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china has not condemned putin's invasion of ukraine. they are buying russian oil and energy resources. >> russian president vladimir putin made a surprise visit to the shattered ukrainian city of mar mariupol. >> he knows he has to get the morale of troops up in any way he can. >> the former president says he expects to be arrested as soon as tomorrow in the stormy daniels hush money case in manhattan. >> i don't think people should
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protest this stuff. we also have a select committee on the weaponization of government. this applies directly to them. i think you'll see actions from them. robert costello is set to appear before the manhattan grand jury. >> i think he has inside knowledge, and we should be paying attention. the city of miami beach is now imposing a spring break curfew after a second deadly shooting. >> there are a lot of policemen, way more security guards. >> they need to shut it off, take the party off the streets. ubs takeover of credit suisse has laid the foundation for greater stability . >> we have more of a crisis with the second and third tier banks. >> this whole tranche of banks has been under regulated for five years now, and people are very concerned about when you lift the hood, what's under the hood. arkansas pulls off the
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upset, down goes kansas. no repeat chance this year. >> put in a lot of work. >> good morning, everyone. and thank you for joining us on this monday morning. we're going to get to the latest that happened in march madness over the weekend. but we're going to start this morning in moscow. just moments ago, the chinese president xi jinping arrived in the russian capital for his three-day high stakes state visit with president putin. later this morning, he's going to meet directly with the russian leader one on one. beijing is calling this trip quote a journey of peace, where she is supposed to help mediate peace talks over ukraine, and western leaders are understandably very skeptical and wary of the two autocratic leaders growing cooperation. matthew chance is live in moscow. obviously this meeting is going to be happening in just a few hours. it's incredibly symbolic for the fact that it's xi's first time
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in russia since they invaded ukraine and the questions about this partnership and what it looks like coming out of this meeting. >> it's a three-day visit. it's not just symbolic because it's the first time since russia's invasion of ukraine. it's a few days after vladimir putin was indicted for war crimes in ukraine as well. and so we're going to have a situation where xi jinping, the ruler of china is going to be standing side by side and having face to face negotiations with an indicted war criminal. and that's something that will send a strong message, i think, both to russia, that china stands by its friend and ally, but also to the rest of the world as well. even though china has said it wants to play an impartial role in brokering a diplomatic solution to the crisis as russians call it, inside ukraine. the fact is that, you know, it is very much showing a strong level of support for the russian leadership.
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what i think many people will be watching for is how far will that relationship extend, the strong political support, diplomatic support. will the chinese provide much needed military aid to the russians. so far they haven't crossed that line, but there is concern if they choose to do so. >> and obviously the u.s. is watching in closely. you have been talking to officials who have been saying they're looking to see if there's tangible agreements coming out of thcis. one thing they have been warning about, whether or not you're going to see china call for a cease fire in ukraine, which they believe would benefit russia here. . >> i mean they have called for a cease fire. last month, china issued a 12-month peace proposal to bring to an end the conflict in ukraine in which a cease fire was part of that. and territorial integrity of u.n. states. it also condemned unilateral sanctions against individuals as well. obviously an inherent criticism
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of the sanctions against russia by the united states and others in the international community. what he didn't specifically do is condemn the russian invasion of ukraine and call for russia to withdraw, which is one of the reasons why that initiative has been getting such a lukewarm response by the united states and others in the west as well. it is something the kremlin says that the two leaders are going to be discussing in more detail over the course of the next three days. >> we'll look what they say. matthew chance in moscow, thank you. >> let's bring in "new york times" correspondent david sanger, thanks for coming back. we fixed the tech. we're blad -- glad you're back. xi jinping is willing to work with vladimir putin to safeguarded international order. this is after putin just before invading ukraine talked about their relationship, these two leaders, as a no limits
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partnership. >> that's right. i worry about two different things here. the first ivan raised before, which is do we see arms and basically do we see the chinese getting further into this war. i think the second thing to look for is whether or not in some kind of peace proposal for an armistice or a cease fire, essentially the chinese come in on the side of the russians to cement the gains that they have right now, and that's why you're hearing from the americans and from president zelenskyy and ukrainians. great concern that china would seek in some ways to reward russia and basically freeze this the way the korean conflict has been frozen now for 50 or 60 years. >> this seems to be what they're really worried about, the u.s., in terms of trying to preempt john kirby who's going to come
