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hazardous conditions as members of both parties call for more safety regulations. shaw admitted that the company's current systems are lacking. >> it is clear the safety mechanisms in place were not enough. the events of the last month are not who we are as a company. >> so shaw's company is now responsible for not one but two high-profile train derailments in ohio in just a matter of weeks. according to one senator on the committee, 20 derailments involving a chemical spill over the past eight years. this week, the ntsb launched an investigation into norfolk southern's safety practices. cnn's sunlen is on the scene. you're here in washington. i mean, these senators in this hearing today, they did not go easy on shaw. >> reporter: they certainly did not, kristin. you could sense their
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frustration as they were asking some very sharp questions of the ceo, andy shaw, of norfolk southern, and they went right after him about the accountability, trying to hold his feet to the fire at how they will show up for the residents there, and how they will make this better for their lives that, no doubt, will be made harder going forward. i want to highlight this one exchange that happened in the last hour with senator markey on the committee. he was going after shaw, asking specifically if they plan to compensate the homeowners who have diminished property value in the area of the derailment. here's that back and forth. happened just a moment ago. >> when you say do the right thing, will you compensate these families for their diminished lost property value, the homes and small businesses? >> senator, we've already committed $21 million, and that's a down payment. >> that is a down payment.
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will you commit to ensuring that these families, these innocent families do not lose their life savings in their homes and small businesses? the right thing to do is to say, "yes, we will." >> senator, i'm committed to doing what's right for the community. >> so no sepecific commitments from the ceo, and that really set off senator markey, who after that said, i suspect once the cameras are off of this moment and that area, that these residents are going to find themselves in the crosshairs of the accountants of norfolk southern. pointed words from markey. we heard the ceo apologize, admitting that mistakes were made, but specifically the senators on this panel today wanted to hear specific commitments that they feel he did not go far enough in making today during the panel. >> i imagine the soundbite that
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you just played, sunlen, is going to really impact and be of great interest to the people, the residents, the small business owners in east palestine. jason, do you know if residents in east palestine are closely following today's testimony? >> reporter: some of them are. i have to say, look, i'm sure as you know, kristin, getting the trust of the people here in east palestine is a tall order. still, a lot of unanswered questions that they have about the long-term specifics about who is going to be monitoring health, who is going to be taking care of the economics here in town. one of the nearby residents, cathy reese, who we spoke to, she lives nearby, leslie run runs behind her home. in the days following the derailment, there were dead fish in the run. as you can imagine, she's got a lot of questions. she felt as though alan shaw was light on specifics. >> well, i don't think he has
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really ever answered me questions. he keeps saying, "i'm committed, i'm ecommitted. "even with yes or no, he say, "i'm committed." it's never yes or no, so i think he's full of it. >> reporter: there you have it right there, kristin. i mean, you did hear alan shaw say that, again, he had a personal commitment to making east palestine whole, making it thrive. but folks like cathy reese want to know, what does that mean speci specifically? they were looking for specifics in terms of what they plan to do to help these people economically years from now, whether that's putting a dollar amount on that, and what are they specifically going to do in terms of monitoring people here in terms of their held and the environment? again, some folks feeling that alan shaw was just a bit light on specifics. kristin. >> yeah. once again, he said on capitol hill moments ago, "i'm just not committed."
