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seen here driving around the ukrainian city of mariupol, despite facing an arrest warrant from the international criminal court. we'll have details, plus a look at where things stand to understand the efforts to charge war crimes against him. here in the u.s., the manhattan d.a. is responding to trump calling for protests in the case he's arrested. and the successionist movement inside of america. why a chunk of one state wants to redraw the map and get absorbed by its neighbor. >> announcer: live from cnn center, this is "cnn newsroom" with kim brunhuber. we begin with russian president vladimir putin making his first visit to occupied ukraine since the war began. look, this is video of him driving through the city of mariupol, which russia occupied last year. the city suffered heavy damage and fighting and became the symbol of ukraine's resistance to moscow's aggression.
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the kremlin says putin also stopped in their neighborhood and spoke to residents. they say he was invited into one of their homes. early on saturday, putin flew to crimea to mark the ninth anniversary since russia announced the annexation of the ukrainian peninsula. the move was made after russia sent in troops and staged a hasty referendum in 2014. ukraine says crimea has been suffering under kremlin rule. kyiv also said it's only a matter of time before all of its occupied lands are liberated. cnn's clare sebastian joins us from london with more. what message is putin trying to send here? >> kim, these visits were unannounced and come just a day, of course, after an arrest warrant was issued by the international criminal court against vladimir putin, himself. obviously with crimea, it was designed to coincide with the anniversary of that annexation, the ninth anniversary. but visiting mariupol, which we believe is the first time he's visited russian-occupied territories in ukraine since the invasion began, that may be read as an act of defiance, a
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low-risk one, it should be noted given that this is russian-occupied territory. still, thumbing his nose, potentially, at that arrest warrant. in terms of the russian people and how this is being presented to them, look, he's seen behind the car there driving from the airport in mariupol towards mariupol. we believe the last time we saw him behind the wheel of a car was driving a truck across the kirsch bridge to crimea that was blown up in the autumn, and partially rebuilt by russia. it's designed to project control that he's in charge. i think there's also an element of normalizing these territories as part of russia. he's there with the deputy prime minister, discussing reconstruction of apartment buildings. they even visit the philharmonic, which is not far from that drama theater that was bombed by russia almost a year ago to the day in what is believed to be the biggest, perhaps, mass casualty event of this war, that you see him sitting in the philharmonic.
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the deputy prime minister also noted that they expect to have a performance at the drama theater as soon as april. so very much touting their reconstruction efforts here. of course, they've been doing this kind of normalization with crimea since 2014. so i think that's the message they're trying to get across, but of course, ukraine is making it very clear that any kind of negotiation with russia will have to involve the return of these territories, something that russia is clearly taking off the table. >> thanks so much. clair sebastian in london. appreciate it. for more on this, i'm joined in kyiv by international human rights lawyer, wayne jordash. thanks so much for being here with us. i want to start by getting your reaction to what we were just talking about. the day after the icc issues an arrest warrant for putin, putin shows up in mariupol, a site of many alleged war crimes by russia. >> yes, i mean, obviously, as your previous speaker just said, it's some kind of act of
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defiance, but a rather empty gesture in the end. the arrest warrant he now faces will severely restrict his movement internationally. so heading to russian-occupied territory, which belongs to ukraine may be an act of defiance, but as i say, it doesn't speak to the bigger problem he now faces. >> as an international human rights lawyer, you have a lot of experience dealing with the international criminal court. how do they make the case against putin. what kind of evidence will they be relying on here? >> well, for this particular narrow set of charges, which relates to the deportation of children from russian-occupied territory into russia, the evidence really consists of two or three main points. firstly, his public appearances, where he clearly accepts along
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with the commission for human rights which is also subject to an arrest warrant, that they are involved in a scheme of so-called adoption. so there's the public admissions from putin. secondly, there's a presidential decree, which again implicates putin and the government in relation to these adoptions. and then, of course, there's the evidence from the ground. that is thousands of children going missing from russian-occupied territory. many of them with parents and disappearing into russia. so it's the scheme, plus the admission. but i would also say this. putin is subject to an arrest warrant on the basis of superior responsibility, which basically means that he has not prevented those crimes or punished them. and that's why his admissions publicly are so important. it's essential a proving of these crimes when's giving these
