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fears of banking collapse is spreading now beyond the borders of the united states. the anxiety coming after credit swiss stock crashed 30% today. the biggest shareholder appeared to rule out any more funding for the embattled lender, but just moments ago it confirmed that will borrow more than 50 billion dollars from the swiss national bank. cnn's marc stewart joins me now. mark, i'm so glad that you're here. look, a lot of people are nervous about these bank failures that they could spread. i'm wondering is the fear now spreading worldwide? >> i'll, or it's always good to see. the answer to your question is yes. it already is lunchtime here
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where i am in japan, and markets across asia are having a really rough day, most likely because of all of the concerns about banks debility. if we look at what drives us and our money, what drives investors, there are really two things at play. number one is greed, which speaks for itself. number two, as you mentioned, it is fear and the fear is palpable. if you go to cnn.com you have the fear and greed index and we use data to calculate what people are thinking. right now, extreme fear. last month, it was agreed. one year ago at this time were climbing out of the pandemic, it was fear. but let me put some caution in all of this especially with these banking concerns. if there is any kind of morphs of good news, anything that can give people hope, perhaps as you mentioned, the swiss government may be providing
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some closed to credit sweeps. that can cause a shift, not only in this index, but in markets worldwide. >> so what are the chances of a larger system banking problem? >> i think that's the question that everybody is asking and one thing to remember is that a lot of lessons were learned after the 2008 financial crisis when we saw some really big names collapse. since that time, a lot of safeguards have been put in place, and in recent years we've not seen any banks collapse big elves to cool, or one of the big obstacles right now, is inflation you feel it with higher credit card bills, auto loans, while banks feeler two in the way they do business. it costs the more, it makes things much more difficult to balance the books and make their money grow in till inflation is really handled, there is going to be some threats and some risks and banks certainly are feeling them, laura. >> mark, thank you so much it's, a really interesting
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conversation. that fear index especially, i want to look at that more. we'll bring in my guests here, former george w. bush advisor peter waiter, also john hart, -- democratic strategist, and -- james nash. let me begin with you paul, as we know, people are talking about the fear index and what is going, on about really, the gop is seizing on this economic news in some capacity, but they have the biden ministration trying to calm some tears and saying look everyone, it is okay, everything is safe. how does this play out politically? >> well, the republicans seem to believe that if they blame wokeism, and they blame it for everything, i tore my knee recently. it was wokeism, it's a balcony. it is preposterous. i think that we need to find out what this bank did wrong, we need to dig into it. i think the president has done a very good job, and by the way gotten some praised by
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republicans, i don't want to smear all of them, patrick mchenry has said that biden has gotten about right. he wanted to protect depositors, but you don't want to bail out investors. and that is, right now, what our country is doing. it seems to me that politically, that is -- the dirty spur ordered in the political languages bailout. but most of us are deposited somewhere and we won't be protected, we just want investors to be bailed out for bad decisions. >> money makes the world go round, it certainly impacts washington, and the conversations a round monero about the bank. they are also centering around ukraine policy as, well and the idea what level of support, the duration of support, the amount of support, and what form it takes. there is some tension now growing among the republican party about how to do that. listen to this, there was this growing backlash against governor ron desantis now about the comments that he has made recently and just today, former vice president mike pence weighed in on all of it.
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listen to what he had to say. >> look, the war going on in ukraine right now is not a territorial dispute, it is the result of an unprovoked war of aggression by russia. continuing to provide the ukrainian military the resources necessary to repel that russian invasion. >> i know that no group is the mandalas, about who do you think is more in line with the feeling to the base? desantis or pence? >> i think pence. that's gonna be the big question, there is a shadow primary happening in the gop between what i call the reagan isn't going and the trumpism weighing. reagan does not just appeal to the 19 80s figure, it is way of thinking about conservatism. and republicans and conservatives have not been in favor of russian aggression.