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he committed to the $21 million down payment but would not say yes or no, if he was committed to those -- to compensate specific amounts for the lost property value. jason carroll, sunlen serfaty, thank you, both, so much. from trains to planes and another fight on board, this time on a southwest airlines flight. watch this. >> [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> get off. >> stop it! [ bleep ]. >> so this brawl broke out as people were boarding the plane in dallas. other passengers, you can see they kind of jumped in to try to break it up. cnn's ed lavandera is live in dallas for us. ed, you know, if it's not a near collision on a runway these days, it's a fight between passengers. any idea how this one started? >> reporter: well, it escalated quickly. if you listen to the man there in the video who was throwing punches, eluded to the fact that he felt that the man that he was punching had acted aggressively
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toward his family. we also heard from one witness on the plane who believed that the man who was sitting in his seat had perhaps bumped into the punching man's family. that's how it started. clearly escalated very quickly. we're told the video actually started after the man throwing punching had already landed three or four different strikes on the man. obviously, you see passengers there in the plane trying to help the crew get the situation under control and get the men separated. we are told that both men left the plane. dallas police officials say that criminal charges were not filed against anyone in this particular situation. southwest airlines says they commend the actions of their crew for handling the situation safely and that the monday flight did continue as scheduled. it was going to dallas love field to phoenix, arizona. clearly, as spring break season continues to heighten here in the weeks ahead, really highlights as flights are full,
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tensions are also high, kristin. >> yeah, seems there's always something going on with the airlines these days. ed lavandera in dallas, thank you so much. also in texas, cnn has learned the bodies of two americans kidnapped and killed in mexico will be returned to the u.s. today. the remains of woodard and brown will be transported to a funeral home in brownsville, texas. aautopsies will be conducted. the two friends who survived are recovering. today, hundreds of soldiers were dispatched to matmatamoros wher the incident happened on friday. the victims are from south carolina. with us, chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. carlos, let's start with you in south carolina and the two survivors. how are they doing? what's their condition? >> reporter: well, kristin, good
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afternoon. we know that the one american that was not hurt in this kidnapping was latavia washington mcgee. she is doing just fine. according to her mother, she could be back here in south carolina as early as today. the family had had some hope she might be able to make it back to south carolina yesterday. however, that was not the case. as for eric williams, the other person that survived this kidnapping, he is recovering in a hospital in texas where he was shot several times. now, the bodies, as you mentioned, of the two other americans that died in here, zindell brown and shaeed woodard, as you noted, they're expected to be brought back to the u.s., to texas at some point today. we're told that another autopsy will take place and then, presumably, the bodies will be released to the families. all four of them were from the south carolina area. kristin. >> such a sad time for those families in south carolina. john, let's bring you in here. mexican authorities are saying
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one person has been detained for undertaking, quote, surveillance functions of the victims. can you interpret that for us? i moean, the ambush happened les than three hours since they crossed over to matamoros. that's not a lot of time. >> no, but they were held for a number of days. that individual whose name is jose n., as mexican authorities have identified him, basically is inexpendable in this model. he was the person assigned to guard them while they were being held in the wooden shack before mexican authorities rescued them. his job was just to make sure they didn't get away. obviously, he's someone that has been questioned in this, but in the scope of the gulf cartel, given that he was placed alone on guard duty, he would be pretty low level. >> so based on cnn's reporting, it appears that mexico has started cracking down on security in that border town. do you think that's actually going to change anything there
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on the ground, or is it, you know, just optics? >> well, it may be both. i mean, it's more likely to be temporary, but the mexican government has to do something to demonstrate they are taking a stand and that they have some control of that territory, which most people will tell you and believe that that territory in matamoros is controlled essentially by the cartels and its armies of armed people. so i think what you're seeing by flooding that area with soldiers, by gaining control, two things may be going on. one, they may be looking for people and trying to make arrests to bring this further towards some kind of close for the mexican government. also, asserting themselves in the area so tourists who have been told by the u.s. state department, don't go there, it's too dangerous, will be assured, well, there's a security presence now and it's still okay to go for these medical procedures and other reasons.
