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jennifer rogers and pollster frank let's joins us because he just wrapped up a focus group with publican voters today, frank, tell us the headlines tell us what they're thinking about former president trump and about the possible indictment of him. so i want to be clear about this. if the president is indicted, his numbers will go up among republicans. they feel that he is the victim of partisan attack. they will feel that he's being unfairly treated and they are more likely to rally around him, then to abandon him. we saw the same thing in mar a lago a few months ago, and i don't think that his opponents really grasp the idea that donald trump is the best victim in politics. that i've ever seen in the 35 years that i've been working. that's number one number two is that governor de santis is a legitimate opponent of his. and what really matters is states that really matter for all of this iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and nevada. i don't care what the

national numbers show. they only care what these four states show because that's what kicks it off and third and i hate to say this and it's wrong. but in the end perception is reality. it doesn't matter what the president did. it doesn't really matter what he said. it's what we think he did and what we think, he said. that matters and there's this segment as as david wilk. i'm sure confirm there's a segment of the republican party, perhaps a third that is prepared to believe whatever donald trump says, and agree with whatever he does so do not expect the collapse of his candidacy if he's invited, indicted, in fact , expected support to grow and frank just let me dive into that a little bit sooner. i mean, a little bit deeper, which is do they draw any distinction between an indictment for say, the hush money payment to stormy daniels or the classified documents at mara lago or the what's going on in georgia with the finding extra votes? or is it all sort of the same, too?

the virus. you spoke to it's all the same. it all equals the same . and it's one of the reasons why trump has been so buoyant. now i want to make this also clear he has collapsed among independents, and he's nowhere among democrats. so at the very moment that he is more likely than he was a few months ago to win the republican nomination, he's actually less likely than it was a few months ago to be eventually elected president. among his base. he can do no wrong among his opponents. he could do no right and among the people in the middle they're starting to wonder. have we had enough of this? they appreciate his presidency. they appreciate his leadership. but frankly, they want him to go away. okay frank, stand by. i want to bring in the panel. now let me start with you. congresswoman does everything frank just said, give you pause about hoping perhaps as many democrats are that donald trump will be indicted. well, i think an additional thing that collapses based on what frank just described is

republicans in congress ability to actually talk about what they want to do. i mean, they're they're retreat. they've been in a retreat since sunday. and there is not anything else they've been able to talk about , except reacting to whether trump's gonna get indicted. what's he going to get in and get indicted for? how do you feel about his indictment? and it means like from our perspective, we're going to talk about president biden's ability to reduce produced prescription drug across the fact that we're continuing to invest in infrastructure, creating millions of jobs. and they're talking about when and whether trump's going to jail. frank makes a good point right and his point number three about independent voters, right? that's what we need to win. right we're gonna win the base. we're gonna win an alabama the president's going to do very well. president trump would do very well in general election. but as we saw in these most recent midterms, the reason that there was no right way that we the republicans got shellacked. was because people were tired of the trump penis that trump's drama as you heard from, frank

allude to you know, he's creator, he maybe ascendant, you know, i think there'll be some polls come out shortly. it'll show trump you know, ahead of biden, right this next couple of weeks and then it'll go off a cliff. and you know, i think that is the congresswoman talks about specifically. if you're a congressman, if you're running for congress, if you're running for senate, you're running for governor in 24. trump's on the ticket. you're gonna be asked. what do you think about each one of these indictments specifically, do you support this today? but would you think about that? and you know, while we're talking about this, we're not talking about other things. republicans like the voters that frank's talking to the republican voters who were the trump voters and are the primary and are the primary base. why haven't they learned that? there they are, is like religion. i mean, so it really is. it's like, um, the folks who are on the trump base right? that the 30 some plus percent, you know my friends and western pennsylvania across the state of florida and other places. um they love donald trump. they feel it heat, no matter what he's fighting for me. he's got their back right. it doesn't matter what no one else fights for them, like donald trump

