this is resourceful. i feel john garza and arlie nemo were turned in by other patrons at the harp and taken back into custody by police. charges are pending for both on their escape, and the sheriff's are conducting an internal investigation did determine how the inmates were able to break out so easily. mhm. alright back to serious news, the trump legal drama reaching fever pitch this week. in just hours, the manhattan grand jury will meet again. we're told this is the investigation into the hush money payments to adult film star stormy daniels. and on friday of this week, one of donald trump's own lawyers will have to testify to another grand jury that's looking into the handling of those classified documents start at mar a lago. so how is donald trump preparing for the possibility of these indictments here with me? we have cnn, political commentators s e. cupp and van jones. we have cnn legal analyst elie honig and cnn political commentator scott jennings. guys. great to have

you here. okay ellie, tell us the significance of the development today of donald trump's attorney, um and then corcoran, who now is being ordered by an appeals court to testify. this is a pretty big deal because the bottom line is even corcoran has to testify about every everything that donald trump told him that relates to an ongoing crime. so what happened was doj wanted to talk to evan corcoran because he was part of the chain of communication that led to this false certification that trump's team gave to doj saying we've given you all the classified records all the government records when of course, that was false. so doj questions corcoran he invokes attorney client privilege. doj goes to the judge and says crime fraud exception, meaning we believe these conversations between corcoran and trump were part of an ongoing crime, and the judge agrees. and today, a court of appeals panel. all three judges agreed. so now corcoran has to go in and doj gets to say, tell us about those critical conversations you had with donald trump. let's go on. sound great. i mean, my legal opinion

. uh, i mean, i guess in the i mean in the grand pantheon, i mean, he's got to. he's got sex paperwork in one place, and he's got classified paperwork and the other so the classified paperwork sounds. more important to me, particularly since his lawyers now got to go in and talk about it, so i think that's probably you know you're an american person trying to figure out what's going on here strikes me that that case, ellie is the vital one here on that. okay donald trump is handling this with his usual air of wanting a reveal no, not not that word, bravado and love of a reveal and so he is. it is reported by haberman and michael bender in the new york times behind closed doors at mara lago, the former president has told friends and associates that he welcomes the idea of being paraded by the authorities before throng of report. there's a news cameras. he's even mused openly about whether he should smile for the assembled media. and he has pondered how the public would react and is said to have

described the potential spectacle. as a fun experience. they're not going to parade him by by a scrub reporters, right. wake him in like a basement. that area is there are so many underground tunnels, parking garages. he will not literally not see the light of day unless he wants to. it sounds like he does want to do that. not with handcuffs on and not being marched by the cost, but he can go back up to trump tower and call a press conference if he wants. i mean, look, i understand the strategic approach have never let them see you sweat, right? always act like it's a good thing. but boy, that's a pretty glib approach to take to being potentially locked up. yeah sometimes i feel like we are in danger of buying his bs. and i've heard a lot of people say this is gonna be great for trump. it's going to be boost his approval and the facts. just don't bear that out. um trump has not been able to turn any of these scandals into real political wins. he's been able to fundraise off of them for sure in line his pockets. yeah, but look at 2018 midterms

2020 presidential election 2022 midterms all losses for republicans. trump was huge figure in all of those. trump's approval numbers within the republican party might spike for a minute after the raid, margaret mara lago or a minute after news of this, maybe arrest but over the course of the past two years from january, 6th his approval among republicans has gone down 15 points. you can't overlook that it plummeted. 30 points among republicans just after january 6th. he has not turned to this into real political capital to either get republicans elected or himself. um, you know, mhm maintaining the gop base he once had. in fact, he's bleeding voters. so i mean, i you know, he could. he can say this is going to be great for him. it is not. that was true until the past 10 days where you do see him now gaining

and there is a momentary you think it's momentary. here's the deal has been momentary. in the past. that's my only point to other republican that's close. mhm despite all of this, all the stuff that he's done all the shenanigans all the horrible stuff, the fact that he wants to basically like moonwalk for his perp walk, and he's so happy all that weird stuff there's still no republican close to him in terms of being able to beat him, so that's the scary part to me. i think the sentences close dispute trust gone up a couple of diseases even in the race yet and he's in a different universe and the rest of these people that are or may be seeking the nominations actually think there is someone who poses a credible threat. and you know who else believes that is trump because that's why you're spending all of his time on it right now, as we know donald trump prides himself on being a tv creature knowing tv being on tv. he likes that and so it is possible that he is being serious. i mean, i take your point that he this might all just be false bravado