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>> still seems a bit risky. do you think that -- what should happen next here? you know, some lawmakers here in the u.s. say that the u.s. needs new tools to help stop this violence near the border. mexico's president doesn't like that idea. what do you think the solution is here? i mean, is there one? >> i mean, there have been solutions. there have been times when the u.s. government and the intelligence community and the mexicans have worked successfully to do damage and create setbacks for cartels. the best example we have historically is the work we did with colombia, which took years and cost thousands of lives, mostly columbian lives. as we've seen in mexico, the cartels killed hundreds, yes, thousands of people, mostly mexicans, and this is only a flash point. because we see four americans, who of whom died, caught up in that net, and a mexican woman
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who was on her way to pick up her children from school who was killed in the cross-fire that same incident. if you ask the mexican government, we're the problem. if there weren't millions of americans buying fentanyl and other drugs, the cartels wouldn't exist. we're the market. we need to cure our need for drugs. if you ask the americans, the mechan mexicans have let vast criminal organizations get far too powerful for far too long. in some measure, we're talking past each other. we have seen in the columbian example, if we work together close enough for long enough, there can be real progress. we're not seeing that yet. >> john, what do you think is the likelihood that some of the other suspects in these killings will be apprehended? >> i think that the likelihood is getting higher and that you're seeing an influx of not just police authorities but
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military authorities into the area. that is usually a sign or a signal that the mexican enforcement arms are getting ready to make a move. but the question is what are we going to get? are you going to get the boss of the gulf cartel? that's a possibility. or are you going to have the cartel turn over, either dead or alive, the people we've seen on that video tape involved in the shooting as further expendables and say, "you can have these, and let's bring this to a close." that's something that we'll have to be watching very carefully today and tomorrow, to see how that develops. >> all right. john miller, thank you so much for your expertise. carlos suarez in south carolina for us. thank you, both, so much. russia just unleashed its most intense strike on ukraine, striking the country with 80 missiles, including hypersonics that ukraine says it has no way to stop. we'll go there live next. plus, new trouble for tiger woods. his ex-girlfriend claims that
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behind me. this city is in complete darkness and has been ever since those strikes overnight. people, because of those infrastructure strikes, without heating, electricity, water. this is part of that war of attrition that is really desdesign ed to make the lives of people across the country as uncomfortable as possible. you never know exactly when they're going to come, and you don't know how long the damage is going to affect you. now, there have been several people killed across the country as a result of the strikes. it'd been about a month, kristin, since we had any of the major, nationwide strikes. it isn't simply the missile strikes, the drone strikes we've had overnight. some of them, many intercepted, but a lot getting through. we've also seen an uptick in activity along the front line. not just around the city of bakhmut but some of the other flash points along the front line, places further to the north. we are also seeing an uptick of activity along the northern border. where i'm speaking to you from,
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ukrainian authorities warning they're seeing a lot of activity along the russian border and will be seen over the course of the attacks have been in kharkiv. we're looking at another difficult night. we heard the nationwide iron but a local one moments ago. the fear is this may carry on now that the russian equipment is in place, to cause that kind of damage that we saw last night. what moscow says is that this is revenge for what it describes as terrorist activities over the course of the last few days across their border. remember, they accused a ukrainian national of being responsible for firing on civilians and what ukrainian authorities say is the only terrorist activities is what goes on in ukraine day in and day out. >> you're right. you can see the impact of the strikes in the background behind you. no lights except those cars.
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melissa bell, thank you so much. let's bring in former nato supreme allied commander general wesley clark. you just heard melissa bell's report. so many missiles fired overnight. ukraine's military says that russia is firing types of missiles that they haven't seen before. even a hypersonic rocket that they can't defend against. how much did those types of rockets change the game on the ground? >> well, they don't change the immediate game on the battlefield. these are directed against infrastructure, and the infrastructure can be rebuilt. it's a question of how int intentional the strikes are, how often they're conducted. it's been about a month since last big strikes by the russians on infrastructure. ukrainians got their electricity system back and operational before this latest set of strikes. it's a long-term problem. we have got to find a way to
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secure ukraine. however this war ends, ukraine can't be left under attack by russian missiles. so i know we're trying to push air defense there. we don't have it there yet. some of the missiles probably wouldn't be intercepted even by our technology, so we've got some real challenges ahead to help ukrainians protect their own people, kristin. >> general clark, thank you so much. i'm going to have to leave it right there because we have just a little bit of breaking news happening now on capitol hill regarding mitch mcconnell, who was injured when he had some kind of incident in a d.c. hotel last night. cnn's manu raju is on capitol hill, i believe, to give us this update. what can you tell us? how is he doing? >> reporter: yeah, we're learning for the first time what senator mcconnell's injury was when he indeed fell last night at a washington hotel, was taken to the hospital, was admitted overnight to a washington area hospital. in a statement from his office, it says he is being treated for