fights for close to a cult. i mean, really love the guy they feel like they feel like nobody else hears him. he gets them. that means the gop is a fossil. it's impossible for the gop to actually come up with any kind of philosophy. the last gathering they had their philosophy was donald trump. so if donald trump is under attack , no one has the space to come up with ideas or actually do anything. i noticed this covering the whole bank michigan as of the last week, you know, republicans are not supposed to like bailouts. they're supposed to decry irresponsibility from anybody whether they're poor or rich, but the gop couldn't really figure out what to do in this situation because they didn't have a signal from trump and all these rich guys or their donors, so it was almost like a mass confusion, especially among the house gop because there is no real intellectual fabrica there. there's no ideology to hold it all together. so if trump the thing that keeps the

gop together now falls apart. well, i don't know when y'all are going to win elections, but not not our governor in florida, right? it has nothing to say about this right? he's on with no out in the media today, saying, look, i'm gonna make an example. i'm governing. here's my here's my record. we do tough things in florida, so i think he's going to try to break through the cacophony mentioned what donald trump was being investigated for about five times early, and now he's gone. in the hush money payments to the way. he also blamed the crop . the collapse of the silicon valley bank on diversity, equity and inclusion practices until he got slammed for that and had to backpedal. jennifer legally speaking. do you think i know that prosecutors aren't supposed to take any of this? what's happening in the zeitgeist into consideration when they're considering prosecuting a crime, but do you think that alvin bragg, the manhattan district attorney, is here thinking about any of this, as he decides tonight, whether or not he's going to indict all drama, so i don't think he's thinking about

what are the voters think? what are the political implications? i think he's thinking about what is the reaction going to be on the street? i mean, they have security issues. i mean, the former president called for protesters to go and protest his indictment that the country they're concerned about. you know, we're working with the nypd. of course, they're concerned about public safety. they're concerned about the safety of the attorneys in the office. we're working on this case and other folks were there, so he's thinking about those issues and certainly as this goes along, and he's going to trial, and they're thinking about their jury pool and what the jurors are hearing and thinking. obviously that comes into play then as well, but not in terms of the overall political piece of it. i don't know if you had a chance to talk to any of your voter panels about vice president former vice president pence but there was an interesting piece in the atlantic by mckay coppins, who sat in on a panel of trump voters, and he was watching their reaction when mike pence says name came up, and he was pretty stunned. well, first of

all, the headline is nobody likes mike pence and again. these are big trump supporters and what he heard was just, um, truly nobody has a kind thing to say. i mean, here here are a couple of quotes from the article. um he's only going to get the vote from his family. and i'm not sure even they like him. that's one quote. he just needs to go away is another. it went on and on like that, across four different focus groups of the 34 republicans who participated. i heard only four people say that consider pence for president and two of them immediately started talking themselves out of it. after indicating interests, your thoughts, frank. no mike pence is a great debater. mike pence is a good communicator when they focus rather than what happened to him on january 6th, and they focus on what he believes is philosophy. how he communicates it. you're gonna see him rise in the polls. the problem with pence. the challenge for ben's is that he's in donald trump's shadow, and there's no way to get out of that. and either it

he's too trumpian or he's not trumping enough. obviously the president former president started to attack him. in the end, you're going to have to be your own person going to have to have your own identity, your own philosophy, your own plans for the future, and it cannot just be against donald trump or in favor of donald trump. in the end, the republican nominee is going to be that person best articulates an alternative to the current administration. and it cannot just be negative. and this is my warning to all the political people watching right now, just because donald trump got away with the most negative campaign in 2016 and 2020 that we've seen in modern times just because he got away with it. doesn't mean that other work in 2024. our sessions. people are upset about conditions in the country. they are upset over inflation. they are upset over the chaos at the border, and they're desperate for someone to give them not just answers but solutions and can prove results . and mike pence has got a decent records, a member of congress and governor, he's just