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on the program later today, has been saying it would not be acceptable. so china's trying to play this peacemaker. it would not be acceptable for china to come out and say, okay, let's push towards peace right now in this moment because in this moment russia has taken more ukrainian territory than obviously before the invasion. >> that's right. and that's a significant worry. on the other hand, the trends have to be a little bit cautious here, and they have to be cautious because they're worried about europe. they would like to make sure that europe does not join in any sanctions against china, that europe and the united states do not tighten this bond that has been created since the war began, and, you know, europe's a major trading partner for them, and is continuing to take a good deal of technology. i think they're not going to
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want to get in too deep. that's one reason i think they have been cautious so far in providing weapons to the russians. the problem is the russians don't have other places to turn right now. the only other sources are iran, and north carolina, and obviously the quality is not up to what china can give. >> also, david, what it says about china on the world stage because this comes after china just brokered that diplomatic deal with iran and saudi arabia. now we're seeing them try to assert themselves in this way saying that, you know, they are this powerful influence when it comes to international order. >> they would love nothing more than to play the role that the united states played during much of the cold war and post cold war period, which is the central player that everybody had to come to so they could organize the world on the basis of the rules that they consider advantageous, and they think the united states did this from the end of world war ii in 1945 through to just a few years ago,
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and that's why it was so important to them to play this role between iran, and saudi arabia. and would be important to them to do this now. and of course the united states not only doesn't want to give up its position on that, but it also is suspicious that china is not the neutral player it pretends to be. that's what the chinese say about the united states. >> all interesting optics for vladimir putin, especially after just visiting mariupol, going to the war zone, david. what do you make of that? >> it is. i mean, he was doing two or three things there, don. the first is he wanted to say, this is my territory now. you know, this is an area that obviously they not only bombed and destroyed, but it's an area where they kidnapped many of those children for whom he was indicted by the international criminal court because something he was saying is the indictment means nothing to me. in fact, they'll continue with
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all of their activities in mariupol that they have done until now. it was a real act of defiance, and clearly getting the endorsement of having xi jinping show up for their 39th meeting since the two of them took over as leaders. that's pretty significant. >> david sanger, always a pleasure. good to see you, thank you so much. in other news now, it could be an eventful week in manhattan with a possible indictment looming over donald trump. the former president says he expects to be arrested as soon as tomorrow in the stormy daniels hush money case. the time line remains unclear. sources telling me if and when the indictment happens, trump is expec expected to surrender, he'll have his mug shots and finger prints taken like everyone else. looking to discredit the star witness, who is michael cohen. as their request, cohen's former lawyer is set to testify today
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before the grand jury, and we're told that he came forward and offered evidence to contradict some of cohen's claims. i want to bring in cnn's kara scannell, live outside the courthouse in manhattan this morning. good morning. what will we see, if anything, today? >> reporter: good morning, don. as you said, bob costello is expect to go appear today. several years ago he was remitting michael cohen in connection with this hush money investigation. a source tells us that costello reached out to the manhattan district attorney's office and attorneys for trump saying that he had information that would contradict the testimony of michael cohen. cohen pled guilty to federal charges saying he made these hush money payments in coordination with and at direction of former president trump. costello expected today, trump's attorneys asked the d.a.'s office to bring him in.
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they think he's being brought in for the optics of it. he will have the opportunity to go before the grand jury. t cohen saying on msnbc over the weekend, he was asked to come in, he wasn't sure if it was to go before the grand jury or to meet with the d.a.'s office. now, over the weekend with trump's calls for protests saying he expects to be arrested and charged this week, the d.a.'s office sent an e-mail to staff saying that they will not tolerate any attempts to intimidate them. >> kara scannell, thank you. kevin mccarthy is vowing to investigate manhattan's district attorney. listen to this. >> doesn't matter what side of the issue you're on, it doesn't matter if this was president trump or if this was a democrat. it should be equal justice in america. and stop going after people because you have political
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differences. >> capitol hill reporter, melanie zanona is live where house republicans are having their annual retreat. you're the one who interviewed kevin mccarthy just a few months ago. is this surprising? >> reporter: no, not at all. he is offering a full-throated defense of former president donald trump. he called an arrest an outrageous abuse of power. he said the manhattan d.a. is radical. he attacked them. and he's even promised that republican committees are going to investigate whether federal funds were used to probe this hush money payment. he told us at a press conference that he's talked to committee chairman jim jordan about investigating this. he hinted there could be action as soon as today. republicans moving quickly to line up in defense of trump. there was one area where kevin mccarthy broke with donald trump. that is over calls for protests.