, but he might truly be harkening back to some other perp walks and think that this could help him and so here are some famous perp walks. let's look at this. so they're okay. so here, what we're seeing is dominique strauss kahn. i believe on the upper left. harvey weinstein. not sure that that was the most. the best perp walk ever, which is on the lower left. um it looks like yes, johnny depp. that's johnny depp on the upper 1990. for what? i don't know, but that i guess he's not walking. i need that that to move that's a still shot. i don't call that a purple and then there's steve bannon. and i do think the steve bannon one is applicable because steve bannon went as you know, ellie would he's emerged from the courthouse did like a triumphs it he really owned that stone to similar. obviously, he's thinking of that. and let me say this. the nature of these charges, which is, i think questionable in terms of severity really does lend itself

to this sort of performative action because it's one thing to strut around and make a scene if he chooses to go that way, i'm dubious. daniels charges the fact that it has to do with the false falsification of paperwork relating to a an affair and alleged affair that's now about 15 years old. the paperwork goes back about seven years. it's one thing to parade around and try to make yourself a martyr off of that. i think it may have some resonance, however. what if he's charged if an event eventually comes to pass with january? 6th you're not going to have the same kind of audience in the same kind of reaction if you try to make a scene and turned it into a show, this one in new york is far easier to trivialize going to jail. he gets convicted. he ain't going to jail for this. i don't think so. you tell me and so it's sort of easier to make a light of it to make fun of it to trivialize it. and you know, even the republicans who don't want to vote for him again. think this prosecutor is off the you know, off the rails here and prosecuting him for political

reasons enough for real reasons, so he has every reason to treat this one. this way. i agree with ellie. i don't know how you would treat the other ones because they're far more serious, with far deeper personal legal ramifications in this and anyone think he's going to treat those seriously. i mean , i think he's going to trivialize the jean carroll issue. i think he's going to trivialize every single possible indictment in charge that comes up because he doesn't take this seriously. these are all just proof of the deep state going after him. he's going to use them to gin up his base. i don't think he's going to, like, have this donald trump for this indictment and a totally new donald trump for the more serious ones? i agree, but i think it hits differently, depending on what the charges are. i mean, i just like it was it was a small sample, but i was co hosting on sirius xm the other day, and we were taking callers from real people around the country and we had three calls in about 15 20 minutes from people saying i do not like donald trump at all. but i also do not like these charges coming out of new york. i don't want it

to be to go down this way. this shouldn't be the sort of leading point and that was your point. original event. it's interesting because donald trump himself said that he was going to be arrested on tuesday and that didn't come to pass. and so do we think it. alvin bragg is having second thoughts. i mean, there's now a bit of pause today in the grand jury. do we sense that there's something happening ? i don't know. i'm curious. you're thinking to me it seems like a guy standing at the at the edge of a swimming pool, like do i really want to jump because once he jumps, he's in the history books. he brings the whole country with them. so it does seem to me that that that you know, this is a district attorney. that might be a little bit cautious. no album brag. well i he was a couple years ahead of me in law school. he we were at the southern district of new york daily. he's a friend. i should say that. i love that analogy van because it's also like the phenomenon which i can empathize with. when you go up in the high dive and you go to the edge, and you're scared to death. but everyone's watching like you're like i want to back down, but i kind of can't now

