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hello. welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world. you are watching cnn newsroom. and i'm rosemary church. just ahead, it may not be today. but a decision on a trump
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indictment could come soon. and that has law enforcement in new york and washington beefing up security ahead of potential protests. vladimir putin continues talks with his dear friend xi jingping in moscow in the coming hours. the white house says it is watching the meeting of the russian and chinese leaders closely. how this visit could impact the war in ukraine. plus, shares in first republic bank tumble to a new low, raising the question, is the u.s. banking system secure is or is more turmoil ahead? live from cnn center, this is cnn newsroom, with rosemary church. >> good to have you with us. today is the day donald trump has predicted he will be indicted and arrested by new york prosecutors. but it's still unclear when or if that will actually happen. and a source close to the former president's legal team tells cnn
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not to expect any arrest or court appearance before next week. still, police in new york are getting ready for any potential protests. mayor eric adams says there are no credible colthreats to the c. but they are putting up a barricade just to be safe. and a police memo says all officers need to be in uniform and ready to deploy today. there's fencing in front of the u.s. capitol to keep protesters away. the grand jury in new york is investigating a $130,000 payment to adult film star stormy daniels. former attorney michael cohen said he made the payment at trump's direction to keep daniels quiet about an alleged affair. >> i've listened to michael
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cohen stand in front of the courthouse and say things that are directly contrary to what he said to us. now, he's on the revenge tour. i understand it but 's why i wey to tell these people the truth about who the real michael cohen is and what he was saying at that point in time. >> cohen claims robert costello's last minute testimony before the grand jury on monday is a smear campaign by trump's team. >> it's a typical donald j. trump play out of the playbook. figure out how you can muddy the water as best as you possibly can. denigrate the person. disparage them. they did the same thing to anyone and everyone, that is for the truth. >> donald trump's version of the stormy daniels story has gone over a number of revision stories. cnn's tom foreman reveals how we
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got here. >> reporter: he had a hit television show. she was in adult films. he was 60. she was 27 when they met at a golf tournament in 2006, when stormy daniels says donald trump shared photo of his wife, his new baby boy -- >> and you had sex with her? >> yes. >> reporter: and trump denied it ever since. >> to bring up that kind of crap, and bring up witch hunts is all you want to talk about. >> reporter: stephanie got into adult sector, taking the name stormy. instead, her allegations of an affair took over the headlines. a key claim as trump's 2016 campaign came to the wire. she was paid $130,000 to kquiet about him. he denied any knowledge of that in 2018.
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>> did you know about the $130,000 to stormy daniels. >> reporter: that same summer? >> later on i knew. >> reporter: her story has seem at times confusing. at one point, she signs statements denying any affair took place. >> if it was untruthful, why did you sign it? >> they made it sound like i had no choice. >> reporter: no one was putting a gun to your head? >> not physical violence, no. >> you thought there was going to be legal percussion, right? >> the exact sentence used was they can make your life hell in many ways. >> reporter: did the alleged payoff come from campaign funds? and was that a violation of campaign finance laws. former lawyer michael cohen who went to prison over that alleged hush money say yes. and trump knew about it. others said no way.
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>> that money wasn't campaign money. sorry. >> reporter: he leveled an insult at daniels as he insisted i did nothing wrng in the horse-face case. never had an affair with her. witch hunt. this story has been unwinding for years. and it is now full of many twists and turns. but it may finally now be time for a court to sort it all out. tom foreman, cnn, washington. joey jackson is a cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. he joins me now from new york. always good to have you with us. >> nice to be here. >> so, robert costello, a trump ally and michael cohen's former legal adviser, testified monday before a grand jury, investigating donald trump's alleged role in a hush money scheme. essentially saying that cohen is a liar and he's out for revenge. but cohen wasn't asked to get a rebuttal on that.
