lots of stories. hello everyone. welcome and welcome back. thank you. i'm glad to be back. i'm healed. thanks to antibiotics, puppies. kids gave her a little kids and we move on truck on, so we're going to talk about donald trump's legal problems mounting. we're now learning that judges convinced that he may have used his own attorney to break the law when federal agents were trying to recover classified documents from mar a lago and all this is coming, as trump is preparing for what could be an indictment in the stormy daniels hush money case here in new york. now trump's lawyer in that case, when you've seen on television recently, is also under scrutiny for emails exchanged with the adult film actress. and the federal reserve is getting ready to announce a crucial decision today will keep hiking interest rates to fight inflation in the middle of a banking crisis. here is where we begin. it is a lot of big developments in two different investigations of the former president talking about former president donald trump. first

we're learning that there's evidence of a potential crime in the special counsel's probe of classified documents at mar a lago. sources are saying that a federal judge is convinced that trump may have used his own attorney to break the law when federal agents who are trying to retrieve top secret files stored at his private club in florida that attorney may need to testify again and face questions that he previously refused to answer by claiming attorney client privilege. caitlin collins going to break down the reporting in just a moment to stand by for that, but here in new york, the grand jury in the stormy daniels hush money case set to reconvene today. we're waiting to see if they make a decision to indict the former president. we have exclusive reporting cnn reporting that trump's lawyer is coming under new scrutiny for emails he exchanged with stormy daniels years ago. straight now to the big news in the trump classified documents case. doj responding six a.m. caitlin collins, what

are you learning? important to note? this is the classified documents case given. we're talking about so many different investigations right now, including what's happening with stormy daniels here in new york . this is focused on classified documents. and while you were sleeping overnight there were a flurry of deadlines for both trump's legal team and the justice department when it came to this effort by the justice department to get one of trump's defense attorneys evan corcoran to testify. piercing that shield of attorney client privilege, basically not being able to sight it when he has asked questions by those attorneys now this is all up to a d c circuit court. but at midnight, trump's attorneys had to essentially make their case for why they believe that even corcoran should not have to go and testify without attorney client privilege. why does not mean that threshold? the justice department also had their own deadline at six am for prosecutors. both of those deadlines were made overnight. and now this is all in the hands of the d. c circuit court. this three panel of judges who are going to be making this decision , and the reason this is so critical here and it could be so

could have such implications for where this case goes next. is basically what we are seeing is that a judge has ruled that she does believe prosecutors met the threshold for the crime fraud exception. but what we've learned it's new here is they believe that it is trump who potentially committed that crime have been some gray area whether or not there was corcoran that they were going after or trump himself. now it is clear that they are referencing trump here. the judge has ruled that prosecutors met that burden. the justice department, according to that judge has the evidence to back up that decision. some of that could be the surveillance tapes from mar a lago. we know that is something that prosecutors subpoenaed. they got those surveillance tapes regarding those areas where the classified documents at mara lago were being kept. that is why that is so critical here and so what it means and what we could see next is that evan corcoran, this defense attorney may have to go testify again. he's already done so previously for about four hours. but this time he would not be able to cite attorney client privilege when being asked questions, which we know from our reporting

. he did the last time, he testified, so they are still seeking this testimony. they also want this. it could be critical to the probe. when it comes to obstruction. we don't know if this goes forward what evan corcoran would have to say . what we do know is that he was ordered to turn over some of his own notes and audio recordings of notes that he made to prosecutor to the judge here, so that could be significant as well. but what we don't know is what we're waiting for this decision by the d c circuit court, which we could learn potentially as soon as today, and that is we're talking about in this case. specifically this is a classified documents case. but remember, we haven't happening in georgia and also what is here in new york in new york, and that's where we turn. that is where we turned to new cnn exclusive reporting on the hush money case right here in manhattan, we have learned that emails between stormy daniels and one of trump's current but lawyers have been turned over to the district attorney alvin bragg and his team. the communications are from 2018. that is when daniels was looking for an attorney to represent her

