medicare. done well over time with bill maher, now on cnn tomorrow at 11 30. good morning, everyone. i'm john berman. and i'm erica hill today could could be the day of grand jury decides whether to indict former president donald trump. keep in mind never in the nation's history, has a sitting or former president been charged with a crime. so this, of course, because i know there's a lot happening legally here. this is the jury in manhattan that i'm referencing looking into former president the former president's hush money payments to stormy daniels. so as we wait for that decision, a judge handling a

different case involving the former president that classified documents probe has now ruled that trump's lawyer must testify that the attorney client privilege no longer applies here . but could the supreme court get involved now? we're going to watch. both of those cases were very closely throughout the morning fed chair jerome powell. he has now raised interest rates to fight inflation again, but was this hike? too much too soon for shaky banks to handle. the markets open in just 30 minutes. we are watching those very closely. and a terrifying manhunt after a school shooting is now over what police are saying about the moment they found the suspected shooter, a 17 year old student dead? we begin, though, here in new york, where a grand jury will we are reporting reconvened today in the trump hush money investigation as we wait to hear if the former president will be the first ever to be indicted as we just set the scene again to remind you all the manhattan d a. the grand jury there is

weighing whether to bring key witness and former trump attorney michael cohen back in for additional testimony. cnn's caress canal has been following this case for a long, long time . carol that way, so the grand jury is back today. do we know when they will have a decision on whether to bring michael cohen back in? well, eric engine we don't know this entire process is so secretive, taking place behind closed doors, just 23 new york citizens, but we do know that this grand jury is committing this afternoon. the last time they met was on monday. on monday, they heard from a witness, a witness that the trump side had asked the d a s office to put before them. that was bob costello, michael cohen's former attorney. and prosecutors now, according to our sources, are weighing whether to bring back additional witnesses. one of those witnesses could be michael cohen as a rebuttal witness. cohen had been on standby on monday, but costello's testimony went to the end of the day. he was not called back, but there are a lot

of factors that can affect the other up play in the grand jury process. i mean, they meet on mondays, wednesdays and thursdays. they didn't meet yesterday. for instance, and we don't know the reason why that they didn't but this grand jury also here's other cases, so it's really unclear to try to guess what the timing is or what the process is. that's taking place behind the scenes. but what does seem clear is that this is getting towards the end of a number of the witnesses that touched this campaign. um the campaign payments from the hush money payments before the campaign. they have already been in and met with the grand jury they've met with prosecutors. trump was given an opportunity to go in, and he chose not to. all the signals are that this is nearing an end. but we don't know exactly when this will be put before the grand jury if the district attorney decides he wants to move forward with an indictment, erica john carrots canal. uh but you are on the watch. so we know that as soon as we do know anything, you'll get back to us. appreciate it. thank you. as we mentioned there is another major development in

a different investigation involving donald trump. so this is the one that has to do with how classified documents were handled. those documents found at mara lago, trump's attorney, is now being ordered to testify tomorrow without attorney client privilege. that is, unless, of course, his side decides to appeal. so this means that even corker would have to testify. answer questions and hand over documents, including handwritten and verbal notes from the case. cnn's kaitlin poland's following this case for us do we know if the trump team or corcoran's going to try to appeal? do we expect this testimony to happen tomorrow? john and erica. it doesn't look like they're appealing. they're really running out of time, they would have had to get a court to put on hold this testimony in the turning over of documents, and that order from the appeals court came in yesterday and said no evan corker needs to show up to the grand jury when the justice department subpoenas in which we now know is for this friday and that he does need to turn over documents. there's been no response since then, so

it doesn't look like they're going to be appealing. it looks like this is going forward. and this is a very hotly anticipated moment. in the special counsel investigation, the special counsel has been trying to get answers out of evan corcoran for a long time. he was the primary defense attorney responding to this classified documents probe for donald trump for much of the time that they've been investigating it, telling them there may not be any more documents at mara lago even before the fbi came in and found many, many more. and so, with this testimony teed up for evan corcoran. the prosecutors do believe that he will be able to say something share some information that shows donald trump was trying to break the law in his conversations with the attorneys, so it really is the type of situation that could make or break the case that the special counsel's office is pursuing here. a criminal case obstruction mishandling of classified records. there's also this, you know another deadline today for another case dealing with lawsuits about the january

