colin kaepernick is speaking out about his childhood and exclaning how his white adoptive parents at times echoed racist ideas. his new graphic novel detailing his high school years. >> i know my parents love me. but there were still problem mattic things i went through. it was important to though that, no, it can happen in your own home and while we move forward collectively, addressing the racism. >> he took cues from his

superstar allen iverson. and teenage kaepernick wanted corn rolls to match. he's getting what rolls, his mom asked? >> you look like a little thug. >> your mom said that to you. >> yeah. it's spaces where, how do i navigate the situation now? and it's why i have my hair long today. >> cnn attempted to reach out to his parents but not did not receive a response. he brings up a lot of issues here. l.z., what do you hear here? >> it's messy. he's right, you know. he is right. i just personally would not have chosen to say that about my parents, who saved my life and raised me. i'm not saying his argument or perspective is wrong. i'm in an interracial marriage. i have heard comments made that

i had to check people who love me. he's right. that does exist. but i'm not going to write a list about my relatives and put them on blast like that. although, i just did. but i didn't write a book. i'm not going to profit from it. >> i think it's lazy. i think that if you look at what just transpired here, every single black child in this country with parents who love them have been told you have to be twice as good to get half as far. there is a reality, is that something we should have to deal with? should you as a black person have to consider what the name you want to name your child have an impact on the resume that it's written on? we haven't have to have the conversations. but it's a reality after america, and you have to deal with the realities of the world that we live in today, so i think for me, listening to him talk about things that parents

of any race unfortunately have to talk about black children in a retro active knview where we have seen the horrors of george floyd up front. we know in undeniable manners that the horrors, all of that is real. but i think it's a clumsy way to deal with a real conversation that parents across the spectrum are unfortunately forced to have with too many black children every day. >> i thought it was taken out of context. it might send a little bad. but i think parents who adopt kids who don't look like them try to do a good job of learning about what that means and learning cultural thing. i won't talk about race. but i have daughters and i thought it was really important, and still think it's important that i don't see and do things that create false expectations

or promote gender roles. you throw like a girl, you cry like a girl. all of us here have parents who made mistakes. >> i think you are focused on something that is interesting. i think when he was adopted in that era, the expectation is that he would assimilate in the white family. i think that that was -- they were uncomfortable with him when he had corn rows. he was supposed to assimilate and look like their community. now, times have changed and he is talking how they could have done what you're talking about, which is have been more sensitive to his culture. >> i think it's a broader culture. we are looking at the reality with ja morant in the nba. the notion there is a toxicity by media, thrust on blackness, that has little to do with being black. you look at what allen iverson had to deal with, as a grown

man, making millions because of quote unquote, wearing blackness as an armor. that is not his fault. they changed the entire dress code of the nba because of allen iverson. they changed the dress code of the nfl because people warned against the false characterizations of black people. >> hold on. want to bring in an expert who can relate to the topic. dr r rhonda was adopted by a white family, and has written a book, and worked on the plat plot line of "this is us." thank you so much for being here. what did you think about him speaking out about his parents this way? >> i would say it takes a lot of courage. but i applaud him.

because transracial adoption is bold, and it's context tied. so when many of us were adopted in the early 1970s, the national association of black social workers said this is essentially cultural genocide and the kids may not be associated with people of color because they're living in white spaces. so the question is, would they be able to grow and develop into healthy individuals, aware of their ethnicity and connected to the black community? and right after that, social science -- most of them were white -- wrote studies that looked at what colin kaepernick is going through. they looked at black and

biracial and korean children who were raised in white homes and what we know, is that most of us are living in white spaces. we have no racial mirrors and i would -- i would hope that we can be a little bit compassionate to the adoptee and understand that we love our parents. but yet we're trying to figure out how to be black, authentic, love our parents but love ourselves. we're trying to figure out who we are, and we're trying to -- some of us, trying to honor our ancestral heritage. so when we're trying to figure this out and our parents are living in white spaces with white friends, and we didn't see anything that looks like us on our -- at our dinner table, we're putting a lot of weight and burden on the shoulders of

