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this won't do well at auction. but at at&t, it's worth a brand-new samsung galaxy s23. wait really? mmhmm. what about this? at&t's deal is back. wow. everyone gets a free new samsung galaxy s23 with a galaxy phone trade-in. any year, any condition. in this era of trivial politics comedian bill maher doesn't care if you're democrat or republican. his decades of cross roads of politics and comedy has given him an inside pollical consultants and bookies would die for. from this in 2015 -- >> all those people who say donald trump could not go all the way i don't think they're right. >> to this just a few years later. >> i don't think he's leaving. even if he loses the election in 2020. >> tonight bill maher looks ahead to 2024 and trump's odds
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now. do you think he's going to get the nomination and do you think he can beat joe biden? and maher doesn't hold back against president biden or the democrats either. >> democrats sometimes can take it too far. >> reporter: he gives us his in filtered take. on cancel culture, religion, and one of his favorite hobbies. so you're a connoisseur of weed i think that's fair to say. from realtime to prime time this is a cnn one-on-one special. welcome to cnn special one-on-one with bill maher. bill maher has been a figure in the world of political comedy for more than 40 years and he doesn't seem to care who's in power or whether his opinion's unpopular.
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he still hits the road for stand up shows across the country and currently the host of "realtime with bill maher" on hbo which like cnn is owned by warner bros discovery. you'll hear his takes on the next race to the white house, the state of cancel culture and how he has become the great predictor of donald trump. so thanks so much for doing this. >> hey, pleasure. >> so a lot of people might not know that your dad was actually in the news biz -- i mean your mom was a nurse but your dad was in the news business, and i'm wondering how much do you think that might have had an effect on how much you do news oriented comedy. >> tremendously. i think it was a great advantage. first of all he was also funny, and you'll find this a lot with comedians, that comedy gene just gestates through a generation. i grew up in a house that was interested in the news. my parents talked about the news.
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i was aware of it, and in a way i don't think most kids were. so those are my influences. comedy and news, and what did i do? i ended up doing a show that's a comedy show that uses the news as fodder, and i wish my father could have lived to see it. >> he passed away early? >> no, but he saw me do johnny carson but didn't see me do politically incorrect. >> what's your response, and you must hear this a lot, that you're one of the primary sources of information? >> flattered as it should be is my response. i feel like people are looking for something that is not slanted. i mean i certainly have lost fans over the years because i don't say things that please people all the time, but that's my ultimate bond with the audience. when i lose people it's like,
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okay, you were never meant to be with me in the first place. we can't have a relationship. >> there are people conditioned to only hearing, only wanting to hear one side of the story. >> correct. they do not want to hear the other side. it's so ironic. when i started on "politically incorrect" 30 years ago, 1993, everybody said you can't really do a show like this because you're giving your opinions. that's not what talk show hosts do. they don't and can't give their opinions. you'll alienate half the crowd. that's not what johnny carson did. it's not that david letterman did. that's not what jay leno did, and i said let's give it a try. maybe the people are a little more sophisticated than you're giving them credit for and they can actually take it that a guy who's on tv, they don't always agree with him but they still like him. just like in life you don't always agree with your friends on everything. so it did turn out that it's okay because here i am 30 years later still on. but i get every year when we want new writers on our show, i love the writers i have but i'm
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running a business here. i'm sorry, it's brutal. but if i can find somebody better, that's what i'm doing. i always serve the show first. every year i read these packets of proposed writers and read them this year as every year, and it's just stunning how uniform their points of view are. >> and it hasn't always been that way. >> i don't think it was ever quite this bad. it's the exact same point of view on every single issue. and it's very predictable. i have a relationship with people who want to hear what i think is the truth and i'm going to present both sides. the truth isn't always 50-50. >> right. >> so i live with that. but it gets more difficult because we're so tribal now. >> so it's interesting about this because five, six years of trump where it's not like you
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pulled punches against him at all. >> no, nobody was harder on that man i don't think, and honestly i don't think nobody had their hair on fire about was going to happen as far as him believing in democracy and not that he wanted to leave. >> he could lose by a landslide by 2020 and i still think he would say it's rigged, fake news, deep state. if trump loses the election in november, he's not going to leave. >> you were predicting that in 2018. >> oh, '16, yeah, before he was even president. >> he's not going to leave. what made you think that? >> have you seen this man? he's everything wrong with a human being stuck within one man. i mean how could he ever do anything different? he is incapable i think of ever
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conceding defeat, and i've never seen him do it, so why would i think he would be gracious ever in that situation or say he ever lost? and then he said it even in 2016 when he was running, they would ask them point-blank would you -- well, it's -- he's basically saying if we win, yes, then it's a fair election, if we don't, it was rigged. he would never actually just come out and say, yes, of course this is america, this is how we do. this is the jewel in our crown in this country, the peaceful transfer of power, nothing like that. >> you've been the great predictor of president trump. you thought he could win, he wouldn't leave peacefully. he's running. do you think he can get the nomination and beat joe biden? >> both. >> both you think affirmatively or -- >> first of all, it might not be joe biden. i think if it's biden against trump, biden will win. i do.