. daniel's lawyer now claims that she disclosed confident for confidential information to joke tacopina who would become and is now one of trump's lawyers. to covina denies that there's any conflict of interest or that any confidential information was shared from stormy daniels with him or his office. he says neither he neither met nor spoke with daniel's directly. but listen to this, okay? he didn't interview with don on this network back in 2018. they were talking about this. and here is what technically in a set. and i can't really talk about my impressions or any conversation we had because there is an attorney client privilege that attached even to a consultation. chris and homes broke this new development overnight. she joins us from west palm beach, florida near laurel, mara lago, chris thing can you just explain for people sort of big picture? why this matters? yes right now waiting for to see what a judge decides. that's the ultimate conclusion here. does the judge decide that these communications

merit some kind of attorney client privilege and conflict of interest that would limit tacopina from being able to actually represent trump or even disqualify him from doing so? and when you ask about what is the importance here? it's about that confidential information. we know that stormy daniels was looking for an attorney did she give tacopina and his law firm? financial information in this case that would give them a leg up in this case, but to could actually impact daniels herself . let's say this goes to trial could any information that she gave them be used against her in a cross examination, so that is what the judge will have to look at and determine when he sees if these communications amount to a conflict of interest? of course. stormy daniels attorney turned these over because he believes that there is confidential information that was shared with tacopina and his firm. and as you noted, tacopina has said that there was no conflict of interest that he never met or spoke to stormy daniels. but then there is the tape where he

essentially said that some sort of attorney client privilege had been a stab list. so again. this is in the judge's hands, and that will be the ultimate determination as to whether or not there was a conflict of interest. and if tacopina can continue forward representing trump. thank you. before you go . you've got new reporting also on sort of what aides to the president. folks around him at mara lago are saying now as he plans to go to texas, for example, this weekend? yes. they expected indictment. what are they telling you? yeah trump has been behind closed doors, really running the false spectrum of reaction to this potential indictment. there are times when he has complained it is unfair. there are times he has celebrated at saying that it's going to help him politically, and there are times where he has just ignored it altogether, and his aides say that part of this, they believe is compartmentalization, but also the fact that he has resigned himself. to the fact that he is

going to likely be indicted and what they're gearing up for is preparing this new normal. how exactly are they going to run a campaign under this indictment, and they're not operating with a lot of information, as all of us are in terms of timing and what that would look like. i had 18 talking to me about that trip to texas in particular saying, okay , so if the indictment comes down on a friday saturday. we just go to texas. you know, there's a lot of unknown here. this would be an unprecedented move. having a 2024 presidential candidate and former u s president being indicted. kristen thank you. great reporting, as always. thanks very much. alright, let's so let's talk about some of this, especially the new reporting one and bring in now. legal analyst, cnn legal analyst in federal prosecutor former federal prosecutor jennifer rogers. good morning, jennifer. thank you so much. let's talk about this just department has convinced a federal judge that the former president used one of his defense attorneys in furtherance of a crime. that's yeah, that's

a big deal. i mean, the crime is directly in furtherance of is obstruction of justice, of course, which is part of what jack smith and his folks are investigating. but these communications will also likely give them information about the underlying crime of the classified documents. so this is really blockbuster stuff. it's currently with the circuit. but if it gets turned over to the prosecution team, and they get to speak further. evan corcoran, it could be a big break for the trump team chances on appeal here to the d. c circuit. so what george howell ruled is that they made a prima facie case of, you know, breaching the attorney client privilege, and it's hard to know without knowing what the communications are. it has to be relatively clear that that's what's going on. but you know, judge how is a very good judge. i don't have any reason to believe she got it wrong. and this this d c circuit is unlikely to overturn it, assuming she she got it right. so what's at stake here is whether or not he has to go testify and not be able to cite attorney client privilege for not answering questions. we still don't know, though, if that does happen, what he would

actually say. no, we don't know what he would say. but you know we were in the period where justice department is asking for things, nor is asking for things to subpoena is issued and he's huddling with his lawyers. you know? what do we do? what should we do? and if it is true is it seems like it is that instead of saying yes, i have these documents. what is our strategy? he says, you know, i don't have them go off and tell them i don't have them. that's a pretty clear indication of commissioner crime and he's going to have to tell, uh there's going to have to talk about that when he testifies, so that's why it's so critical. i mean, that could prove the obstruction case and again help on the underlying case as well. i want to get to this joe tack pena thing that we have been talking about it because it could be a game changer when it comes to representation and so forth that i'm going to play what he said back in 2018 and what he's saying. now, here it is. i mean, you know once that net is out once the microscope is on you everything is fair game and it's hard to argue. oh, you can't look at this or you can't look at that. so yes, if there's an

