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attorney in the investigation examining hush money paid to women who alleged sexual encounters with him. he wrote in all caps, the tar and away leading republican candidate and former president of the united states of america will be arrested on tuesday of next week, protest, take our nation back. his legal team has been p preparing behind the scenes. trump is expected to present himself in manhattan following the formal charges and has expressed interest in making a speech afterwards. a source familiar with the situation says a trump has complained privately he believes he's only going to be indicted because he thinks that bragg, quote, hates him. some of his advisers urged him not to call for pros tests concerned about the ics of a mas protest growing out of control or resembling the january 6th attack on the capitol. john miller reported about meetings between city, state and federal law enforcement agencies in new york city about how to prepare for a possible indictment. we'll bring you more on this story as details become
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available. now to the guns of war. this week came several suggest cant and troubling developments with regard to the war in ukraine. the latest the news that next week president xi jinping will travel to meet with vladimir putin. a putin adviser told russian staut media they plan to discuss the war in ukraine and will sign documents attesting to closer ties. china refused to condemn russia's invasion or call it such. or blaming it on the advance of nato. u.s. officials are monitoring the meetings as china considers sending weapons and working to get xi on the phone with president zelenskyy. the biden administration also warning that xi cold call for an unconditional cease-fire, which the u.s. says would legitimize the hold on the 17% of ukrainian territory that is taken by force. the international criminal court issued arrest warrants for the commissioner for children's rights over an alleged scheme to
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forcibly deport thousands of children to russia. russia, which does not recognize the jurisdiction, call ed the wr outrageous and unacceptable. this followed on thes of the u.s. encounter in international air space over the black sea, in which two fighter the jets harassed a drone. one of the russian jets dumped fuel on the drone disabling its cameras and hit the drone's propeller prompting the operators to bring it down in international waters. before that video was released by the u.s., russia claimed its jet did not use air bourn weapons or come into contact with the drone. then on thursday, poland announced it would be supplying fighter jets to ukraine, the first nato member to do so. on friday, slovakia followed suit saying it was sending 13 more raising pressure to do the same. all this while fierce fighting
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continues in the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut with russian forces exhausted low on munitions. the lieutenant colonel told the "washington post" of his struggles leaving inexperienced troops in a baa to tallon of 500 soldiers. 100 were killed in action and 400 wounded. the sum total of these developments seems to be ratcheting up of the conflict in its 13 month and comes of growing divide in the united states on support to ukraine. just 42% of republicans say they support sending u.s. weapons and money to are ukraine compared % of democrats and 60% of independents. and this week governor desantis, a presumed gop the candidate, answered a tucker carlson questionnaire refer ring to the war this ukraine as a territorial dispute. he said, quote, while the u.s.
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has many vital national in interests, securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness in our military, achieving energy, security and independence and checking the military power of the communist party becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between ukraine and russia is not one of them. this earned him a rebuke from the right-leaning page of "the wall street journal." it called it his first big mistake and wrote, this is flirting with go p isolationism that is emerged from time to time in history and has usually been an electoral cul-de-sac. and that was on national display when japan attacked pearl heart boar. president trump weighed in with his take. >> every day this battle in ukraine continues we risk global war. we must be clear that our objective is to immediately have
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a total secession of hostilities. where shooting has to stop. >> "the wall street journal" that they are forcing to have one hand tied behind its back. i want to know if you agree. go to smerconish.com and vote on this poll question. is the military support being given to ukraine by u.s. and nato intended to defend against russia or actually to win the war. john bolton joins me now. he served as national security adviser to former president trump and ambassador to the united nations.
