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the chance of severe weather oklahoma all the way up toward arkansas, missouri for today, but then a little bit farther to the east for tomorrow. another tornado day. maybe not an outbreak today, but certainly that possibility really ramps up tomorrow as we get all the way down into parts of louisiana, arkansas, memphis, little rock. those are the areas that are really most concerned with. and this is what it looks like for tomorrow. this red area right through here, the highest degree of severe weather, but anywhere in these colors, you can see severe weather. tomorrow afternoon, christine right march , knocking on the door of april. that's when, uh that's when we see this kind of stuff. nice to see you, chad. thank you. good to see you. alright thanks for joining me. i'm christine romans, cnn this morning starts right now. good morning, everyone. welcome to cnn this morning. we are glad you're waking up with us. so let's get started here. the five things you need to know for this thursday, march 23rd new legal trouble for donald trump is attorney in the classified
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documents investigation has been directed to testify and in the hush money probe here in new york. that grand jury will reconvene today. so this this morning the ceo of tiktok will testify before congress. we're told that he's going to argue that his app is not a security risk and shouldn't be banned angeles community also cleaning up from a rare tornado, the national weather service says that it is the strongest twister to hit the area in 40 years in an off duty pilot now being hailed as a hero on a southwest flight, the airline says he stepped in to help the fly the plane after the captain got sick. and also today, the march madness is back on the first sweet 16 game of the men's tournament is set to tip off this morning starts right now. all right. good morning, everyone. we are tracking really
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big developments wow! overnight into two different investigations into former president trump. he just suffered a major legal blow and the special counsel's probe of classified documents at mara lago, trump's own defense attorney, has been ordered to testify tomorrow and to turn over evidence. this time he will not be able to claim attorney client privilege to some of those key questions in the probe, which includes obstruction, obstruction of justice and appeals court. has agreed that trump may have used that lawyer to break the law when federal agents were trying to locate and retrieve top secret files at trump's private club and here in new york. in a separate probe, we could see significant movement in the stormy daniels hush money investigation. today that grand jury will reconvene and the manhattan district attorney has a crucial decision to make before that grand jury votes on a possible indictment. will he bring key witness michael cohen back again to testify after his credibility was called into question. just days ago, the grand jury heard testimony from
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cohen's former legal adviser, robert costello, who claims cohen is a quote serial liar who quote decided on his own to pay adult film actress stormy daniels and keep her quiet about an alleged affair with trump. kira's canal has been following all of it. she's with us now. alright, let's begin in new york. uh, with what album bragged the d a is gonna do. do you bring michael cohen back? and then that kind of wraps it up for the grand jury, right? i mean, there have there are only so many people that know about the hush money payments and the whole series of events that led up to it most of them if not all of them have been before the grand jury. you know, they notified trump. they invited him to come in, which is required under new york law. he declined . then they brought in a witness that trump had asked for. that was bob costello. now the decision is do they feel that they need to bring michael cohen back into rebut anything that, costello said. i mean, one of the things that costello said that stood out to me was he was telling he at least he told us he told the grand jury that you
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know when he saw michael cohen and he was up against the ropes , and when he was in a, you know, desperate state because this investigation the federal investigation was closing in on him. and he said then that cohen still would not implicate trump in this, so it's the question is that what prosecutors feel they need to potentially bring cohen back into answer. this is all a bit of a black box, the grand jury process, but this is, according to sources, this is the this is the question that they're weighing. do they need to bring cohen in? and once that decision is determined, you know , then things could move quickly . then they'll decide. okay. do we like our case? do we want to bring this case and then you know it doesn't take very long for the grand jury to act. the concern yesterday is about why you know why the delay? why nothing yesterday, but you don't know what's going on inside. they need more testament. they may need more testimony. they may not have had a quorum of people. some people may not have shown up or what have you needed the day off. you never know. these are just sort of perfunctory things that can happen so we shouldn't read into anything about a possible delay with the grand jury. i don't
