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hill. >> i'm jim sciutto. the moment of impact, remarkable new video shows a russian fighter jet as it forced down a u.s. drone over, we should note, international waters. all of this played out just south of ukraine. 48 hours ago. video proof russia didn't tell the truth about this. i'm going to walk you through what we learned from the new video just ahead. also today, janet yellen with a direct message to americans, your money, your bank deposits are safe. she is set to testify on the hill next hour. this, of course, as bank failures here in the u.s. in an unrelated and ill timed bank issue in europe is spooking so many. so this morning what you need to know. if the banking news feels like a lot, how about a little distraction? how about a little march madness.
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if your bracket isn't locked in, you are running out of time. but we have the guy to help you make the final decisions later this hour. we begin this hour with the incredibly newly declassified video showing the moments a pair of russian su-27 fighter jets forced down that u.s. mq9 reaper drone. i'm told the u.s. military was able to extract the video in the last 24 hours after the first video they were able to get was less conclusive. this video you're seeing from the camera of the drone, pointed backwards from the tail. we want to break it down for you frame by frame. this still image points to the tips of propel lar of the u.s. drone. you can see at this moment they are not damaged. but when the camera came back online after a brief interruption. you can see the damage. damaged propeller from a
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physical collision with the russian jet. another image shows when the video feed from the reaper drone became disrupted just as the russian jet collided with it. on tuesday the russian defense ministry said the russian aircraft did not use on board weapons, did not come into contact with the unmanned aerial vehicle and returned safely to their home airfield. this video clearly presents evidence to the contrary. the clearest most damaging evidence that the fighter jets did collide physically with the drone and bringing it down in the waters of the black sea. joining us to speak about this, retired colonel sed trick layton. general milly did say this was part of the pattern with russian pilots acting more aggressively. they did not establish that the
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pilot was trying to crash into the drone as opposed to just buzz it. >> the real problem with the behavior is it's dangerous. it's going to affect the ability of all nations to fly safely in areas around ukraine or the chinese coast. as you know from your own experience, jim, these kinds of missions are unmanned and manned. and when an unmanned mission like this one is impacted, the impact is not as great as if it were a crewed aircraft p but the fact is the damage done to the aircraft and the fact it had to be ditched in the black sea, means not only do we lose resources but also a lack of transparency because the intelligence and surveillance mission of this drone could not be completed. >> speaking of transparency, now that we have this video, as jim
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ticked through each of the flames this contradicts what russia had said in the wake of the incident, perhaps not surprising to a lot of folks. does that change anything at this point? >> what it does is it kind of shows that the russians aren't telling the truth and illustrates every time something like this happens for those of us who have been in this business for quite some time we know the russians do this but it's important for everyone watching this to really understand when russia makes pronouncements they're giving you half truths or no truth. this is critical because the believability part of this becomes important when it comes to the war in ukraine, relations with russia. and key when it comes to the specific missions as well. >> of course happens in the midst of a big lie from russia, the war in ukraine, which russia
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invaded but claims it was not its fault. i want to ask you because you note these are dangerous encounters and there are crewed and uncrewed surveillance missions. how do the u.s. and allies reduce the possibilities of such encounters leading to escalation? >> this becomes something that goes back to the cold war days, jim. when we had actually had processes put in place all the way back to the u2 incident going back to the early 1960s. we deliberately moved our reconnaissance assets to offshore areas so they wouldn't overfly denied territory. something that is clearly going to be required now that this aircraft was not flying over denied territory, flying overinternational waters and missions like it have been conducted off the russian coastline or ukrainian coastline or any other coastline we're
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interested in. so international norms have to be re-established. this kind of intercept is something that can happen legally. but it cannot result in the downing of these kinds of ant assets. that's something they have to look at and military to military contacts are going to be necessary to achieve that. >> colonel, thank you for joining us. you can feel the pressure building this morning from wall street to washington. b banking concerns simmering, worried about the money we all have in banks in this country. the focus this morning, christine is squarely on washington because we'll hear from the treasury secretary in the next hour. the testimony wasn't originally about the banking crisis. >> it was about the budget. >> supposed to be about the
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budget. >> in her prepared testimony she is clear americans' money is safe. and she points out the efforts of the federal government, the federal reserve, the treasury department last weekend to make sure depositors are protected here. here's what she's going to say. americans are feel confident deposits are going to be there when they need them. there's a commitment to ensure depositors' savings remain safe. there will be a grilling of what kind of oversight there was in these three banks in the u.s. that failed over the past week. and the meltdown over credit suisse. their stock has bounced back a little bit. but regional banks in the u.s. are weak. still pressure on the banking system overall, even as the treasury secretary will try to draw a line on this crisis.