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i think that, what desantis is trying to do is balance these factions between the reagan faction, and he is really a reagan-ites at heart, -- >> desantis? >> desantis is, but more likely it will pull apart as a candidate, because it hurts is brand and he's trying to run as an outsider as all politicians try to do these days and desantis sounds like a politician. he's trying to play all sides of this, where is pence and haley have a more consistent, and coherent message. i do not think it's gonna work well for him. >> you mentioned the idea of pretending to be a trump, or you have great piece out and i want to quote part of it in your atlantic headline. you say that vengeance is trump's -- former president is threatening refuge in and what we need is forbearance. i'm gonna go, on it says that's trusted trump era began we have seen a particular toxic mix of passions on the, right fear, desperation, anger, and
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ignition. there's a betrayal and victimhood, all of which cry out for vengeance. whether the nominee is desantis, who bills and self as a god given protector and a fighter, or trump, or someone else, the maga wing of the republican party will demand that the leader of the gop seek vengeance in its name. donald trump has energized a movement and propaganda infrastructure that will outlast him. you certainly do not mince words, peter. explain why you think vengeance might be part of the campaign trail now? >> because it is central to trump and it is a mega-fied party. these sensibilities exist before trump came, but he was supervision capping into, them and then amplifying it. look trump is not a figure that could be and understood in terms of the public paro policy, he didn't have any. he is no interest in the eight decide of politics, he is a visceral politician. and he embodies what i think are these resentments and
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grievances, and unfortunately i think that they have grown since trump has left. trump is less powerful and less influential and less popular in the party that he was. that was inevitable once he left office, but he is still more powerful than anybody else. i do think, if you look at the, polls it is trump and desantis and they have that same temperament, that same approach. i think desantis is going to do that he's going to try to out-play trump by using the power of the government to prosecute the culture wars, so i think that the republican party is still in a very bad place and when you're driven by vengeance, that is dangerous thing for a party in a country. >> interesting enough, trump's doctors that desantis is copying him when it comes to ukraine. remind people, it is not formally announced that he is running for the presidency, and yet everyone thinks that the governor of florida really is. i want to play for you what
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republican senators are saying about governor desantis has come meant on ukraine and they're not siding with him. listen to this. >> the majority are about the opinion on senator publicans is at the united states has a vital national security interests there for stopping a progression. >> this is a much bigger issue than a territorial dispute. >> i believe very much is in the interest of america to honor our award. >> i cannot imagine what jinping or the leadership in iran would think if we took that course of action. >> to say this doesn't matter to say that war crimes don't matter. >> i personally believe that i'd rather help ukraine win the war quickly then help them win them slowly or perhaps lose it slowly. >> so james we have not heard this kind of approach to desantis, if ever, as certainly not now. is there something other seasonal on his way to signal that you are not the guy, to? >> this is a real debut on the national stage talking about foreign policy and, i had to say, but he has stepped in it.
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i think most americans, regardless what you think about whether the united states should be providing economic or military assistance to ukraine, know that this was a one-sided, and unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country, it's not a territorial dispute. those words are gonna come back and haunt him. the dispute in the republican party right now is do we spend the kind of money that we've been spending on military aid to ukraine, not whether putin is the right foreign leader to emulate or implicitly praise. so i think that desantis is going to come back and regret these words. >> that's fascinating because, if he is winning with the culture wars and the philosophical disputes that are happening, he talked about the philosophical as opposed to the brass tacks and this particular incident, i wonder how will all happen in the end. stick around everyone were waiting a decision in a texas case that could undo the fda's approval of a widely used
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the trump appointed judge in texas is on the verge of making what maybe the most consequential ruling since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade. we are waiting to hear back if he will block the fda's approval of the abortion pill, which would limit abortion access, even in states where it is still legal. i want to bring in doctor sarah iversheim, she is a board certified of july and. doctor, thank you for being here today, for a lot of people looking at this more broadly we know that this one drug, part of the two drug regiment. the focus legally has been on the first one, not the, other and i would wonder, explain to us how this works and how this may impact, if you were to remove access to, won as part of a two drug regiment.
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tell me about that. >> thank you for the opportunity to address your viewers today and dispel some in formation. medication is chosen by over half the -- there are two drugs, the first one that we're talking about banning is mifepristone, and that pregnancy to stop growing. the second medication, misoprostol, has other medical implications as well as helping mifepristone work by expelling the contents of the uterus. working together, it is a very, very safe method to end a pregnancy and preferred by more than half the women who seek to end a pregnancy. in part of this marriage management. 10% or more of pregnancy and by miscarriage, and that is aided by the use of both medications.