transracial adoptees. so i think that authors, activists like colin and so many other adult adoptees out here trying to honor our parents and also honor ourselves -- >> yeah, rhonda, i have a question for you. >> yeah, i appreciate that. i read your notes. you said there were times that you -- i don't know if you really thought you were white, but there was a color blindness to your childhood. explain what that felt like. >> yes. okay, so basically, the foundation of transracial adoption is on a color blind platform, and it's tied to federal policy. the multiethnic act of 1994, and it says we have black and brown

kids in foster care. we need to push them through, and if there are white families, this is a pathway through. so many of us were raised not to see color. but in my case, even though i grew up in washington, d.c., i was living in a bubble with my family. my father is from netherlands, and he likes to speak fresian and dutch and wanted us to know about his heritage. we want to know about our tear tee heritage as well. we have our own legacy. i'm looked to a rich legacy. >> i want to get our panel take on it. molly? >> i thought that was so moving

and interesting and important. and i thought that -- that is just -- i was like, welling up a little bit. i mean, that is -- she's -- that is what we have to do, and that is what we all do growing up. wow. >> i think those are also really enlightening to hear her talk about this. but what i read, a lot of the same outcomes can happy with biracial. barack obama talked about his white grandparents and the racism that your white father -- there is a lot of similarity. i would like to know if there are sameimilarities with that. >> go ahead, rhonda. >> there are similarities. i think where there are differences, so many of us as adoptees are dealing with trauma, grief, loss. we have been pulled from our

ethnic commune at thities and w placed in white spaces. if i'm coming from ethiopia in the winter, and now i'm dropped in michigan where we just had snowfall. any body is in shock. now i'm with people that look different. they have a different rhythm. they have different values and we are asked with the policy to suck it up, to smile, to be grateful because we just got saved. so what i'm asking and what i think colin is saying is that we're not projects. we're human beings with a spirit, a soul and a body. and we are connected to a legacy. so white parents, i think, in doing parenting should also recognize they have an onus to do right by us. and to do right by the families in which we came from.

i have a mom and a daddy, and i also have my adoptive family, and you can do both and. you can love your adoptive family, and we just want to love ourselves too. >> it's so interesting what she is saying. there used to be a feeling in the '70s and '80s, we're doing right by this child by adopting them out of the foster care system, out of poverty, so we are doing right by them. it's an altruistic thing. it's a win-win, and colin kaepernick is saying, that is not enough for the adoptee. >> no, it's not enough for the parents either. i have locks obviously. and one of the things that is cool, is when you see the white parent come in with their black adopted child. you see parents that are actually making an etch ffort, understanding, i don't know how to work with this texture of hair but i'm going to go out of

my comfort zone to make sure they child is okay. i'm not sure -- i haven't read the book. the graphic novel, i said it's messy, i talk personally, i would not talk about my adoptive parents -- >> hearing from rhonda is a great example of bringing on an expert in that situation, and what it does, allows us to realize that we in the media can make one sentence out of context and talk about it. but the context is brought to us by an expert with a lived experience and it puts a different story what colin kaepernick said. that is great. >> i think the broader context, we do have plenty of black children who are in the foster system. >> and what children i believe are adopted out of foster care are probably three times more -- >> the organization, harvest of hope put together out in jersey,

to figure out, how do we get more black parents and black young people engaged in fostering young people. but beyond that, again, i just think to your point, it's messy in the way that the interview is done. i think when we talk about the comparison to former president obama, there was a broader context, a nuanced conversation. but at the end of the day, i don't see the harm in parents trying to protect a child from the very real dangers of being a black child living in america, and if we're going to have the conversations on monday about having to know that if the police show up, you want to have your hands on the steering wheel and the dash board and about making no sudden moves and giving them whiplash and it is a mixed message. it's many ways a nuanced message

that leads to less people putting themselves out on a limb to do what their his parents did, that led to him having opportunities that most people cannot dream of. >> thank you. rhonda, thank you. we are out of time. i really appreciate all the context that you gave us, and you sharing your personal story. >> thank you. thanks for having me. >> thanks for being here. colin kaepernick, as you know, started the conversation about what people now call woke now, and now ron desantis is drumming that up into a culture war, and the white house today is hitting back. we will talk about all that. one prilosec otc each morning blocks heartburn all day and all night. prilosec otc reduces excess acid for 24ours,

