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silicon valley bank and signature bank. president biden trying to convince americans that the system really is safe but the big question is, how much of this is about how much people even know about something, understand or maybe they feel about what is happening. how does psychology play into a bank run and how can we all be sure that our money is really safe? plus, do you know who is using facial recognition on you may be right now? no we're not doing it right now everyone. rest assured, but it could be happened more than you even realize. way to tell you who's using it and why. and this probably sounds like a joke what i'm gonna tell you. but really it is deadly serious. nick a government report said that some crash test dummies may not represent and i'm quoting here diverse groups of people. how could that have a real impact on your safety? well, it's not what you might think. we're gonna talk more about that.

here with me her economic expert run up the ruaha. karen finney, the bulwark's bill crystal, cnn's own phil mattingly and analyst kirsten powers. don't worry about me i know more about the economy either way on the way of pronouncing. 's run will start with you. i want to know what your take is. it's one thing to know something conceptually, intellectually. but our you know how you actually feel about, when you hear phrases like a run on the banks, people get very, very nervous. should they be? >> well, you know i love the fact that you are bringing psychology into this. it's something that doesn't get talked about enough. we hear a lot about the technical aspects of banking. i want to just say to the audience, if you have $250,000 or less in an account, your fdic insured and you are fine.

i want to just say to you, don't panic. but yes, psychology is a huge part of what happens in the financial markets, even in good times right? and especially in bad times. so there is no question, talking to the folks that i know in the markets that just seeing people starting to pull their money out is a trigger for more people to do that. you are seeing that already with some of the sell-off in other regional banks in the last day. >> there is that and, other bags might fail as well, that's one of the concerns. most people don't have the two banks have been saved in some way, but there might be others. are those going to follow? do >> you know, i'm not worried about this being kind of a lehman brothers moment or even a multiple bank collapse moment. i really am not. i keep my money in large institutions. i haven't moved it out, not planning to. i look at those institutions, the jpmorgan, chases, city

groups, and i think they were in a lot better shape they were before the financial crisis. i'm not worried about that. but i'll tell you, there is something that is real worry and his psychological as well. that's that most americans know that we have been in a period of very, very low interest rates and very easy credit for a long time. we kind of know that in our hearts and in our minds, and we know that that is going to change at some point. the economy does go up and down. we are do probably for something of a correction even more than we have seen at some point. i think people feel that and that gets to the psychological issue that you raised. >> well everyone here on the panel, phil against the president was very much interested in talking about how people are feeling, so that they know that it's safe. it reminds me a little bit of what happened before. you don't feel like things are happening, he's talking

buttered optimistically then. this time he wants that same level of optimism. he wants people to feel like the banks are safe. is he convincing in terms of the messaging do you think? >> i think there's a difference between state of the union political messaging bay versus the necessity for the systemwide compelling the saw from the president today. these were very intentional, deliver market remarks before the markets open, intended to reassure people. the psychological element of this is so critical. you can look across history terms of backgrounds and financial crises, and just how critical people are thinking, whether or not they are panicking, whether or not they're seeing other people and their friends pull money out, and how much that drives a crisis type moment. that's why he said the president when he said today, he doesn't want people to feel great about things, they're very cognizant the desert of difficult weekend and there's a lot of anxiety around the country. what he wanted to do is reassure people that the system is strong and stable and well capitalized, and that these two

bags are not representative of large of the system that is a very strong place particularly compared to 2000. eight >> you also reported to new treasury officials saying they're some positive signs. what about? that >> the size over the weekend was dramatic. i'm not sure people have their heads around what the fdic was willing to do. -- making a pretty implicit they would be willing to do it for other institutions. the federal reserve opening a landing window to the banks it got handle hammer today. they have options with this lending facility. what treasury officials i saw, there were two things that are our little bit deeper than the ban stocks today's. deposit outflows or critical. the big concern on friday heading into monday with these original, and smaller bags would see dramatic deposit outflows and will become in a crisis moment and start to fail. they saw availability to liquidity as these bags as they