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miscarriage management is safer with less blood, loss left, pain and less blood the cost. it's also safer, no wonder patients choose to use the two medications together. using second medication, thank you, alone is still a safe way to end the pregnancy and women who want to terminate a pregnancy will find a way to do it. it is just a little less effective, it takes longer, it hurts more, but it is still a very safe way to end a pregnancy, the misoprostol alone. >> just thinking about that, it would be a more burden to them, to use the language the courts. even with roe v. wade, he before it was overturned, do use the one or the two as it is intended by the fda. this legal aid they're asking the court to issue a preliminary junction that would
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essentially force the fda, which approved those 20 years, ago more than 20 years ago at this point in time as a safe way to actually have a medication abortion to then withdraw their approval of this first drug, mifepristone, as this whole thing plays out. have you ever heard of anything like this in your work that you are doing, what you're thinking on a daily basis or in your own practice that the drugs that you would normally prescribe, that have been in use for 20 years, might have a legal challenge based on the fda's approval being taken away? >> you bring up an excellent point. it is absurd to consider that a judge would make a decision that 20 years of safety and safety used any united states have a proven, and longer than, that around the world. it's a, it is foolish. and it harms people, it harms the pregnant people, it harms people with wanted pregnancies that are miscarrying, it harms,
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and punishes pregnant people. >> is, and your experience, you are an ob/gyn and you talk about miscarriage management for an example, is this drug which is being challenged now, is it safe in your experience? >> thank you for asking that important question. mifepristone is very safe. in fact, if i take it as a menopausal woman or you take it and you are not pregnant or a child takes it or mandates it, nothing happens. it is really a harmless medication, except for people who are miscarrying or pregnant and want and that pregnancy. it is a very safe medication. >> thank you doctor, it's important have your insight, i appreciate it, we'll be back right back everyone in just a moment. thank you.
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aren't we are out of the darkness retreat and now the decision that he thought he might have made. i'm talking about the green bay packers quarterback aaron rodgers announcing today that he is not retiring. he is also not playing with green bay anymore, it seems likely. >> so i went to the doctors to contemplate love thing, but one day i spent entirely on reality that i was retired, and the other i spent on the reality that i was going back complying. i thought without for hours an hours, with that look like, what reality is, how it felt. on that tuesday i wanted to play. and then, it was how is my body
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feeling, is it going to hold up? at this point, as i said, here i think since friday i made it clear that my intention was to play and my intention was to play for the new york jets. >> why you might ask? because the green bay packers wants to quote move on from him. back with me now is -- elliott william and paul -- were also joined by the former nfl receiver donté stallworth. part of me feels a gun between my home state of minnesota by folks in this long on a green bay packer. i'll go to you dante on this issue. he's won the most well-known players in the league, but it reminds me of another green bay packer quarterback, brett favre, who also talked about the jets. it was not a darkness retreat, but the idea that he is doing this now. tell me why you think this is happening. >> i think he was seriously contemplating retiring and when you are in nfl player,, when you're at that moment when you're contemplating retirement, it is a tough situation because
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if you do not retire, that's still going to linger for the next -- that entire taxes and for as long as you play. so the fact that he took the time to do that and he said that he went in 90% of strongly believing that he was going to retire, and you saw him kind of dejected, torquing of that field in the last game when he missed the playoffs, leading to the lions, but i really think that aaron is rejuvenated, he feels like this is a second chance, the jets are young, they have great defense, they've got a lot of good players on that team, their playoff ready, and all that need it with a quarterback. enter aaron rodgers. >> i wonder if part of the appeal, and i hope to hear your thoughts on this dante, part of the appeal is being the guy who comes in and saves the hapless franchise. in long-standing woes of new york jets, and it could be the guy that comes in, rides into town, the hero quarterback after the end of the korean and save the jets. >> can we talk about what this
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darkness retreat was? >> i love the football game as well but we don't about this. what is a darkness retreat? i've got some images, i know you guys think alike. here's what it looks like, people, if you're really wondering right now. the darkness retreat is not a luxurious place. it is not, i mean this is an image of a type of forum that he may have stayed in, but he said that it gave him some clarity. let's judge this now. how do we feel about this? >> he is somebody with millions of dollars, world famous, and he needs to disappear to think through his thoughts. why? you know needs to disappear? working moms. give us four days without any electronics, somebody brings us one cooked meal, we'll take over the world if you give us that kind of rejuvenation and energy and he had dudes that make a decision about joining a football team. i will say that he has apparently done meditation and yoga retreats before and he's