issue with that payment, the stormy daniels being that it was made on behalf of the candidate, okay, and it was not declared. that's fair game lawyer took out a home equity loan with his own money, paid somebody that he didn't even know on behalf of clients who, by the way, had the wherewithal the money to afford 100 and $30,000, and, by the way, didn't tell the client about the settlement agreement. it's an illegal agreement to fraud if that's in fact, the case. it doesn't make sense. it doesn't pass the straight face test. and quite frankly, if that is what happened, we have a potential campaign finance issue . does anyone actually believe anyone left right middle? whatever. that that if someone else were accused of paying hush money to avoid a public sex scandal in the manner that donald trump is alleged to have , um, avoided the public sex scandal, they would be prosecuted. the answer is on 100% no. okay so you have the stormy daniels the current

possibility of piercing attorney attorney client privilege. let's set that aside. he is now representing donald trump. back then he was making it appears correct me if i'm wrong, the complete opposite argument of what he's making today. so this is why people make jokes about lawyers, right lawyers are advocates. they're not fact witnesses, so he's representing one client. now he's going to put forward that position back in the day. he was maybe not representing stormy daniels, but was kind of talking about what her side of things would be. so you know, he's not a fact witness like it's okay to take a different position or put a different position out in the press. the real question is. did he represent her? what did he learn from her? and does that mean that he now cannot represent donald trump? and you know the judge will will sort all that out. usually in these cases, they don't actually disqualify the person. courts do like to honor a criminal defendant's choice of council. so probably they will say you can't use anything you learned you can't cross examine her. if this goes to trial, but they'll probably let him stay on the case. jennifer rogers. thank you

so much appreciate it. okay also speaking of another legal case, this time not dealing with trump directly, lawyers for fox news and dominion voting systems are going to be back in a delaware courtroom for the second day, both sides of an arguing over dominions $1.6 billion defamation suit against fox. they are seeking what is called a known as a summary judgment. that means each side wants the judge to rule in their favor. basically skip a trial altogether. the proceedings yesterday went on for about six hours, with the judge hitting fox attorneys and some tough questions about their embrace of election denial in 2020, our cnn senior media reporter, oliver darcy is tracking it all. okay if you weren't watching all this yesterday, this is quite the scene in that courtroom. i mean, you were watching all of it. right well, you're you were watching it if you were watching and seeing, you know what was coming out of this what are the biggest takeaways? i think the big takeaway is how the judges reacting to some of the arguments being put forth by both parties in this case, because we knew the arguments that fox was going to make. we knew the argument that the mini

was going to make. they've made them in legal filings over the past several weeks and several months. what we didn't really have an idea of is how they were going to hold up in court when the judges looking at them and asking questions. and what we saw yesterday was the judge was quite critical at times of fox's arguments. at one point, he even said, you know, i think the argument you're making is it feels intellectually dishonest. and so i think that is really interesting as we take a look at this case, and it's this judge is being asked to rule in favor by you know, fox is saying you should declare us the winner demeaning this saying you should declare us the winner. this might give us some window into his thinking as he's being asked by both parties. to just averted trial and declaring outright winner. we should say what some of what the judge said. this is just one quote. but there was some others that were scathing and even the questions about. well, wait a minute doesn't seem like you're operating in good faith here. but he said it could have been a bigger story that a president who lost an election was making all these unsubstantiated false allegations. so what is he doing here to the fox lawyers? it's

certainly not good for the fox lawyers, right? i mean, the fox lawyers are not necessarily or yesterday on the friendliest turf now. that's not to say that some other arguments won't hold up. i mean, it's not unheard of for a judge to question both sides so he really can kind of interrogate the legal theories in court. but it's not great news for fox as they're trying to advance these arguments. and i think the judges kind of like all of us, like wait. second it was a much bigger story that trump was lying in the aftermath of the election. not necessarily . it's strange then to embrace those lives versus calling them out. if you're a news organization that doesn't fit the narrative, we'll see what happens on day two. oliver thank you so much. thanks oliver. alright, we also have more this morning on our breaking news, a residential building and zap origel was hit by a missile. it's killed at least one poor person. we know that dozens more have been hospitalized, including children. also this morning could manhattan district to turn me. alvin bragg. hold back. not charged. former