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>> deposits are safe, stock prices are moving, deposits are safe, the government made that clear. >> yes. >> we've been watching events in europe with credit suisse and concerns about it. yesterday the swiss bank offered a lifeline to credit suisse to shore it up. what was the e reaction to that move? >> extraordinary is the right word. yesterday we saw shares tank, down 30%, and the central bank of switzerland said if liquidity was needed it would be available. and the bank took them up on it, borrowing on a loan up to $54 billion. why credit suisse was on the end of broad selling, they have asked and
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scandals, failures of risk government, i report on this bank than any other. i can tell you it's facing the pressure, it relates to silicone valley bank and the failures you were talking about with christine there, and at the heart of it, interest rates. what's going to be interesting is in the next ten minutes we get the decision from the european central bank the ecb that oversees banks. they baked in half a point increase in february will they go ahead with it? with the turmoil in the last 24 hours they may want to take their foot off the gas with the rate hikes. so a great test case. >> you led me to my next question. when we look at this, how closely will the fed, jerome powell, be watching what the ecb does in europe, because that's coupled with everything else.
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>> what a balancing ing act. you have inflation too high, cooling. a job market too strong. fragility in the banking sector because of the fed's rate hikes. so the fed needs to continue to attack inflation but not add the stresses of the banking system at the same time. there's a lot of differences of opinion about what the fed chief is going to do, so we'll know for sure march 22nd. >> we've seen a lot of those in the last few days. the last meeting, eluded to 50%. hey, this gives them wiggle room to do 25. >> i don't think it'll be 50. i'd also say it won't be zero. it's maybe somewhere in between. that's what larry sum ers told us last night. >> seems to be what we're hearing. thank you both so much. joining us now with more on what this means from a washington angle, camile, a congressional report e for "the washington post."
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great to have you with us. there's plenty of discussion among lawmakers, lawmakers asked questions as they should be. and questions as to how specifically regulations that were rolled back, some of the dodd frank regulations in 2010 that in 2018 were rolled back. did they or did they not contribute to what we saw at silicone valley bank. what's most fascinating is it brought back to the forefront the clear divisions that exist among democrats. there are some who say this is fine, it worked the way it was supposed to. we should be looking at the boards, the ceos. and then you have others saying we need more regulation, we need more oversight. how does that play out? >> well, what i've been hearing a lot on capitol hill is that a lot of people are re-examining the 2018 bill and asking themselves whether that led to the collapse of silicone valley bank. when i talk to some senate democrats who previously
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supported that bill, they said it's too premature to blame this bill that the government needs to do a fuller assessment of what actually went wrong. and we shouldn't just automatically begin to talk about more regulations put on banks. in 2018, when they rolled back those regulations, it was in response to why they put them in in the first place because of the financial crisis in 2008. a lot of senate democrats and republicans at the time who voted for the bill believed that smaller banks needed regulatory relief. just now they want a full assessment of what went wrong. but a lot of them are standing by the bill saying they needed the regulatory relief and they want to see a better assessment to understand what exactly went wrong before proposing any legislation to put more regulations on banks. >> i wonder if that's a efficient answer because the rollbacks in 2018 dealt with
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this size and category of banks. and raising, in effect, the size and limit on some of the banks, you relieved a bank like svb from some of those restrictions. i wonder is there, given what we're seeing and the extraordinary measures that central bankers here in the u.s. and europe are having to take. is there any support for banking regulatory changes that might get bipartisan support? we're watching the cost play out right now. >> yes, i talked to senators like richard durbin and asked specifically will he take and consider warren's bill, he said he would be looking at it. but then others like tim kaine who supported the 2018 bill i asked will he take warren's bill seriously? he said he stands by his decision to support the 2018 bill. and this feels like it's too
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premature. so he wants more verinvestigati to be done on what led to the collapse before going to the table and saying let's start proposing legislation to make changes. i think they say it's too much in the early stages. this just happened over the weekend. they want to see more assessments and investigations done before concluding that taking legislation up is necessary. >> thanks so much. just ahead, new details on what happened inside a texas courtroom. this is the case we've been paying such close attention to. it could change access to medication for abortions to women across the country. and a call, former president trump made in 2020 part of efforts fo overturn the 2020 election. we'll tell you what he said on the recording. and later, a giant seaweed blob could impact your florida vacation this summer.