not had a chance to talk about that. david does mike pence had a chance. pence's an eminently decent man. great you know, very, very nice guy, but it's frank frank points out as long as it's about, you know, january 6th and those 34 people in that focus group, probably all chanting. hang mike pence, right , um he's gonna have a tough time breaking through. he's gonna have to get on the stage and with a big crowd and define his lane. tell everybody who he is, and i don't know that's the question, right? so who beats trump the insult comic like who has the timing? who has the one liners or who like when i think of somebody who will be able to kind of soft and trump on the debate stage? the only person i can think of is nikki haley, but only because he seems to have less of a propensity to insult women directly to their faces. unless you know they're hillary. but you know what? what what? what frank was saying it's about grievances, right, so trump brand has a grievance candidate, right? it was about everybody was about everyone else's grievances. your grievance. your recently it's been about his grievances right? and so if he can switch that back around and

project a, you know a vision of how much to fix these things. um then, then i think voter will be open to it if it's about 2020 election, relitigating that i think he'll be he'll be rejected even by the republican electorate, so we have to wait and see. yeah jump in quickly. if this is about a debate, and i know this because we did all the debates testing for a for different networks back in 2016 . if this is about debating and there is no one better on this stage, informing jews, new jersey governor chris christie, he will wipe the floor out of donald trump will do the same of governor de santis. i've never seen a better debater in my professional life. i don't know if that's going to be the requirement. i don't know if that's gonna be the deciding factor. promise you donald trump will not get on the stage if chris christie is also on the stage. go ahead. chris christie was on the stage in 2016 and it didn't go so well for him. i

mean, frank. but in terms of debating in terms of the actual confrontation, marco rubio lost his candidacy because of chris christie. there are other candidates who had more money than the former governor and had a message. but the governor is so powerful and so quick on his feet right to take all the things i could do love the super bowl of the world series. i love the nhl the n b. a there's nothing i would love more than to watch the baby between chris christie and donald trump. that's awesome. that's our song. i don't know the maybe you were watching different debates, but the debates i saw with the cast of characters on the republican debate stage where where food fights and i mean there was no substance. i mean, you've got team normal, which are the democrat the democratic candidates, and now we have a democrat that the king of normal our democratic president, joe biden, who got us back on track, who is you know, focussed on making sure that we can continue

to create jobs and, you know, get roofs over peoples heads and invest in infrastructure. and you have the king of name calling on the stage and these guys are going to have to go on with philip, who bulletproof, best best to try to fend off all that's going to be the incoming coming from him. a serious discussion very quickly makes a good point about you know, does retail matters retail gonna matter? he talks about iowa, new hampshire, nevada, south carolina. early states where normally retail matters right back in the day. you go to 99 counties in iowa, right? you shake hands sitting diners. it's not gonna matter. this time it is trump going to do it is to stand is gonna do it. our candidate's gonna do it do do the electorate expect it will see that this is going to do it with bicycle racks between him and voters tuned. alright panel. thank you very much. lots of food for thought. thank you, frank really appreciate that. okay now to this 30,000 los angeles school custodians, cafeteria workers and bus drivers are on strike, which effectively stops classes for more than half a million students. there were going to

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us. i'm back with my panel now, lynette. their average salary is $25,000 a year. poverty level people who are driving our kids in serving food and capture they make $25,000 a year. what they're asking for is 30% pay raise, plus an additional $2 an hour over the next four years, so that brings them up to what 32,000 and this is los angeles we're talking about. it's not the cheapest place in the united states of america. i don't know how people are expected to survive, and i think a lot about the economy right now and how there are people who got to spend a lot of the pandemic indoors, working from home and lucky. but then there are people like these people who are worse . central workers got no thank you. scott paid like crap the entire pandemic and had to deal with you know, kids who didn't

necessarily get sick themselves but passed around covid pretty easily and now you have this like you know, people are saying the struggle is over. the pandemic is ending, but it it up, but it doesn't feel over to them. the struggle doesn't feel over and i think everyone needs to kind of put themselves into that psychological frame of mind where it's not now that they're just feeling this squeeze. it was the whole pandemic and the country seems to be getting over it, but nothing has changed for them, and they worked so hard to keep things together even before the pandemic because one of the things that the school district is saying is that we rely on these workers because kids get their meals at school. so a lot of the kids in this district um are also at the poverty level, and they get their meals at school. so if they're not going to school for the next few days, they're not going to be having three square meals. will these bus drivers kids? these bus drivers say that they're having a hard time feeding their own