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he's also the author of the book "the room where it happened." ambassador, thank you for being here. what have we not done that we should be doing according to you? >> they have declared what the goals in ukraine are. the stated position of every nato member is ukraine should be restored for the integrity. and having stated the goals determine a strategy that will get us there. we have had no strategy. i think people are familiar with this long series of debates about this weapon system and that weapon system, do we supply mig planes and attacks and tanks. that reflects the absence of a strategy. the strategy is assembling the asset ises you need to achieve the goals and then going and doing it. that's not what we have done. the effect has been to prolong this war, increase the ca
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casualties and damage to ukraine and give russia more of a chance over time as the much larger power in the conflict to make up for its appalling performance in the opening months of the war. >> the thesis is of your piece is that we're not letting them win. how do you define winning? >> again, the stated position, which we may not believe, maybe the white house doesn't believe in our stated position is what they want. but it means as the prime minister of finland said a couples months ago, it ends with troops out of ukraine. >> ukraine as it existed 13 months ago or ukraine plus crimea? >> any possibility of stability in the space of the former soviet union is the territorial sovereignty that ukraine held at
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the time of the breakup of the soviet union at the end of 1991. the first, last and only democratically elected president of russia greated to splitting along the lines of the internal borders. in 1991. russia agreed to it. if russia wants to pull out of the agreement, that's fine. that means the border of every other part of the soviet union is up for grabs. >> will you respond to critics, and i read this in a comment, that ambassador bolton has never met a war he doesn't like? >> that's the kind of simple-minded response. i look after american interests. my philosophy is derived from barry gold water and ronald re
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reagan, who believed in peace through strength. for some people, it's hard to understand that it's not american strength that's provocative. it's weakness that's pr provocative. >> you served in the trump administration. i have to ask you about the news of the day. the news that former president trump has posted on truth social just this morning that he expects to be arrested on tuesday and is also calling for protests telling his supporters to, quote, take our nation back. your thoughts? >> just to explain. if he's about to be arrested, it mean he's going to be indicted first. he's going to be required to come in and vend surrender to answer to the hooimt indictment. it's not a random decision. i strongly believe in a free society. there's got to be one rule of law for everybody. that's career. i don't know how you make that judgment when you're talking about a case involving somebody paying hush money to a prostitute or a stripper. i only know one person who has ever done that.
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i worked for him. it's a kind of strange situation, but i will say this. however guilty trump may be, and the one rule of law for everybody, if they indict and fail to convict in new york, i think historians would look back and say that's the act that reelected donald trump president. i hope those prosecutors are very, very certain of their case. >> i have opined here that in the four buckets that i perceive where he faces legal peril, this is, in my opinion, the weakest of them. i have to believe there's a risk here of this might not be the right word, but tainting the prosecutions that could follow. he has a right to vigorous oustly defend himself in the charges that might flow. what ien don't like is him calling for ro tests because it's reminiscent of january 6th. >> i think this is an important
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issue. this was not an insurrection. it was a riot. it was not an attempted coup because i didn't think donald trump had the wits to conduct a coup. but having seen the history, if he's calling people into the streets, this time he's seen the experience of january 6th and this is potentially very dangerous. so again, people, law enforcement in new york has to be concerned for the safety of the citizens of new york. but if something happens in this that allows trump to make it into a campaign issue, it's going to be very serious. i know this must be galling to many people, but keep your eye on the ball is what i'd say. if you don't want donald trump to be elected president again, for god's sakes, be careful how you act. >> i get your point. i think he risksen surrendering the argument this is a seven 7-year-old sex case when it
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should lead to preprotests. i like to respond to social media in realtime. put something on the screen so we can answer it together. i'll read it aloud. he's calling for his minions to protest says jena. he was careful with his wording this time. he will be out before his fingerprint ink can dry. your thought? >> he will be out of the surrender exercise on tuesday almost certainly. you go in, he's going to get his mug shot taken. that will be interesting. and he'll be back in some safe location. we'll see what happens here. we'll see how many people are willing to turn out for him it may turn out to be a bust. but i don't think law enforcement ought to do anything to give him the excuse to say he's the most persecuted man in the world. >> ambassador, thank you for your time. >> glad to be with you. ambassador bolton has unsinspired today's poll questi
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at smerconish.com. answer this question. using the qr code, put your phone up to the tv screen and we'll make it easy for you. is the military support being given to ukraine by u.s. and nato intended to defend against russia or to actually win the war? go vote. still to come, a committee in san francisco has made over 100 proposals aiming to congressmen sate for centuries of slavery and racism including $5 million per eligible resident. could this be implemented? we have the guest, the committee vice chair is here. to avoid another bank failure, 11 mega banks pumped $30 billion into first republic, but to reassure his customers, this ceo of a west texas bank chose a different tactic and he's here to explain. that's next. and former president trump says he expects to be indicted on tuesday. what it means for the future of his presidential campaign, that lies ahead.