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take a listen. >> i don't think people should protest this, no. i think president trump, if you talk to him, he doesn't believe that either. he's not talking in a harmful way, and nobody should. nobody should harm one another in this. >> of course kevin mccarthy was treading pretty carefully there. he has credited his entire speakership to donald trump, but interestingly enough, he has not endorsed donald trump for president yet, and i asked him last night, whether he thinks it's prappropriate for donald trump to run for president if he's ultimately convicted of a crime. it's his prerogative and constitutional right. >> good question, that's a fascinating point that he hasn't endorsed him yet. he said, i don't think president trump has called for that, but over the weekend, president trump called for exactly that in terms of calling for protests and saying, quote, take our nation back, if he is arrested. >> right. and you could tell that mccarthy was at the same time trying to break with trump, trying to call
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for calmness, but he was also trying to defend trump at the same time. he was trying to sort of explain away his comments for him. and that's a common predicament for republicans here, you know, they really wanted to focus this retreat on their upcoming policy battles, they wanted to strategize a plan to preserve their fragile majority in 2024, and instead they are playing defense for donald trump. he has dominated the political conversation at this policy retreat. that is frustrating for some republicans. at the end of the day, trump is a dominate force inside the house gop. most republicans are happy to defend him. >> trump, front and center once again at this republican gathering. melanie, thanks very much for the reporting. a lot of speculation on what this could look like. we have new reporting this morning on what's happening behind the scenes with another trump investigation as prosecutors in atlanta are considering bringing racketeering and conspiracy charges potentially in connection with trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election in
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georgia. don, you know, we have been talking about this, what this could look like, as this investigation may be potentially more damaging if this is something they decide to pursue. >> you know that because you have been reporting extensively on all of these investigations as well. and we know they're not specifically, especially in georgia, naming the former president, but you heard what the jurors who came out of that said. i think they said a momentous or huge, that's not the exact terminology. we have been discussing this. i have been talking with someone with knowledge of the investigation. they say prosecutors, massive is the word i was looking for, they say prosecutors have a large volume of substantial evidence related to a conspiracy from inside and outside of the state. that includes recordings of phone calls, e-mails, text messages, documents and testimony before a special grand jury. now, the fulton county district attorney, fani willis could make decisions on charges this s spring.
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that is what the source is telling me. cnn legal analyst, elie honig is here to break it down. i'm so glad you're here to talk about this. this is right up your alley. you have taught this prosecution, rico and conspiracy and racketeering, that's what you do. . >> class is in session, you ready? >> class is in session. >> when we're thinking about how a case could be charged, we start with the base level crimes. the d.a. is looking at election interference and fraud. you reported they're considering conspiracy. that's a loaded word. an agreement, a meeting of the minds between two or more people to commit a crime, and if you go up to racketeering, this is a powerful tool prosecutors use. you have to show two things, first of all, the existence of what we call a racketeering enterprise. that can be a mafia family, a drug trafficking organization but it can also be a corporation or a political entity, and then you have to show they engagedin
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what we call a pattern, they committed two or more crimes in an organized fashion, which brings us to this other new piece of information. there's a third phone call. we know about the phone call to brad raffensperger, there's a public recording of donald trump talking to frances, we know trump called the former georgia speaker of the house, asking him to convene a special session. don, ads we know, we have heard from special grand jurors who have come out. they told us they recommended indictments for more than a dozen people. now, fani willis, though, will ultimately get the decision. that special grand jury cannot indict. if she wants to indict, she'll have to take the case to a regular grand jury. when is that going to happen? the d.a. told the judge 55 days ago that the decision was imminent. 55 days ago. >> this is a grand jury that's already sitting, as to who would actually see this case.