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know. i don't think so. i mean, like you said, it could be a scheduling issue. it could be something you know this is this is a big decision to indict a former president. it's never been done before. four so it certainly is something that you would expect prosecutors to want to be careful about. you know, i'm sure they want to review their evidence. it's a big decision, not only a big decision it's ever been done before, but with a legally really tough case to meet the bar at the threshold for it's a case that has never been decided by a judge. you know, you've never had someone be charged with falsifying business records for campaign finance violations , and that going to trial you know this has been a case in area where people have played out. so it hasn't been really tested in that way. and so that also is a big question for them to decide if this is the one they want to bring to test it, parascandola. thank you. get one. okay, so that's what's happening here in new york, you might be easily confused. there are two investigations that we're tracking this morning. this one that we're going to talk about. now is the classified documents case there has been a major legal defeat
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for former president trump and essentially what it means is that tomorrow one of his defense attorneys is still scheduled currently to go testify but without the attorney client privilege that he had the last time, he testified. of course, all of this depends on whether or not they are going to appeal. but we are told right now that that's pretty unlikely. so what we could see we play out tomorrow is incredibly significant in and of itself. this is how we got here. there's a three judge panel in the d c circuit court of appeals. and they ruled yesterday that this defense attorney evan corcoran, doesn't just have to testify. he also has to turn over some notes regarding conversations with the former president. as part of this criminal investigation into the potential mishandling of the classified documents that were taken tomorrow, lago, a source tells me that the documents include handwritten notes transcribed verbal notes about his representation representation of trump in the case that is part of the bigger picture here. prosecutors didn't get their hands on those back in january, when he was testifying before the grand jury for about four hours or so. and also that was when corcoran declined to answer some of their questions,
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citing that attorney client privilege that has all changed. now the case is completely different given the justice department has successfully argued to a judge who agreed with him that there's enough evidence about trump's interactions with corcoran. that he might have used corcoran and furtherance of a fraud or crime , so as the front crowd from exception. this is how the four presidents team is responding overnight, telling me in a statement, there is no factual or legal basis or any substance to the any case against president trump. they say the real story here is that prosecutors only attack lawyers when they have no case whatsoever. for more perspective on this. i want to bring in cnn's senior legal analyst, ellie honing, ellie. obviously this is really rare to see. the justice department successfully argue that they can pierce this attorney client privilege for evan corker in this defense attorney caitlin so this story it starts last summer. if you go back to 2022, so remember, doj and archives is trying to recover all these documents from mar a lago. they're negotiating until may when they service
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subpoena on donald trump's team, saying, you have to hand us over. all the documents you have left. now the next month, trump's team turns over a small pile of documents, but they also send in a certification when officials from the doj came tomorrow, lago right, exactly, so they gave him a certification that said, we've looked everywhere and there are no documents left here zero. you have them all we know that was untrue, because two months later doj does the search warrant and they find 100 plus classified documents. so doj is now focused very much on that certification because if it was false, and it was full that could be a crime. here is what the certification specifically says quote. a diligent search was conducted of the boxes that were moved from the white house to florida and no copy written notation or reproduction of any kind was retained as to any responsive document. now that signature is blacked out there, but we know the person who signed it was donald trump's attorney, christina bob. we also know that she got a lot of the information from and this is the important
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attorney here. even corcoran, another attorney, and they both got some of the information from donald trump. art of that letter, though, is it said to the best of my knowledge. that is something that i think we are going to see potentially be one of the biggest phrases. this entire song important, lawyerly hedge, caitlin and now the attorney client privilege, as you mentioned before, is going to come into play because back in january, this attorney kevin corker went in, and he answered questions in front of the grand jury. but he refused to talk about certain of his conversations with donald trump, which is normal. that is what attorneys typically would do right. they wouldn't talk about their close automatically do you would say it's privileged, however, doj is trying to use successfully. now what's called the crime fraud exception. here's what that means if an attorney and client are talking about an ongoing crime together. that is not privileged. so, for example, if you hire me as your attorney, and you told me six months ago, i robbed a bank that is privileged. but if you say to me, hey, why don't you and i get together and we'll do a bank robbery. that is an ongoing crime that you're trying to commit with me that is going to be under the crime fraud