kids, so this is a huge disaster. for all of these reasons, you have to think about it. from the government's perspective. you cannot have these thousands of children out of school. you just cannot and this is going to be resolved. right it's not like school is ending now. so fast forward two days, three days a week. whatever it is, it's going to be resolved, so just do it now. i mean, you just can't have all of this going on the government. you know the city of los angeles, the state of california. they just need to get this done so that the tough part here is budgetary constraints because you listen to that gentleman speak and you feel for me. you think that shouldn't that shouldn't take place. but the flip side is a school district is not like the federal government. they can't print more money. they've got a budget they have to work within. legally constrained by the statutes and say you have to balance your budget. you can't overspend. you can't go into deficit spend. so what? i what i what from what i understand is the demands by these employees would put them over that threshold. so the school district is offering. i think 23. they want 30% so hopefully, as you say, you know, we can get we can get to yes, we get to 25 26% something that doesn't bust

the budget and that everyone go back to school. the kids can get back people get some decent money and move forward. $1000 break the bank congresswoman. come on in nearly every state you can't deficit spend. you have to balance budgets and states and i know alberto carvahlo. he was the school, the school superintendent in miami dade county, one of my two counties for years, and he's a decent man. he understands that. that that that their workers have to get paid a living wage and be able to afford to feed their families and send their kids to college. you've got custodians who are the bad part of the backbone and cafeteria workers part of the backbone of the school, and they're helping kids in that school. be able to learn enough to go to college, and they can't even send their own kids to college. that's the kind of thing they're talking about. the answer is to sit down at the bargaining table. make sure that you that the unions are putting a real offer on the table, you know, counter with a real offer, stay in the room together until it gets done. but i mean for the school district to say we're pulling back. we can't do that and forcing them out on strike. what choice do they have? you can't have a

school open without cafeteria workers and custodians. these are essential workers. these are the power professionals that make it all work like clockwork . it's they're going to see very quickly how everything falls apart without them, and they just need to come back together and get it done. i mean, i hear you that obviously everybody has a budget, but they have to be able to. you have to steal from peter to pay paul somewhere. i'm not sure their finances. i'm not sure how it works. i just know that that's what i've read it, it says. look the school would like to be able to do this. they just can't find it. also, if gavin newsom, i don't know where they get their money to have a surplus. i don't know. what i know is that they do have to operate with with a balanced budget. they only get so much from the state. they get so much from property taxes. they have to put it all in the mix and sorted out. what makes it tough, and i mean there is a path forward. they're they don't seem terribly far apart. but using a mix the excuse respectfully that you know they'll they'll go into depth into bankruptcy. if they go a little bit further. i think that's questionable panel. thank

you very much stay with me if you would, because what's on the mind of america's adolescence? a new york times article conducted a focus group of young people aged 11 to 14, and they asked them about their views on things like family. school social media what their goals are what their fears are. it's really educational. we're going to look at their answers next. good momorning, everyone so glad you could join us. joining us now are two lawmakers from different sides of the aisle. people are hyper focused on two issues, inflation and crime. violent crime is up, governor. you can't deny that. i understand that. but let's talk about real answers. even when you disagree with people. if you stand for something, they have great appreciation for that. every reporter in washington wants to know. are you going to extend the debt ceiling? that's a very good question. cnn thimorning tomorrow at six eastern.

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pollster margie omero who conducted this hours long focus group. margie thanks so much for being here. this was really instructive to read the responses of this focus group. so having spent hours with these adolescents, what was your biggest takeaway after talking to them? well first as a moderator, and i do you know, hundreds of focus groups a year are usually about political candidates and organizations. it was a relief. unlike the focus groups you were talking about before 10 have nobody talked about trump. nobody's talking about mike pence. nobody's talking about the debates in 2016. none of that is happening. they are really just talking about friendship, their families what it's like to be in school what they use their phones for the things they're excited about . and what struck me was how generally speaking these young teens really liked being a kid. we asked the question. would you rather be a kid or your age or a grown up and overwhelmingly? they said, no. i want to stay my age. it's more fun. i get to