6th insurrection. what's the latest there, caitlin? right. so this is a civil case, not a criminal case, but it's a real another really big case that is likely or potentially could cause a lot of heartburn for donald trump in court. it's one of the cases that reminds us the amount of legal peril donald trump still faces related to the january 6th insurrection and what his actions were. or this day. this is a lawsuit where members of congress and capitol police officers are trying to hold him accountable liable for what he said on january 6th. trump has been arguing in court to an appeals court that he has absolute immunity for everything , he said and did while he was president of the united states. the justice department they were the last party to speak up in this case, and they said no, he doesn't have immunity for trying to incite violence. that's not something that the office of the presidency done. does and so he can't claim that in court. he gets to respond to that argument

today, but it is before the federal appeals court in d. c and we are going to have to wait and see what they do. it will be. it will be a very big decision when it comes down. you got a lot of work ahead of you, caitlin. i have a feeling caleb poland's thank you so much for being with us. we turn now to the complicated dance to tame inflation. while there are all these banking concerns going on, and just about 20 minutes, we're going to see how us markets respond this morning to fed chair jerome powell's moved to raise interest rates. cnn chief business correspondent christine romans with us now, christine investors don't normally enjoy an interest rate hike. i guess it's the it's the nice way to put it when we look at futures. what are they telling you this morning, so if we can pull those up, they'd stabilized here overnight, watching them all morning. as they as they trade in the premarket. as you said the stock market opens in about 20. three minutes now, but investors are still i guess. digesting you called it a delicate dance, john. i'm calling it juggling flaming chainsaws is what the fed chief

would be delicate. maybe, but i mean, it's really hard here. you have a banking system that started to get creaky after these not now. nine interest rate hikes in a row when you look at the steep hill of rate hikes, it really shows you what the fed has been trying to do a lot of criticism that they did it too late. started too late. that is, so look up to the right of your screen. there that is the interest rate hikes that we've had over the past year and those shaded areas on your screen. those are recessions. so what that chart is showing you is that periods of higher interest rates tend to precede recessions. no one knows what's going to happen next, and now we have the banking drama in all of this one thing that's interesting, i think is the banking drama might be doing some of the work for the fed. in a disorderly way. but if you have banks that are now concerned about how much money they have. if the deposits are leaving, they want to make sure that they're protecting themselves against their interest rate risk. they might lend a little less and a little more carefully and that can cool off the economy and beat disinflationary. so when interest rates go up, it does

mean that it's more expensive for consumers for us to borrow money. what does it mean for banks? what are the ripple effects for banks when rates go up? so one of the things that's happening here is because of this contagion and fear in the banking industry deposits are moving to bigger banks with the perceived safety bigger banks, but also people are starting to look for more yield, right if you're getting less than 1% your savings account you're looking around. you're like, wait a minute here if i can get more money somewhere else at a credit union or certificate, deposit or online bank. so you're starting to see money? move around that way, but your mortgages that we more expensive a new mortgage. it could mean that all these people 85% of mortgages i think are like 3.5% are under 5% those people aren't gonna move. so that could mean stasis in the housing market, right? you're going to sit on that 3.5% mortgage. i mean, you can also mean credit cards. the average a pr right now for credit card is above 20% for the first time in history. credit card is 30% these are the highest fed interest rates since 2007 folks. i'm just telling you if you've got borrowed money transfer,