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public comments, and therefore admitting to failing to exercise his superior responsibility, which is a really serious issue. >> yeah, and you were speaking about sort of those narrow charges, but obviously, there's going to be many more your organization has experienced with these mobile justice teams that collect evidence in cases like these. so what's involved with that. and what kind of challenges do you and other investigators face? >> well, our mobile justice teams are essentially a support structure for the prosecution. at the moment, there are hundreds of prosecutors and thousands of police officers and hundreds of state security officers from ukraine in the field gathering evidence. and it's a really difficult task. number one, because the volume of crimes is absolutely overwhelming. russia's tactics, essentially, focus on attacking civilians, so that gives rise to literally thousands of potential crimes
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every time an area is liberated, mass graves are recovered, detention facilities are recovered. there's forcible displacement, there's theft of children, so on and so forth. so it's a very difficult job on the ground to actually collect evidence. and that's the first phase. that essentially builds a picture of who did what on the ground. the next phase is the most difficult phase, and that's building up the chain of command. who ordered those crimes, who facilitated them, who designed them, who controls them, and that tracking up the chain of command is how you implicate people, politicians, such as putin. >> and, you know, so you're saying that the volume of the material is daunting, but also when it comes to the digital evidence, sifting through all of it and especially determining what's real and what isn't, that must be a huge challenge as well? >> well, this is undoubtedly the
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most documented crime base or conflict the world has ever seen. there are literally thousands of organizations documenting these crimes. and of course, there's a whole prosecution and judicial operators here documenting these crimes. and of course, we live in the digital age. so everything is photographed, everything appears on video. there's open source experts such as belling kat and so on collecting evidence. it's a really daunting collection of evidence. we're talking about hundreds of thousands of videos, hundreds of thousands of photographs and so on and so forth. so trying to sift through that is going to be the challenge. much of that regrettably will not be that useful in a courtroom. your amateur investigator is -- can be extremely crucial to an investigation, but much of what they collect can also be collected in a way which is just not admissible in a trial
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process. you can't verify the video, you can't authenticate the photograph. you just cannot understand its relevance, its probative value. so it's a really, it's a great thing to have all of this documentation, but it's also a real problem in terms of being able to sift through it and build a case -- a coherent and robust case. >> yeah. you tweeted about those icc charges, that this is just essentially the first step, certainly a long road ahead. appreciate your time, international human rights lawyer, wayne jordash, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. in a significant breakthrough, serbia and kos ov has reached a deal to normalize relations. it was announced by the european union's top diplomat in a tweet after he met with leaders from both countries. they have been in eu-backed
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talks for nearly ten years. serbia doesn't recognize ko kosovo's providence. south korea's military says north korea conducted another missile launch on sunday. this time a short-range ballistic missile. japan's defense ministry says it reached an altitude of about 31 miles and flew nearly 500 miles before landing in the sea between japan and the korean peninsula. this follows multiple recent tests by pyongyang, including an international ballistic missile launch last thursday. now, the tests coincide with ongoing military exercises between the u.s. and south korea. here in the u.s., there's been strong reaction to claims donald trump made about his potential indictment in new york. the former president says he expects to be arrested on tuesday over an investigation into a hush money payment. on social media, he called on
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supporters to protest, echoing the same angry rhetoric he used before the 2021 insurrection. republicans have rallied behind their former leader, condemning the possible indictment as a political witch hunt. here's former vice president mike pence. >> the idea of indicting a former president of the united states is deeply troubling to me as it is to tens of millions of americans. and particularly happening in what appears to be a politically charged environment in new york, where the attorney general and other elected officials literally campaigned on a pledge to prosecute a former president. the american people have every right to peaceably assemble and let their voice be heard. and i think it's extremely important. the people have a right to express themselves. and express the frustration that they feel to see a liberal manhattan d.a. poised to indict a former president of the united
