fake photos of donald trump being arrested have been flooding the internet this week . we, of course, normally focused on information, not misinformation, but we're going to show you these photos to highlight the danger of fake ai generated pictures. this has been misinformation on steroids. basically here is an example. this is an ai generated photo of donald trump. we have put the word fake over it, so it's clear that it's not real, and it can't be reproduced. but perhaps you can see just behind the k. there it is. donald trump running away from police. this was created by a man named eliot higgins. he's the founder of the investigative group belling cat after donald trump said, falsely that he'd be arrested on tuesday. um we'll show you more of these in a second, but let's bring in our panel we have juliette kayyem, cnn national security analyst in litchfield of wired jessica washington from the root and political commentator evan siegfried. guys great to have you i think these deep fakes are

terrifying. i think they're terrifying. i think that when i saw these, i know they're fake. they have fake written all over them. but still, i had a visceral reaction to seeing them. there's something about seeing a former president. let me put up another one. here's another one. this is a this one is about donald trump. it shows him in the middle of a police. fake donald trump, of course, the middle of a police from his falling to the ground and gideon just seeing a former president. in this situation. i sort of viscerally felt sick, and i know it's fake. well this is you know, this is the latest issue of mid journey which is one of these ai image generators. my journey five and it is just leaps and bounds better than the ones that we have been seeing before. and so even though there are lots of ways in which if you look closely, you can spot that these images are fake. it's still the you know the training on trump's face. the ai does that well enough and expressions in the positions that it crosses that uncanny valley for us, and it makes us think my god. maybe

this could be real, and it provokes that reaction that is meant to provoke. and here's one to prove your point of how if you look closely, you can tell that it's fake. let's look at this one. this is, um again fake donald trump surrounded by police and the only giveaway that something is awry. if you look closely as you can see that trump's white shirt sleeve is visible up to his shoulder on his right arm, despite him wearing a navy suit, so that's a giveaway. but again, i just think juliet did. deep fakes are the apocalypse. i mean, they this is we. we spend so much time trying to combat misinformation. and then here are visuals that can trick all of our brains. what are we supposed to do about this? one way is that we're gonna have to train ourselves to be more discerning about that visceral reaction. so um, how we'll learn over time? look at the ai. this whole system is relatively new. we should i don't count the human species out yet. don't worry, we still we still, we

still got game and so what? we're trying to what we should be figuring out is ways in which we can teach ourselves to discern that not have the visceral reaction. but you. you can't believe that that that the computers get to adapt all the time, and that we're just sort of stuck here, not being able to respond to it, so there's going to be ways in which we're going to also be able to learn. and eventually we'll see where it ends up. you seem skeptical for humankind, but i still have hope we have game. i think it's asking a lot of human beings. yes we can. we can you know we could talk about the ways in which you can spot the these images are fake. but the point is we are now having to. we're now in the stage where we're going to have to treat every single image we see online suspicious. that is a lot of work. there are things that i think companies could be doing. like the social media companies , for example, there are tools that they could choose to use to flag it in advance to people. this image is suspected of being fake. but right now, i don't see them signs of them doing that

good. i want to talk about those in a second. but jessica what's your? what's your thought about where we are with deep fix? as you know a reporter? how are we supposed to be combating misinformation when let's remember. i mean january, 6th was caused by misinformation by people believing bake news, basically, and so here we are. it's just another. i think level of that. i mean, we're going to have to work overtime. obviously social media is a good strategy to have them be partners in this, but this is terrifying. we obviously have a society that's really susceptible to misinformation. like you said january 6th. i mean q and on the kinds of theories that people are willing to believe, and buy into based off of really limited information. and then when you see these images, and you add that in, that's terrifying and it's journalists. it's our job to continue to hammer this. home that these aren't real that you have to be extra careful, but we don't have as much trust as we used to have. so i think this is a really dangerous place to be in optimistic or pessimistic. i'm optimistic inhumanity, but pessimistic and social media companies actually wanting to be

able to do this. let's have a there was a picture that trump posted on truth social tonight of him praying he's kneeling down. it's clearly a deep fake and everybody knows it, but you know, it's still drives. engagement i've sent made a deep fake the other week of mike tyson winning a spelling bee and i sent it to my friends and it went up like wildfire. people are going to be entertained, and social media companies have a want to get profit and engagement, not necessarily correcting misinformation. but what really worries me now it's not pictures. it's deepfake videos where they have voices. what if they have a deep fake of jay powell, saying the banking system is about to collapse? what happens on wall street? what happens to on main street? okay, look at svb. i mean, it's a you know, the rumor mill, the silicon valley bank. the rumor mill creates a perception that it's falling apart. everyone pulls their their pulls their money. uh and, uh, you know, you have had time. there's no reason that this bank has compared to any other bank should have had

the troubles it had. but it was a part of that was that inability to just sort of take a deep breath and think about what in fact is reality here? and what is just the panic or the or everything else out in social media already trivial to make an audio of fake audio of, say, jamie dimond, talking to one of his associates on the phone, saying, listen, jpmorgan's in much worse shape than we thought because of svb. and you know in the few minutes that it would take for that to be discovered as a fake once it would post it online. you could you could launch half of finance. imagine a state actor decides to weaponize that. i mean, we're are we just around the corner from that? and what is the answer? how are we supposed to be training ourselves to spot this? so let's let's know how we train ourselves because yes, i think that's we right now. humans are the first line of defense. so let's look at these pictures. you know, number one. if you look at these pictures of trump trump trump's face himself is pretty. it's pretty well done, because there are lots of images of trump on the internet . but if you look to the edges of the picture, look away from

