame democrats, this an american problem we have to fix. and the blame game is not going to fix it. i can't tell you 3 trillion is enough, anywhere close we need to be. we have accumulated over 17 to 18 trillion from 13 trillion to 31.5 trillion as we speak. that breaks down to $94,000 per person in america. for every person in america, children, everybody, that's $94,000. the interest this year, kaitlin, is $600 billion. if we do nothing, which i'm happy to see that the president is changing the trajectory, if we do nothing that's $130 trillion by 2015. $130 trillion of debt. $5 trillion towards interest. that is nonattainable. we would not be a superpower of the world. we have to get our financial

house in order, period. it's going to be tough. >> do you want to see democrats hold firm to their stance on the clean debt ceiling hike with no, you know, nothing tied to that? or do you think they should compromise with republicans here who are saying that there should be some spending cuts in addition to that? >> here everyone's talking about spending cuts. can we just see if we can go back to normal? where were we before covid? what was the trajectory before that? how much new debt did we accumulate during covid because of the sup u subsidies and is it possible to get back to normal before you start cutting the bejesus and scaring people to death. that gets people all upset. but for democrats just vote for it clean. that's not going to happen. that's not recommend. we should be talking about doing a death crisis and debt ceiling. how do we fix it? by basically being more disciplined. we are not there. they are not even getting a budget. the president's budget is a about a month late. it's about a month late.

the house and senate supposed to have a budget before us on april the 1st and have reconciliation by april 15th. and then by september 30th we are supposed to have a complete budget done. if we do that, that saves billions of dollars. if we just do our jobs. so there are so many things that we can do and be discipline and do our jobs the same as all americans. >> you are saying that a clean debt ceiling hike is not gonna happen, is that right? >> no, no. i am going to vote for clean, basically we are paying for the sins of the past. i am not going to hold it hostage, say i am not going to vote unless you do this. but to say we can't sit down and have an agreement, have an agreement that we are going to look at these different types of thins and not touch those medicare, we are protecting that for the people that basically depend on it for their lifeline. we will look at everything that we possibly can. how come we increased $3.5 trillion of spending in 2013?

how did it get to 6.2 trillion? how did that happen, okay? discount the covid. how did that happen? and how come we have so much in what we call nondiscretionary funding? that means we can't talk about it. that means it's put over there. you are just going to have to continue to fund that. how did it grow so quickly? how do we have so many things that are so necessary that weren't before? those types of things. we should have that conversation and we should have an agreement to basically come back in 60 days or 90 days and have things on the table. then you can vote. don't hold it hostage. >> on that front, and you talk about the president being late in releasing his budget blueprint, we don't know when republicans are going to release theirs. they have not said what exactly they are going to cut. is it possible for them to reduce the deficit if they don't touch social security, don't raise taxes and don't touch medicare? >> well, you are looking at a long trajectory there. you have to look at everything that has happened. are we running those programs as

efficiently as we can. we make sure that the people that work that paid into it, that are receiving are going to continue to. in my state about 60%, i am sure in alabama it's about the same, a high percentage of retirees, that's all they have. we are going to protect that. that has been there for about 100 years. all of a sudden saying that's the bugaboo, that's killing us all. we know it's expensive. there is a commitment to have to people to age with dignity and we are going to protect that. there is an awful lot of abuse and waste that goes on throughout the entire system. again, that's not the 4.9 trillion. everyone thinks that's everything. if you don't do that, you do nothing. that's not true. that is just not true. >> senator manchin, over the last week you announced on capitol hill your opposition to three of the president's nom knees, including the person to run the irs. you sharply criticized the iron tier your department for delaying a plan for leases for offshore oil and gas. you had said you are going to vote with the republicans to rescind that epa water rule. we saw the vote on the d.c.

crime bill. what is your relationship with the white house like right now? >> they know exactly where i'm coming from. i said don't give me anybody that's a true advocate or pretty far left and i would say the same, pretty far right, whoever the administration is. give me people grounded, more centrist, if you will. if you give me an advocate, they will be advocating for their position. you can't get good results for official, you know, problem-solving areas and oversights whether it be fcc or whatever. i have been very clear about that. as far as the gentleman from the irs, most qualified, he will do a good job. that was a message i'm sending because the president and his administration has not, they are not ad hearing to the inflation reduction act. they have touted that as an environmental bill and i can assure you we put that together

and negotiated after we put it together, no one knew me and my staff were working on it, it was for energy security. when you saw putin wdo what he did with energy and you know what is happening to our friends in the eu and europe and all over and basically not being able to produce the energy we have under our feet in our great country and we are asking other countries such as iran and venezuela, the greatest terrorist supporter in the world, iran, you want them to have more none to create more havoc to humankind? i was appalled. i said we have to be more secure in our country so we can help our allies if they start looking elsewhere for energy. everything they are rolling out is relaxing and i have just said you are trying to basically reconfigure a piece of legislation that we passed, that we passed in the congress, to something that you want and wasn't in that legislation. so i'm holding their feet to the fire there. i will continue to send every message i can, please, adapt and enforce the legislation for

energy security. >> you are certainly sending messages. when you were recently asked if you are still a democrat, you consider yourself a democrat, you said i am an american. that raised a lot of eyebrows. >> let me be very clear. everyone knows i am not a washington democrat. that's for sure. and the old southern democrats where i come from and my grandparents and all that, they are responsible, accountable, worked hard, helped people, expected people to get up off their rear end and work and contribute to this great country. i have a lot of great friends who aren't washington republicans either. the system in the political system in america is broke. it truly is. in washington, we are not giving you a choice to -- that makes sense. we should be doing something like that. we are pushing you to the extreme left or right. you might not like either position that you are pushed to, but you have no other options. i want that sensible, reasonable, responsible middle to have a voice. i am going to be speaking as loudly as i can. >> given that, you were asked if you would endorse biden for his

re-election run he is expected to announce. you declined do so. do you think he should be challenged for the 2024 nomination? >> i am not going to be involved in any decisions. definitely my own decisions as far as politics or political posturing, my political future may be until the end of the year. when you have a border crisis that we have, when you have an energy crisis that we will have if we don't become energy secure, you have high inflation, all the things you just identified and you all do so, i think so aptly, and so accurately on your network, when you are identifying all of those and we're worried about the next election, only in america does the next cycle start the day after the last cycle. this is crazy. let's do our job at least for another year. we have another year after that. >> that's fair. but you know that answer is going to make some people think that you are thinking about getting it that the presidential race. >> hold on. i have said this and i will repeat this one more time, kaitlin. i am not making any decisions

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