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states. but that being said, there can be no tolerance for the kind of violence that we saw on january 6th or throughout the summer of 2020. >> u.s. house speaker kevin mccarthy called the case an outrageous abuse of power, but the d.a. is pushing back. in a statement to staff, he said, we do not tolerate attempts to threaten our office. our law enforcement partners will ensure that any specific or credible threats against the office will be fully investigated. cnn's kristen holmes has more on trump's possible indictment and how his legal team is preparing. >> former president trump's team has yet to get any sort of official notification from the manhattan district attorney's office about this potential indictment. but that doesn't mean they're not anticipating and preparing for this. they have been huddled at mar-a-lago, going over a plan, looking at various scenarios. one of which includes how to get the former president in and out of new york. the other is this potential for a remote hearing. several of trump's legal
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advisers have urged him to try to ask for a remote hearing, citing security concerns, but it's just not clear whether or not he's going to do that. in part because he has told people around him he might want to make a statement from outside of the courthouse. the other thing that this team is focusing on really is messaging. we know how important that is to former president trump. i am told that they are considering hiring a tv-friendly lawyer who can go out there, do all the media, do the communications around this. and we do know that they've already started to beef up their staff, add people who can focus just on the messaging around this potential indictment. one of the messages that they are trying to send is that this is going to make trump politically stronger in 2024. and what we've seen all day saturday was republicans really rallying around the former president. and that included the former vice president, mike pence, as well as the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy, who called on the committees to investigate in this investigation, in new york, seeing if there was any federal
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funding used. he also called the potential indictment outrageous. kristen holmes, cnn, washington. >> earlier, i discussed this with a political analyst and president of the global policy institute at loyola marimount university and asked him what the indictment could mean for trump's 2024 campaign and whether it could hurt him or help him. >> it's an odd situation in that i think it will help and hurt. it will help him within his party, within his base. it will strengthen the bonds between donald trump and his base. and he'll saying, they're doing this to me, but they're doing it to you. so that will likely rev up the support within his base. but not necessarily within the party, in a broader sense. and certainly not within the nation. anytime a president or a presidential candidate is indicted, it's going to raise some questions. we've had circumstances like this in the past, very rarely with eugene debs running as a
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socialist candidate from prison. it's possible to run while indicted, it's possible to run while in trial, it's possible to run while in prison. that certainly doesn't speak well to the ultimate electability in the general election. >> yeah, we have a few moments, but, you know, this question is kind of unknowable. what do you expect to happen to trump himself? will he try to go quietly, so to speak. or will it be useful for him to be arrested and to have a highly visible process here? >> it would be out of character for donald trump to go anywhere quietly under any circumstances. he has to be the center of attention for everything. and there's an old line from teddy roosevelt's daughter who once said, poor dad, he has to be the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral, and the baby at every christening. that's also an apt description of donald trump. he has to be the center of attention. he demands it. plus, he is a magnet for television. i mean, people are drawn to him because he's such a character and nflamboyant and interesting.
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he's a great, great storyteller. and story telling is important for us to acknowledge our existence and to acknowledge our connections. donald trump tells a story that his base responds to. you've been put upon, i am here to save you, tomorrow we will be together and better. and as long as he keeps telling those stories to his base, he won't be going away quietly. >> all right. still ahead, mass protests against a plan to curb the power of israel's judiciary, while some believe the proposal is a distraction created by prime minister netanyahu. and more allegations of violence and voter suppression are being reported in nigeria. ville a live report from lagos coming up. stay with us. keeps flaring, put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill.
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for an 11th straight week, hundreds of thousands protesters filled the streets on saturday. they're voicing their opposition to president benjamin netanyahu's plan to overhaul israel's judicial system. the proposal would allow lawmakers to overturn supreme court decisions with a simple majority. now, many fear that changes will weaken the country's highest court and erode democratic checks and balances.