jump jump. exactly exactly, um, could he be reconsidering? it's possible the fact that they sort of postponed today and now we're hearing they're in session tomorrow and considering whether to call rebuttal witnesses. i mean, rebuttal witnesses should not be a thing. not that grand jury. grand jury is the easiest thing in the world for a prosecutor, and if you're worried about whether your case is going to get through a grand jury, good luck with the trial jury that part advice to alvin bragg has looked down because there ain't no water in that pool jump in just this case. it's a it's a mess. the theory to get to a felony is a mess. i mean, look, i'm just reading the articles about this. how it's been laid out. it's a mess. it's a total mess. what won't be a mess. is what's going on in georgia, apparently when they got him on the phone three times, people to do things you're not supposed to do what won't be a mess are these other , more consequential cases? and that will be easier for the american people and republicans to digest and accept that this mess? are we sure that its rebuttal witnesses that they're calling tomorrow or is it maybe

a new witness? well, you're right. it could be a brand new witness, and i should say this like we always have to say that the qualification it could be that there's a surprising charge something we don't know about. um, it could be that the evidence is better support. it better be because if you're staking a case beyond a reasonable doubt on the word of michael cohen, my god, good luck . and look, i've i am not a pearl clutch er when it comes to calling bad guys, a star witnesses i've called murderers do that, then why? why do you doubt michael cohen's abilities to write this rested on him about credibility, and it's all about how you liar. he's well. he's does. i mean, but okay, but i'm saying that like when he was in trump let me let me speak for michael cohen for a second when he was in trust when he was in trump's camp. as we know, he said, whatever to please the boss and whatever the boss wanted, but since he was turned on by donald trump, which is i guess around 2018, hasn't he been much more reliable? but let me let me say this? i mean, isn't it true that an average

person can look at this guy and say, man, this is a guy with a serious vendetta who has a proven history of saying whatever it takes to do what he wants to do in that moment. i mean, how easy is that case to make in front of a jury? part problems with michael cohen's credibility one his his. he's a convicted perjurer and convicted people say he only ever committed crimes for donald trump. not true. he also pled guilty to financial fried. tax fraud for his own purposes and to you do not want a witness with an ax to grind ever seen a witness grinding an ax more intently than michael cohen. and also there is this notion that michael cohen says all the time as well. i turn this corner when i turned on trump and i've only told the truth since then, not quite true, because since then he tried to cooperate with my former office, the southern district of new york, and they rejected him, they wrote in his sentencing letter to the judge. he tried to cooperate. he came in and told us some things, but we didn't send them as a quote, cooperate because we do not believe he was fully forthcoming. he wouldn't answer our questions fully and honestly. so major questions.

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decades in the making. perhaps we've had the means complain for a very long time about the methodology about how. hmm uh, how reliable the rankings are? a lot of it is based on a reputation survey that they say is not exactly scientific and it incentivizes the wrong things for schools to pursue. so those complaints have been brewing for years and years and then finally , the dean of yale law school said enough is enough. i don't want to participate anymore. i don't want to at least provide you guys with information. so that you can do your rankings and the fact that it came from miele if in the number one law school since those rankings began. clearly they weren't just bitter about their placement. you're right. i mean, when they number one, uh, school says no, thank you. something is wrong. and, you know, to your point about how, uh, people have been wondering about the data and the metric that goes into deciding

these for a long time. we um uh , i back in september. yeah, interviewed. basically a whistleblower from columbia university, one of the mathematics professors who crunched the numbers and thought that something was fishy about the rankings, even of colombia, so let me just play for you what he said. rankings are just adding a further level of confusion and obvious cation. um rankings are worthless on so many levels. for one thing, it's a one size fits all approach that is not tailored to individual needs. and then at the you know, most level, there's the issue. we don't even know if the data that go into them are correct. and there's good reason to believe that a lot of it isn't so, melissa, what were they basing it on these rankings? so the rankings are based on a lot of factors. there's everything from admissions rate, uh, for law schools. it's l sat scores, bar

passage rate. uh this peer review this kind of reputation survey where dean's or for college rankings, the college presidents and provosts are expected to just rate on a scale of 1 to 5, all the other schools and their category. and the administrators say they can't possibly make informed decisions and rankings there, so it's based on so much information. but as the professor said, it's not always clear that that information actually helps students make the right decisions for school. okay i want to bring in my panel now, melissa. thank you for all of that, um, ben, you are the perfect person to talk to. you went to yale law school. it is true, and it's interesting because people for a long time put a lot of weight into these u s news certainly didn't i mean i was a kid at the university of tennessee at martin? i was talking to professor gerald dog who's still there? about what my future should be, and we pulled