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what impact will costello's testimony likely have at undercutting cohen's creditability and the probe as a whole? >> it's important to understand this is a grand jury. and a grand jury consists of 23 members, a simple majority of which, that is 12, are needed to vote out an indictment. in that process, it's not about proving a case beyond a reasonable doubt if you were in trial. it's reasonable that a crime was committed and the subject of that investigation, mr. trump, would have been the commissioner of those crimes, the one that committed the crimes. i say that because you're going to have evidence oftentimes -- i never really tried a case in over 20 years, where there haven't been conflicts and one person says "a" and another says "b." there's going to be credibility assessments. the issue is not simply if
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donald trump did this but is there reasonable cause to believe he did and that's the essence of it. while it could be damning, the contrary evidence that was given in terms of michael cohen, it does not mean that the grand jury would not indict by virtue of that conflict. potentially a trial jury, if it gets that far, could sort it out. >> and given that trump has given that he will be arrested today, in a few hours and called on his supporters to get out and protest on his behalf. his lawyers are warning that he -- if he is indicted mayhem will ensue. how likely is it, do you think, that trump will be arrested? >> you know, when you are indicted, you're arrested. but ultimately, what happens is, there's an arrangement for surrender. what does that mean? it means a grand jury, having indicted you -- and it's not
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convicting you, it's an accusation that you did it, that makes the case available to then be sent to a trial jury for an assessment as to your guilt. when that happens, there is an arrest. there is also a courtesy extended, it would be extended here to a former president to surrender yourself. the yissue is, how that is done. if it's done securely or safely. people have a right to protest. people that find it is purely political and it's nonsense and they will be protesting. others will say it's about time the president was found accountable for something and they will be counterprotesting. i think that's important. my hope is that they're peaceful, and people should express their views like they should in any democracy. and trump will have to answer to these charges.
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>> trump thinks this is happening in the coming hours. but what do you think about the indicting of a former president. >> that's majorly significant. we should know that the grand jury reconvenes, that's the information, tomorrow. that would be wednesday. and so, it would seem to be, if there's an indictment, it could be voted out as soon as then. if the timt is voted out as soon as wednesday, of course, there will be an opportunity for mr. trump to surrender himself. it's possible that the grand jury may want to hear from additional witnesses, that would prolong this particular investigation and the grand jury could go along with that. as they do reconvene, they could vote at that point, or wait, call other witnesses and issue out an indictment if they do so at some time later. apparently, as of now, that is the timeline. >> how do you think this investigation compares with the other probes looking into trump.
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>> the manhattan district attorney's office, i'm an alumni there, they are adept of prosecuting financial games because of where new york is, the financial mecca of the world. mr. trump has a lot to answer for. we know about what's going on in georgia, in many people believe in that case, the clarity of finding votes for me. was there illegality? the district attorney's office there is looking at and investigating and has convened a special grand jury because of that. there's other investigations of mr. trump. everything is significant, as it relates to any investigation. so, people say this case is weak, unlike some of the other cases. i'm not prepared to say this yet. we should note that a grand jury convenes in secret. we don't know specifically what that grand jury really did, what they heard from, who they heard from, the nature of the crimes
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they are considering. until i see an indictment, that's when i will say and assess the strength, the relative weaknesses or where it stands in conjunction with the other cases that mr. trump has to answer for. >> joey jackson, always a pleasure to get your legal analysis. many thanks for joining us. >> thank you, rosemary. the republican chairman of three house committees say they are planning their own investigation, a manhattan district attorney, alvin bragg. the move shows how far trump allies are willing to go to defend the former president, even though bragg has not announced any charges. >> it's a misdemeanor. it's not, you know, really the crime of the century, either. but yeah, this thing is going to be -- it's going to have political taint to it. you know? any way you spin it. >> i think it's completely appropriate. i think a lot of people would
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expect us from an oversight standpoint to look into a politicized process. >> we don't any president trump broke the law at all. but i think the questions about this prosecutor have existed for some time. florida governor ron desantis is breaking his silence on the hush money case. the candidate criticized the probe while getting in a dig at trump. >> i don't know what goes into paying hush money for a porn star or silence over an alleged affair. i can't speak to that the but what i can speak to, if you have a prosecutor who is ignoring crimes happening every, single day, in his jurisdiction, and he choses to go back many, many years ago to try to use something porn star hush money payments, that's an example of
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pursuing a political agenda and weaponizing the office. >> trump responded to being mocked by desantis in his truth social post, saying ron will probably find out about false accusations and fake stories some time in the future as he gets older, wiser and better known, when he is unfairly and illegally attacked by a woman, everyone classmates, that are underage or possibly a man. i spoke last hour with cnn political analyst ron br brownstein, how he would hold up in the blistering attacks. >> he plans on offering republican voters trumpism without trump. he will fight all of the cultural wars that trump does but not trail that baggage. he goes after what republicans