hang out with my friends. i'm really exploring and being a grown up. that's about you know, worrying about bills and the mortgage and i don't. yeah. you got plenty of time for that. yes in fact, i want to show the results of that because i thought that that was really interesting how much they are focused on just kind of the bummer of being an adult and particularly the finances, so let's read some of their responses. andrew who was 11? okay so you asked if you could be an adult now, would you and andrew who's 11 says basically they have to pay their rent and feed their kids, but i just have to really do nothing. and then trinity, whose 12 says i'd stay my current age? because your childhood is something you'll never get back, and i feel like you're an adult for a long time way longer than your childhood. true and then nate 14 says, being an adult, you have to go to a job every day and work and then you have to spend the money on the rent and food and all that stuff. and then sophie 13 says, i'm going to be my current age because then the amount of

responsibilities i have doesn't change. i want to bring in my panel and margie stay with us because i want you to be part of the conversation. but from the mouth of babes, congresswoman, i mean they understand that things get, you know, particularly finances. i was struck by how many of them talked about rent and money and bills and that that's what adulthood means to them, and you know that that's probably what their ears are hearing their parents talk about. so they hear the worries that adults have and they say mm hmm. i wanna skip through the park and play with my friends and enjoy life and as they should, but you don't want them absorbing, you know so much angst that they don't want to actually get to adulthood. my son says this too. he's 16, he often says to me, is it hard to pay taxes? i'm like, yes. yeah i mean, i don't know. yeah hard. no, but does it feel hard? yeah. yeah it's really hard yahoo! and i don't know i don't have kids,

but i recently spent time with a 14 year old. she was teaching me some of the lingo share to show said, um, the riz. that's when somebody has charisma. so maybe some of these presidential candidates in the gop need to get some more of the risk. um if they want to face donald trump, and also i heard that zaza is what the kids are using for. marijuana is yeah, wanna okay? pizza pizza to show you how old i am not going marijuana. okay so let's look at some more because i thought this was margie. interesting to in terms of what impact they thought they could have on the world and you hear again, repetitive refrain. matthew 13 says. i feel like kids my age can't really have a big impact on the world because most adults nowadays don't listen to kids. trinity 12 says. adults are not listening to kids. they're like they're just kids. they don't know anything. and then you said margie to them . is there a message that you

want to send to adults? and they said, listen to us. winter said that at 14, so i guess we have to listen to them. yeah i mean, listen, i'm so glad that they want to stay kids, but i don't like that they don't feel listened to. you know, it makes me feel like i have a 12 year old. so i feel like when i go home instead of just, you know, what do you want for dinner? and what time do you want to go to volleyball? maybe i should ask my daughter what she thinks about what's going on in the world. so nice lesson for all of us pushing back, though, whatever, honest, it's something. that we hear in every focus group. no matter the audience, kids or adults. lots of people say. i just wish that people would listen to us. it's a pretty human thing i did groups earlier tonight, which is why i'm still up this late and then those groups, people said, i just wish they would listen to us. so it is pretty common, really instructing. probably all grew up more around our family dinner table where there was more conversation and you can get your kids opinions and hear what they had to say. and now we're all running around so much so slowing down as parents and really being able to try to carve out some time we have

sunday night family dinner in our family for years and years and years with my parents and our kids, and that was the time like sometimes the only time that we really got to talk about things that you know we wouldn't have heard through the rest of the week. or maybe at all that's really valuable and then last, what makes them feel stressed out or anxious? they all said, basically homework, they said, the amount of work how much time i have to do it. that was a 14 year old. another 14 year old said. i get stressed out about school work. another 14 year olds at school work mainly sports sometimes and then trinity said. school and sports and our environment, i guess so. newsflash teenagers adult ng sucks even worse than homework. yeah you don't like schoolwork. real world? yeah that's awesome . margie thanks so much for sharing that with us. it's a good teachable moment for all of us to listen to each other. more and to our kids. thank you. thanks so much. thank you. okay up next. what if paltrow is in court in park city, utah today? they over a skiing accident.