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not guaranteed, but i think that's a really good bet. it was the first time and i think it would be the second time even more so. >> even at age 82? >> yes, absolutely. first of all, i think that's a big red herring that his age is such a factor. you don't need to be young or spry to be president. yes, it's very helpful to run for president. you need to be energetic and look sharp in a debate. he could do the job of president perfectly fine, and i think he's done the job perfectly fine. do i love everything he's done, absolutely not. but he's president, that goes with the territory. but generally he's restored normality. he's got some things passed nobody thought he could get through, this divided congress. got out of afghanistan. did he stick the landing on that one, no, but this is he did it. ukraine, i think he's done fine. and every other country in the world seems to have gotten this idea about the elderly, they're wise. that's what you need. i don't mind at all that he's 82 or 84 or 86. yes, if he loses his marbles, but there are plenty of 86-year-old people who have not
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lost their marbles, and people used to get that. we have an important decision to make. go to the elders. they will tell you what the wise decision is, and then you young people will go and carry it out. reagan can do anything. he went to bed at 4:30. so that does not bother me at all. it's going to bother people in the country because when you run for president you get exposed your flaw. he was always a gaffe machine to begin with. so it could look bad, but if it's trump against biden i think biden will win. but -- if it's not biden i don't know. >> you talk about the democrats being so hemmed in by identity politics. the counter argument would be it's always been identity politics. it's always been white people so people like you and me didn't
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notice, and now it's just an effort at inclusion which i'm sure theoretically you support. >> yeah, i support it in fact. but i mean, you know, the -- the democrats sometimes can take it too far or, you know, i would categorize liberal as different than woke. you know, woke, which started out as a good thing, alerts to injustice. who could be against that? it became sort of an eye roll because they loved diversity except ideas, and that's not really where we should be. they have a trail of very bad ideas i would think in wokeness. >> how do you define wokeness? because i hear people use the term all the time and means something different to everybody. >> again, i think it's this collection of ideas not building but very often undoing it. five years ago abraham lincoln was not a controversial figure among liberals. we liked him. now they take his name off
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schools and teardown his statues. really, lincoln isn't good enough for you? you know, five, ten years ago bedrock liberalism was we are striving to be a color-blind society where we don't see race. of course we see it, but it doesn't matter. that's not what woke is. woke is something very different. it's identity -- we see it all the time. it's always the most important thing. i don't think that's liberalism. i mean i could mention so many issues like that. i remember doing that show on hbo, a comic relief for the homeless, and the idea then again among liberals i thought was for the sake of compassion can be get these people off the streets so they have a roof over their heads? and now it's like how dare you try to move the homeless, this
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is where they live. it's like, again, you change the definitions and then you say i'm more conservative. i believe what i've always believed. you change these things and then you've got to pay for it. up next, he got it right in 2016 and 2020. what's bill maher's take on trump 2024? >> if it's a bunch of people in there, yeah, they're going to split the anti-trump vote because, you know, trump has a very hard core following. i mean it's a cult, and cults don't ever go away. whoa. okay. easy does it. we switched to liberty mutual and saved $652. they customize your car insurance,
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it's not me who's changed, it's the left who's now made up of a small contingent who's gone mental and a large contingent who refuse to call them out for it. but i will. >> do you think democratic politicians have changed their views, or do you think they're just afraid of their party's activists a way a lot of republicans are afraid of their party's activists, the maga folks? >> "b," they're afraid. >> they're just afraid. >> yes, i think both sides -- again, there's four tribes i think in this country. i think there's old school liberals, old school republicans and democrats, the people who used to -- i think that's the majority of the country. >> like hillary clinton and jeb bush. >> yes, the kind of people who never agreed on a hell of a lot but found ways to work -- they
