runway. the american airlines jet thank goodness saw visually the air canada starting to take off, aborted, thank goodness, the jets ultimately came within .6 miles of each other, think about speeds we're talking about 14 seconds separated the two. terrifying to think about no word as to what was the reason, who was at fault. this is one now of seven close calls we know about at american airports this year. tonight don't miss a special report on america's aviation problems tonight at 9:00. thanks so much for joining us, it's time now for ac360. images that work terrified us during the cold war bringing similar chill. john berman in for anderson. you might have watched this

american fighter harassing international air space, tonight in today's confrontation between russia and the west. one in which moscow is already fighting a hot war in europe and just during the cold war it's actively trying to subvert pro western governments. we have a 360 exclusive on a russian document laying out one such plan to effectually topple a country besides ukraine an indications that the scheme already started. first, what that video tells us in new details on the upper accepted. cnn oren lieberman >> high over the black sea, it pointed backwards, a russian fighter jet closing fast on the much slower mq 9 reaper, the russian jet begins dumping fuel, the vapor and spinning propeller clearly visible in the video. the russian fighter flies by on another pass dumping fuel once again the jet comes even closer

and the video picks lates when the fighter collides with drone you can see the propeller with a bent blade damaged in the impact in the side by see images you can see the propeller before and after operating and damaged. >> we know that the intercept was intentional. we know that the aggressive behavior was intentional and unprofessional and unsafe, the actual contact of the fixed winning russian fighter with our uav the physical contact not sure that remains to be seen >> the video under cuts the russian narrative of what happened during the encounter. pentagon says lasted 30 to 40 minutes in total. russia claimed there was no physical contact. >>

>>. perspective from two people seen the spectrum of russian military behavior across the many ups and downs in the relationship with the united states, cnn military analyst and retired army lieutenant general hurt link also william cohen did he first secretary during the clinton administration, mr. secretary what's your assessment of this video, the stunning confrontation between russian jet and a u.s. drone, how does it undermine the russian version to you >> there's several things that come out of this, number one, a casablanca moment i'm shocked that the russians are lying i think it's clear there are two things we know from this, number one the russians can't be trusted. and to tell the truth and they can't be trusted in terms of international law, can't be

trusted, can't be believed. and this has been demonstrated over and over again from the time they pledged not to invade ukraine they pledged not to attack civilian targets, all of that has been proven to be a major lie, this is nothing new. what this shows is they're becoming more brazen and more desperate, this is not shocking in terms of their behavior. >> general we heard from general millie there, you can't question the intentionality of the encounter, clear from looking at it, there are questions about the intentionality of the contact itself, does this video show you that one way or another and is that important. >> it is important and i'll tell you why, it's because it reaffirms what i've already believed, and that is the poor training of the russian military, not just the ground forces but the air forces the naval forces, we have seen repeatedly these kinds of bee trails portrayals, rather how

the russian military conducts operations. you talk to air force pilot they will tell it was bad move, i hired someone saying the film surprises a lot of americans it's like top gun, it's nowhere close to being top gun for an aircraft to come in underneath a drone an aircraft probably flying at about 650 miles an hour to a drone flying about 250 miles an hour and try and dump fuel from underneath and strike a blade of propeller that's on the back of the drone? i mean, it just really reconfirms to me how incompetent the russian military is. >> secretary cohen you've heard cnn's reporting there, senior officials at the russian ministry of defense according to our reporting gave the record for the fighter jet to harass the u.s. drone over the black sea, but there's no indication that the kremlin itself, the vladimir putin knew about it. does that seem plausible to you and is that distinction important? >> it's not even relevant to

me. we keep asking what did putin know? did he know that his forces were targeting civilian apartment buildings, maternity wards, children's playgrounds, did he know? it's irrelevant because he's responsible to the commander and commander in chief to know, so the notion he may not have approved this to me is not a pertinent issue. what we know is that the highest levels what we think is the highest levels of the military have ordered this to them to bully the united states. the russians feel that the black sea is kind of their backyard pool and no one including united states should be playing in their pool. and we have to show by putting more reapers up there, more drones up there they're not going to tell at the united states or anyone else where we can go or what we can do. international air space and waters. >> the russian over the black sea is known as the russian pool or lake for centuries and to that point, general hurt link, or as oren reported the u.s. is

conducting an assessment of drone operations over the black sea and taking a look how to better avoid conflict with the russians in that area. do you see that as a shift from what secretary austin said yesterday that the u.s. would continue to quote fly and operate wherever international law allows? >> i take it different way, i think what we're assessing what we're assessing how to better safely fly the zone knowing that you're going to get these kinds of intercepts by the russians, when you look at the map again too, i mean, that drone was down closer to romainian territory, russia considers this the black sea a russian lake and can't have it that way, this international waters. what i think the assessment is going to really look at is how do we better protect our drones because these drones can later