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alleges he's using her fame as a money grab, and she wants sanderson to pay her legal fees . joining me now is cnn senior legal analyst laura coates and kutv two news reporter lincoln graves, who was in the courtroom today. lincoln tell us what happened in the courtroom today. yeah i think this trial certainly anticipated a lot of people looking forward to see what this would be like the first time we were able to see gwyneth paltrow in court and this man terry sanderson. opening statements, of course, happened today from both sides and really, it's just a case of he said. she said at this point , he says she ran into him. she says he ran into her. and so i guess that's what we're hoping the jury will determine in this case. see who's responsible. this happened in 2016 did it come out why this has taken so long to come to court. you know, that is one of the issues that gwyneth paltrow is. attorneys brought up wondering why this took so long. why it took so

long for terry sanderson to, i guess, bring up some of the medical records that he's talking about to bring up some of the issues. he claims he's suffering because of this collision. they're saying, you know, pay attention to what he says. after some of these medical reports have come out as opposed to before, so it is kind of an open ended question as to why it's taken so long, but it has been a long time coming. paltrow appear or seem in court. it said that there was a moment where we see her sort of blocking her face. was she open ? was she sort of hiding from the paparazzi? what was the mood there? a little bit of hiding from the paparazzi. there were some pretty strict rules inside the courthouse. no taking photos of her. inside except one still photographer and she was really hiding her face from that still , photographer. i would assume that she knew that there were cameras inside the courtroom, showing a full head on shot of her otherwise, besides the how she was acting towards

photographers, she was fine. she was stoic. she was nodding her head a little bit when things were said that she agreed with and, of course, shaking her head when things she didn't agree with were spoken about in court. so she didn't say a whole lot didn't show too much emotion, but yeah, she did a fine job in there. and what happens next? yes so we're going to see how long this trial actually takes. of course, they set aside a certain amount of time. we're looking at a week to two weeks here, but you never know exactly how long a triable take. we want to see if she takes the stand. we've been told that she will. we've been told that some of her family members will but again as a trial goes forward, you never know what could happen. what sort of developments will see in the days and weeks or a couple of weeks to come? but we'll be back. they're coming up tomorrow morning at nine a.m. to see this second day of the of testimony. okay lincoln graves. thank you very much for giving us all of the atmosphere inside the courtroom, and i want to turn to laura. now laura, first of all,

great to see you, too. hello hello. great to have you here, so i don't understand how from a 2016 ski accident on a mountain . how are you going to prove who ran into whom? well memories fade normally, when you have that length of time, one of the things they open mentioned opening state. moments today on gwyneth paltrow side was the plaintiffs. memory seems to be getting better as time goes on, so drying instantly into a credibility and a memory issue, but also here you've got the not only the he said, she said, you've got the idea of whether it's celebrities weighing into this whether wealth whether this is the alleged shakedown that the attorneys are with with mental state that's going to be but also think about this. you may be thinking. how is ski law? somehow part of this whole thing you know, there is a code of etiquette in skiing. but also there is the law that says, if you are the person who is downhill further down the mountain then you are the one who could be the victim. you hire the utah the ski law about this not just a courtesy. if you are down the mountain, someone

coming behind you could be responsible. but how do you prove that all this time later, when she sang, he was the person lower down the mountain or i was was vice versa. so that's gonna be part of the issue here. he says that she was skiing out of control knocked him down hard knocked him out caused a brain injury, four broken ribs and other serious interests. that sounds like there would be a record of that. i mean, that sounds like you know what you see on a ski mountain where somebody's going down in a stretcher, and i believe that she was also on a ski lesson. she was the ski instructor on a beginner slope. and so the problem here as they say that he took some pretty, you know, jovial photos, apparently following this accident as he was toboggan down the slope, then you also have the idea of his people say that she never even bothered to stop and check on it. it was a ski and run, so to speak, that she owed a duty of care and was negligent and not being a conservative skier. prudent about who was around her