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didn't hate each other. it wasn't all about making liberals cry but we can get a grand bargain and that kind of stuff. i think that's majority and then you have trumpers and then you have wokesters, and those fringes are not doing this country any great favors. >> if donald trump is challenged for the nomination -- i mean he's obviously already being challenged by governor nikki haley and talk from other people governor desantis and mike pompeo and others, vice president pence. do you think any of them could take him out? >> no, but i think what they will do is ensure him the nomination. >> by splitting -- >> absolutely. >> the same thing that happened before. >> the only way trump doesn't get that nomination is if it's just him and desantis. if it's a bunch of people in there, yeah, they're going to split the anti-trump vote because, you know, trump has a very hard core following. it's a cult, and cults don't
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ever go away. look at christianity. so i despair about that because i think when politicians smell the white house they don't care about the reper cushions for the country, they just want to go for it. desantis against trump i think could get it. someone said to me once a conservative guy, he said the thing you guys don't understand about us is we don't really like trump. that doesn't speak to all the trumpers. he definitely some real fans. >> oh, sure. but there's a lot of people who voted for him and that's their little secret. we don't like him either, we just vote for him because the stuff you're doing on their fringe is scarier than the stuff you're doing which is saying a lot. >> i think it's also he hates the same people they hate even if they don't agree with trump.
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>> yes. and they love it he sticks his thumb in their eye. >> do you think that desantis is part of the old school republican tribe, or do you think he's more of a trumper 2.0? >> that's the great question. i don't know if he's playing a part or if that's really him. you know, he's -- the reason he's so effective is he does two things at once. he can be a real old school republican who just takes care of business, you know, covid, the hurricane. stuff like that he just goes about his business. he doesn't do crazy stuff. but then when he wants to throw red meat to the base, he's a performance artist, and he does a lot of really outrageous stuff. but i get it that that's where the party is. if you want a big future in that party, especially if you want to take on donald trump, you've got to ride both those horses at once. everyone keeps saying to me, but he has no personality. i don't think people care. i think a lot of politicians don't have personality. nixon had no personality.
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i could name some politicians who had absolutely no personality. it's great if you have one like obama had a great one and kennedy had a great one. but biden is not -- you know, james brown at the apollo exactly. i mean, i don't think that's going to hold ron desantis back. >> it's interesting. i met this couple from florida, liberal democrats, and then they told me how much they love ron desantis. >> really? >> and it's for the governance. >> from florida? >> yeah, they were from florida. >> the people in florida like him. >> well, he won re-election with almost 60% of the vote. >> also while the rest of the country was overdoing covid -- i was there doing covid. it was night and day from this place. and i'm not one ever on the page with covid paranoia so i thought it was a breath of fresh air. and the people there when they would visit me here sometimes would say, oh, my god, in the middle of the pandemic you people live like this, it's so unnecessary.
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we don't live like this. and turned out a lot of what ron desantis did was smarter. he kept the beaches open. yes, you're not going to get it outside. in fact, it's good. get some fresh air and sunshine that would be better for you, and he also protected the elderly. it was much more targeted, sort of the opposite of what happened in new york state. next, he's an outspoken critic of what he calls cancel culture, but as someone with a history of controversial comments himself does bill maher think his clock is ticking? >> anybody in this era can absolutely fall off the ledge at any moment. in two seconds i can get canceled. anybody could.