over the area anywhere from 14 to 34 hours gives a distinct advantage in terms of intelligence. how do we protect them and how do scramble jets when we see russian aircrafts going after the kind of harassing actions they've done in this case >> mr. secretary it does appear as if russia recovered some debris, describes it as pieces of fiber glass or small bits. in your opinion, does this peeler hold value to the russians >> well, according to the pentagon, most of that information all of it even was deleted and stripped from the -- from the reaper, so would they be able to reconstruct the capabilities of the reaper? i don't think that's crucial. the russians aren't totally without engineers and specialties in terms of constructing these type of things, i don't think that's a big issue as far as we know.

i think the bigger issue for me is whether or not we should start replacing the mig 29s, they will give the ukrainians, replace them with f16s so they can put more aircraft into ukraine. >> secretary cohen, general heart link, a pleasure to speak to both of you, thank you so much. now, as if to really under score the stakes at play here, a 360 exclusive, new reporting that reveals the existence of a russian intelligence play book for undermining the government of another pro western country in eastern europe and bringing it back into moscow's sphere of influence, more from nick robinson. >> reporter: this is one face of russia's hybrid war to destabilize ukraine's tiny neighbor, maldover , an organize pro russian protest, by a parent

pro russian political, claiming intimidation, calling for the overthrow of the prime minister, it's one elementary in a sinister secret russian intelligence document obtained by cnn systematically laying out ways to bring down the nation's western leaning leaders. in addition to organized protests, options include utilizing the orthodox church threatening to cut off energy supplies ten-year strategy titled strategic of the russian federation and the republic appears to have been written two years ago by russia's kgb replacement the fsb the aimed creation of pro russian groups of influence and the formation of negative attitudes towards nato. officials increasingly seeing

its volatile effects. >> it's black propaganda actually is getting too many people in form of manipulation that the western and european integration path will only lead the country to war. >> russia's aggression appears triggered by the shift to the west. reaction to russia's war in ukraine. >> the kremlin spokes man denies it exists dismisses it as a fake the. only last year, russian military officials were boasting battlefield gains in southern ukraine would soon link russia with russian troops in the pro russian break away region of maldova. it didn't happen but for you days later, tensions spiked as two radio towers in the separatist region were blown up. no details emerged but the fsb

plan raises troubling questions about the possibility of a full flag operation. and russian missiles en route to killing in ukraine routinely fly close to or even inside maldova last month triggering a shutdown of air space also not less accident al at a more intentional >> we permanently asked for the unconditional evaluation of russian forces illegally stationed in the territory including the evaluation of the ammunition depot. >> reporter: western allies are increasingly showing solidarity, the u.k. foreign secretary the latest high profile visitor offering no weapons but strong support. >> one of the best ways that we can help physically protect maldova from harm is to essential the ukrainians are

able to defend themselves against russian attacks. >> as long as russia remains on offensive in neighboring ukraine and perhaps longer, maldova will likely be in moscow's cross hairs. in your piece, you talk about this document, this actual plan for maldova what more can you tell us can you tell us >> it's basic but also quite meticulous, always sort of seems right out of oh a soviet era play book, break it down into three sections over three stages, they have a political security seconds, they have a trade economy section, they have a humanitarian section, they have objectives short term objectives for 2022, mid-term objectives for 2025, long-term objectives for 2030, to give you an example on the humanitarian file, the short term objective is take pressure offer of pro

russian media the mid term for 2025 is allow more russian students to come study in muldova and 2030 the long term objective have russian become the main language of muldova. sound weird but set it out almost as you might have on a spreadsheet. send it to the boss, the president, president putin and he checks it off. have you done this? yes, have you done this? this is the way they were setting about changing muldova trying to make it anti-nato trying to have pro russian as the dominate political force a whole make over they in mind. >> nick robinson, fascinating reporting, thank you so much. next for us, more exclusive reporting in this case on the mar-a-lago documents case in the remarkable number of subpoenas going out. later, florida's governor, his