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a concussion. he is expected to remain in the hospital for a few days. i'll read you the statement from his spokesperson, david pop, in full. leader mcconnell tripped at a dinner event wednesday evening and has been admitted to the hospital and is being treated for a concussion. he is expected to remain in the hospital for a few days of observation and treatment. the leader is grateful to the medical professionals for their care, and to heez cois colleagu warm wishes. a lot of people were concerned about his condition, had reached out to the leader and hadn't heard directly back from him. he was at an event last night for the super pac leadership fund. he goes to events when he is in town at washington. one was last night at the waldorf hotel, not far from the white house. he made remarks, thanked supporters. during the event and towards the end of the event, it appears, he tripped and he fell. at that point, about 9:17 p.m. to be precise, emergency
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personnel from washington were dispatched to the hotel to take him to the hospital. that's where he has been treated overnight. the news here is that mitch mcconnell is being treated for a concussion, so it sounds like he had some sort of head injury when he fell last night. he will remain in the hospital for some time. it does not precisely say when he'll return to the senate, but the statement says it'll be a few day of observation, after the senate republican leader, the longest serving senate leader of any party in history, 81 years old, has been treated for a concussion. he's expected to be there for a few days, and we'll see when he is able to return to the senate. >> i mean, any time you're 81 years old and you trip and fall and hit your head, it's a serious thing. we're obviously very glad to hear that it's a concussion and that he is expected to be okay. manu raju, thank you so much. so a bad break-up or something more?
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this as the ceo of the embattled rail company is on capitol hill testifying about the cleanup of the toxic train crash in east palestine, ohio, just a few weeks ago. well, new trouble for golf superstar tiger woods. his ex-girlfriend has filed two lawsuits after two appears to be a messy end to their six-year relationship. er erica herman is seeking at least $30 million. she claims that getting kicked out of woods'agreement. she's suing to get out of a non-disclosure agreement she signed at the beginning of their relationship. j jean,e herman is alleging she ws tricked into leaving the house on what she thought was a vacation and then was locked out of the house. what more can you tell us? >> legal documents say, you're right, they were in a six-year relationship and that it ended
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in october. shortly after that, she filed her first lawsuit, which was actually against the trust because it's the trust that holds and has -- owns the land, the home that she lived in with tiger woods. she's alleging that after they broke up, she had a right to stay living there, that there was an oral agreement for her to live there, a tenancy agreement, oral based, however, not in writing, she's alleging, and she was made to leave the house. because of that, she is asking for actual damages in the amount in excess of $30 million. now, she goes into an example, that she was still living in the house and she got a call from the trustees, the representatives of the trust. they told her, "back your bags. you have to take a short vacation." she did. she went to the airport. that's when sthey said, "you're locked out of the home. you are no longer welcomed in the home. because of this, we can make arrangements for you.
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there were lawyers there. she didn't have her lawyers there. we don't know the other side to all this because the defense, the tiger woods is saying this needs to be in arbitration. let's show everyone something that she's alleging here. very, very serious language. the defendant elected to engage in prohibited practices, self-help, causing severe emotional damage to the plaintiff. the prohibited packages were done intentionally with premedication and malice aforethought, language you usually hear in a criminal case. she also says, kristin, that after she was out of the home, that they took all of her belongings out of the home. they also misappropriated $40 million in cash that she had there. now, tiger woods is saying there was no oral agreement. you were invited into the home during the relationship. you were not invited any longer when that relationship ended. furthermore, there's a non-disclosure agreement, and
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all of this should be done with confide confidentiality. >> well, the non-disclosure agreement, she's also trying to get that nullified right now, as well, right? >> it's very interesting. she has just filed a brand-new lawsuit saying this non-disclosure agreement should be void and nullified. she bases it on, without any explanation, the sectxual assau and sexual harassment act of 2021 and the federal speakout a act. this is ironic. in the october case, she has to check a box, whether she was alleged sexual abuse. the checkmark said "no." so this is a come plete turnaround. tiger woods' people, according to legal documents, are saying there's a lot of legal maneuvering here and game playing. >> one more thing before we go, jean. $30 million, that's a lot of money. any idea where herman got that number from? >> yes. she's saying that that is the
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rental reimbursement that she would be due if she has to leave her home. in the filing, she calls it her home quite frequently. and the defense is saying, this is the home that tiger woods still lives in with his two children. >> wow. that's messy. jean casarez, thank you so much. we will be right back. experience the exhilaration of the performanance line at the invitation to lexus sasales event.