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you're not ready for them to boo you or you're surprised? >> it's always possible. it's interesting, my studio audience realtime always booed me. not for most of the show, but they were definitely more woke than i was and definitely more sensitive. you know, i would ask all the time i would say, why, these are the people who claim they, you know, flew all across the country. they waited for months to get tickets to this show, they're my fans and then they come here like -- there's something about when you get in public you have to put in this act that you are somehow more of a moral person that you really are, not that i'm doing anything immoral, but that you have to react in a certain way to things that are politically incorrect. you think i would count as frefree advertising. and the show is called realtime. and then about five years ago -- i don't know what they did to
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the audience but got rid of the groaners and made my life so much better. there are people who actually say to me now i miss the time when you would fight with the audience. well, maybe you do, but i don't. i was never one of those comics who could pretend, i'm sorry, i must have made a mistake there. no i didn't make a mistake. there's nothing wrong with tat joke, stop groaning. i must have said that 20 times on my show. then we shot here and when we came back we were allowed to have like half the audience because of social distancing. and, again, they just weeded out the people who were groaning and i would say in the last three, four years i've never had that problem again and it is such a pleasure. my audience who comes to my show now understands me. they think like me, they have open minds. they're not woke, they're
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generally liberal but they can be conservative, too. and we have a great time, and there's no groaning and i love it. and on the road it was always that way. people who pay, you know, a good penny with a hard ticket price to come see a standoff show they generally want you to be exactly who you are, so it was always pretty hard to get pretty far-out there. i could do it to get people to grown on the road. but, look, any comic in this era, anybody in this era can absolutely fall off the ledge at any moment. it just makes me laugh when people say to me, you know, you're uncancellable. are you kidding? two seconds i could get canceled, anybody could. >> who were the comedians that influenced you, that encouraged you to walk towards this path where you're not afraid to say what you think? >> carlin was the main one who did it in the area when i was growing up, and thinking about being a median when i was a kid.
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he was the guy when i was really little he was just suit and tie, short haircut doing funny stuff but not controversial. and then he had that big turn around around 1970 when i was 14, so this was very formative for me. i already knew i wanted to be a comedian, and so to see a guy do that, suddenly he had a long hair and he was wearing a t-shirt and he was challenging the establishment, and he was saying bold things. and he did that for the rest of his life. i didn't even always agree with it. he said some really weird things. he was not an environmentalist, for example, but he never pulled a punch. i remember one special his opening line and i can't say the word but it begins with "f." and he said "f" lance armstrong. this is before he was the biggest hero.
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this was before the fall. and just to say this was his opening line. he said don't tell me who my heroes are, don't dictate that to me, i love that. and i love lance armstrong. >> you must have met carlin a million times. >> i met him a few times. he was on my old show a couple times. it really once for him. i understood why. he had to share the stage with three other people, and they were not up to his intellectual caliber, so he didn't do that a lot. we were not contemporaries so i did not really know him at all, but i did speak at his memorial, and i was proud to be there. >> i hear a lot about comedians being afraid to perform in the new environment, but by the same token i see dave chappell is still doing very well. there's one thing i wanted to get your reaction to something because obviously chappell has been criticized a lot because of
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his making fun of the transgender community. this is what david cross says. david cross is a pretty edgy comedian. >> yes, great comedian. >> he says he's not talking about you certainly and not even talking about chappell necessarily in the quote but he said people making jokes making fun of transgender he said you're positioning this of this bull [ bleep ] voice of is that you cannot silence me. who gives -- just move on and not hurt hundreds of thousands of people. it's a choice people make. i thought that was an interesting quote. i guess the larger criticism of chappell from people like david cross is he's punching down. not like what carlin did, punching up. what do you think? >> i don't really agree. i mean, i think the trans community is asking for too much. again, the difference between liberal and woke. liberals are people who i think would say -- i certainly
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would -- trans is of course a real thing. some people they probably don't like this terminology but born in the wrong body. the equipment doesn't match how you feel, absolutely. and it's great we live in a time where people like that can freely live the lives they should live with all the dignity and protection of the law that we can afford them like anybody else in society. i think that's the liberal point of view. the woke point of view is something very different like, well, babies are born now and we don't know what they are. congratulations, you have a boy. well, let's not be hasty. there's a penis and could be indication of a male, but we'll find out later and we can always get rid of it. it's not wrong to have this discussion. this is something that's very new. to shutdown debate with these words like phobia, you're phobic and -- we don't hate. there's no hate. it's not phobic.