that magazine out and there was a number one was yale. he said. well, let's go for that one, and i wound up going there. but here's the problem with it. the there's a perverse logic here, which is how do you know a school is great. it's how many kids do you reject your if you have an acceptance rate that's very low. if you reject a bunch of kids your great school now if you accept them and make them better if you reject them, that's sick. and then when they leave, not how much of a difference do they make? how much money do they make? so you have this sort of kind of perverse thing that's rewarding schools for turning kids away and not bringing them in, and it's rewarding people for going out to make money and not to make the world better. necessarily. and i think it's also it's. it's not a date. it's not a date. such a great point. the acceptance rate is something that i just went through this with my daughters and ellie just went through this with his son, so we are so steeped in acceptance rates right now and that you're right. it's about how many you reject brag about how low acceptance rate i mean, state schools used to brag about

how many people i went to rutgers, a huge state school in new jersey was more proud. we so many people i went to. i won't say what school but we went to one of these programs where the dean got up. the dean of admissions and said, our current acceptance rate is 7% and then he was gleeful and he said, but we think it's going to fall down to five or four caught himself because he realized that he was gloating about the fact that there except the best goal, we would protect all the kids like we was 0% the best school ever. we reject everybody, let's open a college and reject everybody will be number one. these rankings rented and tortured generations of students, parents and guidance counselors. he revolved their entire futures around what they were. and in addition to all the awful things you just mentioned. it also set up this false idea that these are the schools that everyone should want to go to, instead of. why don't you find the school? that's the best for you. there's no list of that. so i

hated these hated these rankings . they're completely antiquated out of date, and they're just like a mean girls. it's like regina george of the you know of the lists. i hated it. i hope they all go away. i feel like we're in an upheaval in higher education. right now. you get this rankings thing. you've got the admissions case. you've had the admission scandal. you know that. send people to jail. you got people all over the country, the student loan question that's laying out there and people questioning whether what you pay to go to some of these high ranked schools is worth it. is it actually worth it compared to what else you could do with your life and where else you could do with it, so i think we're in the in the beginning of a great turbulence in how people are viewing, education, post high school and you know, going to the number one rated thing may not be for everybody and that may ultimately turn out. to be a good thing for america. if people go to the place that's right for them, or maybe even get trained to do something to advance point that will help them make the world better as

opposed to just, you know, grab some other degree that ultimately isn't fulfilling for them or their family are all rethinking it right now, for all those reasons that you said thank you all very much. okay? just ahead a south carolina mother speaking out tonight. about her son, steven smith and his mysterious death in 2015. it's now being investigated as a homicide, which she thinks it should have been all along and the murders of paul and maggie murdock apparently prompted this fresh looking at the case, so we're gonna hear from that mom. so what do you think of when i say mexico? i'm eva longoria. i'm exploring mexico to see how the people hola. are you hungry ? i'm always from their lands. wow. look at that. and their past have shaped a culinary tradition as diverse as its 32 states saloon area, searching

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stephen smith is now under investigation as a homicide, and it was the murderers of paul and maggie murdock that prompted this new scrutiny around his death. the first investigation of his death called it a hit and run. smith's mother tells cnn tonight that she believes her son actually died in a hate crime, not a hit and run. i'm open to the evidence and the only dispute i had was that it was not a hit and run. and that's what i've been playing from the beginning and i felt my son was murdered. he was beaten to death. and i think it was a hate crime and i don't care what your name is that has no value to me. but who? whatever your name is union be punished for what you did to my son. my panel is back with me. sc. it's very interesting. it was during the investigation of the murdoch murders. this kept coming up.