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michael bender, right, quote behind closed doors at mara lago, the former president has told friends and associates city welcomes the idea of being paraded by the authorities before a throng of reporters and news cameras. he's even mused openly about whether he should smile for the assembled media, and he's pondered how the public would react. and is said to have described the potential spectacle as a fun experience. close quote. she also writes he wants to be defiant to show the world that if they can try to do this to him, they can do it to anyone are next guest. not so sure an indictment is going to happen very soon. he thinks of manhattan district attorney album right could hold back on charging trump. let's talk about that, and a whole lot more. you're with us cnn political commentator and former special adviser to president obama event jones good morning starting at the hornet's nest, a you're not wrong, because we don't know. but still, you know, i'm just saying that you know you have this sound across the country clack clack clack clack of democrats, knees knocking together. afraid that the

political ramifications of this is to make trump who seems to be on the decline into a martyr and resurrect his political career over not the strongest of the legal system syrup purist. so you actually believe in all this stuff? political hat? dude i'm just telling you that politics sometimes matters sometimes it matters right. that shouldn't factor an illegal decision, but i just want to be clear to viewers what you're saying. are you saying that you think alan brag might not charge because of what trump is doing. not saying that good would make me sound like i think he's like he's a corrupt look like that's what i'm saying. is that, uh, this is going to be, i think a tough decision because unless the grand jury is just overwhelming any breaks or cracks in the grand jury, you add to that just a psychological reality that a lot of democrats think which led georgia. go first. could you put get trump in trouble for the coup? do we have to start with porn star payouts? that's just a political reality, and he is at

the end of the day, trying to figure out the right thing to do and he has and he is not as best we can tell. made the decision, but we don't know yet. don't know. we don't know we're decision. we don't know everyone wants to know, but the reporting does indicate that it's coming. i mean, trump is preparing for it like it's happening and they're even thinking through. maggie's reporting is right, obviously, that they are thinking through what that would look like that walk. you know, past the reporters once someone has been indicted and how they could use that to your point. about making a martyr, how they can use that you know, and campaign footage that trump is gonna come down there like it's a soul train line is gonna be so happy to get the attention. they actually be happy. i mean, you have been indicted still. the thing about trump loves attention. he loves spectacle. whether it's bad or good. everything happens for trump is both bad and good. it's kind of that means it's tuesday. it's wednesday. whatever he does some people hate it. some people love it, but he's going to be the center of the world attention. whatever he says that day, seven

billion people will hear it and he will turn into the advantage as he always does push back on that just a little bit in another lens of how to view this, i do think, obviously. oh, that's right. i covered trump when he was president. the other part of this is that it's about stormy daniels, and that is one of the most politically or personally sensitive things for trump, especially with the first lady former first lady melania trump. when this happened in the white house, it was one of the biggest sources of tension between the two of them, so i actually think, yes, all of that could be right of the political aspect of this, but it is not, you know, some great story that he that they like having resurrected has been said that's the reason he wanted to do this is to because of melania. right, so listen. nobody wants to be indicted. but i'm gonna tell you what if you're donald trump the personal stuff you're correct, but would you rather be indicted about a porn star pay out a long time ago or for the direction of coup and trying to steal an election? look it's if you have republicans watching and they think there's some sophisticated conspiracy by progressives to take over. you can relax now

because this this is not well coordinated, well coordinated progressive conspiracy would not start with the porn star. it would start with the coup. and so i just think that the end of the day this he has made a decision yet. and we don't know it just before you go talk about rhonda santis in this new interview that he gave to piers morgan. i just want people to see a clip of it quick. your favorite nickname that trump's given you so far as it run rhonda, sanctimonious or meatball rock. why can't even he went off meatball wrong? i can't i don't know how to spell the sanctimonious. i don't really know what it means. but you know, i kind of like it's long. it's got a lot of valves. i mean, so we go with that. that's fine. you know, you can call me and you can call me whatever you want. i mean, just as long as you, you know, also call me a winner. no lack of confidence there from sanders, who also says by the way, i wouldn't be running against trump. i'd be running against biden. you think the santis needs to in your words, eat his wheaties to eat his wheaties. gotta get ready.