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wide net, a communications aide mar go martin worked in the white house and moved with the former of florida, appeared before the grand jury. with an indictment possibly coming in new york, the new york times has reporting that the trump campaign and i'm quoting maggie is preparing to wage a political war on manhattan da alvin brag laying the ground work, she reports, for a broad attack on mr. brag, a democrat or may have seen the first shot fired tonight. maggie also reporting that the campaign was adding staffers to focus on attacking prosecutors. we'll talk about that and the documents case shortly with our legal and political panel first cnn kristen holmes shares credit for the document exclusive. what can you tell us about the people subpoenaed want it means >> we're talking about roughly two dozen people who are subpoenaed to appear before the grand jury in this documents probe. and this is everyone from mar-a-lago resort staff to members of trump's inner circle. when you talk about mar go martin, that's a member of trump

inner circle not only a part of a small group of individuals who went from the white house to florida, part of an even smaller group who is still with trump today. but this range of subpoenas was incredibly broad. we are told there was a number of resort staffers who work on the grounds at mar-a-lago who are also subpoenaed this included a housekeeper, included at least two restaurant serverses. we're told that the interest here is really around what they may have seen or heard in their daily activities when they were doing their daily duties on the ground and that includes whether or not they saw boxes of documents in trump's sweet or on the property >> we talked about new york times maggie's story the former president's campaign adding staff members to focus on pushing out their message, what more do you know about that. >> political war already been waged. we started to see statements from the campaign, we're all getting calls from various sources about this attack strategy earlier tonight we got a statement from the campaign that went after alvin brag as you said a democrat, he was

saying the statements he was linked to george sore ris, linking him to president biden, essentially saying that this investigation and this potential indictment was a favor to biden in some way. and the thing to point out is the fact that this campaign is already starting this is not a coincidence, i talked to a number of sources on the ground in florida who believe there's likely an indictment coming next week, they're already starting their strategy their to try and get ahead of of that to put out their messaging and try various lines as they await this >> christian holmes a lot of reporting. >> senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor and washington cnn senior political correspondent, insider of politics sunday, counselor, all the subpoenas casting a wide net including this communications aide. what is special prosecutor, special counsel jack smith up to. >> doing his due diligence this

is how you handle subpoenas when deciding who your trial witnesses will be, you want to be careful selective and strategic but subpoenas are a great gift for prosecutors, because you can sort of shoot them out of a t-shirt cannon to make sure that you get all of the information and he's doing exactly what he should be doing, you never know what a housekeeper or server may have heard, that's what subpoenas are for, i used to have a stack subpoenas on my desk yeah high and you want to talk to everyone, that's what he's doing. >> everyone from a key communications aide to people who work in the house. what's your take away. >> i mean, actually, i'm intrigued by the people who work in the house, because i think this is a big part of the picture that the federal government has to at least complete when they're trying to figure out not only what happened to the documents how did they get there? but who may have had access to them? remember, mar-a-lago is a private club but it's kind of open to anyone who has the money to pay for a membership, who's a

guest of someone who's a member, it is not a particularly private place, it's not like a private home in the same way that other you know, former presidents have private homes, and so i think the federal government in this case is particularly interested in the goings on in mar-a-lago, how do people get from place to place? who might have had access to some rooms where some of these documents were found? that seems to be a critical part of the picture as they're trying to establish whether the documents were recklessly handled, and perhaps put in places where people who shouldn't have had access to them had access to them. >> abby, we heard about maggie reporting in new york times and chris holmes added that the political attacks on alvin brag the manhattan county district attorney who may issue indictments as soon as next week, or the grand jury will. from the political side what's your take away there. >> this is classic donald trump. i covered trump in the white

house when he was dealing with the special council investigation he attacked robert mueller specifically and directly in that time. and that was perhaps despite his aides really not wanting him to go there, trump is really -- his view of this is that the best way to undermine the investigations to go directly at it. you're already seeing this happening with his supporters. they're claiming that because brag is a democrat, that he is advised against trump that may or may not be true, trump also calls brag racist perhaps because he happens to also be black. these are all that sort of types of attacks some of them political, some just straight up, and he'll throw everything at this, his supporters eat it up and take this stuff at his word, and they repeat it and it becomes part of the narrative that helps in knock late him he believes against some investigation >> two different worlds, the one

out here the political world then inside the courtroom. we were just talking about with abby the political attacks on alvin bragg, these public attacks on alvin bragg can they get from the political world to the legal world to the courtroom. >> there could be an avenue into the courtroom. i don't think they will lead to much success, first of all any criminal defendant who gets indicted can make a motion dismiss based on selective prosecution, this goes to the judge not the jury i was singled out and propertied for political reasons, it's hard to make that because you have to show some other similarly person who was not charged. i can't think of anyone. when it comes time for a jury that's technically an improper argument but a lot of good defense lawyers will still try to get into not just the prosecutor's motives but what is relevant to is the witness' motives if you can show these witnesses had an ax or personal agenda that's fair game. i believe it's worth stressing the point abby made, donald