john smiling because he's heard me say this before. it's really dangerous to be sitting on borrowed money that you're not paying off every month. so be real careful about those credit card bills. read the book i've read, you know, smartest in your read your instructions here, and this is the exact time you need to pay attention to that credit card really matter. credit cards really matters. and you and i have talked about the i bonds. they're still there places you can park your money right now, if you have excess money for safety. but really, this is a time for consumers to be defensive, the highest federal funds target since 7 2009 interest rates in a row. mortgage rates, ironically, could drift lower this year from where they are now, if the inflation expectations start to get better, because mortgage rates have been tracking kind of inflation expectations, but i saw a really strong jobless claims number again this morning. and all the data since the fed last met is still strong. the underlying u. s economy is strong. that's the problem, right? and that's what they're juggling. and that's also the problem. i think for consumers and trying to wrap your head around it is why is

everybody freaking out? but you tell me the economy is strong but inflation but rates and that's when we turn to christine romans make it all better fear and sometimes fear is stronger than fundamentals afterwards. all right, christy romans thank you very much. i well, joining us now. ken rogoff, professor of economics at public and public policy at harvard university. former i m f chief economist. we do have those competing f words, the fear that fundamentals. when you look at what happened yesterday, both the decision by the fed and then the reaction that we saw. where do you think this puts us this morning? well i think part of what the markets heard was not just that he hiked , but that they really debated it and probably are leaning towards not doing more for a while. so i think the markets weren't you know, is unhappy with that, as you might think. and if you look at longer term interest rates, they've really fallen quite a bit on the view that as christine said before the banking stress is doing some

of the fed's work for it. you just touched on this. there was what they did, which was raised right to, you know, a quarter percent, which was more or less expected. but then there is what they said. what about what they said? did you find the most interesting and most telling. well first, he said. we waffled over deciding to do it. so that's already telling you. it was a close call. and second, he emphasizes the point that credit conditions are likely to get tighter. and i think an important point is the really big drama was two weekends ago where they let a couple of big banks go under. medium sized banks go under, but they just cast this very wide natto for everything else that supported things, but then you know what's going to happen to lending. they protected the deposit. but what about if you have a mortgage? you want to get a car alone your business and you want to get a loan. and of course, that's going to get harder. the banks

no more regulations are coming. and they know people might take out some of their deposits and move them to larger banks. so that's part of the fallout. and what was interesting in terms of those comments right? was powell saying that the effects right of credit tightening are uncertain at this point, but to christine's point in some ways could that end up helping the situation. well i'd also underscore what christine said about. it's a very messy way to tighten things because it's not the same for everyone. it's different for different banks. this is not the way you want to tighten the landing. you want to do it, you know, in a market friendly way through the interest rates will the markets may not think it's friendly? but you know, compared to having rationing and such um, it's a very difficult to kinda me to read right now because we're still coming out of the pandemic . the labor market is surprisingly strong. it's hard

to understand why it's as good as it is. but inflation still entrenched, but we have a banking crisis. it's a very tricky point to play a couple of few months from now. everybody might say the fed was so stupid . they never should have raised rates a quarter. didn't they know the banking crisis working out worse? on the other hand, they might be saying, oh, they were so stupid. didn't they know inflation was getting out of control? so i think he did a really good job on sort of, you know, not saying too much, but there's a lot of volatility ahead. sounds like a fun job being fed share. whatever you do , there's a good chance you're wrong. listen, can i'm old enough to remember when 2% was the target? for inflation, and i know it's still is. they say that but it but it's 2% still a realistic target for us inflation. not this year, probably not next year, but i think what they're going to say is we're going to take our time. they let it get too high, but

they don't want to bring it down too fast, because what? we just saw the banking problems and we could well hit a recession. i think it would be a mistake to change their mind entirely. let's remember that alan greenspan, who once upon a time was considered the maestro at the fat he was federal reserve chair. you know from 1987 through maybe 2004 or five and he when he inherited 4.5% inflation when he came in, he took seven years to bring it down. so if they take a few years, it's okay. ken rogoff. great to speak with you. thank you so much. thank you. 17 year old suspected of opening fire at a colorado high school is found dead. what we have now learned about this teenager and an update on the conditions of two faculty members who were shot. the ceo of tiktok heading to capitol hill this morning. some lawmakers calling loudly to ban the wildly popular app. we'll