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exception now, doj theory is that the person who committed the potential crime here is donald trump. that's really important. what's the crime? potential crime? obstruction we've seen this before? because in the search warrant to search , mara lago, doj said to a judge . we believe that evidence of obstruction and that's the crime obstruction of justice will be found at the premises. now, caitlin if you go to a judge and asked the judge to break through that privilege, you don't have to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. that's it. trial. all you have to show is what's called a prima facie case, which means what one of these latin phrases that means on its face like it sounds like you just have to make sort of the base. of a showing. the other thing is, there are some situations where prosecutor can go to a judge and just say take our word for it. we have enough evidence here. you have to do more. you have to prove specific evidence to a judge. and so that's what doj did. last week they went to the district court, which ruled in their favor. they said yes, this judge said, yes, i find there's evidence of the crime fraud exception. and just yesterday, the court of appeals ruled 30 agreeing with the district court. so i want to
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talk about one big thing here because a lot of people wanting to know why they didn't appeal to the supreme court. i think that was what people thought. immediately would happen when we got this when this showed up on the docket yesterday, as we were all refreshing it they're not going to the supreme court. they're not appealing this. corcoran is still scheduled to go testify unless they change something tomorrow. it could have made that decision. they could have tried to get it to the supreme court. it has to be a tactical decision. it has to be. they lost so decisively here and with all three judges here, they have to have just decided why go to the supreme court and get slapped down there and caitlin, you're right. the next steps corcoran is going to testify. and importantly, as you reported, he has to turn over his handwritten notes. from the time they're right, very rare and also really important evidence, because that's what he was writing down at the time. while this was all happening, it's really important evidence for doj is and i think one thing we should notice. we have no idea what he'll say tomorrow. we don't even know what the notes show. those are the still big questions we have this morning. that's a lot to break down. but you did so very successfully. so
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thank you so much for that, all right. ella caitlin. thank you very much. here's something that you rarely see. take a look at this as a tornado hitting near los angeles. that's right, a tornado hitting near los angeles touchdown, an industrial area of mata bellow and sent debris flying everywhere. i saw what looked like a waterspout kind of tornado twister. that was about 30 ft. wide that just came through and was just bouncing like a cop in between picking up debris. the whole sky looked like a dump 17 buildings in the area of the impact zone have been inspected by our montebello fire department. 11 of those 17 buildings have been red tagged due to the damage that they've experienced. so here's what officials are saying here. one person was injured. one person was hurt, but others there who were injured miner right. california gets fewer than 10 tornadoes every year. the one in montebello was the strongest in
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the state and 40 years. a weaker one hit tuesday about an hour northwest of l. a. happening today. tiktok's chief executive on capitol hill fighting to save the app that 150 million americans used by the administration has threatened to ban tiktok in the u. s. if it's chinese owners don't say their shares in the company as vanessa cabbage joins us now, with the very latest on this. this is interesting. good morning, vanessa. good morning, so the tiktok ceo shu shu is appearing today on capitol hill. he's prepared for this. this is his opportunity to convince lawmakers that china and the chinese government has no bearing no control over tiktok, but the very same legislators. he's going to be testifying in front of have already made up their mind. in some cases, they believe that china, in fact does have control over tiktok many support legislation that would severely restrict tiktok many support a total ban on tiktok. some are calling this hearing today explosive looking that it too, that it will be explosive, probably right for some tiktok
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moments of its own. tiktok the wildly popular social media sensation has taken america by storm, with nearly half of all americans creating uploading and watching videos, but now the company finds itself in the crosshairs of a political debate . hi everyone. it's show here and the ceo of tiktok ceo showed you announcing his arrival in dc on tiktok as he gears up to face lawmakers thursday in a high stakes hearing amid threats from the white house to ban the app in the u. s. chinese parent company, bytedance sells their steak. this is quite literally an existential issue for tiktok . this is life or death will be grilled on tiktok perceived threat to us national security. legislators have raised concerns over the chinese government's ability to use tiktok to spy on americans and collect their personal data. the app is already banned on federal devices, and nearly half of all
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states have banded on state owned devices. so many instances it just appears that china is not our friend. now they've got this enormously popular and powerful application that has basically captivated the minds of the next generation of americans. what are they doing with that information, but shoe has been insistent. china has no influence over the app, and it's 150 million u. s users. the chinese government has actually never asked us for us user data, and we've said this on the record. that even if we will ask for that we will not provide that. but top u. s intelligence officials believe otherwise. this is a tool that is ultimately within the control. of the chinese government and it to me it screams out with national security concerns, but there is no public evidence. this is happening. the government has not provided a smoking gun, but maybe the government doesn't need to provide a smoking gun. it's