trump attacks everyone who investigates him going back to robert mueller on prosecutors fbi agents judges who ruled against him, jurors, grand juries, so this is completely expect. i don't like it i think it's inappropriate. but it is lawful to credits prosecutors investigating you. does it have or have you seen it have an influence on a perspective jury pool >> sure. jurors are human listen to what's in the media. it could backfire if jurors think this is a diversion, irrelevant, why do i care about whether there's political motives i'm supposed to judge the facts and law, i know jurors are human beings and if jurors -- breaking news, but you know the jury is not just some sort of mechanistic boyd it's 12 human beings, if they think something is poorly motivated or ill motivated that will come no play. >> thanks to both of you. u.s. stock markets breathing a big sigh of relief at least

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. all major u.s. stock market indices finished sharply higher after a roller coaster week for retirement accounts and the global economy at large, what began with a failure of a large tech oriented u.s. bank over the weekend extend worries about the solvency of other regional u.s. banks and postpone recently concerns about a large 167-year-old swiss bank with a trail of reputation issues and this week as if over yet. but but as government and large banks converge to provide financing and as important confidence for the banking system, what just happened can we please do something so it doesn't happen again be

perspective on the crazy volatile week from professor scott galoway from the nyu. he has direct ties with silicon valley. >> professor galoway we saw a handful of big banks throw first republic a life line putting 30 billion dollars into books how much of an impact do you think that will have on calming investors in banking systems here in the u.s. >> i think it will have a real impact. essentially the government and banks themselves and also some more responsible venture capitolists, if you will, are ring the contagion, to some degree the american banking system you would argue the last four days has been stress tested and it survived that stress test but shoring up the balance sheet making a more bullet-proof to iran that absolutely reduces the likelihood of a run on the bank. >> so hesitate to use the word bail-out but i can't think of

anything else, would first republic being bailed out by the big banks and the investigators a the svb having deposits guaranteed by it's federal government, what's the average american supposed to take away from this as they see the price of everything go up, they get impacted directly by one thing or the other. do you think there's the perception that the rich guys get protected and the average american, you know, gets screwed? >> i think our perception in that discomfort is warranted. but look, the reality is in last ten years 73 banks failed and of the 73, 72 have had their deposits back stopped and actually think it might be 73, i couldn't find information on the 73rd. i think what you have here is a brand problem. that is if this was the first agricultural bank of iowa, the public wouldn't have a problem with it. what the public has a problem with is that silicon valley's brand has come to represent a group of individuals who are very talented, who capture all of the up side from the risks

they're taking, and externalize the downside of some risks to our teenage daughters or to young men who have investment game fide or ride hailing companies have massive amounts of capitol they invest in legislation to capitol. what you have is this brand where they're full throated capitolists on the way up and socialists on the way down, sort of a part-time libertarianism that i believe the american public is correctly sort of gagging on, they start a fire in their back with regard, get angry when the navy and the air force and the fire department doesn't show up and when it does show up they stand up and pin a medal on themselves, i think people are more, i think it's a brand problem quite frankly. >> when it comes to the silicon valley bank, the chair of the house financial services committee said this was the first twitter fueled bank run. can you explain to me how the run in svb was fueled by posts

on social media spreading concern and fear? >> so that was one factor. but the reality is john to be fair was a combination of hifb increase in interest rates which took investments the value of investments they were holding way down concentration of risks not just a small number of companies but individuals who had influence over the portfolio companies told them to get out created massive concentration risks. also to be fair, to your point, there were a group of individuals i would argue are not venture capitolists but catastrophists, and get satisfaction of going on twitter and saying in all caps verbatim, chaos will ensue you should be terrified on monday morning there are lines around the banks of thousands, some will get their money out. most will not.

that is not helpful. >> venture catastrophists, a new term. do you think there's any solution to containing something like that, that type of fear, that type of alarmism? or is the jean knee out of the bottle >> this is great day to be american, first, banks do generally speaking lend out more money and invest more man than they have, that creates growth in the economy. that is how money is created. the question is do we need additional regulation? this bank managed to convince regulators to exempt them from irregulars around certain liquidity to would have made them a stronger bank would that have prevented this? we don't know, what we know is there's probe additional regulation coming down the pike but also comes down to trying to demonstrate to younger leaders that there's a difference needed among our leaders who do you want in your fox hole?

someone deliberate and see themselves as a civilian and calm and purposeful or see some sort of currency in creating alarm and unnecessary panic. i think it's a cultural issue. but i think quite frankly america comes out of this stronger. our government did exactly what it was supposed to do. i believe the american banking system comes out of this stronger, there's been a stress test and so far we've survived it. >> scott galoway you always give us an interesting way of looking at things, thank you for your time. >> thank you, john, good to see you. coming up the biden administration takes aim at florida governor ron desantis and a new opt ed over book banning don't mention the governor by name. they didn't need to, we'll explain when the author of the editor yell miguel cardona joins usus next. usus next. website, uploaded everything, and i was blown awayay by what they could do.