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this suspect. this is 17 year old austin lyle what denver public schools in denver police say is that he was to undergo a safety check every day at school . he had never produced a weapon until yesterday, when yesterday was so different. that's when he grabbed a firearm shot these two faculty members around 9 15 mountain time yesterday and ever since denver police had been on this massive manhunt for him, and it was late last night that his car was discovered. and then as you mentioned that his body was found not far from that vehicle, but the big question is moving forward are was this safety plan enough to mitigate any threat that this student made clearly presented? and then to how did he acquire a firearm? and then? finally what is denver public schools going to do? moving forward to try to keep students and faculty safe with denver public schools is prepared to do now is canceled class for the rest of the week. and then further put at least two armed police officers at

east high school as well as at least one armed police officer at the rest of the high schools throughout denver. however in 2020, the superintendent says that armed police officers were taken out of schools. and so he sent this letter to parents last night, effectively saying i know that this new policy is conflicting with the old policy, but he says he's willing to take that risk in the interest of public safety back to you. you wild thank you so much keep us posted on this. in less than an hour, the ceo of tiktok will face members of congress as some of them push to ban the app in the united states. it has about 150 million users here, so the concern is about tiktok's privacy and data security practices. lawmakers are expected to hit the ceo showed you with questions about the company's relationship with the china specifically with the chinese government with the chinese communist party. cnn's best your cave, which following these developments here this morning, so this testimony is

key. i think some of the questions will be interesting, too, because it does sound like in a lot of ways. there are a number of lawmakers who have their minds made up at this point. exactly ceo shoots. you will try to convince lawmakers that in fact, tiktok is not under the discretion of china and the chinese government. the problem, as you said, is that many lawmakers already have their minds made up about this, and many are supporting restrictive legislation against tiktok. they are also supporting a total ban on tiktok. this is expected to be an intense hearing likely ripe for some moments on tiktok. see. tiktok the wildly popular social media sensation has taken america by storm, with nearly half of all americans, creating uploading and watching videos, but now the company finds itself in the crosshairs of a political debate . hi everyone. it's show here and the ceo of tiktok ceo showed you announcing his arrival in dc

on tiktok as he gears up to face lawmakers thursday in a high stakes hearing amid threats from the white house to ban the app in the u. s. list. tiktok's chinese parent company, bytedance sells their steak. this is quite literally an existential issue for tiktok. this is life or death will be grilled on tiktok perceived threat to us national security. legislators have raised concerns over the chinese government's ability to use tiktok to spy on americans and collect their personal data. the app is already banned on federal devices, and nearly half of all states have banded on state owned devices. so many instances it just appears that china is not our friend. now they've got this enormously popular and powerful application that has basically captivated the minds of the next generation of americans. what are they doing with that information, but shoe has been insistent. china has no influence over the app, and it's

150 million u. s users. the chinese government has actually never asked us for us user data, and we have said this on the record. that even if we were asked for that we will not provide that. but top u. s intelligence officials believe otherwise. this is a tool that is ultimately within the control. of the chinese government and it to me it screams out with national security concerns, but there is no public evidence. this is happening. the government has not provided a smoking gun, but maybe the government doesn't need to provide a smoking gun. it's about that possibility. why the hysteria and the panic representative jamal bowman, hosting tiktok creators at the capital just hours before the hearing. it poses about the same threat. that companies like facebook and instagram and youtube and twitter polls. so let's not marginalize and target

tiktok. the trump administration tried and failed to ban tiktok in 2020. several courts ruled it violated the international emergency economic powers act, a law that biden administration is also up against. does it have any new legal authorities or powers to actually do it? no and so this is why we come back to. we're likely to get a restriction on tiktok based on what the executive branch can do right now. a complete ban, practically speaking, is unlikely at this point. and as a way to address some of these security concerns. tiktok announced that in june of 2022, they had moved all of us privacy data onto us servers. but in december of last year, several bite dance employees as part of an internal audit did access us journalists. emails covering tiktok now bite dancing. tiktok has said that those individuals

