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good morning, everyone. i'm john berman. >> and i'm erica hill. happening right now, police in new york and washington, d.c. on high alert this morning ahead of possible protests after former president trump called on his supporters to, quote, take back our nation. the former president had claimed that he would be arrested on
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criminal charges today. a source close to his legal team, however, telling cnn the da told them not to expect an indictment until at least tomorrow. so what do we know this morning about what's happening behind the scenes in this unprecedented situation in we will bring you up to speed. plus chinese president xi jinping is meeting at this moment with russian president vp vladimir putin, this is happening in the kremlin. that summit could have major implications for russia's war in ukraine. we will have the latest details from that conversation. and we are watching the stock markets very closely this morning. a lot of green arrows, which is a good thing given the way it's been the last few days as federal reserve chair jerome powell is set to make a decision on another possible interest rate hike, that decision comes tomorrow and will have an impact on your money. we begin this hour with the latest on the former president's possible indictment. cnn's senior legal affairs correspondent paula reid is here. paula, what is the latest on the timing? >> we don't know if the grand
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jury is going to hear from any other witnesses. a source close to the former president's legal team tells me they don't expect anything to happen today. whether there are additional witnesses or not, it's unclear when they would even vote on a possible indictment. one thing we have heard both from people close to the former president's legal team and with law enforcement is that even if there is an indictment this week that initial appearance won't happen until next week. now, the way this works is if someone is indicted, that indictment is placed under seal and defense attorneys are notified that there is an indictment, but not the charges. then they work to negotiate an agreed upon surrender date, a way to turn themselves in and be processed. that takes a little bit of time and the expectation is that is how this will work if the former president is indicted. i am told by several of his lawyers that he absolutely would surrender, there's not going to be any kind of standoff, but he also really wants to appear in-person despite security concerns. >> so the indictment, if it were
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to happen and we don't know if it will, will be sealed until the court appearance. we could know there is an indictment but not know what's in it and what's in it is important. >> exactly. it depends how this information, if it leaks out, right, between then, obviously prosecutors would know, defense attorneys will not know the charges, as i understand it they intend to treat him as any other defendant. >> the only way it would leak would be if somebody in the prosecutor's office were to leak it prior to it being unsealed. >> that's my understanding, the specific charges. now, once this information if the former president is indicted makes its way to mar-a-lago the odds of it showing up, leaking out on a truth social page is very high because that is how he has liked to handle other investigative actions. he believes that all of this is helping him politically. we saw over the weekend he was speculating about an arrest date even though his team had no information to support that. he was not only calling for protests he was also fundraising. >> that was the email, by the way, donate here.
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>> please send money here. at this point we don't know if the former president will be charged with anything and it is unclear how much work the grand jury still has left, but based on all the things we're seeing if this was any other defendant we would say, wow, it appears likely that you could very well be charged. >> paula reid, great to see you here. while we're waiting we get you here in new york. >> that's a win for us. >> there is a side benefit. thanks, paula. turning to another trump investigation in georgia, fulton county officials are probing trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. now the former president's lawyers are asking to throw out the grand jury report and all the witness testimony that was gathered over those months. >> this comes as we learn that the da handling the investigation is considering racketeering and conspiracy charges. sara murray has been covering the story from the very beginning. sara, what's the reasoning from the trump legal team about why they say just toss everything? >> they have a laundry list of
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reasons, yeah, they are talking about essentially throwing away months and months of work, interviews with 75 witnesses, all of the documents, all of the recordings, all of that that the special grand jury helped collect. they are saying there were a number of issues, one of them are issues with the judge, they're saying he made a number of bad calls in how every overseeing the special grand jury, they're saying he shouldn't have done interviews with media after the grand jury concluded their work, including one with cnn, they're taking issue with the fulton county district attorney fani willis, saying that she shouldn't have been doing media interviews, they're saying she's politically biased and should be disqualified from this case or potential prosecutions, and they have also pointed to media interviews we've seen from the special grand jurors. the foreperson went on a media blitz that included cnn where she alluded to the that get that there were multiple indictments that this panel recommended, as well as potentially an indictment for donald trump, she