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>> grand juries sit every two months, she can start whenever she wants. >> i just want to be clear about this. they're not naming the former president. you heard the jurors who came out who said this will be massive. that leads people to believe it's the former president, but not for sure. >> they're suggesting but not named. i want to turn to manhattan, i have reporting on that. this possible indictment, and then the former president is saying, oh, it's going to happen on tuesday, and the reason he's saying that is he's saying it was leaks in the office. walk us through, if this does happen, we don't know if it's going to happen. if it does happen, their thinking is going to be possibly wednesday if it does happen. walk us through potential criminal charges and what happens in manhattan. >> this brings us back to 2016, when donald trump paid $130,000 in hush money to stormy daniels. those payments went through michael cohen. making a hush money payment is not a climrime on its own.
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what is criminal, first of all, falsification of business records. if they falsely logged these payments as attorneys fee, that's a misdemeanor. if they can show the falsification happened in order to promote some other crime, and here that would be a campaign finance violation, then we're looking at a felony. a class e felony, the lowest level. there's a through e. there is no f. that would be a maximum of four years in prison. in class e, nonviolent, it's quite common for people to not get sent to prison at all. there will be testimony in the grand jury from robert costello. this is unusual to have someone go into a grand jury to present evidence on behalf of a defendant. he will try to undermine michael cohen. >> most likely he would enter through an underground. you won't see him going in.
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>> there are all manner of tunnels and back entrances. >> he will have his mug shot and be finger printed. >> anyone arrested gets finger printed and a mug shot. >> if this does happen. >> at the same time, next month, there's a civil lawsuit. this is not a criminal case. but downtown, e. jean carol alleged donald trump raped her in a manhattan department store. trump denied it, called her a liar. she has sued him for defamation. lewis kaplan, a tough judge, a smart judge, that will be interesting. happens next month. >> we will be covering it. thank you, elie honig, we appreciate it. meantime, an emergency takeover of a huge bank this weekend. how it happened, what it means, how it will impact markets around the world. that is all ahead. rapid wrinkle repair® smooths the look off
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has agreed to buy credit suisse in an emergency deal that has rattled markets. opening slightly lower amid fears. shares tumbled as much as 62%. ubs shares down 8%. ubs is switzerland's largest bank. it agreed to buy credit suisse to ease the financial panic triggered by the collapse of silicon valley bank and signature bank. this is the first rescue of a global bank since the financial crisis of 2008. credit suisse had been losing the trust of investors and customers for years. authorities were very worried about the fallout, if it failed, and this also comes as "the new york times" has fascinating new reporting on silicon valley bank. an awareness that proved insufficient to stop the bank's demise, the fed repeatedly warned the bank that it had problems. joining us now is a reporter behind that reporting, federal
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reserve and economy reporter for the "new york times" gina smilek, cnn business editor at large, richard quest. richard, let me begin with you. you know european banks better than almost anyone. can you believe that this happened to credit suisse, this fire sale, and then just completely overriding any say of shareholders, the swiss government stepping in saying this must happen? it's stunning. >> reporter: it is stunning, but credit suisse was in awful shape to begin with. it was limping along. the saying from warren buffet, when the tide goes up, you see who's swimming naked. there's nowhere else for credit suisse to go. when you look at this particular deal. it's a shotgun marriage to be sure. there's very odd intricacies, particularly relating to bondholders who have been wiped out, and the feeling is that
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this itself could cause more turbulence when new york opens in just a few hours from now. but for the moment, they had no choice. credit suisse was going down, and there's a systemically important bank they couldn't allow it to take anybody else with it. >> richard, how do you think, though, this is different than the global financial crisis in 2008. credit suisse had been plagued by problems, a lot of mismanagement for years. >> reporter: firstly, the bigger banks, the main banks are much better capitalized. they've got tier 3 credit and reserves and assets way beyond what's necessary. and the second reason the regulators, themselves. they wouldn't have another layman moment. they are well aware now of the contagion risk and, well, they have moved in fast. signature, svb, credit suisse,
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the radar is like this at the moment because, poppy, what this has shown on the downside is that there are banks potentially in trouble. and so the regulators are now on notice. we will move fast to deal with any crisis, even before it gets going. >> you're so right about that famous warren buffet quote, when the tide goes out. you basically see who's naked, who's most at risk. gina let me bring you in here. what's fascinating is that although the problems at credit suisse are so different than what happened at silicon valley bank and signature, the collapse of those banks is really what accelerated this or made this sort of a vortex that credit suisse collapsed into. i was fascinated by your reporting over the weekend about how many times the fed, san francisco federal reserve, which has purview over svb warning warned them. six citations over the last year that they had quote matters