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re-election campaign. biden's proposal cuts the deficit by almost $3 trillion over ten years. it boosts medicare, child care and education, while also raising taxes on the wealthy and corporations. but the president's plan is likely dead in the water when it reaches the gop-controlled house. republicans vowed that tax increases of any kind will be blocked. prosecutors say a 6-year-old bo boy, accused of shooting his teacher, will not face criminal charges. the shooting happened in january at ridgeneck in newport news, virginia. the teacher was critically injured and spent a week in the hospital. the child is said to have a history of violence. brian todd is live with more. brian, what are prosecutors saying as they explain this decision to not charge this 6-year-old? >> reporter: kristin, the commonwealth attorney, howard gwen, is saying it'd be untenable to charge the 6-year-old boy in this case. mr. gwen told other news outlets
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it'd be problematic because the child wouldn't areally have the competency to understand what the charge would mean and wouldn't have the ability to assist a lawyer in the case. here's what he told wtkr about this. >> after researching this issue thoroughly, we do not believe the law supports charging and convicting a 6-year-old with aggravated assault. >> are you able to say that the prosecutorial efforts are focusing on the parents? >> well, i have to say, prosecutorial efforts are focused on determining what the facts are, applying it to the law and determining whether we can charge anyone with a crime that we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt. >>. >> reporter: that's the next domino to fall, the charging of this boy's parents. this attorney said repeatedly that no decisions have been made on that score. they've had a huge amount of evidence and interviews and other material to process through their attorney. the parents told us they kept
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the gun at their home secured, that the gun was secured with a safety and kept on the top shelf of the mother's bedroom closet. the firm representing abby south zwerner, teacher shot, had no comment. the parents are continuing to cooperate with authorities. kristin. >> brian todd, thank you so much. let's bring in legal analyst joey jackson. joey, gosh, you know, it's so rare to see children as young as 6 arrested, let alone charged. i mean, 6 years old is just so young. what do you think about the prosecutor's decision to not press charges against the 6-year-old in this case? >> yeah, kristin, you know, i get it. the reality is that i think the prosecutor took into account really the mental state and the mindframe of a child. if you look in general, and it's really a broader societal question, i think, that society is struggling with, when you look at law itself, you look at
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precedent. what precedent is there for doing this? what guidance is there? you're in territory that, while not foreign, having occurred before, but certainly doesn't happen on a day-to-day basis, thank goodness. then you look at the question of, when does a child formulate the mental state? when you charge somebody in law, kristin, you look a their mental state. could they form a mental state with respect to intending to harm someone, with respect to knowingly performing an action they know can cause bodily harm? when you assess that, you have to know and understand that, certainly, a child's mind operates differently than does an adult. can you actually prove that? then if you look at states across the country, there's no firm answer to what should be the age we arrest children, that we prosecute children, that we put children in jail. so if you look, final point, at the whole issue concerning adults and children, you see that the system for children is predicated upon rehabilitation. with adults, it's predicated on punishment. i get and understand the analysis that the prosecutor put forward in saying, you know what, we are just not going
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forward in this case. >> so what do you do when, you know, you have a 6-year-old who doesn't have the mental capacity or maturely to understand what he's done or perhaps what the charges would be if heh had bee charged, but at the same time, this little boy is said to have a history of violence at this school. clearly now, he's shot and seriously injured his teacher. what do you do? >> yeah, it's a great question. i think it is a question that's not only being debated in this juris jurisdiction, and we saw when they came out with whether or not to charge, but it's a debate throughout the country. when you look at the country in different states, how they treat it in 25 states not even having a minimum age upon which you can arrest, what do you do? i think what the authorities here decided to do is focus on what i noted before, let's look at the issues of rehabilitation, look at issues of what we can do to get a person who is 6, to get to 7, 8, 10, 20, in a way they can make a contribution, in a
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way that they can perform in a way that is societally acceptable, and even perhaps be a contributing member of society. we know this particular individual, kristin, had some special needs, and i'm sure they'll focus on that. i'm sure they'll focus on developing him so that he can go on, do better, be better and get better. but it is a thorny question, not only limited here, but just that we're all really grappling with, of what you do and what is appropriate in terms of punishment, what is appropriate in terms of deterrence, and what is appropriate in terms of rehabilitation as it concerns a person only 6 years old. >> let's talk about the parents quickly. as brian todd was reporting, they say the gun was properly stored with a trigger lock. based on what the prosecutor just said, do you think that they could be facing charges, the parents? >> so, you know, kristin, anything is possible. i think what certainly society demands is that a parent not only take accountability but they're careful, so instances like this don't occur.