for her take. they're saying no, no. my team did stop for you. you assured them that you were okay. and everyone were on their way until maybe you realized i was gwyneth paltrow, and then something else took place, and so they're also playing with the medical injuries happened beforehand. perhaps some of the brain injuries were things that were present conditions of some kind. a lot is in this particular case. it's really, really full. it feels very odd to many people, because when we have a duty of care cases like a doctor owing to a patient or somebody who's in your custody. you always do the care to what duty of care, do you? oh if you are somebody involved in a sport that has inherent risks, right? the mountain itself, the weather conditions normally, the law protects the ski operator who owned the slope not too much about what happens between skiers on it. all right, well, we'll be watching this closely and i won't be skiing. that's what we're gonna do that. is that what we get out of that guy? takeaway snowboarding down a mountain sideways? nope i'm good. thank you. fantastic thanks so much seeing you, too.

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of six. i want to bring in larry kobilinsky. he's a professor emeritus of forensic science at john jay college of criminal justice. very nice to see you. this dentist his internet searches. um are. let me just read to you. some of them. he googled how many grams of pure arsenic will kill a human. then he looked on youtube top five undetectable poisons that show no signs of foul play. then how to make poison. and then the top 10 deadliest plants. they can kill you. he's he is does not seem to be a very bright criminal. but obviously, um, police say, a lethal one. i fully agree with you. you know, it's funny. this case is very similar to a case we read about recently in massachusetts. brian walsh, uh, married to anna walsh

. and he was, uh he was arrested and charged with dismembering his wife and dumping body parts in a in a in a dumpster, and he, too, used the internet to look up. how do you get rid of a body? that's £115. ah they've you know, they just don't understand that law enforcement is going to go to their computers are going to go to their cell phones and they're going to look for records of searches that they do. and this is very, very incriminating. of course, it's not the only piece that needs to be found put together to make the case. we have a person who is, unfortunately deceased and with symptoms while she was alive of arsenic poisoning, so clearly, there's a great need for an autopsy. now i understand that, uh james craig did not want an autopsy done, and now we understand why he didn't want that done. but i can tell you that postmortem you can detect and even quantitative. the

amount of arsenic that you find in the body. um there's very sophisticated instrumentation. we just haven't seen an autopsy report yet, but the toxicology is going to be part of that. and so that is the other piece that we need. and we know he ordered the arsenic. apparently he also ordered cyanide. uh potassium cyanide, which is a very, very potent poison, very rapidly acting poison. he had it sent to his medical office and one of his colleagues found the package and said, we don't need this here. what's it doing here told his nurse and the nurse then called the police and the police are using that in this case, so here we have a guy rather than get divorced, decides he's going to get rid of his wife and do it through the internet, figuring out how to poison her to death, and unfortunately she suffered from this and even thought she was being drugged and asked him

about it in a text message, and i have that yes, i want i want to read this because this is remarkable. so this had happened before he had drugged her before and so on this day march 6th she, as you say, texts him. i feel drugged and he was bonds. given our history, i know that must be triggering just for the record. i didn't drug you. i'm super worried, though. you really looked pale before i left like in your lips. even i mean the level of impunity that he thinks he can operate with is i guess a narcissistic personality disorder or something. it's extraordinary, but there isn't going to be no question about whether it's a first degree case . first degree murder, a secondary murder. clearly it was premeditated, planned, thoughtful, you know, we put a lot of thought into this, how he's going to do it and how he's going to get away with it. remember all his internet searches were basically how do i get away with it? how do i poison and get away with it? he

didn't want to be detected. but believe me, the forensic people nowadays the toxicology people, they will put it all together, they will find the levels of arsenic. arsenic is a big problem. it's ubiquitous with mean. it's in the water. we drink the air. we breathe. it's in the soil. it's all over the place, but low levels and those are safe. but these kind of levels that will kill no, they'll find it. well, that's comforting, larry. i really appreciate all of that. i gotta let you go. larry kobilinsky, thank you very much. and before we go tomorrow on cnn this morning, a new look at how water has become a hot commodity for wall street. you can see this report at six a.m. eastern right here on cnn. thanks so much for watching tonight. our coverage continues now.

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