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we're not afraid. we're just discussing something very new that involves children and these interventions you're making has repercussions for the entire length of their lives and about their health which i think should come first. >> so i think if a trans activist were here right now they would say we're not afraid of having discussions and debate but you're talking about these issues at a time when states like idaho and florida and others are talking about banning these procedures regardless of what the kid and the parents and the doctor want, and that that's like a bigger issue than the term pregnant people. >> that's a term that went too far, to completely ban it. but i also don't agree with what you just said. they absolutely do want to shutdown debate. next on cnn prime time, he's given million dollar political donations in the past, so will bill maher open his wallet
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>> way you talk i wonder if you are going to be as involved politically in 2024 as you have been in it past. i remember you giving millions of dollars to help barack obama get elected. >> yeah, well, i gave a million dollars to obama. that absolutely happy i did that. >> 2012. >> it was the first year of the citizens united -- >> you gave it to priorities usa, which is a pro-obama super pac. >> correct. because i felt at the moment people had not gotten the memo that we're playing on a completely different field than we ever have before. anybody can give any amount of money and someone has to ring the bell here and say, look, we're at the million dollar level. i remember my manager saying, couldn't you just give 500,000?
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and i said, no. because the million dollars gets people's attention especially from somebody who's not a billionaire. you know, a million dollars hurt. you know, i wasn't driving an uber, but it hurt, okay? but i thought it was so important that the first black president get re-elected, almost more important than being elected. he could not be -- i mean a good president. >> so it wasn't about mitt romney. >> it was not about mitt romney. i mean, i wasn't a fan of mitt romney. but, no, it was about we have to make sure that the first black president gets a fair shake and gets re-elected otherwise people would have said, see we tried a black president, didn't work, and he was such the perfect first black president and i think one of our greatest presidents. >> thank you so much. you did a hell of a job in this office. >> so that was -- and then i gave -- chuck schumer came around in 2018 and said i think i can retake the senate if you give me a million dollars, i know you've done it before and i did it again. that one, it might want back
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because, first of all, it didn't work. yeah, of course every democratic politician is calling me up and saying you're the easy -- i think i'm done. >> are you going to get involved? i mean, do you think it's important for democrats to be in the white house or for the democrats to control the senate? what do you think of a republican led house? >> if it's trump running, the problem is i don't think money works anymore. i don't think it matters. i mean, trump beat hillary and he spent way less than she did. he just was smarter. he didn't saturate the airways with commercials like she did. and i think i've been in markets where i'm in a hotel for literally 18 hours and i see the same commercial 50 times. and i don't even know who this candidate is and i hate them. it can work the other way around. trump saved all his money and put on this great commercial, this hour long commercial like the day before the election that was very effective and people
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saw that. >> a lot of facebook ads. they did a lot of internet stuff. >> and yeah. and of course he was also this guy that america had come to think of as this genius businessman because he was on "the apprentice." and i can't even go into it. but look. if i thought a million dollars would stop donald trump from being president again, yes, i would get out my checkbook again. >> were you despondent when trump was elected? did you think, oh, my god, this isn't the country i thought it was? >> i was afraid for my own well-being. i thought it could wind up in guantanamo bay. i still could. he was ranting about me all last week again. he's obsessed sometime. i don't know, he went on a tear for about eight months when he was president. every time we'd have a rally i'd have a list three pages long of the things he's called me. >> bill maher, everybody know bill maher, for example? he's a radical left maniac with modest television ratings, modest.
