images that would've terrified us during the cold war, rain a similar chill tonight. john berman here in for, anderson by now you might have already watch this video of a russian fighter, harassing an american drone, in international airspace over the black sea. tonight, we look at what it

signifies in today's confrontation between russia and the west, one in which moscow is already fighting a hot war in europe, and just as during the cold war, it's also actively trying to subvert pro western governments. we have a three 60 exclusive, on a russian document laying out one such plan to effectively topple a country besides ukraine, and indications that the scheme is already started. first, though, but that video tells us in new tail details on the intercepted cells. cnn's oren liebermann has that. >> high over the black sea, a u. s. spy drone points of camera backwards, towards its own tale. russian fighter jet closing fast on the much slower and q nine reiber. the russian jet then begins dumping fuel as it passes by the drone. the cloud of fuel vapor and crucially, the spinning propeller, clearly visible in the video after the pass. the russian sequoias you 27 fighter

than flies by with another pass. dumping fuel once again, thvideo pixelates when the russian fighter collides with the u. s. drone. when it comes back online, you can see the propeller with a bent blade, damaged in the impact. in these side by side images, you can see the propeller before and after, operating, and damage. >> we know that the intercept was intentional. we know that the aggressive behavior was intentional. we also know it was highly unprofessional. the actual contact of the -- russian fighter with our navy, physical contact with those two, not sure yet. it remains to be seen. >> the video undercuts the russian narrative of what happened during the encounter. >> -- >> the pentagon says lasted 30 to 40 minutes in total. russia claimed, there was no physical contact. >> there was no collusion. you say that the problem is that we

didn't contact this drone. we didn't start firing. it's very important. >> cnn has learned the intercept was at the direction of some of the highest levels of the russian ministry of defense. according to two u. s. officials familiar with the intelligence. but the officials said, there is no indication indication that russian president, flattery putin, planned the aggression in advance. russia has already reached the crash site some -- to u. s. officials tell cnn. they've been able to recover some debris from t the wreckage. the u. s. downplayed the significance of the drone remnants, saying there's probably nothing left of real value. >> oren liebermann joins us

from the pentagon tonight. oren, has the u. s. continue to operate drones over the black sea, even after that incident? >> john, we know from three officials familiar with the matter is that the u. s. is conducting an assessment of its run operations over the black sea. a look at what's gained, a look at what's risked, as they figure out how to proceed from this point. but we also know that even after the collision, there was at least one flight by a u. s. drone over the black sea. the same type of drone. mq-9 reaper. that flight, likely to survey the crash site and find out if the russians were making a move on some of that wreckage. we have since learned, as you heard there in the piece, that the russians have made a move on the wreckage, and have been able to recover a little bit of it. during this assessment, they're looking at where to go from here, what the expectations there will be more drone flights perhaps soon. >> oren liebermann, thanks so much for your reporting. perspective now from two people who've seen the spectrum of russian military behavior across the many ups and downs in its relationship with the united states. cnn military analyst and bright-eyed -- mark hertling, also william cohen who served as defense secretary during the clinton administration. mister secretary, what's your

assessment of this video, now that you've seen this? this stunning confrontation between russian jets and a u. s. drone. how does it undermine the russian version to you? >> well, there are several things that come out of this. number one is a casablanca moment that i'm shocked that the russians would be lying. i think it's very clear, there are two things that we know from this. number one, the russians cannot be trusted. but it's enough to tell the truth and can't be trusted in terms of international law, so can't be trusted, can be believed. this has been demonstrated over and over again, from the time they pledged not to invade ukraine, they pledged not to attack civilian targets. all of that has been proven to be a major lie. so, this is nothing new on that. what this shows is they're becoming more brazen and maybe more desperate. this is not shocking, in terms of what their behavior represents. >> general hurley, we heard from general milley there. you