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after a four-hour long high stakes hearing a texas judge has now promised to rule as soon as possible. this on whether to block the fda's approval of the medication abortion drug mifepristone. >> now if the judge grants that preliminary injunction it could stop access nationwide. it also calls into question the fda and the approval process. rosa flores has been following these gdevelopments for us. >> reporter: the national abortion debate heating up in amarillo texas. inside the courthouse, the biggest legal battle since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade. a federal judge is seriously considering undo fda approval of
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mifepristone, an abortion medication available for more than two decades in a lawsuit brought by an anti-abortion coalition. >> the impact of overruling the fda's approval of mifepristone is far reaching. doctors and patients will not know if we can trust the national guidelines, which tell us to follow the standard of care. >> reporter: during the the four-hour preliminary injunction hearing the judge raised a scenario where he could keep the drug's approval intact and instead block the most recent moves to make the abortion pills easier to obtain. legal concerns already restricting access, walgreens announcing it plans to stop the sale of abortion pills in states it remains legal after republican led states threatened to sue. in this case the plaintiffs are arguing the drug is unsafe and the approval process was flawed.
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pro-choice groups say they went judge shopping where they found judge kacsmaryk. >> it would be unprecedented for a judge, a single judge to say the fda got it wrong. 23 years ago. there's never been an instance where anyone has overturned the ruling of the fda. >> reporter: judge kacsmaryk's handling hiing had been shroude secrecy, pointing to unnecessary death threats, voice mails and harassment. >> i'm dressed like a clown to show what a circus he created. he's making the american court system into a circus. >> reporter: more than half of all abortions were medication abortions. most using mifepristone.
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and a ruling against this drug would have wide implications. >> it's not just used in abortion care. it's used for miscarriage management. >> reporter: the judge didn't rule from the bej and said he'd issue an opinion as soon as possible. now about that opinion. there is no question that the judge here is sympathetic to the plaintiffs. that's not the question. the nuance is how far is he willing to go, and here's the nuance. the plaintiffs are asking the judge to practically yank this medicine off the shelf. but in the questions that the judge asked the plaintiffs, it's clear that he shows skepticism of being as aggressive as the plaintiffs want him to be. here's one example. the judge asked the plaintiffs, point to one case in which another judge did exactly what you're asking me to do, and they couldn't point to a case. this is that unprecedented. >> listen, enormous implications
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here, more than half of the countries, medical abortions. rosa flores, thanks so much. in the last hour, michael cohen, formal personal attorney and fixer for donald trump told cnn that new york prosecutors have a trove of evidence in their ongoing investigation into hush money payments made to the adult film star stormy daniels. have a listen. >> they have a tremendous amount of information. a lot of people have attacked my credibility. truth be told, at the end of the day, they can attack me all they want. this -- this -- this case is not going to be predicated on any one individual. but rather it's going to be predicated on the documents, the evidence, the text message, the emails. >> cohen has met with investigators several times and testified before a grand jury twice this week. this as we learn that daniels met with prosecutors yesterday
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and greagreed to testify to the grand jury if needed. former president donald trump did not just call georgia officials once in 2020, but we're now learning three times. pressuring them to, quote, find votes and overturn his election loss in that state. >> five jurors tell the atlanta journal constitution they listened to trump's call to david ralston. kristen holmes is joining us with the details. the third call we're learning about, what more do we know about that call and specifically what was said? >> good morning. look, this call really shows us that that pressure campaign from trump and his allies went further than we previously knew. this call was all about trying to get the georgia state assembly to convene a special session to overturn the 2020 election results in that state. and ralston did an interview
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where he talked about this call with former president trump he said, well, obviously he would like a special session of the georgia general assembly. he's been clear on that before and he was clear on that in the phone conversation yesterday. you know, i shared with him my belief that based on my understanding i have of georgia law that it was going to be a very much uphill battle. the reason that would have been an uphill battle there's only two ways the georgia assembly could have a special session one is by the governor calling that special session. we know trump did try to pressure kemp, something kemp rejected. the other would have been the general assembly calling itself to a special session but they would have had to have three fifths sign off on that and there weren't enough republicans at the time. this is the third recorded phone call we know about. the other one to the state chief investigator asking her to find