we've been told, the reporting suggests, and that is what prompted them to really look at it. it's been eight years for this poor month. who hasn't had any closure or an answer of what happened that night. there have there's been so much collateral damage around the murdochs, um and so many potential victims. um so much murder around this family, and, um this really only got its due attention because of the murders of paul and maggie. um. stephen smith investigation was kind of a side a side story , but it definitely wasn't a side story for this family who have always been wondering what is going on because they didn't wake sold. the case went cold and buster murdoch. um the remaining you know, sion of this family, the only one not dead or in jail, um, was rumored to have known stephen was rumored to

have maybe had a relationship with stephen. all of this is conjecture. but what is a fact we know from police video calls. several people called the police and said you need to look at buster. he was never interviewed. that's i'm sure infuriating for this family that deserves every bit as much justice as everyone else involved in this sordid saga, also saying that he might have been one of the last people to see stephen smith, according to the netflix documentary. um he buster was allegedly, um, called by stephen that night to come help him. uh you know, fill up his car with gas. we don't know if that actually happened, but there's seriously reason to go and investigate buster over this . he might have nothing to do with it. but the fact that he was not questioned, i think again says something about how untouchable this family was. and i just can't imagine how

frustrated this family must be feeling like their case. didn't matter as much as these other ones. did. we have a statement from buster murdoch. he denies any involvement in stephen smith's death, he says, quote these baseless rumors of my involvement with steven and his death are false, unequivocally deny any involvement in his death, and my heart goes out to the smith family. there are ways that you can in law enforcement investigate this forensically. i had a forensic expert who i used to work with. who would say a dead body is like a mini crime scene i had. look this death happened eight years ago. um i had a case where we dug up a body a person that had been missing for seven years. you can tell a lot from the remains. in fact, in this case, the forensic expert was able to tell that the cause of death was a blunt force injury to the head. i mean, you know, we all note bones last teeth last, but these experts have a remarkable ability to look at even even a body that's that's badly decayed. that's been in the ground for a long

time. um, you can tell an awful lot so. you know if they're going to investigate, that's gonna have to be a key part of it was saying there's a lot of murder around the family. i think it's more accurate to say there's a lot of death around this family. the housekeeper. here's here's the timeline. um in 2015. stephen smith was found dead in the middle of the road. we don't know what that is yet. gloria satterfield, who was their housekeeper had died in a fall of according to authorities. alex. no. uh no. according to alex murdoch. she was at their home at the time in 2018 told police she fell over the dogs fell over the dogs and tripped down the stairs. that's what he said, um and then, of course, the young woman, mallory beach, who was in the boat that the other son was driving recklessly. paul was driving recklessly. and then, of course, maggie and paul were murdered to death as we now know biology. so what's particularly interesting is that they're not investigated thoroughly because they were in this county. you know, a big family. um you know, in all

these cases where, um you see that mother you know, but i think this about about the police case we just reported on a while back in memphis, and we saw the mom on tv there. it's just your heart breaks. when you see these parents and family members and especially mama's on television. when they just they just haven't been given the ability to close these matters to understand these matters. and they'll never really put it behind them, but to sort of have to live your life in a shroud of i have no idea what happened here, the compounding interest of that on your sorrow of losing a child. i can't even begin to fathom. and so i think this family deserves all the investigation. anybody can give them so that they can get the truth anybody should want and i mean, and of course, there are false leads called in all the time. i mean, unintentionally, people think that they're drawing a connection, and they call in to the police and they had their sure of it and they have a lead, but the evidence

doesn't necessarily end up running, and that's why the police should then investigate. and if the police don't investigate the false friends or the real ones. then you have this unknowing and this torture for the family. thank you all very much. really appreciate that. stay with me if you would, because up next day two of these ski accident trial involving gwyneth paltrow. she was in court again. today we'll discuss what happened. hey hey, hey, get awayay 10. years ago, , i invend the ring video doorbell for moments like that and ring security cameras for moments like this video. protect your home away. i do learn more at ring dot com. this is how to spin lt £33 on noon. wait tasted psychological approach to weight loss name is taught me how you think about food has such a huge impact on your relationship with that and make it last with noon. wait.