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about that possibility. why the hysteria and the panic representative jamal bowman, hosting tiktok creators at the capital just hours before the hearing. it poses about the same threat. that companies like facebook and instagram and youtube and twitter polls. so let's not marginalize and target tiktok. the trump administration tried and failed to ban tiktok in 2020. several courts ruled it violated the international emergency economic powers act, a law that biden administration is also up against. does it have any new legal authorities or powers to actually do it? no and so this is why we come back to. we're likely to get a restriction on tiktok based on what the executive branch can do right now. a complete ban, practically speaking, is unlikely at this point. and to try to address some of these
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because security concerns. tiktok says that as of june of 2022, they have moved all us privacy data onto us servers. but last year in december we saw some bite, dance employees surveilling and tracking data of journalists here in the u. s is going to preemptively tell congress today is abhorrent, you know right away. yeah i hope we're able to separate fact from fiction and fear today in the hearing. i think it's really important, right? what has happened? what is the risk and what can be done about it? but what's also fear driven versus factor. there's certainly fear from legislators based on probably fiction or what they've heard. shoe is expected to read 12 pages of testimony. laying all that out. congress is really good with nuance. luckily so sure he is huge sarcasm this morning. for breakfast. thank you appreciate it. oh, and be sure to catch cnn. prime time is
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going to take a special look at the app that is in everyone's pocket. except for me. i don't have it. i don't have any other, but it is a national security threat. that's the question. is it a national security threats in his abby phillip will host its is time up for tiktok. tonight at nine. p.m. eastern. also the federal reserve raising interest rates amid the banking fallout that we've seen as it is targeting inflation. we're going to break down the impact that it has for you next. nice job investing souththwest cat. make your dream car. a reality. mercedes benz certified pre owned vehicles are rigorously inspected to live up to the highest of expectations. come on
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reserve, not letting up on its mission to curb inflation. it is raised interest rates yet again , this time by a quarter percentage point. that is the ninth straight increase move coming despite concerns about a hike that it could further stress a banking system that is already seen. two regional lenders fail. so what happens next? christine romans, our chief business correspondent and anchor of early start joins us now so good morning. how did how did they fetch air? explain this decision you know, he said that making system is solid and strong, but that we still needed to be fighting against inflation here, so the feds saying it can it can walk and chew gum at the same time, apparently in nine in a row here, and this brings the high end of the rate to the highest since 2007 so the highest rates since 2007 and the fed chief also noted that the banking fallout could actually to be working in the favor of the fed in a disruptive way, of course, but it could be actually
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slowing lending. these banks are becoming more cautious with lending to consumers and companies and that could have a disinflationary effect here. so that's one way the banking sector and the drama we've seen there is feeding into the decisions, unfair interest rates . what we've been watching very carefully is when you start to jack up rates the way we have over history, you can see these periods where rates rise. and then in a recession follows again and again, you see this pattern? the shadow the shaded area here is a recession. these are the rate hikes heading into it. the recession we had very short in 2020 was because of the pandemic. that was a unique situation, but we have raised interest rates are quite dramatically. the fed has here. so there are some concerns that that that pathway to get through this without a recession may be narrowing here. okay so what's happening here? this means for you again higher interest rates for mortgages. edit cards, auto loans and student loans. and you've already been feeling this. this is what's cooling the housing market. the typical $500,000 home look, a year ago,
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you would have paid one thing this year. you would pay 607 more a month because of those higher interest costs. what can you do about it? look what the fed does is out of your control. i would just caution everybody pay down credit card debt at interest rates like this. it is dangerous for your standard of living. avoid store cards. those interest rates are 30% if you have savings search for higher yields in your bank account and considered treasury. i bonds. we can talk more about that later, another time, but this is a high yielding very safe $10,000 investment you can make in the next few months through treasury. direct which is the fed's very close the treasury's very clunky website, but it is something a lot of people are doing guys smart, christine romans. thank you look up smart in the dictionary, christine's pictures right next to it. thank you, christine. we'll see you soon. you're welcome. alright right now. 12,000 police officers are deployed on the streets of france's hundreds of protesters gathered there and in the airport. to combat the country's pension reform law