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would call woke or liberal prosecutors, and also reminds people of the personal baggage that trump brings paying hush money to a porn star is symbol of all of the scandals trailing him. and you see donald trump sc scorched earth attack on anyone, who stands in his way, as we saw in 2016. and any republican who is operating under any illusion that trump will not do everything he can to tear down desantis, through any means necessary, and referring to allegations about his behavior, when he was a teacher, it's just the beginning of what will be just, you know, an extraordinary turn in the blast furnace, for ron desantis, beyond anything he has faced. still to come, the meeting in moscow. the leaders of russia and china tout their close ties as the west keeps a close eye on any developments. the latest on the talks just ahead. our li
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russian president vladimir putin is now gearing up for a second day of talks with chinese leader xi jingping. the two leaders exchanged a handshake and smiles as they met at the kremlin on monday. they later touted their close ties, meeting more than four hours with xi calling putin his dear friend. this is xi's first visit to moscow since russia's invasion of ukraine. and the meeting is habeing watcd by kyiv and legal allies. >> we don't believe that china has taken it off the table. we don't believe and haven't seen any indication they moved in that direction or they made a decision to provide or they're going to do that. we continue to believe it's not in china's best interest to do
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that. to help mr. putin slaughter innocent ukrainians. cnn correspondents are following all of the developments. good to see you both. let's start with you and what we can expect to see come out of the second day of meetings between the russian and chinese leaders. >> absolutely, rosemary. in a few hours' time we are expecting formal talks. they spoke for four hours yesterday, as you mentioned. the first question is what's on the agenda. what are the two leaders going to discuss? you can expect, of course, the top of the list is going to be ukraine. but there's a lot here we really don't know about xi's thinking. is he going to push putin into this war further by providing weapons. there's something the u.s. is warning about but is not going ahead at this time. or will he pull president putin
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back. beijing pulled out a 12-point peace propoeszal weeks ago. that was roundly dismissed by the u.s. and allies. but putin says it's something he wants to consider. take a listen. >> translator: we studied closely your proposals on the setted of the acute crisis in ukraine. you are aware that we are open to the negotiation process. we'll discuss all of these issues, including your initiative. >> that will, of course, be significant. does this relationship deepen, widen? does it become more involved when it comes to ukraine? does china directly intervene? those are things that will be considered and worried about in d.c. today. it's important to remember that china and russia's relationship right now is primarily economic. it is based on technology and trade. china has been russia's number
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one when it comes to that agenda. how do they widen that relationship? china purchases russian oil and gas. there could be another pipeline. the economics here will be crucial. there's that question whether china will expand this relationship, make it more deeply based on military ties, particularly when it pertains to ukraine and the peace proposal, coming from china. that's a key question from the united states. they preempted announcement as being one-sided and only pro-russia. >> all eyes are on china's leader xi jingping and how far he will go in helping russia in the war in ukraine. the big concern, as he pointed out, whether he intends at any point to offer lethal weapons to
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putin. it seems it's not part of this journey or this experience, to what we're understanding. the leaders of china and russia are presenti ing a united front. the chinese leader xi jingping greeted each other as dear friends. they had talks in the kremlin that lasted 4 1/2 hours. and xi jingping said russia and china had similar goals. take a listen. >> translator: it is true that both our countries share the same or similar goals. we have exerted efforts for the prosperity of our respective countries. we can cooperate and work together to achieve our goals. >> the u.s. has denounced the
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visit with the u.s. secretary of state, saying china was giving russia diplomatic govecover. and china might call for a cease-fire that allows russian troops to stay in ukraine. >> a cease-fire called right now would basically just ratify russia's conquest and give mr. putin more time to reequip and retrain and start operations at a time and place of his choosing. >> according to china this visit is a journey of peace. it comes after china brokered the truce between saudi arabia and iran. it comes a month after china issued the 12-point peace plan paper. there's no-limits alliance with russia and a tendency to speak with one side more than the other. xi jingping has spoken to putin four times. he has yet to make a call with the ukrainian president. we have learned that japan's
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prime minister is visiting ukraine today and will be meeting with zelensky. this is the first visit by a japanese leader since the invasion. he warned that ukraine today may be east asia tomorrow. >> very significant. many thanks for the live reports. taiwan's president will transit to the u.s. twice during a trip coming to the u.s. he is going to leave taiwan for new york at the end of the month, before going to gauatemaa and belize, and then los angeles when she goes back home. kevin mccarthy said he would meet with her in the u.s. but did not specify a date. still to come, a new report that big banks may have to prop up first republic again just days after they handed out a rescue package. a live report on the global banking crisis, next.