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wouldn't straight out say it but said we wouldn't be surprised when we look at the list. they are saying essentially this has tainted the jury pool, just throw it all away. they've asked for a judge, any other judge but the one who oversaw the grand jury to hear this. we will see if a judge decides whether any of these arguments have merit. >> we will be watching that. share ration appreciate it. thank you. joining us now to discuss, caroline polisi. good to see you as always this morning. picking up where we lift off with sara, what are the chances that this happens, that it's all thrown out? >> oh, that i'm going to go with quite low. i mean, i thought you were going to ask what the chances are that we would see an indictment out of atlanta from fani willis' office because up until i'd say the past few weeks her office was sort of the favored one to issue an indictment. remember she said back in january that her decisions about charging were imminent. it's a little bit more of a sexy
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charge, too, you know, talking about president trump's, you know, efforts to overturn the election in georgia. alvin bragg is getting a lot of slack for if this is going to be the first indictment we see out of the manhattan district attorney's office it's a bit of a flop, you know, it's not -- it's a misdemeanor charge potentially a felony, so there's questions about which is going to go first, but sounds like especially according to paula's reporting that we could see an indictment out of manhattan sooner rather than later. >> you talked about the nature of what the charges could be here in manhattan, possibly a misdemeanor or a felony, and that has to do with what the charge might be. this is all speculation but it could surround falsifying business records. can you explain more about what exactly that charge means and why it would go potentially from a misdemeanor to a felony? >> exactly, john, i think it's really important to note here all of the reporting references
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this hush money payment. hush money payments in and of themselves are not illegal, we have heard about the reporting from "the national enquirer" does this all the time, catch and kill, they did it with the playboy model karen mcdougal. that in and of itself is not illegal. here the issue is how they documented it on the trump org's business papers, business records. then you have the additional hurdle that they documented it as a legal fee for michael cohen when, in fact, obviously it was michael cohen that was paying stormy daniels this $130,000 hush money payment. he did it from his own funds. president trump then reimbursed him. that's not really a question, the question of whether or not this payment took place, again, it's documentation, and, you know, the most recent rebuttal witness called in bob costello, his purpose from team trump's point of view was to show trump knew nothing about this and if he didn't know about how the money was documented, well, then you can't pin it on him.
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now, your second question about how it gets bumped up from a misdemeanor to a class e felony, which is still a pretty low level felony in new york, if prosecutors can show that this documentation was done in furtherance of another crime -- and here is where it gets a little tricky -- that other crime would be a federal election law violation, they would have to show that the hush money payment was made in order to aid the campaign. in other words, it wasn't just for personal reasons that he would be embarrassed that his wife would know, it was, you know, just days before the election, right after the "access hollywood" tape came out, stormy daniels had been shopping the story for a while, there is a lot of reasons to show that it was an election contribution over the legal limit. there's a lot of issues with it. >> so as we look at all of that and as we keep pointing out and we are going to keep doing because it is important, there is no indictment, there have been no charges, we don't even know for sure that a charge would be filed and if so what they would be, but when you look
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at this, if we take this 30,000 foot view recognizing all of that, you do have house republicans now saying they want to talk to the district attorney, they want to see the materials that have been gathered as part of an investigation. this would be lawmakers essentially trying to intervene in an ongoing investigation. as an attorney does that concern you? >> absolutely. i don't think there's any argument to be made that they are entitled to those types of highly, you know, secret and confidential information. mark pomeranz as you know did publish a book about this investigation in the district attorney's office, which people are saying really did violate his ethical obligations to keep an ongoing investigation private, but, again, erica, we are in such uncharted territory here that i think everybody is scrambling to just figure out what's happening, however, i don't think there's any merit in getting that information from da bragg's office. >> caroline polisi, thank you