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eliot gotkin is in jerusalem and joins me now. what's the latest on the protests? >> reporter: it's becoming almost as predict as night following day, that on a saturday evening, there will be mass protests against the government's judicial overhaul. there are over a million people reportedly out on the streets last night, and they are protesting because they are concerned that this government's judicial overhaul will effectively remove all checks and balances on the government of the day, namely allowing the government to choose supreme court justices and preventing the supreme court striking down any laws passed by the parliament or ka neknesset. now, the prime minister says that all he's doing is restoring the balance between the supreme court and the government, that things had gotten out of kilter. the supreme court had too much power, and he is simply trying to address the balance. those people out on the streets do not buy that. they are concerned about the erosion of israel's claim to be a liberal and jewish democracy.
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they are concerned about the impact on the economy. and about an erosion of their freedoms. their freedom of expression, their freedom of worship, their freedom to demonstrate, as they have been doing now for almost three months. they also think that this is rarely just a ploy by benjamin netanyahu to somehow get out of their ongoing corruption trial. earlier in the week, we heard from president isaac hertzol. he warns that if a compromise isn't reached, that israel is on the brink of civil war. but the proposals were rejected out of hand by prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the result of that is that the government's judicial overhaul plans will continue to wind their way through parliament. the government wants its passed by the jewish festival of passover, which begins early next month, and the protests at the same time will continue. and the latest we're hearing on this, kim, is that according to
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the public profbroadcaster, the are hundreds of reservists that are failing to turn up for their duty. but for now, no signs of compromise at pall. >> thank you so much. in pakistan, there was a dramatic standoff as prime minister imam khan appeared in court on saturday. protest the police stormed khan's house removing camps. khan says the recent events are an attempt to keep him from returning to power. here he is. >> powerful people are behind it. and my life is even more at threat than it was then. because theme people are all sitting in powerful positions, worried that any come back into power, they know that we will win. they're trying to make sure that
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i don't get there. >> facing a spate of legal challenges that have sparked week-long clashes between his supporters and the police. thousands of people in paris protesting for a third day against the increase in the retirement age from 62 to 64. protesters marched through a train station and a shopping center, chanting, "macron, go away." some demonstrators clashed with the police. anger is growing after his government pushed through the pension reform without a full parliamentary vote. donald trump tries to rally his base as he faces an indictment he says is imminent. but will he get the same support he had as president? a national security analyst weighs in ahead. stay with us. and it's natural. treat it that way. aveeno® daily moisture with prebiotic oat is proven toto moisturize dry skin all day. you'll love our formula for face, too.
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welcome back to all of you watching us here in the united states, canada, and around the world. i'm kim brunhuber. this is "cnn newsroom." let's get more on our top stories this hour. donald trump says he expects to be arrested on tuesday over an version into a hush money payment on social media. the former president urged supporters to protest, echoing the rhetoric he used before the 2021 insurrection. many republicans have rallied behind him, but others say it's time for the party to move on. here's former congressman and potential presidential candidate, mike rogers. >> i do think it's important for americans to start moving on. we as republicans need to look at 2024. my argument is, protesting is fine, violence is not. it's off the table. and so, you know, hopefully,
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that's what he's calling for, is peaceful protests. that is fully accepted in the united states, as we should all accept that. and anything more than that, that obviously will become problematic. >> cnn national security analyst juliette kayyem says even if trump is indicted, he may not get the same support he had before the insurrection. here she is. >> the times have changed. and trump will begin to realize that. one is, he's not in power, so he can't direct law enforcement agencies. hundreds of people are in jail or have been indicted. he cannot promise to pardon people. law enforcement, as we're reporting, is clearly on notice, and he's thrown out this tuesday. i kind of doubt it, or int interviewing a witness on monday. the tuesday date is probably trump wanting to have us all look at tuesday. it doesn't happen, and him saying, look, they don't have it. so we just wait until there's actually movement.