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coming out of france this morning where 12,000 police officers have mobilized as the country is bracing for more protests and more strikes over a policy coming from the french president that would increase the retirement. age from 62 to 64. you were looking at a live picture of the streets in paris right now. earlier this week, president macron survived to no confidence votes and his government did after that controversial plan was pushed through cnn's melissa bell is live in paris. tracking all of this. i mean, melissa, we were looking at this yesterday. we're looking at what macron has been saying he's essentially arguing that it's going to be worth it that if he is going to shoulder this unpopularity. what are people on the streets, saying about his comments? well they're pretty angry, caleb and not just at the idea of this hike in the retirement age, as you say, emmanuel macron, the french government, making it clear that for reasons of public finances, this is a necessary move. but people out there are still pretty upset by it. it is more
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than 70% of french population that are against it. the unions are united. we're expecting huge crowds on the streets of paris. but also across the country. what we've seen these last few weeks, caitlin or sometimes more than a million people taking to the streets to make their displeasure known. it's of course, nationwide strikes once again. there are images this morning coming from charles de gaulle airport, showing the blockage there. they've taken to the oil refineries and already we're starting to see. is people running out of petrol at the gas pumps, queues forming there as well. and it is these nationwide strikes with which the unions intend to really make francis and governable as they can for the coming future. as far as the law itself goes, caitlin is going through. it only has to pass one last constitutional hurdle. and that is that the constitutional council which will rule on its constitutionality, but it has been pushed through parliament without a vote. and beyond the fact of the unhappiness that's out there about the raising of the age from 62 to 64. there's the question of how it's been
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pushed through parliament, and i think that's really finished to make people quite angry. and so we expect huge crowds on the streets of paris and across the country once again today, caitlin shutting down schools and paralyzing ports. melissa bell, thank you for that update. a very close eye on what's happening in paris because that is extraordinary. also ahead. we're going to take you inside the supreme court's drive to the right and its historic consequences are drum biskupic new reporting on the closed door maneuverings among the justices as they roll back abortion access. the securities and exchange commission charging several celebrities over crypto what they did. that cost them thousands of dollars. comedy's biggest stars are coming to cnn kennedy center presents the mark twain prize for american humor celebratating adam sandler. hean kennedy center. what have you done? your career has stood the test of time, my friend, special guests, music and more. the mark
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this is just part of the fallout from overturning roe versus wade and the supreme court's lurched to the right. so how did we get here, or senior supreme court analyst joan biskupic has the inside story in her new book, nine black robes for five years, she has been working on this looking at donald trump's impact on the high court's reappointments in just four years. she talked to more than 100 insiders, including most of the justices themselves. here's one big scoop in the book that has led to a lingering distrust among the justices. chief justice john roberts administrative team ordered the late ruth bader ginsburg office cleared out within days of her memorial service, and that is not how it usually works. she also reports that rbg s death had an impact on virtually every major legal issue that this court has heard since jonas here before we talk, john congrats on the book. just incredibly rave reviews. all right, let me just read some court watchers and civil rights activists alike will find this essential and disturbing reading another
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review, saying it isn't up to the minute laser focused examination of the court devoted court watchers will devour this behind the scenes expose. i can tell you i did, too. i got an early copy. with a million notes and it's fascinating. joan. congratulations thanks so much, poppy. it's really good to be here with you. thanks you open the book, joan with this, the first page, you quote the descent in dobbs, which overturned roe versus wade, and that descent had a key line quote. no one should be confident this majority is done with his work. why did you start with that? you know, poppy dabs was so defining of this court row v. wade came down in 1973 and year after year. decade after decade, the supreme court upheld it. that all changed when justice amy coney barrett succeeded ruth bader ginsburg and i show in the book and in this first piece that cnn is posting just how much the timing of her appointment enabled. the
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mississippi officials who are defending a ban on abortion to succeed at the court, and how much that made the difference. and then you mentioned kind of a symbolic episode that involved rbg as she was known when her all of her possessions and office supplies. were moved down to a dark theater on the first floor, and her staff had to sort through things there. it was sort of symbolic of how her legacy was. then you know, you know, ripped up, especially on reproductive rights almost immediately. it really was. what one thing i found fascinating that i just did not know before . is your reporting on justice kavanaugh and how, especially on the issue of abortion, sort of trying to have it both ways. and in many ways, sending double signals to his fellow justices, about which way he would go and sort of publicly excoriating one lower court judge but then sending that same judge a letter praising them. yeah that was