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disappeared into the mountain, so maybe this is just the next level of getting centered and in touch with himself. here's what he had to say >> we'll hear what aaron rodgers had to say about talking about that, retreat and what it was like. >> it is so quiet, you're just listening to that door handle to come up and you like finally it's 6:00 i can eat. but there's not a lot of sounds and there, that is why the meditation is incredible. there is zero destruction, zero light, your eyes do not adjust to see you cannot even see far into the room. you have some hallucinations at some point where the room looks different than it actually does and you really have got to walk around one handed out over here, so you're not bumping into stuff. but yeah, i'm glad i did it. >> laura, next time i have a big job decision i need to make i'm just gonna turn off the lights, close the door, how did my blanket and you'll see me in four days. >> that's called a saturday, it's binge-watching for me. we joke and good, but i'm
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really just jealous because i'd love to have some silence now and then. paula may ask about another big story will get all of this because the jealousy is coming in. it has to do with the nba. a totally different sport and different lead. and with john morant. he has been suspended now, as you know, for eight games. after he has been seen is to graham live video holding a gun in a nightclub. now, this is separate from an earlier incident that he was being discussed about in terms of interaction with a teenager at a pickup game. but tell me about your reaction to this. is the punishment searching for you? >> i don't know the fox. yet he does have a right to due process, it's not a criminal charge at all. but even within his employment they have to take a look and see, i do think that it is particularly upsetting and shocking images have too much of gun violence in the country. and it should not surprise me that this leads over into sports which for me is, that is my -- that is where i go and watch guys like daunte. i hate that it bleed over into, that but that is our society.
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and i say, this i'm a gun owner and 100. there are too many guns. and so when young man like john morant allegedly are playing around in a gun in an instagram video, people are way too casual with deadly instruments and that is what a gun is. >> i guess the question is does the nba actually care about gun violence? i guess you say they do, or is this about the bottom line. are people going to start getting spooked and, you know, at the end of the day, these are profit making enterprises, so i think you're with me on this point. and to a certain extent, it was in the nba's interest to take a stand on it, but i do think that, i do question -- >> he's 24 years old, which is really young to be the face of the league at this point. so, there is a sense of responsibility that the nba now feels that they have propped him up. >> look at alabama right, now,
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sports are no longer escapism in the piers and because we also have a college athlete now. embroiled in a kind of conversation, not criminal charges again, about the idea that he brought a gun to a scene that was ultimately used to kill someone. this is a fact of the question cannot began, what are the priorities? he still playing, he was number one seed, what's your take? >> you know, i think positive perfectly, the gun culture in this country, sports is not immune to the gun culture, nor is any other facet of our society. it's just in our dna for centuries. >> the gun culture is obviously the big problem, but for him to play, i do not know how he's playing mentally, i think he's really just trying to remove himself from the situation, so it's obviously a terrible situation but for him to try to remove himself, get out there and play on the field, now he's got security. >> he's got armed guards that need to follow now. he's 18 years old, and so, the fact that he is playing, and
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the fact that he has got to have security, i think that has got to be, for, him just aside from the tragedy that happened that night, i think it is really difficult for him to have to focus knowing that he's getting all these death threats. you know they wouldn't have that if it was not just mere death threats. these are specific death threats. there is a lot going on those tournaments. >> this is how young the industry is the, right? there is no room for of a steak and the type of celebrity and investment that has been put on the backs of young black man absent any training or social explanation or guidance. it does a lot of responsibility and if their starting freshman ear of college with this now. >> they are, but he is a young man who is alleged to have been involved. this isn't waving a gun around on an instagram video, this is real world, somebody is killed. >> it smacks of cases that i've
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worked on, and what you've got these young man who, the crime takes place, a guy is affiliated with the victim or whatever else, and that kid is done. the mere fact that he is now a witness to a homicide, folks are going to be after him for a very long time. >> have there been allegations that he is a participant? i don't think there have. >> to be clear, he is not been criminally charged at all in this matter. a woman's life was lost, but the allegations are going over round whether he returned illegal firearm to his owner, and that owner was ultimately involved in using it. that is the crux of the allegation. it does not stop the fact that this is circling around. >> even if he had nothing to do with it, the fact that some other guy thinks that he might have, and puts his life in peril for a long time. you see it all the time, and we can debate an hour about the sort of toxic issues that lead
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us to this point, -- >> we don't have an hour, let's go to break everyone. we are so close to having that full hour to talk about, it's an important issue. it will stay with the story. up next everyone, the dangers of -- a school district says that the house school student, while several, them make deepfake videos including one of a principal seeming to go on a racist rant scaring parents and also students. we will talk about it next. today we unite witith the elements that have alwaysys been at our core. as every action counts, we are committed to building vehicles that conontain an average of 40% recycled materials.. repurposing waste, such as oldld fishing nets. and, going all electric by 2030. land. sea. air. join us on our journey to a more sustainable future.