can't question the intentionality of the encounter, that is clear from looking at it. there are questions about the intentionality of the contact, itself. does this video show you that, one way or the other? is that even really important? >> it is important, john. i will tell you why. it's because it reaffirms what i've already believed, and that is the poor training of the russian military. not just the ground forces, but the air forces, the naval forces. we've seen repeatedly these kinds of betrayals, portrayals, rather, of how the russian military conducts operations. i mean, you talk to any air force pilot, they will tell you that was really a bad move. i heard someone say, you know, the film surprises a lot of americans. it's like top gun. no it is not. it's nowhere close to being top gun. for an aircraft to come in underneath a drone, an aircraft that's probably flying at about 650 miles an hour, to a drone that's flying about 250 miles an hour and try and dump fuel from underneath, and then strike a blade, a

propeller that's on the back of the drone, i mean, it just really confirms to me how incompetent the russian military is. >> so secretary cohen, you heard cnn's reporting there. senior officials at the russian ministry of defense, according to our reporting, gave the order for this fighter jet to harass the u. s. drone over the black sea. but there is no indication that the kremlin itself, if vladimir putin knew about it. does that seem plausible to you? and is that distinction important? >> it's not even relevant to me. we keep asking, what did putin know? did he know that his forces were targeting civilian apartment buildings, maternity wards, children's playgrounds? did he know? it is irrelevant because he is responsible for as the commander and chief to know. so, the notion that he may not have approved this, to me, is not important, a permanent issue. what we know is that the highest levels, what we think we know is at the highest levels of the military, have ordered this, them to believe the united states. the russians feel that the black sea is kind of their backyard pool and no one, including the united states, should be playing in their pool. we have to show, by putting more reports out there, putting more drones out there, that they are not going to tell the united states or anyone else where we can go, what we can do. in international airspace and waters.

>> the russians have wanted the black sea sort of as a russian lake for centuries. to that point, general hurly, boy, as oren liebermann just reported, the u. s. is conducting an assessment of its drone operations over the black sea. taking a look at how to better avoid conflict with the russians in that area., do you see that as a shift from what secretary austin sai d yesterday,

that the u. s. would continue to, quote, fly and operate wherever international law allows? >> no, i think in a different way, john. i think what we are assessing, what european command, uconn is assessing, is how to better safely fly the zone, knowing that you're going to get these kinds of intercepts by the russians. when you look at the map again to, i, mean that drone was down closer to romanian and bulgarian territory than it was to russian territory. so, it confirms what secretary -- just said, russia considers this, the black sea, a russian lake. and they can't have it that way. this is international water. so, what i think the assessment is going to really look at is, how do we better protect our drones? because these drones can later, over the area, anywhere from 14 to 34 hours. it gives a distinct advantage, in terms of intelligence collection. how do we protect them and how do we scramble, jets when we see russian aircraft going after the kind of harassing actions that they've done, in this case? >> mister secretary. it does appear if russia has recovered some debris from this drone in the black sea. officials describe the wreckage as pieces

of fiber glass or small bits of the drone. in your opinion, does this material hold any kind of value to the russians? >> well, according to the pentagon, most of that information, or all of, it even, was deleted and stripped from the reaper. so, would they be able to reconstruct the capabilities of the report? i don't think that that is crucial. the russians are not totally without, you know, engineers and specialists, in terms of conducting or constructing these types of things. i don't think that's a big issue, as far as we know. i think the bigger issue for me is whether or not we should start replacing the mig 20 nines. the polls are now going to give the ukrainians, replace him with the f-16s, so that they can put more aircraft into ukraine. >> secretary cohen, general hertling, always a pleasure to speak to both of. you thank you both so much. >> thanks,. >> now, as if to really underscore the stakes at play here, a three 60 exclusive. new reporting that repeals the existence of a russian intelligence playbook for undermining the government of another pro western country in eastern europe, and bringing it back into moscow's sphere of influence. more now from cnn's nick robertson. >> this is one face of russia's hybrid war to destabilize ukraine's tiny neighbor, moldova. an organized pro-russian protest. whipped up by apparent pro russian political provoke utters, claiming intimidation, calling for the overthrow of moldova's prime minister. it's just one element in a sinister, secret

russian intelligence document obtained by cnn. systematically laying out ways to bring down the nation's western-leaning leaders. in addition to organize protests, options include utilizing the orthodox church, threatening to cut off energy supplies. it's ten your strategy, titled strategic objectives of the russian federation, and into the republic of moldova, appears to have been written two years ago by russia's kgb replacement, the fsb. the -- creation of stable pro russian groups of influence and the formation of negative attitudes towards nato. moldova officials, increasingly seeing its volatile effects.