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interesting. you know, justice kavanaugh is smack at the ideological center of this court , so he has a lot of power, but it gives a lot of mixed signals to his colleagues on the court and to people beyond the marble walls. certainly on abortion. he did that both in the dabs case in the earlier texas case, but either episodes you're referring to is when i learned about in 2019, the supreme court by a narrow vote rejected the trump administration's effort to add a citizenship ship. question to the census questionnaire and, uh , just brett kavanaugh was in descent, and he joined with other justices to criticize a lower court judge who had rejected the trump move on the census. and then he writes this judge a personal note saying, you know, i actually respect you trying to persuade the judge not
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to take seriously the very harsh condemnation that he and others had put in this descent, which i thought was pretty revealing. very revealing. yeah i you obviously wrote the chief your book about john roberts before this and you know him better, i think than any journalists alive , and one thing you write about justice roberts in this book is quote he was witnessing a chord in overdrive barreling ahead without him in deciding significant social issues. and you know that he has become the first chief justice without an ideological majority. whose? whose court is this now? is this the roberts court? it is, to an extent, poppy. just think he's still he's still in charge and has a majority for things like race and religion. you know, we're going to see in the in the harvard case that you've followed so closely probably take the lead to roll back affirmative action on college campuses. but as we witnessed in
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abortion, he social policy issues is where the court is really slipping from his grasp and more fundamentally, poppy. his brand of incrementalism has been rejected by the justices to his right. just as clearance. thomas and neil gorsuch have a real sense of urgency to move further further further to the right and very fast, which is against his style. very quickly . there is maneuvering between the justices here even though they abhor the mention that they engage in sort of this for that you reveal how they do it. they do in poppy. during the trump years. there was almost a paradox. they didn't want to seem political. but they engaged in more packs and, uh, delayed cases and tried to sort of do things behind the scenes that would make them appear less political. and that's where some of the justices on the far right felt like the court was going to
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lose its integrity but to some, including the chief, it was the only way to avoid the partisan abyss. yeah and you get into examples of him engaging in this as well, joan. it's a fascinating read again. here it is. nine black robes. it comes out next week. april 4th. congratulations, joan. thank you. poppy needs to know more about the court, literally just because it's so she takes you into their chambers and what i find fascinating. these justices don't talk to her, except to her great numbers just out this morning reveal the growing struggle for college students in america why many are considering dropping out? hundreds of starbucks employees across the nation are taking to the streets ahead of a big shareholders meeting today, we'll tell you what they are demanding from their new ceo. healtlth this morning. brought to you by interest cellular therarapies.
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this morning, a just released gallup survey finds a growing number of college students have considered stopping out or withdrawing for a period of time not dropping out, but stopping out more than 40% of all students say that they considered it in the past six months. the main reason emotional stress and personal mental health. they now far outweigh things like financial or academic issues. so joining us now to break this all down is dr rebecca berry. she's a clinical psychiatrist, psychologists and child and adolescent psychiatry professor at n y u good morning. thank you very much. i wanted to ask you the big takeaways here. but if i can jump ahead a little bit, does this have anything to do with covid and how it's changed us and people. we haven't quite figured out how much mental issues and other things that we're dealing with. but after covid going to be a part of it, you know, we've seen a growing trend with college students in general, with a rise in depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation really within the past
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decade, and then we have the period of covid, which we know that that can for many individuals have exacerbated those conditions. and so i think what we're seeing here is that college students are considering right. they're more aware of what's happening within themselves and this emotion. distress and they now considering an option. what do i do now? when i have this emotional distress and they're saying that stopping out is one of those options, so i think that what the this poll is suggesting is that it's not necessarily tied to covid. it could be part of this overall trend that we've been seeing really within the past decade or so. hmm. i was struck by its a lot more women than men in this study that are what do you know why? i think generally the trends for reporting of emotional distress really do vary by gender. we tend to see that women due to societal norms and just the way that we are sometimes program to, you know, talk about our feelings or that it's expected more so sometimes then the types of roles that are put on men to disclose of their