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for helping us understand this, you explained things so clearly. >> thanks for having me. three top house republicans are jumping to former president trump's defense before there is an indictment, before we know if there will be any charges of course. house judiciary committee chairman jim jordan, two other committee chairs sent a letter calling for testimony from the manhattan district attorney who is investigating donald trump. >> the letter also criticizes the probe as an unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority even though they don't know the full scope of the findings or even if there will be any charges joining us the senior editor for "the atlantic" ron brownstein. i want to do a dramatic reading by a column published by ron brownstein published this morning. >> please. >> it has to do with republicans jumping at trump's drens. you write the flurry of events has made one thing unequivocally
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clear, the former president remains the center of the gop universe. it's a very simple sentence but there's a lot going on in there because you point out his incredible strength in one area, but also some clear limits here. what do you mean? >> well, look, first of all, you know, after the midterm election and the underwhelming performance by republicans in particular, the losses by trump hand-selected candidates for governor or senator in the five key states that decided 2020 and would likely decide 2024, we heard more republican leaders than ever before say the party had to move on from trump. we heard it from donors, from strategists, from some elected officials. it's pretty clear, has been clear all year, but the past few days make it clearer that that mem am mow never reached the house republicans. we are seeing, frankly, unprecedented, jim jordan used that word, but it may have been a form of projection. we have grown numb in many ways to all the manners in which the
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rule of law has been shredded or challenged in the trump era. but for the house majority to try to interfere in and intimidate an ongoing criminal investigation is just extraordinary. you know, this -- as you've been discussing -- this is only the first of what might be many -- several indictments of house -- of former president donald trump and in some ways it is the least consequential of the potential charges that he faces. if they are at this level of interference and intimidation for this, what's down the road for georgia or the federal investigation? so in that sense this is just an unequivocal message that the house gop remains very much in trump's camp, under his thumb even, and the hopes of many in the party that they were ready to move on seems to be something of an illusion. >> may be something of an illusion. you point out also in this excellent column -- i'm not going to do a dramatic
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reading -- >> please. interpretive dance is also welcome. >> that is my strong suit, but we will discuss that in the break. so you do point out that, yes, while this may be what we're seeing from house republicans and also from the loudest voices in the room, whether or not they actually occupy a majority of how republicans may feel, it's gop strategists and donors who are not in lockstep here. the issue comes back to i think in many ways being the loudest voice in the room, so can they raise that level -- does their money talk loudly enough at this point to make a difference? >> look, the money, no, but it's not just the money at this point, erica, because you do now have a block of voters in the republican party who share these concerns. i mean, you know, as soon as the -- as trump tweeted out that he was likely to be indicted, you had his supporters like marjorie taylor greene go on twitter to say this is unequivocally going to help him. i think everyone agrees that for the trump base, for our core
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supporters, this will be evidence of his frequent argument, you know, he tells them all the time they are going after me because they really want the silenced view. there is a piece of the republican party that will respond to that. that is no longer the only block in the republican party. if you look at polling there is a substantial slice of the gop electorate that is leery of nominating trump again, primarily on the grounds that they're worried that he can win in 2024 after the -- particularly after the disappointing results in 2022. i think for those voters, you know, strategists that i've talked to and people, you know, in touch with grassroots voters, for those voters this is only going to harden their hesitation. this may just further widen the divide in the republican party, galvanizing trump's core supporters but also simultaneously raising the doubts of those who are hesitant about him to begin with, especially when you consider we will be going through this three more times before any republican voters actually go to the polls in iowa and new hampshire next
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year. >> it is march 21st of 2023. so there you go. just to put that in context, how long we will be talking about it. ron brownstein, always good to see you, my friend. thank you. >> thanks for having me. tonight on cnn prime time pamela brown takes a closer look at trump's legal woes from election interference to mishandling of classified documents to hush money payments. so what happens next inside the trump investigations airs live tonight 9:00 p.m. eastern. in the meantime, the chinese and russian presidents are meeting behind closed doors. this is as russia's war on ukraine continues to heat up. the co-chair of the congressional ukraine caucus, congressman mike quigley, will be with us live. plus, a fox producer now suing fox, claiming their lawyers coerced her to give misleading testimony in their defamation battle against dominion voting. the details of this these explosive investigations. cnn has obtained video from