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requiring attention. there was tno interest rate hedge, why did nothing happen? g >> it's an interesting question. the fed had started giving this bank warnings years earlier, a range of warnings over the year before the crash. and a lot of those were about the problems we saw bring down silicon valley bank. they were telling the bank's executives that risk management controls were inadequate, they were exposed to big interest rate moves, a lot of problems we saw crash the bank could someday crash the bank and the question is why didn't executives do anything about it. was it that the fed wasn't enforcing this aggressively enough. was it that they completely dropped the ball and refused? i don't think we know the answers to those questions. >> is there any responsibility from the san francisco fed, from
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the federal reserve, net large to warn people? or is it just private communication between those entities and the banks saying you've got real issues here, you need to address them. from your reporting, my take away was and this is a quote, the bank did not fix its vulnerabilities. did anyone know, any customers, any deposit fors know that? >> this is going to be a huge area for inquiry going forward. these issues are kept private, supervisory matters are kept under lock and key. there are a lot of questions about why weren't these issues escalated? was it a failure at the san francisco fed, the federal reserve's board in washington, and, you know, is there any kind of recourse n a win a world whe this is something that could fly under the radar. i think we're going to see a lot of pressure coming from congress. we're already seeing some of
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that, to get answers and a solution going forward. >> if the bank doesn't act on repeated warnings, is there a right to know for depositors? what do you think? final thought? >> i think it's very difficult. you have a right to know, but at the same time, if you start promulgating notices that this or that bank is deficient in regulatory screams, all banks at some point in time have a problem in some nature. how is the ordinary depositor to know what's serious and what's not, and the one thing we have learned from svb and signature is that today's bank run does not involve going and standing outside and knocking on the door. today's bank run involves taking your phone out and taking your money somewhere else. now, that means it's faster, more brutal, and more destructive. >> as patrick mchenry said last week, the first twitter fueled bank run play out. richard quest in tokyo. thank you, gina, great reporting
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this morning, flight attendants are calling for a ban on lap babies. they say they are afraid for children's safety. kids under 2 can fly free on
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their parents' laps. let's head to pete muntean. good morning. what is the response been to this proposal? >> you know, flight attendants have been calling for this for 30 years. right now, the faa only strongly discourages parents putting babies on their lap. they say every child deserves to be strapped in and that is something echoed by flight attendants. they want this to change immediately. especially considering the turbulence incidents we have seen recently, on the hawaiian airlines flight that went through turbulence in december. 36 people were injured. among the injured, a 14-month-old baby. think about this. if you experience 10gs in an air craft exit at ten times the force of gravity a 20 pound 12 month-old infant might weigh something like 200 pounds. this came up in the faa summit, where ntsb chairman said something like two dozen
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recommendations out there right now to make these turbulence incidents less severe, strapping in babies, making sure that all of them deserve a seat. listen. >> all 25 turbulence recommendations remain open. addressing these and so many other issues is how we make our skies safer today. >> the association of flight attendants says it is past time to mandate this protection for our youngest passengers. we should do better to protect our children. one injury or death of a child is too many. think about this. you're required to put your laptop away during takeoff and landing and at certain times in a flight, a baby should not be on your lap, flight attendants, and safety advocates. >> how would it work? some babies are traveling so small they can't hold their head up yet. >> the recommendation by the faa, rather, is that if you can
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you should put a baby in a car seat. i have been flying in airplanes since i was two weeks old. both of my late parents were pilots. they strapped me in. i was in the backseat of a piper airplane, you can do it. it depends sometimes on the airline's policy as well. they just want this to be an faa requi requi requirement. and as this is going right now, faa reauthorization. that's how the faa gets its money from congress. this could be slipped in as part of the requirement, part of the reauthorization process to give the faa money. this could happen now. we'll see if congress takes action. >> and there's the payment issue. we were just talking about that. a lot of parents don't want to pay for a seat for their infant. we'll see, thanks, pete. >> they possibly have the thing where you strap the baby to you. >> that's a good idea. >> yeah. >> but also i've seen people with the car seats and you turn