got lit up by wall market wall street in the liquidity market, seas are good signs. >> what i think about all these good different ideas -- >> you walked right into the! >> no soup for you! just the idea here i hear about liquidity, i hear about wall street, i hear about what maybe most americans are not nationally feeling into. they're gonna think that the big banks aren't safe. if you have big investors in tech. they are not seeing themselves here. they themselves may feel afraid -- -- >> i think that's what a lot of people are feeling. everybody wants the government to russian to save all these wealthy people. people are say keeping $250,000 in the bank. some of them a lot of money off crypto, and keeping your money in this bank. we see the government run in,

and hours not even days to deal with the situation in a way that they don't win the entire housing market crashes because of the behavior of bankers and. people lose their homes, in their retirement accounts, and they're just left hanging. i think if you're the average person, they're thinking is the government gonna do this for me? >> i don't know. the truth is joe bank joe biden doesn't know if the bags are stable or not. he thinks the bags are stable. probably the bankers are not as stupid as the bankers were running this bank, who didn't understand interest rates. i mean i don't know anything about finances and i knew it was reagan go up. they invested in t-bones and it was dependent on interest rate staying law. they gambled the money they lost. >> one thing that could help confidence is that the -- he says you know what we all stand together at this point. we have to have confidence in our banking system.

president and secretary of the treasury and chairman of the fed have done the right thing. we'll debate later on whether we have to change regulations, but for now the banking system is safe in the president and congress stand united. even the leading candidates for president said the same thing. once upon a time this would've happened. in 2008, and the tea party revolt against the original bailout, at the end of the day speaker pelosi was with speak president bush and whoever the democratic senate majority leader was back then. >> john boehner. >> they all held hands in the senate will make this work, and there was a much more serious crisis and we made it through. so it's bad of one of the two major parties have so many misleading figures just demagoguing this incident. it's a terrible bailout. then voters look up and, or citizens look up and think they say maybe this isn't a good solution. we think it's absolutely the right solution at this. moment >> what do you think karen? >> think ron desantis is not gonna pass up any instance to

call anything woke and i agree. and the fact that they advertised on their website that they have an lgbtq person and an african american, that's not why that bank failed. [inaudible] >> even mary poppins had a bank that failed. >> i completely agree. it is really sad that there could not have been the unity, that's a state of where we are, and that's just the reality. the president did the best that he could to go out and reassure people. the other thing on the psychology's we have to remember we are also still in trauma from the pandemic and how that affected our finances and our lives. not just the ptsd from 2008. i think there is a real understanding of the need to try to make people feel as

confident as possible today. >> and i at the end of the day it's how people are feeling something, and see all damage, how do you feel about this? how do you feel now versus five years for now five years ago et cetera? mike great grandmother died at 105 never trusted the banks. there are other factors involved but -- >> she left he was $32 million. [laughter] >> in a mattress. >> if that was true i would not be at this table right now. the signs are pointing to a possible trump indictment in new york, but with all the investigations swirling around the former president, how does something as momentous as an indictment of a former president, how does it come from a years ago hush payment to a adult film star? we'll discuss that next.

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i'm just here to answer the questions. >> new york city mayor eric adams when to talk about in a moment what's going on there but this issue happened right in the heart of new york. this is something that we've been seeing for quite some time, not for sometime, but for years now. people knew about stormy daniels back in 2016. and norm, you and i've had these conversations before about the timing things. timing really is everything. we're talking about maybe public perception in the court of public opinion. why now this do you think? >> well laura, the two of us between us have spent almost half a century trying cases. and we know that it takes time to build a case. when you are building a case against a former president, doj was looking at this, michael cohen pled guilty. but there's a doj rule. i think it's wrong, but the office of legal counsel says you can't prosecute a former president. they -- >> a sitting president.