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up woke ideology. >> states governored by leftist ideology and causing their s societies to crumble. it's wrong to tell a second grader they were born in the wrong body. it's wrong to have gender ideology imposed in our schools, and in florida, we don't let it happen. just let our kids be kids. we have to fight if we see it in medicine on the universities or the corporations. you can't just say let it go. because then we're going to be living in an oppressed woke-ocracy. our state is where woke goes to g die. >> we are going to go to the panel. >> i just hate watching him. he is spreading hatred and so

many people are so afraid for kids who identify as trans, for themselves and lgbt people and people of color. it's so dangerous what he is doing. >> and people in florida seem to like it. people are flocking to florida, and -- >> we have a lot of people in this country who are filled with hate. filled with the fear that drives that, and the word woke, i hear that word and i see something c completely different. >> we talked about that. it means something different for everybody. i don't know if it's hatred. some people really like he is pushing back on the cultural changes. >> to talk about kids, to say let kids be kids and not let them talk about who they are, be who they are, it's despicable and he's using children, and it's horrible. coming from the republicans who are constantly talking about properp protecting kids, they are

putting kids in such danger in this country. >> look, i think that woke means different things to different people. specificity of language is important. when i talk about woke, or crt, they are a catchall for all the things, that i have grievances, et cetera. they there are a lot of people are not filled with hate, who think it's concerning that we would be having permanent, physical alterations to children -- >> that actually is happening. >> i think there's a lot of fighting things that don't exist. but i would say -- i don't think second graders are told we're born in the wrong body. that's not -- if someone is doing that, that person should be fired. >> that's not how it works. >> every time we bring footage of it happening --

>> we have yet to see footage of that. the people who remove the books from the classrooms and they take the books out of libraries, they are usually not the good guys. >> hold on, i have a political question about him, l.z.. is he in danger of becoming a one-trick pony? this is very success nfl florida, but he is playing the hits again, and maybe he is introducing it to a national crowd, but it's starting to sound -- maybe because we play it so much, but it's sounding familiar. >> it is awfully familiar, but i don't think it's a one-trick pony and i don't think it's hurting his campaign. he hasn't officially announced but come on. the hundreds of bills around the country. there's an audience for this. are states for people who want to hear the message, and i think it's a good opportunity for the administration, as well as other

grassroots leaders to push back with narratives. >> let me play this. here is the administration. this is white house press secretary jean-pierre. >> when extreme republicans the, the maga republicans, don't agree with an issue or with policy, they don't bring forth someone who is going to either have a good faith confidence. they go to a conversation of woke. but that is not actually policy. what that turns into is hate. >> go ahead, molly. >> my question, if -- desantis is trying to out-trump trump and he is using books to do it. i don't think they want to. >> they are using books as an example. and we talked about it yesterday. when you have parents to show up to read a book that is given to their children and they have to

cut off the microphone -- >> wait, when does it happen? >> that does happen. >> we just have to be honest here. every time -- >> i have a lot of children. i have been to their schools. i have never seen anything like that. >> it happened in virginia. >> go ahead. >> here is an understanding. if your argument is it's not happening that often, the fact it does happen -- >> it has to do with what the threshold is, there are lots of books that kids are reading in high school, they are comfortable with, and other schools they are not. >> i agree. again, to your point, there are so many issues in this country that we're not talking about. we're talking about this because i moved the needle politically. we are here 11:25 eastern time and we are talking about a man in iowa who has yet to declare for presidency. >> i talked to the florida

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national conversation. we are excited to bring you this lively discussion. here is overtime with bill maher. >> okay, we are here with cnn. glad to have them. we have our guests. okay, here are the questions i hold in my hand. let me do -- >> nobody under 75. >> all right, with a former cdc director testifying if labs probably caused the pandemic, gain of function -- i don't know what gain of function is. but that is how possibly this -- it's very, very scary to me.

it's that we are taking fibers, to manipulate it in a lab, and study it. i would say this about that. i will jump in, you can argue. if we think nuclear power, we can't have it. it's great, unless the 1 in 1,000 chance that it goes bad, it gees so bad. >> it's self-evident that we have to have the highest restrictions for research. i come from a people who always worry about the worst possible jot come. this is the worst possible outcome. put that first. yeah, fit happens the virus evolves worse naturally, we will deal with it then. but to bring it able seems crazy. >> it should have been rethought. it's like the nuclear issue. i didn't see a difference.