look, it's i think it's great. he's showing confidence. he's growing. he's showing a little bit of charisma, but you're dealing with donald trump. donald trump has not lost anything when it comes to republican party, his his approval ratings high. there's not one state where the sanders is beating trump yet, so he's going to he can talk, talk all he wants to. he can smile. he talked to an interviewer when you're face to face with donald trump is a different story, buddy. eat your wheaties early on political hack. you called yourself. i'm not saying that it's early on my buddy van. no it's ago. that compared to you, you're a purist. you believe this stuff. i'm just telling you from the political point of view, how it away quickly before we let you go. the spectacle part is, you know the reporting is that they would prefer right, the authorities right and secure for security reasons not to have a spectacle to have him going through underground and have all of this done without the cameras. but i don't know if it's up to trump because if he had his druthers, he might if you get it. if you're gonna do it, you may as well get the attention he might moonwalk. apart walk telling you, you

guys. i don't think he's gonna boy got a blue walk. it's time for you to go van. wait to see it is good for it to have a word of caution. we have to wait for the actual we haven't seen it yet. it's very good word of caution. thank you for joining us, banjo. thanks. all right. we have more this morning on breaking news. this is in ukraine. incredibly important. you see this video dramatic video that is where a missile struck a residential block and zap aries. you see all the cars just right in front of that. we're gonna talk about that and what could come as an outcome of this meeting just three day meeting between xi and putin, former defense secretary mark esper is going to join us live. that's next. when you have e auo glass damage, trust safelite. my customer really relies on his cars, advanced safety sysystem, right. okay so then, when he got a cracked windshield, he turned to say flight, where the experts at replacing glass and recalibrating your vehicles, cameras, automatic emergency braking and lane departure warning work properly to get you

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ah, yes. this attack comes one day after that high stakes summit between putin and president chinese president xi jinping in moscow has now come to an end. you see she jinping, leaving returning to china. now putin says that china's so called peace plan could be the basis for a deal in ukraine. the white house is pushing back, though saying if beijing truly wanted to broker peace, it should tell russia to leave. if president she really believes that stuff they just put out in moscow, then you ought to be telling president putin to get his troops out of ukraine because they're the ones violating u. n charter. they're the ones violating sovereignty and territorial integrity, and this war could be over right now. joining us now, for more perspective on this is the former defense secretary mark esper. mark thanks so much for joining us this morning. you're coming live from lithuania. obviously an important backdrop in this entire conversation. let's start with the end of that summit between president putin

and president xi and what it says to you about russia's level of reliance on china right now. yes caitlin. great to be with you. and as you said, i am a lithuania. i'm key noting of baltic military conference and also meeting with the nation's leaders, and this is a great country that's meeting its nato commitments and punching well above its weight. when it comes to helping out the ukrainians and look they were under soviet rule. not not a little bit more than 30 years ago. so they see this all very clearly. and people here in lithuania are watching the events on the ground, and they see this, uh, this meeting between g jinping and russian president glamour putin with great concern alarm as to what it may portend, and we didn't see any reference to military assistance at least not publicly between putin and president xi. but if china does decide to provide weapons to russia to use in ukraine what should the u. s response look like in your view? well first china is providing russia assistance in the sense that it's buying its energy off the

market. it's providing technical assistance do use items, and there have been some reports that chinese munitions have been found in ukraine, which is very interesting, but look, if china was to provide lethal assistance, i think one it would change the game with regard to russia's ability to sustain this conflict because russia is running out of men. um material, ammunitions and chinese assistance could help that said if they did, it was strategically i think, changed the game between the united states and hopefully our european partners, which is one of the issues i'm talking about here with regard to our willingness collectively to sanction china, financially economic and economically and otherwise. for making such a move, okay, and that is something that the white house has said there would be consequences. they haven't said exactly what the pentagon though mark is now saying that those abrams tanks that they are sending to ukraine they weren't really expected to even potentially reach there. this year. they're now saying they'll arrive by the fault because they're sending a refurbished older model but basically allowing them to speed up the

timeline. does this make it clear to you that the pentagon should have decided to send the abrams tanks sooner to ukraine? absolutely i mean, i thought we should have been making that decision last year late last year, when ukraine began asking and then when the decision finally came out, which was a way to unleash the germans in terms of providing the leopard's we made this decision that we would provide them, you know, you know tanks coming off the line sometime next year. that didn't make much sense. given what's happening now in ukraine, so i think providing them. either current models or, you know, the marine corps has turned in its tanks. i think we can. we should be able to get them abrams tanks within a matter of weeks. i think what is happening is this caitlin the ukraine's are trying to assemble a counter offensive that would happen sometime in april or may , which is just a few weeks away, and to do so they need that heavy armor accompanied by fighting vehicles to really punch through the russian lines and push the russians out of eastern ukraine. that will be a big game changer and important to do before the nato summit. in