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seeming to go on a racist rant and there were more videos. some with what seemed to be threats to black and latino students. cnn's -- spoke to the school district for comment we have not heard back so far. at the board of education to depose the statement on the website saying, in part, as an organization committed to diversity and inclusion the caramel central school district board of education is appalled at and condemns these recent videos, along with a blatant racism, hatred, and disregard for humanity displayed in some of them. or it's in a statement alone feel inadequate, we must go beyond words, collectively we must work and racism. joining me now is abigail santana who is a parent of a ten year old in that caramel central school district. abigail, thank you for joining me. i too have a ten year old, we are sisters in spirit and that notion with what that is like. but i cannot imagine what it was like to have even heard about this happening and to be
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perhaps confused as to whether it was real or not. what did you think when you first learned about this? >> when i first learned about it i was actually at work and i was sent to the video, maybe less than 30 minutes from that email that was sent out from the school board. i literally was in shock, i immediately called the superintendent right away when i saw that video because, what they wrote in the email did not stay the threats that the video had in there. it just said the racism and it was taken care of. but no one knew that there was threats made to our children in the school district. >> trying to explain some people what a deepfake is, it takes some understanding of what it, is a little on trying to extra scribe to a child whether it is real or not, and a deepfake by its nature's somebody using words for somebody else's body like a ventriloquist, essentially.
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but does he understand that it was fake? he is scared to school as a result of >> yes, my child understands that it's not real. it wasn't the principal who sat. but the fear is still there, unfortunately. because those words, and the things that were said -- it's hateful. and it's honestly very disturbing. for anyone to hear or listen. >> describe to me a little bit about what was contained in those videos, because even if it wasn't from the principle, the fact that those thoughts were out there, that students in the district that your daughter attends believe that to be somehow appropriate, or fun, in some way -- tell me what she saw. >> the video my daughter actually saw was a video game of her school, completely out of whatever middle school looks
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like, with an active shooter inside, shooting at students inside the classrooms that look like the classroom she sits at. the video that i saw when i was at where was the video of the principal with the teens voice-over stating the and word, and that they thought they should go back to nigeria, and that they were gonna bring their machine gun and shoot all the and words in the school. another video that i saw -- kkk is, and that they were gonna lynch all the blacks and hispanics, and that the kkk legacy will live on. that's tough to hear in such a town that things like that happen. >> abigail, unbelievable to think about that. again, a ten year old exposed to this. we all saw -- just reading that first note compared to what you just described, some parents
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probably did not follow up or we're aware of it. that's a huge disconnect. i really wish you the best. thank you for telling me about what happened. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> back with the panel now, we're talking about this conceptual deepfake. the whole weeks, months, we've been talking about artificial intelligence, and the beauty of it. we played around with creating cover letters and calling people's parents, pretending to be that person. but there's always been this looming threat -- the sinister side of a i, what can really be done. let me orient this conversation a little more. i want to play for you with a really good deepfake. it's not really tom cruise, but listen to this. tell me if you're surprised. >> well -- every now and then, i like to treat myself. and it's good, because discipline -- oh.