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votes, fraud, as well as the call with the secretary of state, brad raffensperger, where he was asking to find more votes. this shows us what the grand jury was seeing, learning about when they were trying to make this decision on these indictments. >> interesting development that's for sure. shows us a little bit more of what they were hearing. kristen, appreciate it, thank you. seven virginia deputies charged with murder. accused of smothering a 28-year-old man in custody. what prosecutors are saying about the case and what they call an alarming 12 minute video that prosecutors say captured those moments. whwho can shape raw materials into something meaningful. and who wants to serve in their own w way. if you're out there. if you're looking for more. we're looking too.
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this morning the disturbing 12-minute long video of a violent encounter between 7 virginia deeps and a 28-year-old will be shown to his family now. >> those officers are facing second degree murder charges after he died in their custody. prosecutors claim the video shows officers smothering him. brian todd has more of the details. >> reporter: in court prosecutors allege that seven sheriff's deputies smothered a man in custody. they're charged with second degree murder, in the death of the 26-year-old. police say officers took him to a hospital under emergency custody on march 3rd after responding to a possible burglary but he became
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assaultive at the hospital and they arrested him and jailed him for that weekend. >> he was on medication for mental illness. his mother is concerned about his ability to receive his medications. so she brings medications to the jail. they decline to accept them. >> reporter: prosecutors say video shows pepper spray and blows delivered in jail. on march 6th he was brought to a mental hospital. video shows he was pulled to the ground, held down for 12 minutes shackled and prone. the video was not shown in court or to the family's attorney. >> he's handcuffed and in leg irons. even if you were to describe his contact as agitated or combative. he supposed no danger to those officers. you can only use reasonable force. if you're piling onto an individual that is handcuffed that is in a mental health
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crisis, that is the definition of excessive force. >> reporter: it is not clear what other actions were not caught on camera. >> if this person poses a threat or danger, police are allowed under the constitution to use a level of force but it's a question of a continuum of force. someone should not die in police custody. >> reporter: the family attorney said otieno came to the u.s. from kenya when he was 4, was into hip-hop and part of the kenyan community. cnn has reached out to the attorneys for the deputies but haven't hear back. their boss, the sheriff, said their office is cooperating. so far two of the deputies were allowed out on bail. brian todd. joining me now, former officer michael fanone. good to see you this morning. brian laid out what we learned,
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but a crucial part is the video that prosecutors were referencing. saying it's 12 minutes, calling it alarming, saying it shows deliberate cruel treatment. the family set to see that this morning. given how quickly the charges were filed, do you think that is what this video will show ultimately? >> to be honest with you, i don't know. you know, it's -- i think it's irresponsible for any of us, including myself as a former police officer to speculate on these officers' actions one way or the other based on the statements of prosecutors and the attorneys of the family. not to say that couldn't be the case. but i have seen, especially recent history, a rush to judgment with regards to police officers' actions and an overcharging based on the politics of today, and the questions that we have about
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other incidents involving police officers. >> so to clarify you're not saying you have an issue with the charges. you're saying we need to wait and see the video? before, a, if it's a rush to judgment or b, it's what it shows? >> correct. >> people have questions about training and what we have been told, information given both in the statements that brian received and also from the prosecutors. so prosecutors saying in court, they were saying in court otieno was handcuffed and in leg irons held on the ground by seven officers for 12 minutes. when you hear details like that what does that signal to you? what could that mean in a situation like this? >> first of all, officers' priority in a situation is to render a scene safe. in this particular case that means gaining compliance from
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the suspect. and it may involve using force. i think that, you know, people need to understand that the officers are dealing with an individual's actions and at that particular time, the motivation for those actions may be -- or is irrelevant. the fact that the person is combative is what the officers are dealing with, not what is causing that. i understand the sympathy people may have, myself included, towards individuals suffering from mental illness. that being said, the officers' job is to render that scene safe. >> render it safe, for people listening what does that mean? is it to subdue the individual? get anybody else out of that situation? >> well, you know, in similar situations that i've experienced, the idea is obviously first to gain the compliance of the suspect.