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their cash from their own banks and perpetuate this as a crisis? this week as regional bank stocks plummeted and first republic was in peril, there were emergency phone calls among the treasury secretary, jpmorgan chase chief and the result 1 mega banks pulled $30 billion to keep it afloat. $5 billion each from bank of america, wells fargo, jpmorgan and citity. and another billion each from u.s. bank. and the first major threat since 20 ol to a bank of global significance has been averted at least for now. my next guest is the ceo of a bank in texas and took a different approach to reassure his 126,000 customers that their money is in safe hands. in a moment memphis moe, he included his personal cell
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number to reach out to them. joining me is the president and ceo of vara bank for 15 years. it serves 16 counties in east s, central and southeast texas. they have more than 4 billion in assets. thank you for being here. so 70,000 e-mails, i read that you received 50 calls and 100 text messages. i was thinking to myself, if you had done nothing, i'll bet you had heard from a lot more people. you probably put their minds to rest. >> thank you very much. that was the plan. we wanted to communicate directly to our customers. we wanted to tell the truth and make sure they knew if they were concerned, they could reach out to any of my 500 colleagues, but most importantly, they could reach out to me and some of them did. >> what did you hear from your customers? >> the great majority of those folks that reached out to me simply said thank you. thank you for communicating,
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thank you for making us feel better. a handful, probably five or ten, were naturally still concerned. wanted to ask questions about the safety and security of our bank and the industry as a hole. i took the time to talk with them and walk through why they should feel good about their deposits. >> they say chemocalm and carry on. no bank can sustain a run. the point is everybody has to be cool. >> yeah, you have to have confidence. you have to have confidence in the way you have built your bank, the way you managed your bank. the steps you have taken to ensure that you protected your customers and i need to say that that is exactly what we have done for many years. and that's exactly what the great majority of the banks in this country have done also. >> i had a conversation on my
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radio program this week with former congressman barney frank. he proposes going forward. he proposed two months of ability to meet payroll going forward. does that make sense there be a different standard for each? >> that would be very difficult to do. i have not heard that. i have not thought through that. you think about all of the small and large businesses in this country. how you determine what their payroll is, how you manage the insurance against that, how the fdic would manage that, i'm not saying it's not possible, with us it seems like that would be a real task. >> it's been a complicated week for those who lack your expertise. what's the message that you as a
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banker want to leave us with from your perspective? >> i truly believe that the banks in this country are safe. there are challenges with them. there are certainly liquidity challenges at surgeon institutions, but most of the institutions you're hearing about were somewhat single f focused. they had to see some heavy crypto exposure or they were heavily into the tech startup business, venture capital and now first republic, most of the banks in this country are well diversified. they have the balance sheet, the capital and liquidity to handle these challenges. i really do believe while there could be some more bad news here soon, i'm not sure, but there could be, i do not believe there's a reason to panic. i do not believe this is systemic. i believe we will be just fine, as we work through these challenges. >> i hope that's the case.
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by the way, your bio laid down a marker. you said you're a classic rock enthusiast, quote, go ahead and challenge him. here's my challenge. you ready? >> yes, sir. >> he was a member of humble pie in the 1970s he had one of the best live selling double albums ever, and i say -- you beat me to it. i was going to say outrageously not even a member of the rock and roll hall of fame, but well done. nice ily done. appreciate it. thank you, brad. >> he should be. >> he should be. absolutely right. no doubt. thank you, sir. up ahead on more serious matters, former president trump expected to be arrested and calling for protests. this as a nonpartisan group busy securing ballot position for the
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presidential election. could a candidate who runs t third-party actually win or just spoil someone else's chances. plus san francisco despite never having had slavery in its history considering a plan that would make it the first major u.s. city to pay for systemics racism. how might that work and cost and who might be eligible. we have the key guests coming up. go to smerconish.com and answer this week's poll question. you can use the qr code if you'd like. is the military support being given to cukraine intended to defend against russia or to actually win the war?
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candidates mugt have a shot in 2024? specifically, what are the chances for a third party candidate and would that person just prove to be a spoiler? the organization no labels has been working with what it calls great determination to provide an option to nominate an independent presidential candidate in 2024. writing that no labels operation is a $70 million effort of which $46 million has been raised or pledged. the media has report ed no labes has secured a ballot place in three states for the next presidential cycle. colorado, arizona and oregon. the group has submitted petitions in several others and says their goal is to be on the ballot in all 50 states. it would suffice to win the electoral college. this news is alarming to some democrats who think the effort could split the democratic vote and ensure a gop victory.