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>> there have been more reports of voter disenfranchisement and violence during saturday's governorship elections in nigeria. many of them in the nation's largest city, lagos. that's where a labor party official said one of its agents was shot and killed. and at the victoria garden city gated complex in laglagos, disturbed residents told cnn what happened when election officials made an unexpected change. >> so people came out here today to find that the polling unit had been moved. of course, as a community, we did not receive any formal communication to say that the polling unit was being moved. of course, where i'm struggling, as chairman, to tell people to vote, because i'm uncertain of the legality of that polling unit, because you want to ensure that people's votes actually count. >> for more on this, i'm joined by stephanie busari in lagos. so it sounds like the problems we feared might happen are
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materializing, quite serious problems, in fact. take us through what you're seeing. >> just a quick update on that situation. voting is now underway in that area, i'm told. just to give you an update. and that's one of ten polling units that were -- that elections your postponed until today. so we saw, we feared, many n nigerians feared that the polls would be, would have issues, just like they did in the presidential elections. and that's what happened. we have widespread reports of violence. people being stopped from voting, because they were not voting for a particular party, and many people telling us that if they were not voting for the ruling apc party, then they were stopped for voting through violence, through threats, through intimidation, and this was widespread through the country, kim. one man told us he was approached by two men holding a broken bottle and telling him
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that he must vote a particular way or leave the polling station. and he left without voting. and this was happening across the country. and we've reached out -- the electoral commission says it's looking into reports of these incidents, and we have also reached out to the ruling apc party to get a comment on this. i spoke to one voter who expressed her sentiments about how the day went. take a listen to what she said. >> a lot of people coming out, shooting, my mom was complaining, they're shooting here. she called my dad to come back home. i mean, it's really bad. i'm sorry. if this is what is called democracy, this is not a democratic situation. >> reporter: so kim, you heard
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there, this is not a democratic process. and that is a sentiment that many people are expressing this morning, as the picture emerges of violence, intimidation, and threats across the country. and, as a result, turnout was low. very, very low turnout across all the polling units that we visited. and i suspect that the official figures will confirm that. people have just lost faith in the democratic process here, in one of the continent's biggest populations, where it really matters, kim. >> yeah, that's a shame to hear. in terms of how much it matters for those who aren't familiar with nigeria's governance system, explain to us what's at stake here. how much power, for example, do the governors have? >> they wield a lot of power. lagos, for example, is one of the wealthiest cities on the continent, with a $4 billion budget, which is bigger than some african nations. so the government here have
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considerable influence. they control everything, education, roads, power, all the infrastructure and the things that you would expect in a social contract between government and their citizen sits in executive branch of power here. it is -- they have considerable influence over lives of it hases here, kim. >> hopefully, the problems that you're documenting there are the exceptions and that largely throughout the country, they will be fair and peaceful. appreciate your reporting, stephanie busari. thank you so much. historic proclamation for president joe biden could be in the works. i'll speak to a tribal leader as a section of the western u.s. looks set to become a new national monument. plus, some conservatives in eastern oregon are trying to succeed and join republican-dominated idaho. why the movement isn't as far-fetched as it might sound. stay with us. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supportingng 6 key indicators
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rescuers are searching for surviving in malawi, days after cyclone freddy tore through the region for a second time. authorities in malawi say at least 438 people died in the storm. more than 900 have been injured and nearly 300 are still missing. the storm caused flooding and mud slides and it's displaced more than 79,000 households. at least 16 people are dead and more than 380 injured after a magnitude 6.8 earthquake in ecuador on saturday. the epicenter was in the southern part of the country, near the pacific coast, not far from the major city of wyakil. you're looking at the port city of port of bolivar. multiple roads were blocked by landslides. this is the damage in a u.n. world heritage city. the u.s. could soon have a
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new national monument. a source says president joe biden is expected to give that designation to nearly half a million acres around spirit mountain in southern nevada this week. it would mark the largest area president biden has placed under national conservation during his time at the white house. the move would put the land off-limits to development and also expand habitat areas for several species, including bighorn sheep and deer. it would also fulfill a promise he made to tribal leaders in november. joining me now is timothy williams, chairman of the ft. mohave indian tribe. thanks so much for being here with us. just to start off, it's not an area many of us will have visited. so describe for us the land, what it looks like and what makes it so special. >> well, what makes it special right now, and again, thank you for the opportunity to come on the show on behalf of the ft. mohave indian tribe and all of our members. what's great about it is the
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landscape right now, in its current state. and i think that's why it's so important that the national monument gets on and is actually signed by the president. right now, you have a vast landscape of desert, where you boent have a lot of intrusion in there when it comes to, you have las vegas, and you have southern nevada. but man, the area is just wide open with a lot of the landscape that there's currently no real strong infrastructure all the way across it. the 450,000 acres that are proposed right now. and the national monument is based upon our sacred mountain, but it's so much bigger than that with the entire landscape. >> and you talk about the landscape, you have those unique joshua trees that people may be familiar with, so many unique species of plants and animals. and you mentioned spirit mountain. the creation of this monument is so significant for indigenous people.