>> a sitting president. they couldn't even think about it until the end of the trump administration. so there is four years. then alvin bragg gets in. it takes some time for him, he thinks maybe i'll do, it may be a won't do it. the important thing is to look at the merits of the case. and i think the merits of this case are strong. there was a new york state books and records violation. they booked the hush money payments, trump signed checks, the trump organization those associated with him. they booked them as legal fees to michael cohen. these weren't legal fees, and that's what michael is undoubtedly explaining to this grand jury. so it is a righteous prosecution. >> but the law of that would be falsifying business records, and misdemeanor, and then you'd have to save its in conjunction with trying election law campaign finance law that's a

felony. you were saying righteous, is it because you maybe think it's righteous but not the right case? >> i just think it's ironic that is taken this law. and now we can compare that to an insurrection, trying to thwart an election in georgia. what else do we have? your oh yes, classified documents. the list goes on and on and on. it's also a reminder when you talk about how much time it took for this case to get to this moment where people feel like perhaps charges are imminent, think about how longer it'll take for these other cases, particularly because, you guys are, lawyers i'm not, but i would think if you are going to take on the former president, you want to be very buttoned up. you want to be make sure that your case is rock-solid, especially against somebody like trump. >> it's got to be more in that, though when you list all those aspects of the different cases. i think if people were to link

what they saw as the most important cases the, ones that have the most impact around the nation, i think they would probably collectively say and i don't want to speak for everyone, that the hush payments may be lower than the january 6th or classified documents. and for that reason, does it give political pause that this might becoming first? what do you think? >> absolutely. not even thinking of the legal things that donald trump has gotten caught up, just all of the things that donald trump has done, this is one of the least were things that he's done. there are just so many worst things that he did is a president, in terms of policies and things like that. my concern and i do refer to the lawyers, but my concern is that i don't really see it is a slam dunk, because i think you are relying first of all on a witness who openly hates the person that he is testifying against, who was known to lie about things. so i don't know if he's the most reliable. >> michael.

cohen >> yes michael cohen. and i think you have to get into it and intent type of thing, did he do it because he was concerned about the election or did he just not want this to come out? did he not want his wife to know that he cheated on her or something like that? it feels like it's hard to prove and it's not very high stakes. >> i don't want to be dismissive to your point norm. a violation of the law ought to be treated as anyone else who may violated that same law. we know that's not how our system works. people turn a blind eye more readily for some other than others. but the idea priorities and how this plays out in the court of public opinion. do you think that this case could be used if they do indict for trump to buttress his own arguments? saying see, they won't try anything. >> liberal democratic lydia coming after me. of course that's what he'll

say. yes, trump will say that. here's -- what to the other republicans say? they have to defend trump. desantis will say this is political prosecution. half of the country will believe that this is a political vendetta by the democrats. >> do you think the government out of florida will actually say that, kind of the way that he will say it's a political persecution? >> yes. i think every republican will say that because they have to win over voters who still like trump. when was the stormy daniels? think 2008 or something like that? right, and he pays are often october, 2016. that's something john edwards got off something different legally. i think it's the worst possible case to lead with, when he tried to overturn the election results and purposely stole classified documents and wouldn't get them back.

maybe the justice department to do something. norm's gonna chastise me after the show. [inaudible] he's only been out of office two years. we have to wait 5 to 12 years before we can have an actual justice of the united states -- >> number one let's wait and see what is in this indictment. we don't have all the evidence yet. number two, it is a very serious matter. i don't except for a moment that a few days before the election after the access hollywood scandal when this election was so close donald trump was involved in making hush money payments that my poll michael cohen went to jail for. this is a very serious matter. it could have changed the outcome of the 2016 election. that, let's not assume that there won't be more than alvin bragg does and other prosecutors do. you need to start somewhere.

last time i checked in the united states, the rule is this is the whole idea of america. we have the same law for everybody. if michael cohen would go to jail for doing this, any of us will go to jail for doing this, if these hush money payments could've changed who went into the white house and they could've changed history, it's absolutely right for alvin bragg to start there and let's see what's in his indictment. maybe have other financial crimes. >> right. on >> this is why norm is a very well-known lawyer. [inaudible] >> the attorneys made the case for the prosecution. i'm in my yellow blazer here just things look totally different. but i see you and i think it's important for us to all wait and see what happens. i want to know what happens to the time michael cohen went to prison. and now what's new, we'll have