vilnius in july here in europe, and i know you've also said you believe the u. s. should send the f 16 fighter jets. we'll see what happens there. mark i do want to ask you about some political news and some legal news here since you did work for former president trump as his defense secretary. he has this history as a politician of typically a traditional scandal that would bring any other politician down doesn't really hurt trump. there's this idea that maybe an indictment. here in new york could be an asset to him. how do you see it? you know, caitlyn, that i would like to answer your question, but i've been on planes for the last 24 hours and not focused on that news. i haven't really seen what has developed people here are really focused in terms of how the united states and whether the united states will continue to support ukraine. that's the biggest concern. when people look back at the united states right now, do they have any concerns? if trump is the gop nominee of what? that support from the u. s would look like given. he's been skeptical of it. so has ron de santis. oh, absolutely. i mean, there is concern that there may be this

isolationist pull, and we've heard the comments recently by governor de santis about this being a terrible territorial dispute, which it's not. in my view. i think the view of other republicans traditional republicans is that this is a contest between democracy and autocracy, and it's certainly in the united states national interest. to support the ukrainians and that needs to be that needs to continue. that's the concern. i think of folks over here in europe. former defense secretary mark esper live from lithuania. thank you so much for taking some time to join us this morning. thanks caitlin. also happening today. the federal reserve is set to announce its decision on interest rates as the country continues to grapple with sky high inflation. rising prices have pushed many consumers to abandon premium goods in exchange for cheaper alternatives and everything from groceries to clothing to personal care products. so for more on this, it's bringing out cnn reporter matt eagan. hello to you. what is this shift away from premium products? what does it actually look like? well done. you know, i think

americans have just really changed the way that they shop. you know, people are trading down. that means going to cheaper brands. cheaper products for groceries. maybe that means getting regular fruit and vegetables instead of organic for electronic. that can mean getting the tv that has the best deal instead of the one that has all the best features. and you know, we've heard about this trend anecdotally, but these new numbers from adobe shared first with cnn. and really put an exclamation point on how this is playing out. online where it's actually easiest to price shop. so adobe found that across all 11 e commerce categories, the lowest priced goods are gaining market share, and the highest priced ones are losing. so, for example, let's look at groceries in early 2019, the lowest priced tier of groceries had about a third of the market. but look at that today, now half of the market same things playing out

for personal care products like shampoo and perfume and cologne in 2019, the lowest priced goods had about a quarter of the market for personal care products. now it's about 50% of the market, so it's doubled. clearly these trends show that because of high inflation, you know americans have just become a lot more price conscious. alright matt eagan. thank you, sir. appreciate it. thanks matt. president biden, awarding artists creators philanthropist with one of the nation's highest honors. guess who we get to be joined by so excited. the iconic vera wang is here. i love the metal to look at that. look at the medal. hi, there can't wait to see you. we'll talk to you after the break. and something that i have just for you. i've conjured this up. i did it myself. what? i prepared a live look at the cherry blossoms in washington, dc caitlin's gonna tell you they bloom and then like snow hits and april and

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the nation's highest honors, she joined a select group of creators, advocates and writers to receive this award, including bruce springsteen, julia louis dreyfus and gladys knight. i mean, this was the first time since taking office as president biden held this event due to covid 19 right in the restrictions there, so joining us now ah fashion designer recipient of the national medal of arts all around hero, my friend vera wang, our friend. very good morning to you. congratulations. thank you so much. i'm flying on air. um it's kind of surreal. i have to say, but here it is. my olympic gold . it looks like an olympic gold medal. but as you know, popping out, we're talking. we were saying in the break as we were talking to you, bobby said that they're both important. but this is about a lifetime of work. not just one huge win. this is about your body of work. yes. yes a