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like i said before, officers are allowed to use force. that being said, if an individual is committing certain actions and officers are using proportionate force to subdue them, they have to continuously reevaluate what type of force is reasonable in that situation. officers are allowed to use the minimal amount of force necessary to affect or gain compliance. so that could be something they would have to re-evaluate minute by minute and some scenarios, second by second. also i want to say because the individual was in handcuffs or shackles i have experienced many individuals who displayed combative, aggressive behavior in handcuffs and shackles, in a few instances that even rose to a level which it was seriously dangerous to me and other officers and to the suspects themselves.
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and a few even rose to the level of a deadly threat. >> michael fanone, we appreciate your insight, your expertise, thank you. >> yes, ma'am. still ahead, a 5,000 mile wide blob of seaweed is headed now towards the coast of florida. our next guest has been tracking this phenomenon for years. why this one could be the worst yet. ♪ tell me why ♪ because it stinks. ♪ tell me why ♪ no, you tell me why i can't get rid of this s odor? ♪ have you tried new downy rinse and refresh h ♪ it doesn't just cover up odors, it helps remove them 3x bebettr than detergent alone. ♪ yeah ♪ guess the odor went bye bye. no, that's not us. sorry. rinse odor away with new downy rinse and refresh. save $10 when you spend $30 on tide and downy. the morgan stanley client experience? listening more than talking, and a personalized plan
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to exercise more, to be more social, to just relax. and eating healthy every single meal? if only it was this easy for us. oh, beachgoers be ware. a massive stretch of seaweed, some 5,000 miles wide. that's about twice the width of the united states, floating towards florida gulf coast, it
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forms these large pungent blooms. could be the largest of these massive fields of floating blobs on record. and scientists are worried about the impact it may have once it does reach the shoreline. >> brian is a biologist at florida atlantic university, has spent his career studying and swimming in this. thanks for coming on. thanks for taking the time. >> thanks for having me. >> as you explained before the show, this has a good function for some fish species, they can live in it and eat. but this is huge, 5,000 miles wide. what caused it and is that a bad sign? >> it's what we say, too much of a good thing. beginning in 2011, this area of
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the tropical atlantic formed and in 2018, it reached its maximum extent of extending all the way from the coast of africa, around the gulf of guinea across the tropical atlantic, through the caribbean, into florida area, that's 850 kilometers. at that point we realized this is the largest algae bloom on earth. we've been studying it. it's varied a little bit from year-to-year. 2001 we did not see the sargassum belt form. it doubled this year from december to january, based on the satellite imagery, that's how we track it. and we have sampled some of this
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great atlantic sargassum belt and other areas to compare with the baseline measurements that i established back in the 1980s. and the nitrogen content of the sargassum has gone up by 35%. nitrogen is a limit to its growth and production. so i think part of the cause of this is increasing availability of nitrogen -- >> from what exactly? >> well, it could be from a number of both natural and human sources. >> gotcha: we know in the gulf of mexico, for example, we use stable nitrogen iso taupes to identify the source of that nitrogen and it matches up with the value of the mississippi river nitrogen. the mississippi river discharges
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a lot of water and nitrogen, there's a dead zone there that has formed in the gulf of mexico as a result of all that production of organic matter not just by sargassum but by blooms that settle in the bottom and consume oxygen. we think this may be now happening more broadly in the atlantic basin. what we first saw in the 1980s with blooms in the gulf of mexico we are now seeing more broadly around the atlantic basin. so if you look around the basin, you have the congo river and other rivers are discharging in west africa. amazon, the largest river on earth, in brazil. a lot of deforestation, expanding agriculture and a growing human occupation. so we do think that the rivers are playing a role here