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explain that for us. >> yes, it's -- for the ft. mohave indian tribe, it is the place of our creation. it's where we begin. a lot of the song cycles that are sung amongst, not only for ft. mohave, but all up and down the river, it's all based upon this mountain. and it is their place of creation. and it's the place where we have that spiritual connection to this earth and to the other side. so definitely, with spirit mountain is sacred to us in many so more ways that are not only tangible, but also intangible. >> so we just want to pop up a map here of the area that currently is protected. and then the larger area that would be protected when this becomes a monument. tribes have often fought environmental battles to preserve the land. i know energy companies had wanted specifically there to develop large-scale wind and solar projects. so what's -- once this becomes a monument, what can and can't be
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done there? >> the biggest thing is the large-scale developments. you know, you'll have those areas that -- and before 2019, when the tribe put a resolution together, project after project after project was coming down the line, you know, and we would go through the process of consultation. and of course, the groups would get together to keep it in a pristine state like it is right now and hopefully how it will be into the future. that's one of the main things that won't be able to happen, is having those large-scale areas. there's designations in different places throughout the state of nevada, and they've really -- the tribes in a lot of places, we've never been against renewable energy. it's just the location of those places. that's one of the biggest wins that we believe that we'll have with the designation is that you won't see these large scales popping up all the time, whether it be wind, whether it be solar in these different areas. >> i'm just wondering, is there any worry in the back of your
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mind that as great as this will be, that it might be reversed? after all, we saw that in utah after president obama designated a huge swath of land, some -- what was it, 1.3 million acres as bear's ear national monument. well, that was later shrunk by some 85% by president trump. and then it was reinstated later by president biden. but it seems that these monuments, far from being these lasting, you know, monuments, as the word suggests, now become political footballs. >>, you know, for us, our job as leaders here within our tribe is to protect, in any way, shape, or form. and no matter what administration is there. it was unfortunate to see all the hard work that those tribes had done, to see the reduction right away. we'll be at the ready. i do come from the marine corps, so we'll always be at the ready when it comes to protecting our
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land and protecting our water for the ft. mohave indian tribe. >> it's certainly very exciting. we appreciate having you on to talk about it, timothy williams. thank you so much. >> all right. appreciate it. thank you. staying in the western u.s., the state of oregon is known for its liberal and even far-left politics, most around cities like portland and the will meth valley. what used to be a far-fetched idea is now getting traction. it's extremely frustrating. the rules and regulations that they're making that make sense in the city don't make sense out here. >> reporter: out here in eastern oregon, the expansive rule region, and sandy gillson's home, where we're walking is a
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world away from the urban cities of the states. >> do you have anything this common with portland? >> sure, we're all people. >> but she says, that's about it. and the signs dotting the east tell you what many people here want, known as the greater idaho movement. re-draw the state line, so liberal portland and the other democratic cities are oregon and eastern oregon overwhelmingly republican, joins largely conservative idaho. nearly all of oregon's 17 eastern county governments have approved plans to leave and form a larger idaho, resembling the logo on sandy gillson's hat. is this about politics or differences? >> both. >> we are very different people. i don't believe that the oregon government as a whole and the super joirs majority that has b
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power there for many decades is listening to eastern oregon at all. >> it just overwhelmingly hit me, this makes sense. >> reporter: so much so that idaho state representative, barbara eheart, a republican, co-sponsored a bill to begin dialogue with oregon. >> these are where all the big decisions are made for the idaho legislature. >> reporter: the bill passed the idaho house and is now before the senate. idaho's government is officially on a path to re-draw its state line for the first time since 1864. >> is it possible? i believe it is. when your government will no longer listen to you, what do you do? we don't want them to start an internal war or ball, but at some point, that's what people are going to turn to if they can't be listened to. so they're turning to us. >> the country is so torn apart right now. >> it is? >> by ideology. >> yes. >> is this your vision of peace?