long body of work, definitely. but i have to say that i was really moved. i mean, you never really think how you react. but when i walked into that room, um it was really quite emotional for me because also something i totally did not anticipate in a million years. so this was an out of body experience. you had no idea like the address of mine . yes your stuff is so beautiful. it's just it's like timeless and i mean what he was saying there about walking into the first lady's closet and seeing your your designs everywhere. i wonder what it's like to even hear something like that that the first lady's closet in the white house is full of your work and things that you've created. well, i like to think, guys. poppy caitlin, everyone else don. i have to say that, um it's such an honor to craft clothing, but

to see it really warn and enjoyed an experience by someone like the first lady. i don't think it really gets better for any designer tell you the truth . yeah you know, i mean, go ahead. no i just think that for something so unexpected. i was unbelievably moved. so you know , i'm just happiest can be today. we're playing celebratory showing videos. some of your dresses. i mean, truly are unreal on. yeah i mean, i'll never forget the experience of walking into your boutique like 10 years ago and getting to try on your gowns. it's a once in a lifetime experience. look um i love that you have said if anyone had said i'd be the girl who didn't get married until she was 40 and would build a business based on wedding gowns. i would have laughed. look how much you have done. since this moment in your life when you thought and you've said, well,

maybe it was too late. guys is 40. that old says that to me, god, you didn't get started to your 40. and i'm thinking well, i don't know if i could have done it at 35. i was too crazy. i mean, i'm just saying honestly , 40 doesn't seem 40 doesn't seem that old to me particularly now, and i have to say that there's something about a certain maturity that comes, you know that comes with age and experience. but only had two major careers before both of vogue magazine. yeah obviously as a as a design director for ralph lauren's company, so both of those things really helped me establish, you know, a resident not only a resume, but such incredible education experience , so i don't know it's 40 battled. no but i guess it is not. but absolutely not. let me ask you about we were just talking about, you know. people

looking for cheaper products, but there's also luxury goods are really soaring right now. aspirational i think probably coming out of covid is helping as well that people want to be aspirational. do you think that it has changed now that you know , considering what happened at the covid that people are, you know, foregoing their dream wedding. um weddings now, are you seeing that or people still leaning into the big wedding dress? expensive stuff, you know? i think, frankly, before the pandemic, there was a new trend. young couples wanted to not spend quite as much on the sartorial the clothing part of the wedding. it's more interested in travel and experience, but i think since the pandemic and everyone was locked up there has been this wedding resurgence. it's been really kind of insane, and i think the desire to celebrate with people you love and you know, just really experience the

full wedding moment has really, um galvanized and changed pretty much our business for now. i have to be honest, i did 38 personal vip weddings myself last year and wow record for me . wow yeah, well, listen, you do beautiful stuff. but the best accessory i think today is that huge metal hanging around your neck. i love it so much. i can't even tell you i could never have expected this in a million years, so well, well deserved and thank you guys for joining you in new york dinner. all four of us. thank you. lovely. is she absolutely ofour alright. oh i love you by two. okay moving on . when was the last time you played a cd for our younger audience? have you ever seen a cd airy entin dvd, throwing things back with this morning's number from the academy? lactate

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it all. i know what you're talking about the anti theft stuff what you're talking about ? what am i talking about? okay this morning's number is 40. why because compact disc sales from music started 40 years ago this month in the united states. i can't believe it was that long ago and they're truly has been a rise and then a fall of compact disc sales, so compact, this percentage of all us music sales. back in 1983. when it was started was just 1% look, it jumped to 65% in 1993 95% in 2003 dropped to 30% in 2013 3% in 2022 look at where we are now streaming is the number one way it's 78% of all of the way that music was sold digital download in 2013 40% you have to go all the way back to 2003 when it's compact this and of course, vinyl of all types was the tops back in 1983 when compact this started, but harry, we've also so seen this and this is something happening among my friends as well as a resurgence

in vinyl. everyone is getting vinyl records again and record players because people do have love it to sound is different is great and warm and look at this vinyl eps and lps 8% of sales of music this past year compact is just 3% we've seen this rise of vinyl and i have uncle neal right here vinyl, and i'll note the sound is not actually better on vinyl and compact this, but the album cover art is nostalgia . i guess you know what i want, you know, it's the center, the record player. it's just warmer and it's not so perfect. it's a mood. i couldn't find the taylor swift vinyl. you know, midnight wasn't midnight, so i'd like you to get me one this weekend. thank you very much. put the needle on the record. got it here. very good. thank you. thank you. thank you. remember my first cd for your okay? we got you. 83 newsroom starts

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