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them around backwards and you buckle in the car seats. >> that means you have to buy another seat, and it's no longer free for the baby. you have to pay for the other seat. >> yeah. we also know adam sandler from his work on "saturday night live," his comedy classics like "the water boy", and "happy gilmore." >> there is no way that you could have been as bad at hockey as you are at golf. >> let's go. you like that old man? you want a piece of me? >> i don't want a piece of you. i want the whole thing. >> of course everyone watched that. there are also his block busters, "grownups," "big daddy yts, last night, adam sandler, better known as the sandman received recognition for his prolific career that has stretched over three decades. he was awarded the kennedy center's mark twain prize for american humor. i was lucky enough to be there for the laughs and the tributes
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to sandler. you're going to be able to watch the whole thing on sunday on cnn at 8:00 p.m. during the ceremony, many of his longest friends paid tribute to his trademark sense of humor. >> hello, my name is adam sandler, and i am the 2023 mark twain humor prize award recipient for greatness in american funny and bringing the thu thunderous belly laugh to the people of planet earth, can i get a hell yeah. my first thought of course when they told me i was getting this prestigious mark twain honor was of course, wow, is twain going to be there? no, said the kennedy center people to which i replied, makes sense. >> i love it when you scream shit at me off camera, like funny things to say, and i just try to say them like you, and
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then when i hear you latcugh at the funny thing you told me to say, i'm in heaven. >> i knew that they were sens cinematic soul mates like hepburn, and tracy. >> you're making a terrible, terrible mistake. good bgod in heaven, kennedy center. what have you done? no award has screwed up this badly since the mcarthur genius grant was given to vin diesel. people have not been this shocked since i won a latin grammy. >> how was it? >> so good. one of the biggest jokes of all of the people out of sandler employees, because he puts his friends in his movies. rob snyder, steve buscemi, it was fun watching them. >> you must be exhausted. >> you know what was lovely, you
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i don't think people should protest this, no. and i think president trump, if you talk to him, he doesn't believe that either. we want calmness. >> okay. so that was house speaker kevin mccarthy objecting to donald trump's calls for protests around his potential indictment in new york. on saturday, trump urged supporters to protest and take our nation back. that's a quote. after claiming that the manhattan d.a.'s office will be arresting him tomorrow, tuesday. so the d.a. has not announced any decision, but as we have reported, their investigation into the stormy daniels hush money payments is nearing an end. so joining us now, adam kinzinger, cnn's senior political commentator, and the former republican congressman from illinois. good morning, sir. thank you very much. i appreciate you joining us. the last time the president called for protests, we know what happened, that was on january 6th.
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you heard what everyone has been saying about this. can i play something before i get your response. this is trump's lawyer, alena haba, responding to the protests of >> let's sfee theirselves him. but if they choose to do so, for a misdemeanor which he didn't even do, it's going to cause mayhem, paula. it's a very scary time in our country. if this is what we're doing in our country, you better secure the premises, because it's dangerous. people are going to get upset. >> she was speaking to our very own paula reid here on cnn this weekend. what do you make of this? you have kevin mccarthy saying one thing, alina habba saying another. >> we'll see how this goes. i don't think there are many people who believe that the president is actually innocent of this. the couple weeks leading up to january 6th, i knew there would be violence because of -- like, the equivalent of what i'm
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seeing on social media today. i mean, people out there saying things like, we're going to create a moat around mar-a-lago. they're not going to be able to get him. whether this happens or not, and i pray to god it doesn't turn violence or a standoff like this, it is very dangerous rhetoric. the speaker is right to try to call for calm in this moment. but there are a lot of his colleagues that aren't quite doing the exact same thing, or they may say, don't protest, because it's all going to be feds out there, but boy, your country is being stolen. if you convince a significant number of this country that everything has been stolen and now the deep state is coming after their hero, they're going to do something. and it's a pretty frightening endeavor, a pretty frightening thought that they've been so misled. >> and adam, what about the idea that congress or that speaker mccarthy is saying there are going to be investigations into this. he's said, they're directing relevant committees to investigate if federal funds are being used to subvert our democracy by interfering in