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on a beginner ski slope, causing him to suffer quote a brain injury, four broken ribs and other serious injuries. but paltrow alleges that sanderson hit her and she is counter suing him for her legal fees. i'm back with my panel. um so, ellie, how do you? how are you going to determine as a lawyer or a jury who ran into whom? on a ski mountain in 2000? i think this was 16. it's a straight up factual issue for the jury. they'll testify about what happened. i don't imagine there's surveillance but i don't listen. i've never skied in my life. i'm proud to say admission. i don't think i ever will. but i don't know or do they are their surveillance videos of skiing. there could be witnesses, witnesses, and you just decide who was in the wrong. i guess there's there were witnesses. certified in this case, we're going to testify. they were witnesses right? and i guess there's rights of way who's going to fast and who's away? are they that kind of thing? but let's talk about that, aren't you? i mean, legally speaking, um aren't you taking an inherent

risk when you in fact, i swear when you get the ski lift ticket, aren't there? small print? yes, says you might die, but it says you it says i won't sue the resort, right? but it doesn't it doesn't cover celebrity. the result. yes exactly if you can show the other person's negative. agent and then you can sue them the same as if someone runs into on the street. scott's uncomfortable with this whole thing. well i don't know a lot about skiing. i do know a little about gwyneth paltrow like her in the movies. she's in the iron man movies. she's pepper pods. also on the other hand cells strange lady part product. like what? scott which tell us more about that, which does not inherently make her a bad skier . necessarily i do feel like that. if you go on the skiing, there's trees, rocks, skiing people. it's dangerous. you're going down the mountain to the point? yes it and i just i mean , anything people get hurt out

there, and i just think you take on some risk that gwyneth paltrow might run you down now. i don't know if she did, but i just i think i'm on team gwyneth here. all in all things considered and some of it. i'm weird about. i just i think i'm with gwyneth here. i'm looking forward to her testimony on friday. that's awesome. has anyone on this panel skied? i mean, yeah, he's ki okay. i do to rescue you don't ski, you don't speak. no i don't want to die. i mean, southern boys, southern boyfriends, right northeastern area. can i just say of all the people in the world who would run into you on a ski slope? gwyneth paltrow has got to be among the best because a she's not large and be she's rich. right i mean, it's the perfect person. it's like much better than getting run into by , like lock or something fatal. remember famous people have died doing this. i mean, natasha richardson. that's right. alright so dangerous sport. yes it is. but usually you assume i

mean, generally, if you run to somebody, it's not fatal and you don't get sued. usually yeah. if she if she were not gwyneth paltrow, i don't think she would be sued. right now. i will say i really can. we just make scott like our cnn. gwyneth paltrow correspondent. yes excluding the only person i want to hear from on that i agree with that because he doesn't know much about her, but obviously part pots and her she should call her candles, pepper parts. good idea. just killed your marketing genius. unbelievable. oh, god question. break at some point here we get in trouble. no we're on. we're on. this is live. we're pressing on all i know about gwyneth, um and her weird stuff. um listen, she just went through the wringer about her like detox regimen. um, what did she do? oh you don't even want to know. i mean, she's she's on her podcast. she's hooked up to

an ivy. she starts with bone broth and she fast for 16 hours and all these doctors came out and said, do not do this. this is not like healthy or scientific. what is she to detox from? since she's people are asking, what are you detoxing from? every day? um, so she was dealing with that scandal. this might actually be a an improvement for her right now. well, here is what apparently okay, so this is what was testified to in court today. this is the radiologist testifying. to how the victim, i guess if that's the right word or at least the alleged victim deteriorated after this collision with alone. oh, he was . every day doing lots of things meet up groups skiing wine tasting. volunteering for various organizations and so forth, but after his accident, he deteriorated abruptly. and many of the activities that he used to do. he stopped doing

like dancing for the most part, his skiing activities. his personal interactions with his children and his grandchildren suffered. he had trouble multitasking. okay that's sad. now. we're not so pro glynn it but i'm not sure that her bumping into him caused all of that would be a question for the jury. they'll have to weigh that doctor's credibility. sometimes what happens in a case like this, by the way is private investigators will watch what you do and that they can do this and they can. if they it would be interesting. it happens. sometimes in personal injury cases. i don't really do them, but i've never done one. but but i know from other people. they'll watch you and they'll say, oh, but nobody goes to the y works out and they don't know. follow you. so i don't know. we'll see if there's a twist like that. also that maybe the curation started before, and that's why you went running into her. in other words, like you gotta think this stuff through there was a ski instructor involved and another allegation in this is that after they realized they knocked the guy down, he claims they skied away