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i think an investigation, which is full and fair, will take place. if they are deemed to be involved in any negligence, right, where they were careless, where they even were reckless in terms of leaving the gun in a place, and we know they say it was in the closet and the lock was on, et cetera, you know, let's see if that bears out. let's see what, if anything, the parents could have done better. let's see if they exposed the teacher, ultimately, to this unnecessary risk by not taking the most precaution they possibly could to avoid this oc occurring. we'll see. it's premature to note whether they'll be charged, but, certainly, it'll be investigated. if they should be accountable, they should be held accountable if the evidence and facts bear that out. >> such a tough case with no easy answers. joey jackson, thank you. >> always, thanks, kristin. nasa is now tracking an asteroid that could, i say could, hit earth in 2046. we're going to talk about that next.
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fernocihia, he's an engineer at the jet propulsion laboratory. thank you for joining us. i'd like to ask you about the newly discovered asteroid. the name of the asteroid is 20 2023dw, based on your experience, how many of an exposure to planet to earth? >> no, this object is not particularly concerning. it was discovered on february 26th. at nasa's jet propulsion laboratory in particular the center for near earth object studies. we keep track of those, whenever there's a new discovery. the trajectory for the next several years and check whether it's even a remote possibility forean impact. in most cases, we find that the impact is not possible. we can rule that out very quickly. in this case, we cannot do yet. we need more data to get to that point, but we have a small, very
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small, 0.2% for 2026. i like to put it in a way, 99% probability that the object is not going to reach the earth. >> well, that's great to hear. anytime an asteroid is at least on some target with some official of hitting earth is makes, you know, earthlings take note. this asteroid is about 50 meters across, about the size of an olympic swimming pool. why was it only discovered in february. because i know this is a concern that nasa has about asteroids being detected later than they'd like? >> yeah, this asteroid is only 50 meters which means it closer to us picking it up. and we had to wait until february to discover it. but nasa discovering 90% of the
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objects 140 meters or greater because those are the ones that can prove significant damage. this one is fairly small, and a slight benefit for the search of asteroids, the fact that we can discover an object this small, with impact visibility in 2026, that's more than 20 years of lead-time, that's a good sign of discovering objects. >> that's pretty good. >> yep, absolutely. >> i just want to reiterate, very, very slim chance that this does hit earth. but let's just say by some chance it did, what kind of damage would an asteroid of this do, 50 meters across? >> a good analog is the impact that happened in 1988 that was an impact over russia. and that flattened trees over 2,000 square kilometers. so that's the kind of analog. as you said, the probability is really small. as soon as we get new data, we'll be able to refine the
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calculations and update the hazard assessment. and chances are, we'll rule out this possibility. >> davide, really quick, one more question, nasa d.a.r.t. spacecraft that hit that asteroid, successfully, off course, i guess in november of last year, the first plenty tear defense mission, could that type of technology be used to push an a asteroid like this? >> absolutely, that's the big reason why we feel that this, we wanted to see and prove that we had the capability of moving an asteroid, off course, if we need to do that. and that was such a spectacular success. it was such a bull's-eye. >> one of my favorite space stories of the year, davide, i hope i did not butcher your name too much, thank you for sharing your expertise and talking asteroids with me.
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