>> it's black propaganda, actually, is getting too many people in the form of manipulation that the western and european integration path will not only leave the country to war. >> russia's aggression appears triggered by moldova's shift to the west. reaction to russia's war in ukraine. >> the kremlin spokesman denies the fsb plan exists, dismisses it as a fake. but only last year, russian military officials were boasting battlefield games in southern ukraine, would soon link russia with russian troops, and the pro-russian breakaway transnistria region of moldova. >> it didn't happen but a few days later, tensions spiked, has two radio towers in the separatist region were blown up. no details emerged, but the fsb plan raises troubling questions about the possibility of a false flag operation. and russian missiles en route to --

in ukraine routinely fly close to or even inside moldova. last month, triggering a shutdown of moldovan airspace. also looked less accidental, more intentional. in light of the report. >> [interpreter] we permanently as for the unconditional evacuation of the reasons for since, which are illegally stationed in moldova's territory, including the evacuation of the ammunition depot in kozma. [end of translation] >> western allies are increasingly showing solidarity. the uk's foreign secretary, the latest high-profile visitor, offering no weapons, but a strong support. >> one of the best ways that we

can help physically protect moldova from harm is to ensure the ukrainians are able to defend themselves against russian attacks. >> as long as russia remains on the offensive in neighboring ukraine, perhaps longer, moldova will likely be in moscow's crosshairs. >> nick, in your piece, you talk about this document, this actual plan for moldova. what more can you tell us about that? >> it's very basic, but it's also quite meticulous. it almost sort of seems right out of a soviet era playbook. they break it down into three sections over three stages. so, they have a political security section, they have a trade economy section, they have a humanitarian section, and they have objectives, short term objectives for 2022, mid term objectives for 2025. long term objectives for 2030, so to give you an example on the humanitarian file, the short term objective is, take pressure off of pro russian media. the mid term objectives for 2025 is, allow more russian students to come and study in moldova. and then 2030, their long term objective, is, have russia become the main language of moldova. so, it sounds weird, but they've said this almost, as you might have on a spreadsheet. he would send it

to the boss, the president, president putin, and he checks it off, as the years go by, have you done this? yes, have you done this? yes. this is a way that they were setting about changing moldova. trying to make it anti-nato, trying to have pro-russian partners as the dominant political force. it was a whole make over, is what they had in mind. >> extraordinary. nic robertson, fascinating reporting, thank you so much. next thrust, more exclusive reporting. in this case, on the mar-a-lago documents case and the remarkable number of subpoenas going out. later, florida's governor, his school book law, and the opponent it now faces with education secretary, miguel cardona, who joins us tonight. joins us tonight. joins us tonight. joins us tonight. joins us tonight. joins us tonight. joins us tonight. joins us tonight. joins us tonight. joins us tonight. joins us tonight. joins us tonight. joins us tonight.

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we have exclusive reporting on how many more people have been subpoenaed to testify before the washington federal grand jury in the mar-a-lago documents case, they, are in the words of one source, casting an extremely wide net, we learned well tonight that a

communications aide named margo martin, who worked in the white house, appeared today before the car and jury. also, with indictment possibly out in new york, new york times maggie haberman has reporting, but the trump campaign is preparing to wage a political war on manhattan da alvin bread, laying the groundwork, for a broad attack on mr., brag a democrat, and he made in his first shot fire tonight. maggie also reporting the campaign is adding staffers to focus on attacking prosecutors, talk about that in the documents case shortly, with our legal and political panel, so he diocese kristen holmes who shares credit for the dominic lewis of what details but the people who were subpoenaed and what it means -- and this is everyone from mar-a-lago were to sort, staff to members of trump's inner circle. not only was she part of a

small group of individuals, she's one of the smaller individuals, who subpoenaed to this day. this range of individuals incredibly broad, we were told there is a number of resorts staffers who worked on the ground, but were also subpoenaed, living's included housekeeper, two restaurant servers, and we're told the interest here, is really around what they may have seen or heard, in the daylight dividend, they did their daily duties on the ground. that includes whether they saw boxes of documents and trump suite, or on the property. >> we talked with the new york times before, adding reportedly staff members to focus on foot push other message, what more do you know about that? >> he had his political war is already been waged, we're already starting to see students in the campaign. we're getting calls from various sources. wednesday move on the campaign, they went after alvin bragg, as you said a democrat, hussein