went too far. they were not advised to do that they were ultimately fired. and we can expect in just under an hour. the ceo to probably be asked about that, but he is going to say in prepared testimony that tiktok is unequivocally not an agent of china. there's going to be some fiery exchanges playing out over the next couple hours. no doubt. i mean, that is going to be an area. i am sure that members of congress want to ask about it happened once at least once. why won't it happen again? exactly. vanessa. appreciate it. thank thank you. also quick programming note for you. be sure to tune in to cnn primetime tonight when abby phillip tapes takes a look at tiktok future amid these calls to ban the app in the u. s. abbey host is time up for tiktok tonight, right here on cnn at nine pm still to come a deadly night in the kiev region as russian drone strikes target ukraine's capital. we're live. fast signs create custom

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keep an eye on that mean time to get you caught up on some of what we're following around the globe this morning, russia launching another round of deadly strikes across ukraine, killing at least nine people in the kiev region, another ends operation. this is, according to officials there. ukrainian general says russian forces have been battered so badly fighting for bach mood that ukrainian troops in kiev will be able to go on a counter offensive in that eastern city. what he says very soon. cnn correspondent david mckenzie joins us now live from odessa. david. what's the latest? john and erica. that's an interesting statement from that very senior official or general from the ukrainian military, saying that in mahmoud in the eastern part of this conflict after many, many months of fierce fighting. his estimation is that ukrainians are depleting the russian forces , mostly those vagner mercenary groups very severely and that it

may lead to depression, such that they can mount a counter offensive. i have to say it's impossible to very really verify that accurately bad there is a sense in the last few days. if ukrainians are making some ground, though they do only control a limited part of that heavily destroyed city that's been under contestation for many, many, many months, and you've had a very tragic raise in the death toll from those drone strikes in kiev. those shahid iranian drone striking civilian areas. and also in operation with a missile strike a dramatic and tragic strike on an apartment building a nine story building partially destroyed maracas. the it seems at this point, only one dead, many injured, though john and it comes as president zelensky has been on this tour over the last few days to frontline regions. he was in the east and then in the northeast, and now his close to where i am to the front

lines, inspecting damage from previous engagements and areas that ukraine took back months ago. you do get a sense that everyone's wondering and waiting to see if that counter effective does, in fact, begin soon, john erica yeah, exactly. david mckenzie appreciate the reporting this morning. thank you. 12,000 police officers set up across france this morning. 5000 of them are in paris alone as protesters filled the streets once again, even blocking access to charles de gaulle airport. you can see that here they have been have been demonstrating for days after the government pushed through a controversial plan, raising the retirement age from 62 to 64. melissa bell is live in paris for us those streets packed behind you, melissa, you know the airports. what's the latest? well this march. as you

can see, it's just getting underway and what the unions are hoping john and erica's in they're going to beat that record that they saw on in early march of more than a million people on the streets and they're going to get substantially more and you're quite right. but it isn't just about the number of people they're going to get on the streets of cities like paris today, but also about those blockages. what we've been seeing over the course of the last few days as a result of these many weeks of strikes not just garbage piled high here in paris, but people actually starting to have to line up outside gas stations because of those blockages were seeing at oil depots and oil refineries. and that's the point is that although this retirement from 60 to 64 is going to become lower, now just has one constitutional hurdle to go. they push it through parliament without a vote, which is finished to drive these people. pretty crazy that lost constitutional hurdle. beyond that, it will become law and the point of the unions and the people out protesting today is to try and cause as much trouble to the everyday life of france as they can. they believe