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nonstarter. with me now is democratic congressman mike quigley who has traveled to ukraine to see what's going on there firsthand. always a pleasure to see you. this meeting in china is very important right now -- sorry, in moscow -- between xi jinping and vladimir putin. how much do you think the chinese are willing to do to help putin right now? what are you looking for in terms of the words they use publicly? >> well, look, there is a certain symmetry here, xi signed an agreement with russia just days before the invasion in 2022 and really didn't back off on supporting him except when putin talked about using nuclear weapons. currently they're cushioning of blow the western sanctions by continuing to buy the natural gas and oil and supplying electronics and chips, which concern to me, dual use could conceivably use in weapons as
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well. so at what point in these discussions do we get to the point where china possibly talks about sending actual weapons directly to russia, obviously that's an area of concern. >> so yesterday you visited the joint manufacturing center in ohio where the m-1 abrams tank that the president has pledged to ukraine, where those tanks are being made. are you optimistic about the timeline of those tanks, the abrams, actually getting to the battlefield? >> well, i think they're going to get to the battlefield and they're much needed, that's the best tank in the world. i don't expect it to happen before probably fall, maybe the beginning of next year. it's that concern i voiced from the beginning. what did zelenskyy say when i met him in kyiv? he said help us win quickly. that's exactly what he said when he visited washington, d.c. recently. and is even what secretary
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austin said, he said ukraine doesn't have time. this spring offensive is coming. so they're firing, what, something like 11,000 shells every couple days there. that's about what we're producing in our scranton plant in a month. so this is now at a stage of the conflict where it's no longer just maintaining a unified west, it's maintaining the production capabilities to give ukraine the tools they need to win this war quickly. >> you've said in a statement weaponry is humanitarian aid, without weapons and without combined arms the ukrainian people will be suggested to an unsending onslaught what the russian military with no help of defense, that jives with what you just said right there, congressman. what do you make of u.s. polit politicians, ron desantis is one of them, who calls the russian invasion of ukraine a territorial dispute and thinks that the u.s. should only focus on issues here within our own
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borders? >> sure. it's the isolationism from generations ago, but it also shows an extraordinary lack of depth on foreign policy issues. you can stake any view you want. to call it a territorial dispute, i would ask governor desantis was the soviet and german invasion of poland and the german invasion of france in world war ii a territorial dispute because basically it's the same concept, a sovereign democratic country in europe being rolled over. and without our help, without nato's help, that would have happened and the genocide i saw evidence of standing on a mass grave in buh characters would have been far more widespread. i would ask him what would he say to the parents of ukrainian children that were taken to russia for reeducation. this isn't a territorial dispute, it's humanitarian and a war crisis and we have to play a
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critical role in that. i will say this finally, the majority of republicans disagree with him that i serve with in congress. >> here in the united states the manhattan district attorney, there could be -- and we don't know for sure -- indictments against donald trump on new york state law soon. your republican colleagues in congress have asked for the manhattan district attorney to come testify before congressional committees. how appropriate do you think that would be? s>> i have done 200 trials more than jim jordan has in actual criminal trial experience, have never seen such a thing, wildly inappropriate. i'm not sure what they're basing this on other than just the fact that the trump base wants them to do something like this. it's a little surreal for me to watch all of this. i voted to impeach president
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trump because i thought he attempted to extort an ally for political gain. i voted to impeach president trump because he incited an insurrection that almost brought our country down. and now he possibly could get indicted for something so messy. maybe that's appropriate. maybe that speaks more of the man that he's never been held accountable and it's something like this that maybe finally catches up to him. >> congressman mike quigley, thank you so much for being with us this morning. >> thank you. up next, it is nearing decision day for federal reserve chair jerome powell. he warned lawmakers earlier this month to prepare for a rate hike as much as 50 basis points, but could recent events change that? stick around. at tempur-pedic, we're dedicated to helping you sleep like that. every night. so you get the deep,p, comfortable, undisturbed rest you deserve.