statements that was linked to george, soros also linking him to president biden, essentially saying the same that this potential indictment was a favor to biden, in some way. the thing to point out here is the fact that this campaign is already starting is not a coincidence. i talked to a number of sources who are on the ground in florida, who really believe that there is likely an indictment, it's likely coming next week. so they're already starting starting the strategy to try to get ahead of, that put out their messaging, and try various lions as they wait this. >> kristen holmes, a lot of reporting, there thank you very much. >> movie now, senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor emmy honig, and watched, and senior political correspondent, abby philip, anchor of politics sunday. all right, councillor all the subpoenas, casting a wide net, including this communications -- what a special counsel jack smith up to. this is how you handle subpoenas, john, when you're

deciding here trial witnesses are gonna, be it to be very careful. but subpoenas are a great gift for prosecutors, because you can sort of shoot the middle of a future cannon, essentially, to make sure you get all the information. and he's doing exactly what it should be. , you never know what a housekeeper, what a server may have overheard, so you want to make sure that you run all that down, as a subpoenas are, for a start a stack of subpoenas on my dossier, and you want to talk to anyone that you can, that's where we're at. >> all right abby, everyone from mickey communications aide, to people who work in the house, what's your take away? >> yeah i mean actually, i'm intrigued by the people working the, house because i think this is actually a big part of the picture, that the federal government has to at least complete, when they're trying to figure out not only what happened to the documents, how did they get there? but who may have had access to them. and remember, mar-a-lago is a private club, but it's kind of open to anyone, who has the money to pay for membership, who is a guest of someone who's

a member. it is not a particularly private place. it's not like a private home in the same way that other former presidents have private homes, so i think that the federal government in this case is particularly interested in the goings on in mar-a-lago, how did people get from place to place? who had access to some of the rooms where some of these documents were found. that seems to me a really critical part of the picture, as they're trying to establish whether the documents were recklessly handled and perhaps put in places where people who should have had access to them had access to them. >> so abby, we took her about my haberman's reporting in the new york times. the political attacks now, on alvin by brag -- from the political side, what's your take away their. >> this is classic donald trump. i covered trump in the white house when he was dealing with the special counsel investigation. he attacked robert mueller specifically, and directly in that time. and

that was perhaps despite his aides really wanting him to go there. trump is really, his view of this is the best way to undermine the investigation is to go directly at it. you are already seeing this happening with his supporters. they are claiming that because bragg is a democrat that he is biased against trump. that may or may not be true. trump also calls brag racist perhaps because he also happens to be black. these are all types of attacks. some of them political, some of them straight up ad hominem. he will throw everything at this because his supporters really added up. they take this stuff at his word and they repeat it. it becomes part of the narrative that helps him. he believes at least against some

of these investigations. >> all right, there are two very different worlds. there is the world out here, the political world, and there is the world inside the courtroom. what we were just talking about with abby, these political attacks on alvin bragg, these public attacks on alvin bragg, can they get from the political world to the legal world? >> there could be an avenue into the courtroom. i don't think it will lead to much success. first of all, any criminal defendant can make a motion to dismiss based on what we call selective prosecution, meaning you are arguing to the judge, this only goes to the judge, not the jury. i was singled out and i am being prosecuted for political reasons. it is really hard to make that showing in part because you have to show other similarly situated persons who are not charge. i can't think of anyone in this case. when it comes down to a jury that is technically an improper argument, but a lot of good defense lawyers will still try

to get into not just the prosecutor's motive but what is relevant is the witnesses motives if you can show that the witnesses have a personal agenda that is fair game. i do think that it is worth stressing a point. donald trump attacks everyone who investigates him. going back to robert mueller on prosecutors, fbi agents, judges who ruled against him, jurors, grand jurors. this is completely expected. i don't like, it i think it is inappropriate. but it is lawful to criticize prosecutors who were investigating you. >> does it have, or have you seen it have an influence on a prospective jury pool? >> sure, jurors are human. jurors listen to what is out there in the media. it could backfire if jurors think that this is a diversion. this is irrelevant, why do i care about whether there is political motives? all i have to do is judge the facts of the law. but i know that jurors are human