like wait like they ran off from the scene believe that the instructor doesn't really do that on the mountain. you work for the mountain. i just i find that one implausible, but he was as of originally this alleged victim was suing her for millions of dollars and reduced it. what does that tell you, ali? it tells. it tells me that he was i was going to say over his skis. i was on it tells it tells me that he was his demand was too high. i think it's interesting. she's countersuing him, but but her damages are $1, which just means he was actually in the wrong i wasn't her, but he was in the wrong of course, he wants him to pay her attorney's fees, which could run into the six figures. it's also just interesting to see a celebrity like random paltrow in uh why wouldn't you settle this, i think is she didn't do anything wrong necessary to go through scott jennings. do you know her? like why don't you didn't do anything wrong? been worth it would have been worth it. the page commission understand for the pain to keep scott jennings from talking about her on cnn paltrow correspondent signing off. never

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died and now a part of eight dolphins washed ashore and died yesterday in what they call a mass stranding event on a beach in sea isle city, new jersey. two were dead. six others were in such bad condition that they were humanely euthanized. wildlife biologist jeff corwin, host of wildlife nation is back with us tonight. jeff i'm sorry that we keep having to have you on because it seems like this keeps happening, but this one in particular is really disturbing . eight dolphins in a mass stranding of that, meaning they were all part of the same pod. this happened all at the same time to them. exactly alison. these are very social, gregarious species, incredibly intelligent marine mammals. they survived together in numbers, and oftentimes, when they get in trouble, they can find themselves in jeopardy or dying in numbers as well. and that's exactly what happened here. and, as you alluded to it is about um , just in the past few months

we've had over 23 strandings of whales and dolphins, and much of them have ended tragically just like this, and when you say when they get in trouble, they would all get in trouble together. what gets them in trouble? well they all get into trouble together because they're traveling, surviving together equal locating navigating through the treacherous waters along the eastern seaboard, but there's a number of things that can cause strandings. now with the largest situations which, as you know, alison are big brain mammals like humpback whales and right whales. they've been getting hit by large container vessels when they find themselves at the wrong side of the end of his ship in a shipping lane. with when you get large pods are groups of dolphins like this. it can be the result of diseases such as bacteria, infections, viruses, parasites, it can be, uh, navigational, stranding costs from storms or from super tides

from pollution from um starvation, plastics. we collectively alison dumped over £10 billion of plastics in our oceans every year, and that often ends up into these incredible creatures in their digestive systems. they get entangled and ghost nets. all of these things contribute to what would cause these creatures to strand. it's so disturbing, jeff . but is there any indication yet? or is it too early to know what happened with these eight dolphins? well they'll be trying to this is now a big marine mammal, sexy stories. so the state of new jersey along with local experts, like the marine mammal stranding center will be doing what we call a necropsy, which basically is an op topsy for an animal, and they will delve into that to look at their chemistry. we know. for example , whales will, uh, dolphins along the florida coastline in the inter coastal system. have a

long history with heavy metals and chemicals inside their bodies. they will explore that to see if that's the case where i live right here, alison i'm in cape cod. thankfully we have i fall, which is the indian international fund for animal welfare. they have their marine mammal rescue team. incredibly just over 20 years they've rescued over 5000 creatures just like this that find themselves in harm's way. but it's a urgent mystery we need to solve because we can't keep allowing these incredible creatures to be dying in our shorelines. absolutely jeff corwin. thank you very much. really appreciate you coming on and explaining what's happening there as best we can at this point. before we go tomorrow on cnn this morning, shark tank's kevin o'leary explains, the banking crisis with the fed is doing and what's going on with housing prices. so make sure you tune in for that that'll be 7 45 eastern, right

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