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no labels released a statement clarifying its role. they have said this is an insurance policy in the event both major parties normal nat presidential candidates that the vast majority of americans don't want. if this happens, no labels will itself not run a candidate, but we will have a launching pad specifically in a form of ballot access across the country. by that measure, this could become reality. consider that joe biden's nomination would seem a certainty, should he run, and all polls have donald trump currently leading the gop field. polls also show many americans don't want either. a post abc poll finds 58% of democrats say they prefer someone other than biden as their norminee in 2024. almost double the 31% who support biden. among republicans and republican-leaning independents, 49% say they prefer their nominee to be someone other than trump compared to 44% who favor him. among those who think that this could benefit trump is the
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democrat you can strategist and cnn political commentator, he wrote, here's the simple reality as i see it. in recent elections, most voters who reject extremism have tend ed to vote democratic. this means the vast maujty of votes that a presidential candidate would receive would likely come out of joe biden's pool of voters, not former president trump's, assume ing t 2024 election turns out to be a rematch. remember, in 2020, president biden won three states by less than 1%. this week a think tank published a memo caution ing the plan wil only hurt democrats. siting the spoil isser alert. it warned rather than producing a third-party ticket to win, no labels is on track to field a spoiler, who would reelect trump or a trump-like republican. in response, no labels posted a statement that read in part, no
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one has any interest in fuelling a spoiler effort. join ing me to discuss is forme ohio congressman and senatorial candidate tim ryan, who himself ran for president in 2020. he's currently a senior visiting fellow at third way. i am part of the 44% who identify as independent. what about us? don't we get a seat at the table? >> absolutely. you'll have a choice. the idea is not just should we have third party candidates. most americans believe we should have more choices, not less. but you have to view this as an anti-democrat you can movement happening this the country. to put sunshine in place that would tilt the balance towards the insurrectionists, towards the people who don't believe in democracy, towards the people who think that democracy should die and with should put a
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seizure in charge to figure things out. that's who these people are, is a big mistake. if you believe in america f you believe in democracy, you should not be fueling a third party candidate in this election. you might do it for congressional races and presidential races down the road. not this time. >> we're still arguing about whether ross perot pull ed more from papa bush or bill clinton. are you so sure that this would harm joe biden as compared to donald trump in 2024? if we get a rematch? >> i think paul begala has hit the nail on the head. people are voting against the extremists. so those votes, if they get split in any way, shape or form, it tilts the balance towards the antidemocratic movement that's happening in the country. pz and it's really very clear. you see liz cheney, you see adam
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kinzinger, republican who is have courage and stood up to the antidemocratic movement, those voters, even in ohio when i ran, we got 400,000 voters who voted for a republican governor and a democrat for senate here in ohio because they didn't want to support the antidemocratic movement happening. and that's kind of what's happening. you throw a third party spoil e it's going to tilt the balance towards the maga crowd, the people who are defending the people who stormed the capitol and are raising money for legal funds, those are the people that are going to be in chashlg of the government. and just think in this particular election, we can't have that. >> i hear you. i don't let my silence interpreted as agreement. i truly am one of the 44% that they try to say, well, you lean one way or the other.
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i think we need a voice. i have so to ask you a national democratic figure to rea account this news of the day that donald trump says i'm going to get arrested on tuesday. >> i don't think a lot of us who have been watching donald trump and his family operate over the last few years are going to be surprised by it. clearly, they were doing all kinds of stuff. you look at rudy giuliani. you look at his campaign managers shs his team and what they were doing, who were surrounding him for such a long period of time, members of the trump organization, i can't sigh anybody is dwoing to be surprised by this. but we have to be very disciplined as citizens and say follow the lie. if he did wrong, he should be prosecuted like any guy in ohio did wrong. but he should also have due process and this needs to play out. you're a lawyer. you understand this. he has every right as a citizen to have due process. and if it goes down the road, which it looks like it's going
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to, a prosecution and a conviction, then that should bes based on the merits of the case on the fact that we disagree with his political issues or anything else. this has to be by the book, and it is. and we'll see where it ends up. >> doesn't the partisan side of you wish that it had been fullton county or jack smith, meaning merrick garland, and not the sex case from new york? >> i have no comment on that. but the reality is donald trump has done a lot of wrong. i can't quarterback who is doing what. i wish there were republican leaders who had courage, which many have not in the last few years when it comes to donald trump, those leaders whether they are attorney generals in those states who boxed at trying to administer the law and
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enforce the law, but you have somebody in manhattan here that sounds like they are going to do it. and we should just be glad that no citizen, no matter how rich, how powerful, even when it's a former president is above the law. no one in america is above the law. and we're going to find that out this week. >> i'm limited on time, but is that a young tim ryan with rfk behind you? >> no, it's a coal miner in west virginia. it's one of the great political pictures of all time of bobby kennedy campaigning with coal miners. we have had this conversation before. that's where democrat leaders need to be. they need to be putting their arms around coal miners and steel workers and working class people in the south. white, black, brown, gay, straight, go after these workers and that's what bobby kennedy did and that's why i keep this picture up as a reminder when the democratic party is at its