beings. and if jurors, breaking news, the jury is not just some sort of mechanist ick body. it is 12 human beings. if they think that something is poorly motivated or ill motivated that will come into play. >> elie honig, aly philippe, thanks to both of you. the u. s. stock markets are breathing a big sigh of relief today. they were up after a remarkable concerted effort by major u. s. banks to rescue a smaller bank whose failure could have made a bad week for the world. and why business school professor scott galloway joins us next to explain whether we are out of the woods yet, and of rescuing banks is another example of banking executives playing by a different set of rules in the rest of us. this is eargo and they're virtually invisible. they automatically enhance your hearing wherever you are. ours comes with buttons on the back so you can fiddle around to your heart's content. like the eighties all over again. cool, right?

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embassies finished higher today after a rollercoaster week for retirement accounts in the global economy at large. it began with the failure of a large tech oriented bank over the weekend extended to worries about the solvency of other regional u. s. banks. then most recently, the concerns about a large 167 year old swiss bank with a trail of reputational issues. this week is not even over yet. but as government and large banks converge to provide financing and perhaps that's important confidence for the banking system, there is still the lingering question of what just happened, and can we please do something so that it does not happen again. perspective now on a crazy volatile week for the entire world from professor scott galloway from the nyu stern of business. he has ties with for businesses who had direct ties with silicon valley bank. professor, we saw a handful of big banks throw -- a lifeline, putting $30 million in their books. how much of an impact you think it will have oncoming investors in the banking system in the u. s.? >> i think it will have a real

impact. i think the government, and banks themselves, and also more responsible capitalists are referencing the contagion. the american banking system, to some extent, you would argue over the last four days has been stressed tested. and it survived the stress test. but shoring up the balance sheet, making it more bulletproof. that absolutely reduces the likelihood of a run on the bank. >> so i hesitate to use the word bailout here but i can't think of anything else. with the first republic being bailed out by the big banks, and the investors at as we be having their deposits guaranteed by the federal government, what is the average american supposed to take away from this? as they see the price of everything go up they get impacted directly by one thing or the other, do you think that there is the perception that the rich guys get protected and at the average american, you know, gets screwed? >> i think the perception and discomfort is warranted. but the reality is in the last ten years, 73 banks have failed and of the 73 72 have had their deposits back stopped. i actually think it might be 73.

i couldn't find information there. i think that what you have here is a brand problem. that is that if this was the first agricultural bank of iowa, the public would not have a problem with it. what the public has a problem with is that silicon valley's brand has come to represent a group of individuals who are very talented, who capture all of the upside from the risks they are taking, and externalize the downside of some of these risks to her teenage daughters, or two young men who have investment apps. or to ride hailing companies that have massive amounts of capital that they invest in legislation, to see power from labor, to capital. so what you have is this brand where they are thrown to capitalist on the way up, and socialists on the way down. it is sort of like this part-time libertarianism that i think the american public is correctly dragging on. they start a fire in their own backyard, they get angry when the navy and the air force, and the fire department does not show up. when it does show up they stand up in the middle, on themselves. i think that it is a brand problem, quite frankly. >> when it comes to the silicon valley bank and the collapse, the congressman, chair of the house financial services committee said that it was the first twitter fueled bank run. can you explain to me how that it was fueled by posts on social media spreading concern

and fear? >> so that was one factor but the reality is to be fair, this was a combination of a historic increase in interest rates which took investments, the value of investments that they were holding way down. this was confrontation of risks. we are not just a small number, of companies, but we had influence over the portfolio companies who told them to get out and created massive concentration risks. also to be fair, to your point, there were a group of individuals that i would argue were not venture capitalists, but venture catastrophes. in an attention economy get some sort of currency or satisfaction of going on twitter and saying in all caps, verbatim, chaos will ensue. you should be terrified. on monday morning there are mines around the banks of thousands of people, some will get their money out, most will not. that is not helpful. >> venture catastrophes. a new term for me there. navy and the air force, and the fire department does not show up. when it does show up they stand up in the middle, on themselves. i think that it is a brand problem, quite frankly. >> when it comes to the silicon valley bank and the collapse, the congressman, chair of the house financial services committee said that it was the first twitter fueled bank run. can you explain to me how that it was fueled by posts on social media spreading concern and fear? >> so that was one factor but the reality is to be fair, this was a combination of a historic increase in interest rates which took investments, the value of investments that they were holding way down. this was confrontation of risks. we are