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feelings and talk about them. yeah i do think also, student. younger students are way more more willing to talk about this and people were previously and like you said, not just talk about it, but also they're willing to say okay, i'm actually going to do not take the conventional route and do something different, right? my brother is a freshman on a college campus right now. and one thing that i think about even when i was there the resources on a college campus. it's not that this is not something schools are unaware of . but are they equipped to be able to deal with it and not just say okay, here's a counselor like to actually really address the issue. i think you make to really excellent points there. i think young people in this generation this age gap between 18 and 24 are more willing to talk about what they're going through. i think that social media can play a role in that as well. and then there's this issue of whether or not the resources on campus have availability can and can't students access those available resources? and i think that many college campuses are doing a great job at trying to serve the needs of their student populations. and yet with this growing trend that we're seeing
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more and more students become aware of their feelings, become aware of the need to get services and there just aren't as many counseling centers aren't equipped to really serve that type of load. that's a good question. it's not just a matter when i was in college. just go to the infirmary for everything right? it wasn't specifically. yeah yeah, that's what you call it. just go to the infirmary. so listen, i looking into this study. um according to race and ethnicity play a factor in students expressing that these kinds of concerns what does it show so i think similarly, as i was mentioning to poppy, it shows that there there was a higher in this poll. higher likelihood of non hispanic or caucasian individuals to report on their emotional distress and we saw lower numbers within the hispanic or the black communities to do so. and i think that really speaks to the cultural change. trans, just generally. with regard to, you know, trust and being able to report these things and trust and accessing and heard absolutely i learned a lot. thank you. i mean, it's just such an interesting locket and so important with how many
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extreme pieces of anti gay legislation in the world. the bill imposes up to 20 years in prison for simply identifying as gay and also includes a death penalty. in certain cases, friends and family must also report individuals in same sex relationships to the authorities and the united nations high commissioner calling this bill draconian. the white house has warned uganda of possible economic repercussions here. the bill will now go to uganda's president who can choose to use his veto or sign it into law. last week, he called homosexuals. deviance. don thank you. i was just reading about what the u. n has said about this and how much if this gets signed into law, it will significantly hurt their efforts where the country had made so much progress on eliminating and fighting hiv and aids, and it's just stunning to see this time. it is stunning to see and you think about the draconian is, i think that's not a harsh enough word for what's happening and
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telling people to turn in. their loved ones and friends or anyone. yeah. yeah listen, we're not nearly there in the united states, but there's a concern about what's happening with the don't say gay bill and all of these sort of anti lgbtq initiatives that are on the ballot in certain areas were not this far in, but it certainly is a reminder of what can happen when you allow these things to continue to go down the pipe. so we're gonna be watching this one. but it is terrible and you're right about what happens with hiv and so on and so watch very closely with the president decides to do in that country. also this story lindsay lohan, jake paul taken, several other celebrities are forced to pay thousands of dollars to the securities and exchange commission for failing to disclose that they were paid to promote crypto lohan was fined over this 2021 tweet promoting tronics tokens well, failing to disclose that it was a paid endorsement. she agreed to pay $30,000 in fines. in addition to the $10,000 she earned for the promotion jake paul, who tweeted a similar endorsement, a day
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after lohan agreed to pay $75,000 in a fine on top of the 25,000 he earned from the company, soldier boy, austin mahone. well, yeah, i e. neo and a con. also find the sec also charged crypto entrepreneur justin sun was securities fraud, market manipulation and failing to disclose paid relationships with celebrities. guys, do you remember when kim kardashian she had to pay up over a million dollars for promoting crypto theory? um um, what's interesting is because they put their name behind these things. a lot of people flock to them, and obviously there's real safety and security concerns. and volatility all over the place with crypto. read the fine print. i mean, we we've seen the ramifications for things like this. careful where you put your name behind, right? amen also this morning, a tourist in thailand lucky to be alive after a thrill seeking bungee jump something a lot of tourists do went very wrong. idea.
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oh wow. notice mike, you can see there is it snaps swan dive from a 10 story podium. fortunately he was over a body of water. can you imagine if the water body of water there, of course he did, then managed to resurface and swim despite the fact that his feet were still tied together together. he was left covered in bruises. and he says the park did refund the cost of the jump paid for his x rays and ultrasound. scans. i think that's probably the least they could do. all right. we'll stay on top of that. that alarming video this morning twenties, okay, this morning continues right now. two pieces of former presidents, multifaceted legal saga we've learned that the district attorney's office is weighing whether or not they should bring

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