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, new york city's mayor eric adams asking local businesses to use facial recognition technology as one way to battle shoplifting. the new york times reports that any business using the scanning has to post a sign alerting customers that it's actually the technology. but when we've set out to fine which businesses are actually scanning people's faces, she had a hard trump time finding them. back with laura funny, michael funnel and also back and kirsten powers. i just want to understand this conversation for everyone. there is the use now of this facial recognition technology that essentially tells people, look you are on i-list.

i can scan your faces you're coming in and of the officer building, it's a way of identifying people for theft. bad a square garden as a the, if you are lawyer suing them, you can't come in. it seems like it could be ripe for abuse. it's increasing the news now, and being called to be used in a way to aid law enforcement. what do you make of that? problems are a good idea? >> first of all, when i came on law enforcement 20 some years ago we still handwrote our reports. so i'm technology adverse. that being said, i was always skeptical of an overdependence of technology by police officers. i saw when we first thought about the tag readers, he was scandalous's plate readers in the city, officers became incredibly dependent upon that

to help with proactive enforcement. so i do have concerns about the idea of being too dependent on technology and also have the concerns on the idea that we would replace police officers with technology. to may, i've seen the benefits of these types of technology, but my concern would be that we become overly dependent on it. >> here's what the mayor had to say about the reasons why they were considering it. already two. he said, if you are habitual person who goes in the store over and over again, it should be identified with the technology. why wait until someone steals. there's some good software that can alert people right away to this person is a habitual stealer. of course, my media thought is how does get someone get put on this list? is it someone's been convicted of a crime already? it is somebody's been accused

in that particular store? it's in a way of engaging in a kind of technological profiling. what do you say? >> well, with all of these new technologies it's like with the artificial intelligence now, the a i, we have to figure out what are the reasonable parameters around how to use them. i'm very sympathetic, the representative of the america bodega owners, the these smaller said look we want this because we have a shoplifting program problem. my parents had a small business, but when mayor adams was talking about it, it almost seemed like a dystopian science fiction movie. what if they get people wrong? what if someone looks like a shoplifter? what if your twin is a shoplifter and you're just going into buy toilet paper? we have to think through the due process elements of how these new technologies are

going to work. i think it has to be studied and analyzed although i am sympathetic. >> to toilet paper reference, it was a plot of having -- somebody decide someone is probably gonna commit a crime raising all sorts of due process concerns and these issues. you have a strong opinion on this. the idea of being able to identify and predict criminal behavior is going to run up against a lot of issues. i go back against the idea of profiling. here's who i think is likely to commit a crime. i'm going to create maybe an algorithm, maybe there's a way of distinguishing people. but poses problems for the average person who's gonna be assumed to commit a crime. >> think about the stores the frequent. i go to sophora at least twice a week. if your clock and how many times come in and that's getting me and the video stream, trust me, i drop a lot of money

there. the other thing is that really disconcerting is that we know that these technologies tend to not be as accurate when it comes to african americans and asian americans. i've not seen anyone yet solve that problem. i see that is still a problem. so again, in terms of due process, in terms i agree over reliance. there is a responsibility to make sure it is accurate and make sure that while trying politically to say to your city as the mayor, i'm trying to do more things to keep everyone safe. which for political reason i understand why he would say that. but that you don't go too far in a different direction. >> on that point, the idea of being soft on crime as versus being hard on crime, this is very much in the political i. what you think of crime in that city, new york has been under a microscope for a long time. >> i think you can say the don't like crime and you want