that they still can get the government to back down, said no way this will be known by the end of the year. this is the sort of arm wrestle. that's now set to go on. we expect for the next few days, certainly, and possibly if the unions get their way for the next few weeks, america yeah, it is really something and to see that it is still continuing. i think in many ways, not surprising that we still see it. they're still in the streets. melissa bell. appreciate it. thank you. well prince william, making an unannounced trip to poland. visiting british and polish troops are stationed near the ukrainian polish border. today, he laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier in warsaw and talked about the ties between the united kingdom in poland, cnn anchor and royal correspondent max foster in warsaw, max. what prompted this visit? well, it's interesting. it's quite a last minute decision. i was told he just wanted to come here and really look at what the polls continue to do to support the ukrainians, and it is his first visit

overseas in this new, you know, elevated title of prince of wales, and i think it's been interesting to see how he's using that he clearly sees himself now as some sort of global statesman like figure promoting western values because it's political issue he's walking into doesn't seem to be at all afraid of that met the troops down there in the southeast yesterday, thanking them for supporting ukrainian freedom, which he described as all of our freedoms. he then went to see the president today , president duda and thanked him and the polish people for supporting ukraine. so he's their work, presenting a sort of western democratic figure in many ways. he then came here to this food hall to meet ukrainians who had settled here. i went in afterwards, chat to a couple of them, and they got very powerful stories about how yes, there, okay, because they're here. they've been hugely grateful to the polls for supporting them, but it's really difficult every day, sometimes getting up. and trying to

survive here when they just want to be home and hearing all these stories about the tragedies back in ukraine, and he was quite affected by that as well. he was very keen, but we sort of talk about these stories. continue talking about how much poland is doing to support ukraine. they've got something like 1.5 million ukrainians here. who have been given full access to public services like schools and hospitals, and it's a huge pressure on poland. so that's what his visit was really about highlighting what poland is doing in relation to ukraine and supporting all of our values. max foster. great to see you there very interesting to see this visit taking place right now. alright jumping into action and off duty pilot onboard a southwest airlines flight steps up and one of the pilots in the cockpit had a medical emergency. okay we're gonna get their stares out here captain became incapacitated while en route. he's in the back of the

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president will be spending just a little over 24 hours on the ground there in ottawa, where he is expected to have several meetings, including that bilateral meeting with justin trudeau, the prime minister of canada, as well as giving an address to the canadian parliament and also attending a glitzy gala. allah dinner, but the white house says that this should be viewed as a meaningful trip one where they will be able to talk about much of the cooperation that has been conducted between the two countries. chief among that is really the u. s and canada's work together when it comes to combat in russia in its war against ukraine. they are also expected to talk about things like the north american supply chain. also climate change and also that critical defense cooperation between the two countries, including efforts to modernize no rat which really came into focus during the chinese spy balloon incident a bit earlier this year, but officials say that there will also be some thorny. issues that are on the agenda, and that

includes migration, trade issues and also the deteriorating situation down in haiti. now for president biden, he has had a long standing relationship with canadian prime minister justin trudeau. he has met with him several times on the sidelines of various summits, including down in mexico just in january during the north american leaders summit, but it is also noteworthy that president biden when he was vice president, his one of his final trips he made outside of the us was to canada. to where he extended attended a dinner there that was held in his honor. and during that meeting, president biden had said that in the coming years, the world would be looking to justin trudeau for leadership on a host of issues. of course, this was heading into the presidency of donald trump. but now, seven years later, president biden will be reuniting with the canadian prime minister on canadian soil , as the two of them are working together on a host of issues chief among them really ukraine. alright are lot will be watching this very closely. thank you so

much. so, uh, this sounds like something out of a movie. in fact, i think it was the plot. it may have been a passenger on a southwest flight, jumping into the cockpit after the captain suffered a medical emergency. passengers just happened to be a pilot from another airline. cnn aviation correspondent also a pilot, by the way, pete montena, joining us now, so this flight? fortunately i wanna landed safely. we've been talking all morning. it's totally fine when they say is there a doctor on board? but if i heard is there a pilot on board? that's when i would get worried. what happened? every general aviation pilots dream really is to get called up into the flight deck to fly a commercial airliner. i keep my pilot's license is on me all the time. john and erica just to be safe. you know, this is actually a pretty serious case, though, considering the fact that one of the pilots on board the southwest flight 60 13 from las vegas to columbus, ohio. fell ill, apparently and