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all right. you are looking at the dow this morning, wall street just opened for trading, investors waiting to hear what the federal reserve will decide on interest rates. we've been looking -- taking a live look at the big board. you can see the dow up about a percent, so that's pretty optimist sniek we love a green arrow. cnn crew chief business correspondent christine romans joining us now. chairman powell as we know will be making this decision, technically it's separate from the banking crisis but it's hard not to look at all of the things at one time. >> nothing is separate from anything. i mean, this is the hardest job, i think -- this has been a hard
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job no matter what, but this is a really tough year. just 13 days ago the fed chief was saying we may need to go higher for longer on rates because inflation has been so entrenched and then all of a sudden the banks start to wobble, now can he say forget that inflation thing, let's worry about the banks? then what kind of signal does that send? i think most people expect it's going to be a 25 basis point rate hike, they have to keep hiking rates because we have an inflation problem in this country but they have to walk and chew gum at the same time and tell the markets and tell americans that they are doing the right thing and they have this whole thing under control. your scenarios, i think, here are no rate hike, which could spook the markets, it could say there's something in banking that we don't see, but it would give the banking system -- >> it's like too much much what they went. >> right. or they could do 25 basis which i think 85% of the markets are showing an 85% chance of that or they could do 50 basis points like the european central bank. i don't know many people who think they will do that. >> wasn't the thought even
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before all of this happened, after that testimony the thinking was chairman powell said we could go as high as 50 but in a gave him the wiggle room to only do 25 that would sort of help out, each if it was just psychological. >> the crystal ball is just like gray and murky, you know, and i think they're going into this meeting today and tomorrow, by the way, with every single piece of the freshest most available data. i was talking to an economist earlier today who said taken in isolation the economy is strong, all the data since the last fed meeting has been on the strong side which is why you would need 50 basis points. >> this is how they're going into the meeting with their fingers crossed, i think that's the level of economic planning because they can't know for sure the way things have gone. christine romans, great to see you. we are learning some new details about explosive new lawsuits filed against fox news from one of its own employees. fox news producer says she was coached, manipulated and coerced by fox news attorneys to provide false testimony in a deposition
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on dominion voting systems. the company is suing fox in that $1.6 billion defamation suit? jessica schneider joins us live. this lawsuit, how it fits into the larger defamation case. >> yeah, so this lawsuit is coming at the same time that a delaware jung right now inside this courthouse is deciding whether to let this $1.6 billion defamation case against fox news to proceed. these were two lawsuits filed by a fox news producer abby grossman overnight and she said she was coerced into giving misleading testimony and at the same times in her depositions in this defamation case. she said the false statements that she gave shifted culpability away from fox news executives and also fox corporation. her lawsuit is putting it this way, saying fox's attorneys acted as agents and at the behest of fox news to misleadingly coach, manipulate
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ms. grossman to deliver shaded and or incomplete answers during her sworn deposition testimony which answers were clearly to her reputational debt meant but greatly benefited fox news. fox news is citing attorney/client privilege and saying that it can't comment on this case, but it is significant given that this fox new producer is now on administrative leave and she is filing these two lawsuits at the same time that this delaware judge is deciding whether to let this case go to trial or whether he will decide it right now. the crux of this case is that dominion voting systems has cited internal emails and texts they have gathered during this discovery period to say these fox news executives and fox hosts knew that they were promoting false claims about dominion voting systems allegedly or falsely rigging the 2020 election. now, fox news for its part says that it is fully protected by the first amendment here. what's happening inside the