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u.s. markets were a little calmer on monday following the ubs/credit suisse deal, after being battered last week and following the collapse of silicon valley bank. but first republic is struggling to stay afloat, despite a $30 billion lifeline from 11 of the world largest banks and a $70 million loan from jpmorgan. its shares tumbled on fears it
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will need a second rescue, that some lenders may be planning according to "the wall street journal." claire sebastian joins us live from london. good morning, claire. how secure is the banking system and can we expect more turmoil ahead? >> i think we got a sense from the markets on monday that things were finding a little bit of a footing, perhaps some confidence was returning, notwithstanding the situation with first republic where clearly the first rescue with that consortium of banks has not restored confidence. they may be looking at a plan "b," led by jpmorgan. neither first republic nor jpmorgan would confirm that. the regional banks are under intense scrutiny because of the number of uninsured deposits, that some including first republic have. and it's the rising interest rates and that kind of risk. overall, the u.s. banking system is more secure than it was in
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2008. the regulations, the stress tests, the requirements and all of those things have made it so. the question, of course, when it comes to the current crisis is whether or not people believe that. if depositors believe that and regulators believe that. that's why they've come out and say our respective banking systems are safe. this is something that's infected the strongest banks in the system. look at march for the biggest banks. pretty much all of them losing doub double-digits. jpmorgan and wells fargo and bank of america losing one-fifth since march. this is a realization of what happens when the interest rates were low for the best part of a decade and jacked up quickly. it means banks are having to offer bigger returns to savers and depositors. and it can lead to higher
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borrowing costs. now, in the market, the shift goes to the federal reserve. will it weaken the arguments of them raising rates. that's the big question on wall street. >> our thanks to claire sebastian, joining us live on london. still to come, the family of a teen killed in 2015 wants his body exhumed for a private autopsy. why the surviving son of convicted murder alec murdaugh. and under attack on the front lines. the moment caught on camera by ukrainian drone. now, the incident is under investigation as a possible war crime. back in just a moment.
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new details into the investigation of the 2015 death of steven smith in south carolina. smith was a classmate of buster murdaugh, the surviving son of convicted murderer alec murdaugh. buster is denying claims he was involved in smith's death. calling them vicious and baseless rumors. cnn's diane gallagher has details. >> i seen somebody laying out. >> reporter: it's been 18 years since steven smith was found in the middle of this country road in south carolina. the teen's death gained national attention in june 2021, nearly six years after he was killed,
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when the state law enforcement opened an investigation on its death, based on information gathered of the double murder investigation of paul and maggie murder. alec murdaugh was sent to prison for the death of his wife and son. investigators never revealed what information they glean about his case being open. new private efforts launched to cover the circumstances, spearheaded by smith's mother, sandy, and two attorneys, the first goal, exhuming smith's body. >> we think we have good cause to show why a fresh set of eyes on this can be beneficial. it starts with a fresh new look at the body. >> reporter: initial reports that the student died in 2014 from a hit and run. but the accident investigation team reports cited, no vehicle debris, skid marks or injuries consistent with something being struck by a vehicle.
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>> i love my son. and since i couldn't protect him i'm going to fight for him. >> reporter: smith's mother said she worried her son may have been targeted because he was gay. according to police files during interviews with friends and family after smith's death, the murdaugh name kept coming up. no one connected the family to smith's death. r rumors and innuendo persisted, with a follow, bust er murdaugh at the center of the investigation. he broke his silence, saying i tried my best to ignore the vicious rumors of my involvement of stephen smith's tragic death as i grieve for the murders of my brother and mother. i deny any involvement in his death and my heart goes out to the smith family.
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smith attorneys caution the public, this is not about the murdaughs. >> this is not an alec murdaugh 2.0. this is stephen smith 2.0. it's all about stephen. >> that's at the heart of this here. a mother for eight years has wanted to find out what happened to her son and who did it to him. sandy smith has a gofundme. she has raised $75,000 that she plans to use for the independent autopsy and to exhume her son's body if a judge signs a petition allowing it. we asked about the investigation. they told us they had made progress and said it was active and ongoing. diane gallagher, cnn, charlotte, north carolina. ukrainian authorities say a russian attack last year on a couple in their car is a clear case of a war crime. it's also the subject of a new
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documentary by a ukrainian filmmaker. cnn's ivan watson has our exclusive report. >> reporter: from a battlefield in eastern ukraine, a desperate call for help, as a ukrainian woman pleads for her wounded husband's life. footage from last june, shows the moment when a ukrainian couple took a wrong turn towards an active front line. the car came under fire from nearby russian forces, badly wounding the driver. >> translator: i saw his head was injured and i immediately began to bandage his head. >> reporter: it was later compiled into a documentary by a ukrainian director. >> translator: i turned and fell on my knees and screamed with the most agonizing cry. i didn't know whose drone it was, our forces or the enemy.