to stop crime and also say that this makes you uncomfortable. two things i think, one for the bodega owner, what do they then do? are they gonna start confronted people to see matchup with this? everyone's gonna have security? and then what's gonna happen? another person's gonna say it's not me, then maybe of accuse somebody in front of all their neighbors of stealing when in fact they haven't stolen anything and it's just a mistake. that's one thing. the second thing is just the idea that the government has access to -- i don't understand how the stuff works technologically, but will mean it's all or vases are somehow recorded for something. >> thank you for raising a point because under new york law, you identify the recognition. not every human is recognizes. those who are on a particular list, or where those of men pointed out as a problem. then they are identified by the technology. if you are a problem funnel, i'd have a way to find you in

particular. >> away it'll never get out of control. [laughter] >> they've tried putting laws around it. there's a rule in new york saying you are supposed to have signs posted. everywhere >> and a 500 buck fine. the same reporter wandered all of manhattan and could not find -- there were many places that had a technology. she could not find very many signs. the rules have to be established. >> real quick. >> i think the big concern is how it is implemented. i see how it could be incredibly beneficial, a great tool in the tool box of it's used for collecting historical data for solving crimes. proactively, i think it creates much more problems that could potentially solve a resolve. >> speaking of the idea of being able to help solve crimes, our next segment is going to be a very interesting one. there was a murder case then went cold for more than two decades. and now a california man is

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the man convicted of killing college student kristen smart in 1996 was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison without parole just last week. that was due in part to my next guest. chris lambert didn't know kristen or her family. he's not a journalist, but his podcast in your own backyard launched in 2019 and it helped local authorities solve this murder. chris lambert joins me now.

chris, nice to see you, thanks so much for joining. i listened to your podcast, remember following what happened. many people were remembering kristen smart and seeing that led to this long to a sentencing of her killer. what made you follow this story? >> while, it was a story that was local to me. kristen disappeared about half an hour north of where i grew up with something to happen when i was very young and remember hearing than they would do updates on the news, checked in every few years or so. then the biggest portion was there's a big billboard in the town of oriole grand about 50 miles north of, me and it says missing, and i thought when i drive by, house that case not solved yet? i would check in time to time to see through updates, and it just seemed that there was nothing ever knew. >> you didn't just check in.

the actual sheriff's office gives you credit in part for helping to solve this case. tell me what help you provided. >> an issue ali i just started out trying to make a documentary podcast about what had happened already. i think by that point, it's been 22 or 23 years since she had supposedly disappeared. so i just wanted to document the story because it was such an interesting saga. they had awe suspects from almost day one in that it almost never changed. but nothing seemed to be getting down on that. i wanted to document the case, and by the time i ended up putting out episodes, it got such a large following so quickly the people started reaching out to me saying, i actually have information that i've never shared before. it provided a platform for people who had been holding on to information that they were hesitant to share with law enforcement to bring it to me. so i passed that information on ta'lon forsman in the hope that

they would follow up on it and they did. >> they absolutely did and it led to a man serving 25 years to life, and as you say it was one of the people who was initially a suspect, or initially someone who was in contact with her that very night of her disappearance. you actually had a friend interestingly enough who personally knew paul flores, the man who's convicted now for the murder and serving 25 years to life, that they knew from high school. what did she say about him? >> i started asking people if they remember the story in a lot of people had forgotten it. a lot of people didn't remember the details. a friend of mine who i know through other projects we step to me and said i actually went to school with paul flores and we all called him scary paul. i reached out to her and said tell me more. want to know everything you know about this guy. from there she would pass me on to a friend who had more experiences with paul. they would pass me on to

another. pretty soon there were a circle of people communicating say you need to talk to this person, i need to talk to this person, they have more information. >> you actually interviewed many members of her own family and as i understand they have been very happy, if that's the word they can be used in the circumstances, that you were able to shine a light and re-introduce this very important case to the world. what had they told you about how they felt all these years not having this solved and no conviction. one of they said about this now? >> i think for many years they felt like this case wasn't taken seriously from the very beginning, law enforcement was slow to respond. they blamed kristen for her own behavior that night. for the way she was dressed, for how much she might have drag that the party she was last seen at. for a long time it seem that