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increasing nitrogen to sargassum to support its growth. >> when we look at all that happening, as you're trying to turn all the reasons why, as gym pointed out it's helpful in the ocean, doing an important job in the ocean. the problem for a lot of people who have encountered it, myself included, when it washes up on shore and starts to decay, that's when trouble starts. it's tough for beaches, hotels, tourisms, resorts, nobody wants to clean this up. but it's potentially dangerous with what's in it. how concerned are you with what's coming ashore and what could be coming ashore? >> i am very concerned, erica. because it's not a problem until it is a problem. and as you point out, it becomes a problem when it becomes excessive amounts of it landing on the shore. along man groves and oak basins,
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on beaches where it begins to rot, decompose, it leaches out a lot of chemistry and the water, high ammonia concentrations around that and hydrogen sulfide, a toxic gas and it's a human health risk if you're in an area where there's a lot of this breathing that air and i think you experienced that in belize. so people need to be wary of that but also as this plant sees more nitrogen, we are tracking its tissue chemistry. and the amount of arsenic seems to be quite high in this. and we -- so again, if you're somewhere where you're harvesting this to use as fertilizer to repurpose it and use it for an official use, you have to be very concerned
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particularly using it for a food and fiber crop for human consumption. >> lots to watch out for. no question. brian lapointe thank you for joining. >> thank you. good morning. we are counting for you. you have just over two hours until your march madness bracket is due. just ahead what we're watching for first round tipoffs come our way, one of the most exciting events of the year even if you're not a college basketball fan. stay with us, people. we'll help you with your last minute picksks. le from all over the world. instead of talentless people from all o over my house.
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so, if you are like me, you have to get ready to tip off and get your bracket ready. >> and if you are like me, you need some advice. >> and some well orchestrated picks. and jim is holding out for some advice. >> well, it is panic time, and you only have two hours to fill
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out the brackets. i have some things to consider if you have something to do and so to make some higher the seeds the better you do, and keep it in mind to fill it out for the national championship, and the one seeds win more than anybody else, and two seed five times and a five seed has never won a national championship and who is a five seed this year? duke. keep that in mind. and what do the final seeds add up to, and this is fascinating, and when you get to the final four, you add up the final seeds, and that number needs to be around 13. it is as high as 18, and as high as 18 in the last ten tournaments and if you want to add up the one and the one and the two, it is not realistic for the last ten tournaments so keep that in mind, and have that number around 13, and throw a
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dart and have someone a higher seed in there with the lower seeds and no mat terter what yo, guys, we are all going to be wrong when it comes to being the champion. looking at this graphic here, this is saying who the consensus was and who the bracket was, and like last year gonzaga was 30% of the brackets and only 8% had kansas who won it. and last year, we had 2017 and 2018, and villanova was right, and looking at how bad it was, less than 3% had villanova and 2018 was the worse, and you had to go to uconn to get that pick right. and less than 8% -- >> so only 23% got that right. >> and so have fun with it, but try to use these numbers and i forgot they was supposed to warn you that there was math before this hit, and have fun with it
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and keep a few things in mind and when in doubt, pick the higher seeds to get to the final four, but have fun and try to pick a cinderella. >> you know who picked baylor in 2021? this guy. >> oh, come on now. >> it was more of a dart. >> i went to the university of houston so i am cougs all of the way. >> we will be watching. thank you, andy scholes. get those brackets in. and right now, the secretary of treasury is what is meant to be a budget hearing and stay with us. y'all wayfair's got just what you need for yourur home. do they have stylish beds at great prices? whoo, this bed is dreamy. you're kelly clarkson? yes. and you're in our bed?
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