not just a small number, of companies, but we had influence over the portfolio companies who told them to get out and created massive concentration risks. also to be fair, to your point, there were a group of individuals that i would argue were not venture capitalists, but venture catastrophes. in an attention economy get some sort of currency or satisfaction of going on twitter and saying in all caps, verbatim, chaos will ensue. you should be terrified. on monday morning there are mines around the banks of thousands of people, some will get their money out, most will not. that is not helpful. >> venture catastrophes. a new term for me there. do you think that there is any solution to containing something like that? that type of fear, that type of alarmism, or -- >> i would argue that this is a great day to be an american. first off, banks do generally speaking, lend out more money and invest more money than they have. that creates growth in the economy. that is how money is created. the question is, do we need additional regulation?

this bank convinced regulators to exempt them from it regulation for certain ratios that would have made them a stronger bank. would that have prevented this? we don't know. what we know is that there's probably additional regulation coming down the pipes, and also i think it comes down to trying to demonstrate to younger leaders that there is a different thing that is needed among our leaders. that is who do you want in your foxhole? do you want someone who is deliberate and sees himself as a citizen and calm, and purposeful? or do you want someone who sees gotcha points or some sort of currency in creating alarm and unnecessary panic? i think it is a cultural issue but i think quite frankly that america comes out of the stronger. our government did exactly what it was supposed to do and i believe the american banking system actually comes out of the stronger. there has been a stress test, and so far we have survived it. >> you always give us such an interesting way of looking at things. thank you for your time.

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>> earlier this week, anderson spoke with bestselling author, jody peco, after 20 of her books were banned in just one county in florida. fallout from a law championed by republican governor ron desantis requires approval of all books in public schools that has led to a lot of books being removed. pecos said that that included one book she wrote about the holocaust, she also said that the law is so egregious and bake that, quote, books are being pulled off shelves without a lot of understanding why. today, a top official for the biden administration published an editorial on this controversy. it doesn't name governor desantis, but it is rather conspicuously published in a florida newspaper, the tampa bay times. education secretary miguel cardona writes, quote ironically, some of the very politicians who claim to promote freedom are banning books and censoring with students can learn. he also writes, parents do not want

politicians dictating what their children can learn, think, and believe. that is not how public education is supposed to work in a free country. i spoke with secretary cardona shortly before air. secretary cardona, thank you for being with us. so your op-ed was written exclusively for the tampa bay times. that can't be a coincidence, why did you choose to publish it in florida specifically? >> silence is complicity here, and yes, it was sent into tampa because i have talked to teachers, i've talked to parents, and students that are very concerned. but i know it is going to have a national reach. that is why i am here with you today. this attack on our books, you know, from the party that preaches freedom of speech, it is banning books. it doesn't make sense. the party of small government is overreaching into our schools. i have confidence in our educators, in our parents, to communicate what is right for our students. we do not need a state government banning books. >> you mentioned politicians, not parents. i want to ask you

about a quote from your op-ed. because you write parents do not want politicians dictating what their children can learn, think, and believe. that is the end of the quote. but we do know that many of the people making the decisions about which books to ban, for example, are the parents who have been empowered by politicians like florida governor, ron desantis. what do you say to those parents? >> i am a lifelong educator, and i can tell you as a father, i want to make sure that i have say in what my children are learning and the educational process. i am all in favor of that. i've always been. parents are the first, and most influential teachers, but that is not what we are talking about. we are talking about an attack on black history. we are talking about going after specific books. they banned a book on roberto clemente. it has gone too far. let our parents and educators work together to find out what is best for the students, and stop using or schools and our student says political pawns to

get national attention. >> in addition to the book a bill, governor desantis proposed plans to defund all diversity, equity and inclusion programs, in state colleges and universities. ron desantis seems like he is positioning himself to run for president. he is going to be a national player for the next couple of years. what kind of implications do you think that could have if it spreads to the national level? >> not only in florida, but across the country we really have to pay attention to what is happening to this overreach. to this division, in education. our students have suffered a lot in the last three years, we need to be raising the bar. we need to be providing more. we need to be unified to make sure that our kids are okay, and that they are getting the academic help that they, need the mental support that they need. but also pathways into these careers that are going to be available to them in the next couple of years, instead many across the country are trying to sow division and attack our public schools. we are going to stand up for that. >> it seems to be spreading.