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courtroom right now is that this judge is hearing arguments about whether to decide this case either in favor of dominion or fox news right now and not let it proceed to trial. it's going to be a lengthy set of arguments throughout the morning and afternoon. it's quite likely that this judge won't decide this case and that it will move forward to trial next month. just overnight dominion is asking if this case does move to trial, they want to bring to the witness stand in-person fox corporation chairman rupert murdoch and his ceo son lock land. fox is saying it would present an undue hardship and would create a media circus. there's a lot to come in this high stakes case. of course, a lot at stake, $1.6 billion in this defamation suit. guys? >> that would be explosive if they needed to testify. jessica schneider, thank you for
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virginia covering this for us. brian, this video we're told disturbing. what can be learned from it? >> reporter: john and erica, what you can see in this video is kind of a dramatic kind of a slow-moving but very dramatic encounter that he has with these deputies, i can call it an encounter, i guess, because they're pretty much on top of him the entire time. the first video, though, that we see is of him being brought into the intake ward at central state hospital, a mental health facility in petersburg, virginia, this is surveillance video of him being brought into that hospital on the morning -- excuse me, on the afternoon of monday, march 6th. you can see deputies bringing him in, they are holding him up, he is in shackles and leg irons, he is not necessarily able to support himself, at least it doesn't look like that on the video. they bring him in, then they get him seated basically on the floor by a chair. there is a chair right there, but he is not in the chair, he is on the floor with deputies restraining him at that point. several minutes pass by and then
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they get him on his -- on his stomach -- on his side first, i believe, then on his stomach on the floor where they are restraining him for several minutes. according to the prosecutor they're holding him down for a total of at least 12 minutes and at various points there are seven deputies on him and then allegedly three security guards on him. there are different numbers of people on top of him at once, but at one point in this video you do see all ten people on top of him putting pressure on him and then, you know, at some point he does -- he does passed away during this sequence. it's not quite clear the moment he passes away, but in some of the video we've seen you can still -- you can clearly see him appearing liveless in that video. already also some 911 calls that were placed starting at 4:40 p.m. on that day and these are hospital employees calling 911, saying that he was being -- had been aggressive at one point but
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also that he was not breathing. here is a recording of those 911 calls. >> we need an emergency, um, what do you call this again, an ems here in central state hospital in virginia. so the patient is a new admission, so we're still in the admission unit and then he's very aggressive so -- >> what building? >> building 39, it's a maximum security unit. so they're doing cpr right now. there's no pulse anymore. >> is the patient aggressive or is he not -- he's not breathing? >> he used to be aggressive, right, so they're trying to put him in restraints, then eventually he didn't -- he is no longer breathing. >> are they doing cpr? >> yes, they do. they're doing right now. >> reporter: so -- and later in those 911 calls, there are other 911 calls that are made by those central state hospital employees after that sequence that you just listened to where they're complaining that the emts are not there yet. they were told by the dispatcher
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that the emts were en route, they complain that they are not there, say it's unacceptable, that they need to get there. what is not quite clear is whether the 911 calls were placed either before or after irvo otieno was deceased, the prosecutor believes that the calls were placed after he was deceased but that's not quite clear, at least some of the timelines and video that they have. we were just in here for the grand jury swearing in, they brought one of the defendants up via video, and talked to him about his possible arraignment. they swore in the grand jury just a few moments ago, brought in five witnesses and then took them to the grand jury room. so the proceedings here are under way. you've got seven sheriff's deputies charged with second-degree murder and three employees of central state hospital charged with second-degree murder and you can see some of them of course in that video. at one point at least one of the sheriff's deputies has his knee on irvo otieno's neck for an extended period, very disturbing to look at.