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>> it is one of the solutions, yes. >> are we going to carve georgia out of atlanta? are we going to carve austin out of texas? are we going to slice michigan? it's a ridiculous road to start to go down. >> state representative elana rubl knows all about being a political minority. she's a democrat in ruby red idaho and voted against the state bill. are you surprised that it has already gotten this far? >> i'm saddened, but i'm not surprised. we are in a time of unprecedented partisanship and hostility. we heard marjorie taylor greene calling for the breakup of america, because it's so unbearable, apparently, for people of differently political ideologies to be living together. >> we don't think of ourselves as a successionist movement, we see ourselves as a self-determination movement. >> are you hearing from other places around the country? >> yes, we are hearing from all over the country. because this is not a problem that's unique to the state of oregon. >> reporter: matt mccall used to live in portland but moved east where he was born, frustrated by
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pandemic policies of the city. laws should match the citizens, he says. >> we can match people up to government they want and everybody gets the government they want and the political tension goes down. >> reporter: should this happen in other places? >> yes, i believe we should. and i think that most americans agree. we should try to give people government that they want. >> reporter: portland's changed. salem's changed. eugene has changed. >> what do you say when the people of those cities say that they're changing with the times and that's the america of today? >> they say it's more progressive to have government tell you what to do. but the people here haven't changed. scientists believe there may have been a glacier on mars and that could mean some form of water is still on the red planet. the ice mass has been gone for eones, but it's thought to have been more than three miles long and two miles wide.
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scientists from the seti and mars institute say a pattern of mineral deposits indicate the glacier's former location near the martian equator. it's significant, because humans are planning to eventually land on mars, perhaps right in this spot. still ahead, the remarkable story of two people diagnosed with lung cancer who are now cancer free. stay with us. i love thee? ...let me count the ways. ♪ love can get a little messy... good thing there's resolve. love the love. resolvlve the mess.
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. here in the u.s., a rare strain of bacteria found in recalled eye drops is being linked to dozens of infections, vision loss, and even one death. the u.s. centers for disease control is urging consumers to stop using ezra care artificial tears, which was first recalled last month. the agency says it has identified 68 patients with infections in 16 states. it also says that anyone with signs or symptoms of an eye infection should seek medical care immediately. and a popular baby formula brand is recalling some of its products due to contamination concerns. the perrigo company is recalling some of its gerber good start
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soothe pro powdered formula. perrigo hasn't received any reports of illnesses, but customers shouldn't use the product and contact them for a refund. two people diagnosed with lung cancer are now considered cancer free after they both received double lung transplants. the surgeries happened at northwestern medicine in chicago. cnn health reporter jacqueline howard has the story. >> this is just incredible. these two lung cancer patients, we're told, they had only weeks or months to live. and now, thanks to their new lungs, they are living with no signs of the disease. albert of chicago and thanaz of minneapolis were each the recipient of a rare double lung transplant procedure. here's how they're doing now with their own words. >> i'm back to work right now. i'm working -- it's not easy, but i'm trying my best.
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and i'm trying to prove something. that whoever has to go through this, if you go back to your normal life. >> every morning when i open my eyes, i just can't believe it. and life has different meaning now. >> and their procedures were complicated. surgeons had to be extra careful that the cancer cells in their old lungs did not spill over into their blood stream or chest cavity. and while the double lung transplant procedure was life-saving for these patients, there are criteria they had to meet to even be considered for the surgery. their cancer must have been contained within the lungs, they had to have tried all treatment options, and they had limited time to live. you know, lung cancer is the leading cause of cancer-related deaths in the united states, responsible for about one in five lives lost due to cancer. back to you. >> all right. that wraps this hour of "cnn
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