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elections with politically motivated prosecutions. what can he actually investigate here? do you think he's actually going to conduct investigations into this? >> he can investigate anything. this is a state issue, so i don't -- obviously, there is a federal investigation. this has a very chilling effect. this is a concern to me, because now you have congress stepping in and saying, in essence, chilling who you can look at, who you can investigate. boy, yeah, we may not have authority over you, but we're going to put everything out there in the public so that now, any low-level prosecutor that goes after a republican or a friend of a republican now has to worry about security or having themselves named on a different news network or on the internet. i mean, you know, the speaker has put together the quote/unquote weaponization of government committee. if it was true to its name, it would be investigating his own comments at this moment, of course, but that's not going to be the case. >> i do wonder what you think
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about warnings, essentially, from one republican and one democrat over this. peter meyer, former congressman, said this, quote, this indictment is a $1 billion dgif in kind from democrats to trump's '24 campaign, assuming there is an indictment. but then i thought this comment to mark kelly to jake yesterday morning was really interesting. let's listen. >> you know, i would hope that if they brought charges, that they have a strong case. because this is, as you said, it's unprecedented. and, you know, there's certainly, you know, risks involved here. but, again, nobody in our nation is or should be above the law. >> right. no one is or should be above the law. the law is the law, right? will they indict? we'll see. but just politically, i think they're both pointing to real risks for democrats and how this could be a political boon to the former president. i wonder what you think. >> well, i certainly agree.
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i've said from the beginning, i think this is going to secure donald trump's stature within the base gop voter, which to me is actually really sad. because these are people that profess christ as their savior that are now going to go out and defend a man that potentially or is accused of paying off, you know, a porn star, you know, to protect information about him, and then he lied to people about it. but i think it's a huge risk. if there was a preference, probably, if there was -- you know, it would be like the federal case would come first or georgia would come first, but that's not how the law works. the law works when you culminate an investigation and get an indictment through a grand jury. we don't know what the indictment is doing to read. i would caution my republican friends to wait until you see this indictment. if, in fact, it comes. but, yeah, there's a huge political risk, no doubt. this is so unprecedented that this is all uncharted territory. >> certainly. >> what will this week look like and what will it look like going into the future? thank you very much, adam.
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appreciate it. >> you bet. we are just a little bit more than an hour away from this very high-stakes meeting between chinese leader xi jinping and russia leader vladimir putin. she is in moscow now. they will be sitting down face-to-face. what will it bring? the white house's john kirby is standing by to discuss. ♪ ♪ ♪ a feeling this dynamic is invite only. ♪ fortunately, you're invited. experience the exhilaration of the performance line at the invitation to lexus sales event.
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moments ago, chinese president xi jinping, as you can see here, landing in moscow for his face-to-face meeting with president putin. on the agenda, obviously, ukraine. xi says that he believes that china is actively promoting peace talks, while putin, who was in the russian-occupied ukrainian city of mariupol over the weekend says that he welcomes china's, quote, readiness, to make a meaningful contribution to the settlement of the crisis. the white house's john kirby joins us now. good morning, john. are you expecting any tangible agreements to come out of this summit with putin and xi? >> difficult to know, kaitlan. obviously, we're not part of these discussions, so we'll see what these two leaders actually come out and say at the end of this. i guess it's going to be a couple of days of their meeting and that agenda. so we'll see. but as you note, we've been very, very public about any concerns about some sort of a cease-fire announcement right now. we all want to see peace and see this war end. it could end today if mr. putin
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did the right thing. a cease-fire called right now would ratify mr. russia's conquest and give mr. putin more time to reequip and retrain and restart operations at a time and a place of his choosing. >> so if they call for a cease-fire, you believe ukraine should and will reject that? >> yes, we do. and we would reject it as well. we think that that's an unacceptable outcome, right now. obviously, we want fighting to stop. we want the war to be over. as i said, it could end today if mr. putin would do the right thing. but to call for a cease-fire right now basically ratifies what they've been able to grab inside of ukraine and gives them time and space to prepare for future operations. and that's just not going to be acceptable. >> john, do you think this meeting could be a venue where they announce that china may start providing weapons to ukraine or to russia, to use in ukraine? >> we don't believe it's in china's best interests to do that. we can't, we can't envision how we would think it's in their best interests to help mr. putin continue to slaughter more innocent ukrainians.

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