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>> brian todd, really appreciate the update there. it's important. thank you. this morning federal court documents show that the weapon used in the deadly abduction of four americans by a mexican cartel earlier this month, that gun was actually purchased in the united states. >> the man who bought that gun allegedly knew it would be used by the gulf cartel. josh campbell is following these new details for us. so purchasing a gun to sell to a cartel in the u.s. -- i mean, walk us through what this means and specifically the broader picture of cross-border gun trafficking here, josh. >> reporter: good morning, this is a very serious issue according to mexican and u.s. law enforcement officials and i've been reporting on america's fentanyl crisis at length and that is this deadly drug being trafficked by drug cartels in mexico into the united states, but interestingly mexican officials say that their citizens are victim to a deadly export from the u.s. and that is guns. as you mentioned, we're learning from court records that one of the weapons that was allegedly used in that kidnapping of four americans came from the united
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states. now, when it comes to the number of weapons trafficked from the u.s. into mexico, hard figures, they're difficult to come by, obviously we're talking about illicit weapons, but some estimates here, the government of mexico says there are about 600,000 illegal guns trafficked into that country every year. of that, 68% come from the united states. now, those figures track closely with figures from the atf. for example, from 2014 to 2018 of the weapons recovered in mexico that they traced, they found that 70% of those came from the united states. now, we've been reporting on this lawsuit from 2021 that the mexican government filed in u.s. federal court, basically going after gun manufacturers, that lawsuit was signed on by various attorneys general from across the united states. part of those allegations they say that the defendants, gun manufacturers, design, market, distribute and sell guns that go directly to these drug cartels. they also say that gun makers aid and abet the killing and maiming of children, judges, journalists, police and ordinary citizens.
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now, of course, u.s. gun manufacturers have repeatedly said they are not responsible if someone illegally uses their product. that lawsuit that i mentioned was recently tossed out because here in this country gun manufacturers enjoy robust legal protection from litigation. it is worth noting that the mexican government signaled days ago that they intend to appeal that decision, they want to see this lawsuit go forward. we will see what happens there. but, you know, finally for those who might be saying, well, this is on the mexican government, they are not doing enough to go after the cartels, you know, they are ineffective themselves, it's worth pointing out this is not just an issue facing mexico, our neighbors in canada have expressed serious concerns as well. last year a deputy chief in the city of toronto told the parliament of canada of the crime guns they found last year 86% of those handguns were from the united states, guys. >> wow. 86%. yeah, as you point out, it is an issue on both sides of the u.s. border, north and south. josh, really great reporting, appreciate that update. thank you. >> thanks. just ahead, teachers in the
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otienootieno. no school in los angeles today. the union representing cafeteria workers, bus drivers and custodians and teacher aides is on strike as of today tmt los angeles teacher unions says that its members will honor the strike. >> so schools are shutdown for more than 5,000 districts. nick watt has more. remind us of what the gulf is between the two sides. what are they asking for? >> reporter: yeah, well, erica, they have been negotiating for nearly a year, and they have gotten somewhere, but not far enough. yesterday, we were told that there was going to be last-ditch talks, and then they fell apart before the sides even got to the table. that is the kind of atmosphere
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that we are working in here. you know, the school district is calling this strike illegal, and the school district says it is intimidating the members, so the reality is that this is what we have at 4:30 this morning on cold and wet, for los angeles, a cold and wet morning, and the picketers outside of this bus depot. the union is demanding more money, better working conditions, and they say respect. the school district says is, listen, we will give you the pay raise and as much as we can, but we can't put the school district into the red, and this is illegal, so there is an impasse. we will hear during the day an update from both sides as they try to hammer it out, and the superintendent said he would not go home last night in the hope that the other side would come to the table. now, of course, while the adults are arguing, and the adults are
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out here demanding their rights, it is of course kids who will suffer. this is a huge school district. about half a million kids won't be going to school for the next three days. guys? >> nick watt in the middle of it all in the middle of the adults out there protesting and striking while the kids stay home. thank you, nick. as a possibility of an indictment for former president trump is in focus today, we have the very latest on the manhattan district attorney's known plans. that is next. nsportation manag, truckload d capacity and dedicated trucks and drivers. ♪hit it!♪ ♪it takes two to make a thing go right♪ ♪ ♪it takes two to make it outta sight♪ ♪one, two, get loose now! takes two to make a-♪ ay two nights and get 8,000 bonus points. book now at bestwestern.com
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