southwest airlines says there was no pilot. at one point. there are two pilots typically so just one pilot left in the flight deck that is one a passenger who was on board the flight, also an airline pilot from a completely different airline was pressed into service and southwest says they came up into the flight deck and helped out this is the statement from southwest airlines, a credential pilot from another airline, who was onboard, entered the flight deck and assisted with radio. communication while our southwest pilot flew the aircraft, we greatly appreciate the support and assistance, so a pretty great coincidence here but also a pretty serious incident that the faa is now investigating. i want you to listen now to the air traffic control audio here. we're not totally sure if this is the southwest pilot speaking or the pilot from the other airline that came in to help, but you can hear just how serious this really was. okay we're going to get air stairs out here captain

became incapacitated while in route he's in the back of the aircraft. right now. it's a flight attendant. but we need to get him on an ambulance immediately. southwest not releasing the condition of the pilot who fell ill. also a mystery right now the name of the pilot who swooped in to help, in fact, no airline really claiming that pilot just yet. we're trying to find out more information about that. the faa investigating here the good news here is that a 7 37 like this really can be flown with one pilot required to have two pilots, although really, just the right place at the right time. john and erica. thank goodness pete montana. i'm glad you always carry those pilots licenses because i would feel very safe with you at the controls my friend only flying with pete mountain from now on, alright? yeah yeah, we'll save a lot of money for the company that way to thank you stay with us. we'll be right back. the hiring process used to be the death of me, but without word. with up work. the hiring process

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people. i think what they're planning not to do is what's the most notable right now. sarah scannell is standing outside the courthouse. carol, why don't you give us this information? what exactly we know right now. john and erica. so sources tell us that the manhattan grand jury that has been hearing the testimony about the hush money payments is meeting today, but they will not be hearing any testimony related to the investigation into former president trump. it is not uncommon for grand juries to hear multiple cases at a time. you remember they didn't even come in yesterday, even though that was one of their scheduled days. but you know they next will meet hearing the trump investigation on monday, and it's possible as we've been reporting that they could call another witness to go before the grand jury. they last grand jury last her testimony on monday when they heard from the witness from the trump side that was bob costello, michael cohen's former attorney, and at the time it was possible that prosecutors were going to call michael cohen as a rebuttal witness. at this point, it's not clear if cohen will get

called back or if it will be another witness that they decided to bring in. but for now , the activity at least for the trump investigation is a bit on pause. they will next year testimony in that case on monday , and the grand jury meeting today is not hearing testimony there. john erica. all right, just just to reiterate so people who have been following this closely understand specifically what we now believe to be the case. they will not hear testimony today on the trump case, and they've also precluded the possibility of a vote on the trump case. so nothing on the trump case today, as far as we understand, kara. that's right, john. so it means that the next time that this grand jury could potentially vote on whether to indict the former president would be on monday. now our sources tell us that they are weighing whether to bring an additional witness before the grand jury. how long that witness? if it does come to that would go and testify is really unknown. but it does mean that the next possible time for the grand jury to vote on a

potential indictment. if the days office moves forward would be on monday, john eric just really quickly carrots, they're still weighing that decision. they do have a number of other cases. as you pointed out, could they be discussing that today and we just don't know it? yeah i mean, absolutely. i mean, once they had this last witness from the trump side, you know it would make sense for them to review the case. for view the evidence, see how they want to go forward if they're happy with their presentation. so far, all sorts of factors will go into the discussions. this is obviously a historic decision unprecedented moment if they do decide to move forward with a charge against the former president. canal with that breaking news for us this morning care. appreciate it. thank you much more on that coming up also just a few minutes from now, lawmakers. we'll hear from the ceo of tiktok as some of them. some members of congress push to ban the app in the united states. we're gonna look at that live. all across thehe country. people

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