she was not taken as a serious missing person case. then after that, the media coverage slowed. the progress on the case seemed to slow, and when the podcast came along as sort of gave kristen a voice again. it reignited the story that was starting to disappear from the community, and suddenly people were remembering kirsten in a way they had never known. our friends of hers were telling stories about her and so much so that i felt i've gotten over myself. >> so important work the you've done to help. thank you so much and of course her tragic death also lead to greater coordination down the road between college campuses and local law enforcement. how to deal with someone who's been missing. so her story continues to impact so many people. thank you so much chris. >> thanks for having me. >> my panel is back with me. i want to get your reaction quickly to this michael, because the idea of we're seeing more and more coal cases go cold for variety racing. we have a finite amount of

resources that could be devoted to so many cases. what does this mean to you we have people like podcasters for example, who are helping to be the liaison between community and lay law enforcement? >> at face value, and i don't know the specifics of this particular case, but it looks like me a best-case in area. you have a situation where looks like there was cooperation between this investigator and law enforcement, and that that resulted in the successful prosecution and conviction of this individual. i'm willing to bet that for each case like this, there are probably a dozen more in which the influence of or involvement of outside investigators may have had an adverse result. when you have individuals, civilians for lack of a better term get involved in these

types of investigations, you don't follow the same protocols. chain of custody. no they don't understand the rules of gathering evidence. and so i think that is concerning. law enforcement does not have the resources to dedicate the appropriate amount of attention to every single awful crime that's committed in this country. that is no fault of law enforcements. but at the same time, i think that law enforcement is best suited to handle those tasks. these things are great to bring attention to coal cases or cases that may have fallen by the wayside, but i think it's probably best to leave the investigating to law enforcement. >> well, you know i know you're in the right place but tell that to the families to the people who are missing. i hope they're lot more people get their best case in areas as well. broadcast, shine a light, hope it works out. everyone, we are up next they

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population. for example, the average adult male is now 20 pounds heavier than the 171 pound dummy. it's true. for women who are more likely to suffer injuries to their lower legs apparently, the crash test dummies have no sensors there for whatever reason. in some of these tests, the female dummy is not even placed in the driver seat. what is that about i wonder? does this make you less safe on the road? when i 1st saw the headline, i'm going to admit, i thought what is this about? the idea of crash test dummies being more diverse.my assumption was thinking they might raise in some way. in reality you're talking about physiological features and the idea of how to make the body actually withstand the harsh accident that can happen what do you think? >> i'm sorry that i am no longer the weight of the average crash test dummy. >> we are not talking about weight on the show!

i'm putting a stop to that right now! you very much! it's girl scout cookie season. >> i had a box to power up for this show! this is common sense. we were talking before about trying to figure out what is common sense on the facial recognition. now we know. the crash test dummies you have to be adjusted for the weight of average americans. we do need to have those sensors. it's just common sense. we know the technology that we need the department of transportation needs to adapt the crash test dummy program. >> does this suggest that there are a number of things that we take for granted about safety as a matter of inertia? that it's always been this way, it would continue to be this way and the methodology we use is just going to be okay? are we not taking enough time

to reflect on the things that are part of the status sure enod for example there was a movement to get, to come to fruition to have that research done on women. and to track it more effectively. sometimes whether it is health or safety, it is common sense. hey, if we are a little heavier, i'm not going to talk about weight. but for a little heavier, shorter, taller. i'd like to know that my sensors will pick that up in my car. >> it seems performative then. the idea of trying to have these things we all remember and see from commercials that we get hung up on the performative almost visual soundbite. the idea of if it's not going to be effective, not taking into consideration all the things that will keep us safe.

as performative. >> i don't think they're doing it in a performative way. i think they're doing it in a way to test safety but for some reason that they are considering, when they're doing their tests. when they're doing the tests only on whiteman to not just men, white men. we say common sense but it's like what is wrong with people? you don't think that women are people? or people that are not white or people will connect. this is the responsibility is to take care of everybody. it's not the responsibility to just test how things affect whiteman basically.>> believe that their everyone. bummer president trump going after florida governor rhonda santos we will take era look at ite next. >> ething meaningful.

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