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>> reporter: the pilot taped a sign on his drone and directed her to safety. she made the agonizing decision to leave her wounded husband behind. as she followed the drone, russian soldiers emerged to approach her car. they took her husband and dumped him in a ditch. this is the intersection where that terrible shooting took place in june. the ukrainian military subsequently liberated the area, allowing ukrainian police to come in and launch an investigation into an alleged russian war crime. ukrainian police investigators says he has gathered evidence to accuse a 26-year-old russian army officer of the war crime of attempted murder of a civilian. >> translator: he is a company commander of the second mo motorized rifle division. we established his identity. >> reporter: for police to work here, he had to clear the area
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of land mines. then, police conducted forensic and ballistic analysis of the crime scene. the ukrainian police say russian troops were here on this side of the wall and from here they opened fire on the car. the inspector shows me what he says are incriminating telephone intercepts of the suspect calling his wife.
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>> reporter: ukrainian police say the weapon was a 30 millimeter canon aboard this type of infantry fighting vehicle. police say they have tracked down photos of the officer and his wife from the social media accounts. on that dark day, she followed the drone to safety, stepping around deadly land mines, until a ukrainian soldier met her. it was too dangerous for troops to retrieve her husband. is this where they brought the victim? the russian soldiers? that's not the end of the story. miraculously he somehow survived after spending the night badly wounded in the ditch. >> i looked around and realized i was lying in some kind of a ditch. >> reporter: the next day, he limped to safety. >> it took 30 or 40 minutes. i stopped along the road because i was in a lot of pain. >> reporter: he is still in treatment for multiple wounds to
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the head, chest and spine. the alleged attempted murder of a ukrainian civilian at these cr crossroads, one of hundreds of war crime cases being investigated by police in the kharkiv region. but perhaps the only incident that's been so incredibly well-documented. ivan watson, cnn, ukraine. still to come, the u.n. says humanity is standing on thin ice. and it's melting fast. more on their dire warning about the indictment crisis and what must be done to avoid disaster. and load your dishes. e 24 hours laterer when your dishwasher is full, let finish quantum clean your dishes. if the stains aren't't gone, your lasagna is on finish.
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the los angeles unified school district has canceled school today ahead of a three-day strike, set to begin in the coming hours. local 99 said monday it would be proceeding with the strike, after contract negotiations failed to reach a resolution. the strike is expected to impact hundreds of schools and 540,000 students. people in california are under an increased flood threat. all due to an atmospheric river event, said to douse the southern part of the state. parts of the state have been dealing with rising water levels since last week. high winds and snow are expected as the atmospheric river moves across the west coast. the united nations is making a last-ditch effort to convince
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the world to correct course or face the catastrophic effects of climate change. it issued a new report of information we already know but are not acting on fast enough. collusion and rising temperatures have reached record levels and yet countries who are still the most developed continue to burn fossil fuels. underdeveloped nations are paying the biggest price for a problem they have a very small hand on. bill weir has details. >> this report is by far the most stark of the five that came before it in the last 40 years. scientists around the world agreeing that humanity is unequivocally heating up the planet in unsustainable aways, with energy addictions to fossil fuels, land use problems, deforestation, agriculture practices and human consumption. and it calls for world
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governments to rapidly speed up any endeavor to put things right for the generation and those to come beyond. at the current inflation rate, we could hit the 1.5 degrees celsius cliff that the world has been trying to avoid by the 2030s. but it lays a subscription for solutions. it diffuses a climate bomb. that's to daedecarbonize. to triple in some cases increase the transition by six times in wealthy nations like the u.s. at the same time helping developing countries avoid deforestation by supporting indigenous communities. justly, helping coal communities transition economically after the shutdowns that must be needed, as well. if you look at the real politics of what they're calling for, a
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50% reduction by 2030 in oil and gas use around the world, and compare that to the fact there's been no cut in fossil fuel emissions all throughout history, it's a huge ask. president xi meeting with putin in russia, approved 80 new coal mine projects in china. president biden in the united states, disappointed his climate voters by approving the willow oil project in alaska up there, as well. and the market signals are that saudi aramco are some of the most richest in the world. the license to burn the fossil fuels are very much in place. the companies and petol states are not going into the future. liu it seems like these signs will be ignored a little while longer. bill weir, cnn, new york. thank you for spending part
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