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best, it's putting its arms around coal miners that got coal ash and all kinds of other stuff around them. i keep it here as a reminder. >> congressman, thank you. appreciate you coming back. >> thank you. social media, what do we have in terms of reaction? smerconish, you know there isn't a chance of a conviction here. with regard to trump, i have ranked previously here. many of you didn't like my ranking in terms of the cases from the four buckets that i perceive against trump. i thought mar-a-lago obstruction, if that's what it is, was the strongest, cleanest, straight forward. ask then came the revelation of biden and pence classified materials in it their house. it queues the cause in the court of public opinion. then i thought, fullton county, pretty strong then what? the jury foreperson emerges and
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gets her 15 minutes of fame and i think plays into trump's defense team in saying that process, that investigation is now been watered down. this, to me, was the weakness of them. remember this. the feds passed on this case. if it materializes on tuesday, vote on today's poll question at smerconish.com. it pertains to something toetaly different. is the military support by u.s. and nato intended just to defend against russia or is the goal here actually to win? you can use the qr code if you choose. still to come, in san francisco, an advisory board submitted 100 proposals aim to congressmen sate for racism including paumts of $5 million to every eligible black adult, the elimination of personal debt, guaranteed annual income and more. is it feasible? i will ask the vice chair of that committee. re is here. we've been creating it for more than 100 years,
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will san francisco be the first american city to award reparations to black residents? the african-american reparations advisory committee made more than 100 recommendations to the city's board of superviruses. among them, payments of $5 million to every eligible black dushlgts the elimination of personal debt and tax burdens, guaranteed incomes of $97,000 for 250 years and homes in san francisco for just $1 as a family. the idea of reparations has been gaining traction nationally. the town of evanston, illinois, implemented them in march of 2021. other cities and towns have been wrestling with this complicated issue. in 2020 california became the first state to form a r reparations task force in san francisco blacks account for less than 6% of the residents down from 13% 50 years ago. 38% of its homeless population.
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the payouts make no sense in a city and state that never enslaved black people. the hoover institution puts the total cost as to each nonblack family in the city at $600,000 each. a final committee report due in june. joining me to discuss is the vice chair of the african-american reparations advisory committee. thank you for being here. how do you -- okay, we don't have her. we to have her, we don't, i hope you're there. how are you? there she is. a little technical glitch. how do you distinguish the orangeal sin when other groups say we were discriminated against as well. >> so i mean, obviously, discrimination requires individuals who pursue legal action and there are many groups, many types of eem that
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experience discrimination, but reparations is not exclusively about discrimination it's specifically about government practices enacted and enforced that includes things like redlining and covenance, things that the government participated in and there's a distinction there. you know the people watching this, people who read the stories all week long are asking, with us how can you ever pay for it. how in the world could $5 million in payouts be achieve achieved? >> well, that specific number is to be determined by the san francisco board of supervisors in terms of what san francisco can afford to pay. but to your previous notion, it really is no way to codify the damages done to the black community. the idea behind the recommendations and this partnership with the city and county of san francisco is to work towards repairing the harm in the five areas we have called
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out. there's no timeline on how long it takes to repair centuries of harm. we have centuries of harm should be met with centuries of repair. that extends beyond financial compensation. >> a friend who is san franciscoen said the best thing that could be done for black san francisco residents is to arrest drug dealers and create more shelter. to him ask to everybody else, you'd say what? >> that clearly has racial undertones. what other community would a recommendation be made in terms of how to stabilize it? the issues that black americans and specifically black san franciscoens have experienced are directly connected to racism. and we want to see that damage repaired. >> was there something unique to the black experience in the bay city or is it that the politics
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are so progressive there that this issue gets mature, unlike other parts of the country? >> well, obviously, there's a lot of different unique factors about san francisco, one being it's a city and a county. the other being that the migration of black san franciscoens over a short amount of time has been significant. but in terms of the traction that the conversation is getting, i think leaders in san francisco, community members in san francisco and california overall have been open to the conversation about reparations for black americans because the harm is so clear and so apparent. and been documented. so we have an opportunity, and i'm glad to see the government is being responsive to that opportunity. >> thank you for your willingness to come on and educate about this issue that is sethin receiving a lot of attention.
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we appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. more social media reaction. what do we have? from the world of twitter. follow me on twitter, by the way. david, as a person of color, i'm sick of hearing about these reparation policies. they are dayivisive and will ner happen. not one penny will ever be paid out. i read the proposal that was put forth. to one can deny, as i voiced to my guest, the original sin and the fact that we have never been able to mauk up for that. having said it, i think that that $5 million number and headline was harmful to this argument and cause because that's what everybody latched on frankly, that's what i latched on to. still to come, more of the best and worst social media comments. also, have you voted yet on this woke's poll question? please do so now at smerconish.com. register for the free daily newsletter while you are there. i'm asking is the military support given to ukraine by the u.s. and nato, is that intended
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