>> what impact if any can we expect the collapse of the silicon valley bampnk to have t financial system. silicon valley bank, they are tech, it's what they finance. the biggest bank failure since the 2008 crash, i guess we could have seen it coming. and bitcoin, is that what the bank is? bitcoin? >> it's a 40-year-old bank, from the valley. designed and funded to make sure that startups that have a tough time to get money. this is called the lehigh valley bank, the reason to have concern about it, it's the confidence. it's a small bank they are

caught short. >> are we bailing out bitcoin loser? >> no, this is not about bitcoin. they misaligned their spending with the amount coming in. they lost the spending overnight. >> is it central to the startup industry or just -- >> it used to be 40 years ago. it is no longer. >> speaking of tech, elon musk just announced that he plans to build his own eutopia in austin texas. [ laughter ] it gets a laugh just on the premise. with the affordable housing for his employees. we didn't see electric cars on rocketing or larnding on mars. this day thinks big. if i was going to build ewutopi with respect to austin, i

wouldn't put it there, and i like austin. i like austin a lot. i keep it weird every time i go. the stick to it-iveness, and i don't know if it would work like the disney world in the beginning. i dont trust him to do. >> there is no such thing as utopia. don't use the word utopia. what a fool that is. talk about an overpromising con man. i'm going to build -- >> yeah, and eutopia is a personal concept, and mine is not the same as elon's, i'm pretty sure. and my first thought is, well, i definitely will not be living there. >> well, i can think of worse places to live and worse people to live under. >> with college enrollment down

nationwide, kids are finally getting the hint. skip college. it's a bunch of bull -- oh, sorry. twice in five weeks, i mess up. two out of five. i'm going to get better. are young people catching on to the fact that -- yeah, card, i agree with you, card, are young people catching on that college may not be worth with the investment. >> there is too much god damn college. >> stop swearing. we're on cnn. >> the idea to be a normal american is to spend four years living in a dormitory pretending to like shakespeare. that ideas that everybody is supposed to go to college. everyone is supposed to get a

good high school education, that is another rant, and you are supposed to apply a trade unless you want to do a rarefied thing like go to college. that is one way that it's mission creed that everyone goes to college, and it's not true that if you don't go to college, you will sell pencils on the street. there are perfectly good careers had. we have to talk about it more. >> there is another phenomenon that i think is fascinating. and kids are learning how to do stuff professionally youtube. if you are a coder or not, you are watching a 90 minute video, and moving a faster pace than the education system can get you there. the daniels, the guys who directed "everywhere all at once," they went to film school and they are the ones saying don't go to film school. >> well, that is for true about the arts.

>> you don't need school for the arts. you either have it or you don't. you don't have much you can learn in school. >> a guy with a phd and an mba. >> well, you don't like shakespeare. are you saying shakespeare is past his prime? do you still like -- >> i think that shakespeare is a well guy, but you should learn about him in high school. all of that should be packed in, much more should be packed in the high school education. maybe even have a 13th grade and if you go to finance, go work in a bank. you can work in a bank when you're 19. i would like it to the be that way. the four years where your mind is being expanded? expand your mind as a teenager and then go get a job. >> they are expanding their minds any way. that's the problem.