in arkansas a, bill passed yesterday there that would establish a process for challenging books available for children, again it was the house, the popularly elected legislature in arkansas, so is this something that is becoming more popular? >> i don't want to speak to a specific proposed bill, but what i will say is that parent engagement needs to increase. look at our track record, since day one we have listened to more than 9000 parents, and what i have heard from them is that they need more access. we are in support of that. -- as a matter of fact a lot of the things that we are funding, include parent engagement. the increase parent engagement. support for a full service community schools that engage parents. i am all in favor of parents having more say and more of a role, in what the students are learning. what i am not in favor of is having state level politicians insert themselves into local schools to gain political points. >> you bring up a good point, all what we have been talking about from the very beginning here, these are state and local decisions. does the federal

government, is there anything that you can do about any of this? >> going back to the issue of banning books, or making environments where people don't feel safe, if you have a strategic attack on books that talk about black heroes, to me it creates an environment that is not conducive to learning. or to learning about the beautiful diversity in this country. our role, quite frankly, is to listen if folks feel like their civil rights are being violated, we encourage them to push forward, and investigation request for the civil rights. we take the civil rights of our students very seriously. it is state and local control, but our parents and educators are speaking up and we have a responsibility at the federal level to call it hypocrisy and call out an attack on public schools. that is what we are doing. >> education secretary miguel cardona, we do thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> coming up, what do you do after you are caught faking it

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we don't like what we see, and it is time for him to go home. >> the fact that santos is filing for reelection will allow him to continue to raise money only adding to the disgust by some in his district. >> i don't know if it is shock, or disgust. i think it is terrible. >> it is not welcome news to constituents, such as stephen farrell, who says he predominantly votes republican. >> i hope it just goes away. there's just so much turmoil wrist with response to the environment he has created. >> on this day, we cannot find a resident in the area who supports the embattled congressman. not one. an official here tells us that santos also does not have the backing of nassau county's republican party. >> he needs to resign. resign now, forget about running for reelection. george, resign now. >> glenn cope's mayor has

joined a chorus of other republicans, both locally and nationally, who say that santa should not keep his seat after numerous scandals and lies surfaced about his resume, and background. >> if mr. santos is doing this, and has any intention of running for reelection, he will not have the support of anyone who i know. everyone in the republican party of nassau county has pretty much demanded that he resign immediately. he has so far not paid attention to anyone. >> despite widespread calls for his resignation, from santos's own party, democrats such as mindy isikoff worry that enough republicans could be convinced to support him rather than risk losing a congressional seat. >> if he does what he says he's going to do the people who voted for him the first time will let go of their hatred and vote for him again, because they hate a lot of other people. >> jason carroll joins us now from douglass than, new york, part of the district. you know, you can hear the frustration

and everyone's voice there. what else did they tell you? >> a lot of frustration here, john. as you know, i think after talking to people here, i think what a lot of folks are hoping is that the house ethics committee will do its part, complete their investigation, and expel santos from congress. but i have to say a lot of folks here have little faith in congress, and a lot of them are feeling what he's going to end up getting is a slap on the wrist, and they are going to end up being stuck with santos. >> two years. jason carroll, thank you very much. next, the blob. no, really, the blob. and it is heading this way. when i first brought her home, she was eating little brown pieces in a bag and it was just what kind of came recommended. i just always thought, “dog food is dog food” i didn't really piece together that dogs eat food. as soon as we brought the farmer's dog in, her skin was better, she was more active, high-quality poops. if i can invest in her health and be proactive, i think it's worth it. see the benefits of fresh food at betterforthem.com

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