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>> depressed nut job, low rating sleazebag, and he was doing it again last week. he doesn't like i'm on cnn. i don't know why that gets to him. >> oh, he's doing it now. >> yes. he doesn't like that. >> on truth social me does that. >> or in a rally. he doesn't like that fox quotes me. when fox quotes me. and of course fox will watch one of my shows. 90% of it might be material may hate, but they take out of it. >> they do the even liberal bill maher. that's what they do to you every time. >> you have to preface it by saying we hate this guy, he's awful and but he said one good thing. i don't know. i'm afraid of trump on a very personal level because i don't think he likes me. i understand why, and i don't know what he would do in the second term. he's obviously someone who does not know any boundaries and you have to worry when you see what
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other authoritarian rulers do to other countries and people. i'm not thinking he's going to become putin and start pushing people out windows but i'm not going to live on the 30th floor either. >> why do you think he obsesses about you so much? do you think he longs for your approval? >> i cannot get into his head. i just think he -- he's a media creature. he doesn't read. he only looks at television. every time he quotes me he says i was watching the show accidently. >> right. if he only stumbled on hbo. i don't know how that happened. >> he's not aware what a preposterous figure he is. ahead on this cnn prime time special -- >> you can believe in the spaghetti monster, you can believe in whatever god you want, whatever myth you want. we don't care. we just want to be left alone and not castigated. >> bill maher's take on religion and whether or not he considers
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>> god is super powerful. he can do anything. why doesn't he just obliterate the devil and therefore get rid of evil in the world. he will. what's he waiting for? >> i know you're not a religious guy. in fact, you're an aggressive atheist. >> no, not aggressive. i used it for comedy fodder certainly. i made one really good movie in my life called "religulouse," and we don't care. we don't care. you believe whatever you want to believe. you can believe in the spaghetti monster. you can believe in whatever god you want, whatever myth you want. we don't care. we want to be left alone, and
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the supreme court is now 6 1/2 catholics -- >> who is half? >> one of them is gorsuch is -- one of them is episcopalian, raised catholic. talk about diversity. how about diversity that really matters. diversity of thought. there are one or two people in the entire congress -- >> i think there are more than that. >> not that they will say. like says in the 1950 house, there were no gay people. >> of course. >> they just weren't out with it. >> i have a feeling obama is not a super christian like -- help used to say the first thing in the morning he had a scripture -- on his blackberry. and he said, my mother is a humanannist. >> yeah, i was raised catholic.
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i went through the rigamarole. i paid my dues, jake. >> agnosticism makes more sense to me. look, i have no idea. >> it's the same thing. >> atheism is there's nothing there. >> no, atheism, and theism is believe in a god. i don't know. >> that issin agnostic. and even richard dawkins, says on a scale of 1 to 7 and 7 is total certainty there is no god, it's a 6.9. we don't know. there are so many questions we can't answer. and i know that. i mean, of course we -- what an
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k atheist says -- >> if your dad is out there, watching this, i think he would be happy about you being on cnn. i think he would -- i think he would, as a news man. i would say -- >> you mean if he is watching? >> i don't know how it works. >> we don't know. >> we don't know, exactly. >> it's nice to think. >> a 6.9. >> it doesn't make sense to be like, we're here and we're not. it's poof, to me, it doesn't make sense. >> it seems to be the case. >> there is no evidence of the contrary. but if we use 10% of our brains -- >> when you're dead, your brain's gone. it's eaten by worms so i wouldn't count on that after the break, forget
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. >> you know not a week goes by without some one asks me to get into the pot business with them. don't get left we can make a fortune selling marijuana or wacky tabakkee. >> you're a connoiseur of weed? >> i think that's fair. >> what's the best weed you smoked? >> it was acapulco gold and i've never seen it is since. it was in college and it came in a brick like a brick. >> this was in new york? >> ithaca. >> you got a brick of acapulco
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gold. >> you know cornell that's how i got through cornell. i was selling it is. >> those were cold winters. >> yeah. i would never have gotten through college without that money wise. >> selling it you mean. >> yeah. i was ahead of my time because it's legal now but it was like pressed into this brick and it was gold. i've never pots like that and never and high like that and never seen it is again. anybody out there that turned me in the right direction i would appreciate it. >> it wasn't all smoke at the bar. i wanted to know his inspiration and was surprised by his answer. >> who is your hero? who is somebody you really admire and look up to. >> george washington. >> seriously?
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>> yes. why is that even a question? >> because it's and earnest answer. >> you know, he's semi canceled too. >> i didn't expect you if you had said rutherford b. hayes i would be surprised. i expected somebody in the world you know. >> oh. >> i would have been more surprised by bob hope than george washington. >> bob hope is not a good choice. >> that's what i'm saying. >> when i was a kid it wasn't george washington. it was johnny carson. i wanted to be johnny carson and james bond. >> why george washington? he was a great general. the willingness to only do two terms. >> first of all, keeping the country alive. he only fought when he was the general in the revolution.
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he fought nine battles and won three. he understood he's not going beat that british army. he just had to keep the army existing so he was always running away and also yes, then gave up the crown when he could have gone the other way. and also, he was so presents -- predictive, he said political parties will be the death of us. >> catch his post-show segment overtime which airs on cnn fridays 11:30 p.m. eastern. >> welcome to our viewers watching from around the world. ahead on cnn news room. thousands of people ordered to evacuate their homes in
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