okay, wall mmart just announced they are closing the last two stores in portland. >> oh. >> in part due to rampant theft. does it reflect lax attitude to crime in liberal cities? it's like, it's just not worth it. gosh, that is something not good about this country. that stores are saying, gosh, we're going to give up rather than -- we can't make a go of it because the security situation is so poor. i mean, i don't want to live in that country where we can't keep a walmart open in a major city. am i wrong? >> i mean, portland has a problem. portland is devastating. it's chaos town. >> i'm going there soon. how bad? >> it's bad. you should be careful. >> really? even at the comedy show? >> well, i would say especially

at the comedy show. >> what if the -- what i need shaving cream at the last minute? where do i go? >> airport, man. >> if you go in a store, the shaving cream and deordorant, it's behind a lock -- >> i am beginning to order it on amazon. >> i feel guilty about it. >> as if they need more help -- >> large staores moving away -- it's an old story. it's hard to fix crime without draconian measures. it surprised me there were

walmarts in central portland. it wouldn't happen in cincinnati or denver. >> i always loved portland. i'm going there. i'm not sure when it is but look it up on the website. thank you, cnn, thank you, guys. that was a lot of fun. thank you. >> and you can watch "real time with bill maher" on friday nights at 10:00 p.m. and watch overtime on friday night at 11:30. we'll be right back. custom scans help you find new w trading opportunities while an earnings tool hehelps you plan your trades and stay on topp of the market i know there's conflicting information about dupuytren's contracture. iwell, pele may thinkget that their contracture has to be severe to be treate but it doesn't. if you can't lay your hand flat on the table,

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okay, you guys are ready. i can see that. it's very exciting. it's friday night. it's quiz night. let's see what the panelists remember from this week's news stories. i have rules and i don't want cheating this week like last week. okay, here we go. question number one, in chris rock's new comedy special, he "a," forgive will smith, "b," recreated the slap, or "c," joked about entanglements. okay, you all got that right. novak djokovic can't play in a u.s. tournament because highway has a torn achilles, he is unvaccinated. or they spelled his name wrong. yeah that is "c."

>> all right, next, here we go, after trump's inauguration, michelle obama said she went straight to mcdonald's, "b," went out for drinks to george bush or cried for 30 minutes. one, two, three. >> along with the rest of us. >> it was "c," cried unco uncont uncontrollably for 30 minutes. >> i want it to be "a." >> okay, i like that a lot. next question, which country has ruled flipping the bird a god-given right. "a," canada, "b," the united states, or "c," france. one, two, three. no, no, you cannot -- choose one. choose one. >> what is my take? >> okay, "a." but joe says "c." believe it or not, it's "a,"

canada. >> eh! >> i would have thought it was the united states. new jersey is named the middle finger the state bird. next question. this week, it was revealed tucker carlson said this about donald trump. "a," i hate him passionately. "b," i love him passionately. or "c," he's terrible at golf. one, two, three. >> he said he hates donald trump. >> yeah, you all are right. if he said he's terrible at golf, trump would have been more insulted. gavin newsm said he could boycott in and out, walgreens or th the oscars -- >> okay, and they are going it after the abortion pill.

and the state of california is like, we won't do business with you, walgreens. >> good for you, gavin. >> i appreciate that. you said "c," the oscars. that's a good guess. >> i thought he was mad like the rest of us. >> maverick. >> next question, this week, oklahoma voters rejected a ballot measure to "a," lower the drinking age to 18. "b," legalize recreational marijuana, or "c," bring the speed limit up to 85 miles per hour. >> i'm always -- you are hiding the answers like we're in grade school. >> i have the key this time. >> i don't know why you are leaning. so weird. >>dy did i win? >> i actually do know what it would be like to sit next to you in high school. this is really -- >> i know, i would be sitting next to you. you were probably super smart

and i would pay you for the answers. >> yeah, excellent. well done. all right, how much time do we have left? oh, all right. anyone with any other question? first, you won. all three of you tied, and l.z., i think you threw the game and you took it, a two-point loss. >> the idea of michelle obama going to mcdonald's after the inauguration sounds wonderful to me. >> don't you like here going to drinks with george bush. >> i like that she did what everyone did. i cried longer and i drank heavily. >> you did "b" and "c." >> yeah, i try cried and dank. >> and drink he drank soda, of course. thank you, we'll be right back .

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