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. earlier this week, anderson spoke with best selling author jody de, peco after 20 bookses were banned. fall-out from ron desantis that requires public schools led to a lot of books being removed, she said that included one book she wrote about the holocaust, said the law is so egregious and vague that quote books are pulled off shelves without a lot of understanding why, a top

official for the biden administration, it does not name governor desantis but it's rather conspicuously published in a florida newport news. tampa bay times, miguel cardona wrote ironically some of the politicians claim freedom are banning books and sensors what students can learn, parents don't wants children dictating what they can think and believe that's not how public education is supposed to work in a free country. i spoke with secretary cardona shortly before air. >> secretary cardona thanks for being with us, your opt ed was wrote for the tampa bay times, that can'ting a coincidence, why did you choose to publish it in florida >> yes, it was sent in tampa i talked to teachers parents and students but i know it will have a national reach i'm here with you today, this attack on books,

you know, from the party that preaches freedom of speech is banning books, you know, doesn't make sense, the party of small government is overreaching into our schools, you know, i have confidence in our educators and parents to communicate what's right for our students, we don't need a state governments banning books. >> you mentioned politicians there, not parents. i want to ask you about a quote from your opt ed you write parents don't want politicians dictating what their children can learn, think and believe. that's the end of the quote. what we do know is many people making the decisions about which books to biden, for example, are our parents. who have been empowered by politicians like florida governor ron desantis, so what do you say to those parents >> i'm a life-long educator and i can tell you and as father i want to make sure that i have say in what my children are learning in the educational process, i'm in favor of that, parents are the most most influential teachers that's not

what we're talking about. we're talking about an attack on black history, we're talking about going after specific books. ban add book on robert o'-clemente, he's gone too far, let parents and educators work together to find what's best for the students and stop using our schools and our students as political pawns to get national attention. >> so in addition to the book bill, governor desantis proposed plans to defund all diversity, equity and inclusion programs, at state colleges and university. now, ron desantis seems like he's positioning himself to run for president, he's going to be a national player for the next couple of years. what kind of implications do you think that could have if it spreads to the national level. >> not only in florida but across the country we have to pay attention to what's happening to this overreach. to this division in education. our students have suffered a lot in last three years, we need to be raising the bar, we need to be providing more, unified to

make sure that our kids are ok, they're getting the academic help they need, mental support they need, but also pathways into these careers that will be available to them in the next couple of years. instead, many across the country are trying to so division and attack our public schools. we'll stand up for them. >> seems to be spreading, there are a bill passed in the house yesterday there that would establish a process for challenging books available to children. again, this was the house, this was the popular's elected legislature in arkansas so is this something that is becoming more popular? >> you know, i don't want to speak to a specific proposed bill. what i will say is parent engagement needs to increase. you know, look at our track record since day one, we listened to more than 9,000 parents and what i've heard from them is they need more access, they need more engagement and we're in support of that. as a matter of fact, a lot of the things we're funding include parent engagement, increased parent engagement, support for

full service community schools that engage parents, i'm all in favor of parents having more say and a more of a role in students are learningly. i'm not in favor of having state level politicians insert themselves in local schools to gain political points. >> you bring up a good point, all what we've been talking about from the beginning ethics are state and local decisions, does the federal government is there anything you can do about any of this >> you know, with going back to the issue of banning books or making environments, if you have a strategic attack on books that talk about black heros to me that creates an environment that's not conducive to learning or to learning about the beautiful diversity in this country. and our role quite frankly is to listen if folks feel their civil rights are being violated. we encourage them to you know, push forward and investigation request to the office for civil rights. we take the civil rights of oh you are students seriously.

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nasaau county, republicans, democrats and independents agree on one point, they have had enough of george santos. >> we don't trust him. i don't understand why he's still there. >> he's completely humiliated himself and it's -- it just seems like he's detached from really. >> we don't know who he is, and we don't like what we sea and it is time for him to go home. >> the fact that santos is filing for re-election will allow him to continue to raise money, only adding to the disgust by some in his district. >> i don't know if it's shock or disgust. i think it's terrible. >> it's not welcome news to constituents such as steven who says he predominantly votes republican. >> i hope he just goes away. there is so much turmoil with response to his environment, the environment he's created. >> on this day, we could not find a resident in the area who

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