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oh my god. i think this bubble gum inside this. well. that's incredible! incredible! how come no one ever told me this bubble income? incredible! oh, yeah. >> okay, i repeat ten times over. that's a deepfake. that was not tom cruise. that was a deepfake. but it's a good one. and it shows you how i can be made fun. it also shows you the idea -- what if this were to happen with someone in a position of power? not talking about, you, know this bubble gum inside the -- this could be far more dangerous. >> yeah. you, know it's been five years since jordan peele did of deepfake barack obama. it is very convincing, and was also warning to all of this about the technology we're dealing with here, and the uses that can be put to. very destructive uses, as we're seeing here in new york.
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but imagine this international political stage. if ronald reagan could almost start a nuclear war with a hot mic moment, imagine a deepfake video of president biden threatening war against russia. i mention any political candidate, you know, in a deepfake video saying something they didn't say. >> we are equipped, i think -- that's the beauty of a deepfake. and the problem with that. >> you know, this is what technology has done, with technology can fix. if you go to post -- social media now and try to push the less -- the latest episode of the last of us -- >> no spoilers. >> just by lies! it won't last a second. embedded in all those programs technology that spots commercial staffing kills it right away. they could do this with the fix tomorrow, but there's no money in it for the tech companies. either they do it, the government should force them. it's not hard to fix. if they can do it for the white lotus and the last of us, they can do it for these deepfakes.
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and i think -- obviously, i think they should. if a ten-year-old kid can do this, what is north korea nick gonna do? and iran? and china? russia? what are others gonna -- dr. fauci a deepfake, saying don't get the vaccine. it will hurt you. you know, the potential for evil here is so great. and the responsibility of these tech companies is so vast. and they seem to not exercise. >> that's the point. the responsibility has to be navigated and understood. and right now, we have a senate where the average age is 49 years old, and we've seen senators grill the wrong ceo about the wrong tech company. right? this is the state of government oversight and regulation, in an emerging industry where ten-year-olds are better able to navigate it in the people we put in charge. >> unbelievably scary, everyone. we'll be right back in just a moment. wow.
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reached the lowest amount of sea ice for the second straight year in a row. that doesn't mean anything to us living up here in the rest of the world, down there, it means the penguins and the seals and the whales are already being forced to adapt to a changing world. we want to -- want to assure the first time surrounding by these penguin colonies. the funding them further south than ever before as the peninsula warms up. the nests were delayed by a couple months due to freak snowstorms. the littlest chicks we saw, beside couples building those nests, that generation probably won't survive the winter. then, as the sea ice goes away, that's the bottom of the food chain. that's where creole hangs out. the little crustaceans that feed everything from the penguins to the whales. so ecologists are worried about the future, with all these pressures adding up at the same time. we were with whale scientists who are taking pregnancy tests of these magnificent creatures from's ideographs with the prop -- across by that would shoot the
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starts to measure not just whether they're pregnant, but the stress levels, and putting together a data set to see the health of the ecosystem down south. and these magnificent big creatures, or finding more and more every year about how valuable they are to healing the earth, the fertilizing oceans, bringing back fish stocks, and -- there is a success story at the bottom of the world. the whales, the penguins, a lot of the seals, elephant seals or decimated a couple that generations ago by industry. but after the antarctic treaty, a lot of those creatures have come back to full strength. no longer healthy populations -- the ozone layer above antarctica is -- treaty arrangement with the land but says aside for peace and science at the bottom of the world. so you could find hope there if you focus on that. but, the warming is sort of baked-in. long term, we have to worry about the same warm water that's disturbing these penguin colonies. it's also disturbing the bottom
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of these ice shelves. it's keeping all that fresh water locked on land down under. and if it's released, that means coastal cities around the world will be forcibly rearranged. the hope is that we can control just how much that happens, how fast it happens with a transition of a feels that burn. that's what scientists have been calling now for generations. and when we are down there, there is actually an ocean treaty that passed in the u.n.. as more nations try to protect the high seas, where so much pollution is evident, with plastic pollution, noise pollution for the animals, ghost nets that are floating around out there. a lot to think about with the health of the planet. when you take it from the perspective of down below. but i wish i could share with everybody. when you see how beautiful, how much amazing life is left, and makes you want to work for it even more. lauren? >> thank you so much, bill. you really paint a picture. i think all of you also for watching.
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