the center. that's where you start to see. more of the face is distorted. you see a police officer who looks like he has rocks in his mouth instead of teeth. another thing to look for look at text. these images don't do text very well yet, so if you look at these guys badges, the policeman's badge is um, there's not real text there. it's gobbled. it doesn't even look like english. it these these images now doing things like limbs and hands much better, but they still make mistakes. like fingers were crooked in one of the pictures. i think trump has three legs. people are in distorted, funny positions. that's kind of a kind of a giveaway. um you know, and then another thing that's actually useful is if you see a sequence of images look for details that are inconsistent. so in some of these pictures try on all of them. trump is wearing a tie, and i think in each one that ties different color, that's interesting. but are we just around the corner from them? perfecting some of those quirks? i think it will get a lot better very fast, and we're going to see. you know, as you said, we're going to see video right now. fake video is pretty grainy. but you know, a year or two from now. it could be pretty convincing. now do you still

have faith in humanity have faith in humanity that we will adapt and as well we will learn to be more discerning. the market will change because of this. ah we will be able to discern between fakes that don't matter and fakes that do matter . so your thing about mike tyson sounds funny. i don't really it's not going to bring down humanity. so we do have historical comparison for this orson welles broadcast of war of the worlds, and that freaked people out, but we did adapt. thank you all very much. i don't know if i feel better or worse, but we might get back right now to our breaking news tonight, the pentagon says today u s contractor was killed in syria after a drone strike five u. s service members and an additional u. s contractor were wounded. in this strike, the united states is now taking action. cnn pentagon correspondent oren liebermann joins us on the phone. okay, so we're or and give us an update now. this all played out thursday afternoon syria time, which would be early thursday morning, when the pentagon says a drone one way, which is

another term for a suicide drone attack the us position near hasakah series and it's far northeast syria in that drone attack. as you pointed out, one u. s contractor was killed, according to the pentagon, five u. s. service members and another contractor were also wounded in that attack in terms of how they're doing at this point, the pentagon says two of those service members were treated on site. well three and the u. s contractor had to be evacuated the medical facilities in iraq for treatment, so those injuries it's possible, maybe substantial. at this point. the pentagon says the drone is of iranian origin, which which suggests it would likely be an iranian proxy or an iranian backed shia militia in the region, which carried out this sort of attack and we've seen that in the past. in response to the attack, the u. s carried out what it called a precision strike against iran's islamic revolutionary guard corps, or groups affiliated with the irgc in a short statement from defense secretary lloyd austin, he said the united states took proportionate and deliberate

action intended to limit the risk of escalation. and minimize casualties were still waiting for what's called a battle damage assessment. so to find out if there were those suspected, or perhaps launching this attack or affiliated with the attack killed in the us response that information we're still looking for at this point , but we've seen attacks on us forces, often in the form of rockets. perhaps a little less often in the form of drone, but this is one of the more dangerous, deadly tragic in terms of the results of the attack on u. s positions in syria. alison how many troops does the us have in syria? the us has about 900 troops in syria as part of the campaign to defeat isis in far north east syria. they work with kurdish partners as part of that campaign, and they come under attack, perhaps more often than we would think. in fact, earlier today, general eric carrillo, the commander of us central command, said since the beginning of 2021 so us forces

in the middle east have come under attack from iranian proxies and drones. 78 times if you do the math there that averages out to about one attack every 10 days or so, and that doesn't include the rocket attacks. he saw one of those just a couple of weeks ago, and in fact, the top u. s general, the chairman of the joint chiefs was in syria earlier this month visiting u. s troops and one of the questions on his mind was forced protection so you can see the pentagon still very much concerned about this with iranian proxies in the region who have fired and continue to fire on u. s forces there. okay, we're gonna come back to us with any developments, please. thank you for the reporting. alright. next we're gonna tell you what happened when the pilot of a southwest airlines flight was suddenly incapacitated and who came to the rescue. somewhere out there. i is that one in a million someone who thinks with their hands. and shape wrong materials into something

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needed medical attention. but an off duty pilot from another airline who was a passenger stepped up and went to the flight deck and then helped the copilot land the jet successfully. my panel is here waiting to talk about this, but let's first get more on the story from aviation correspondent pete mountain. seen on board the boeing 7 37 sounds like something out of a movie, an off duty pilot and the passenger cabin swooping into the flight deck after one of the original pilots fell ill became incapacitated while in route he's in the back of the aircraft right now with the flight attendants. southwest airlines says the incident started on flight 60 13 from las vegas to columbus, ohio. flight tracking data shows 27 minutes into the flight at 37,000 ft. the flights started to turn back for las vegas southwest says. that's when one of the pilots needed medical attention and a credential pilot from another airline, entered the flight deck and assisted with radio

communication. we need to get him on an ambulance immediately . the modern aircraft, a single pilot can fly it and handle communications. but it's a very heavy workload off duty. pilots being pressed into service has been the subject of fiction. by the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane? in fact what the pilot out just last year, a passenger without piloting experience landed a charter flight from the bahamas with help from air traffic controllers when the lone pilot became incapacitated. in 1989 and off duty united pilot volunteered to help wrestle united flight 2 32 into sioux city, iowa, when a major mechanical issue was more than the crew could handle. in this latest incident, the flight made a safe landing back in las vegas , but the helpful pilots identity remains a mystery that he was willing to step in and did a good job is really, uh

quite commendable. the nature of the southwest pilots medical issue is still not clear. experts tell us having two pilots his best, even though it's 7 37 can be flown by one pilot. there is a push to get rid of the second pilot. it would be a cost cutting move by airlines. the largest union of pilots puts it like this. the choice is between saving money, or like in this case saving lives. pete mountain, cnn. washington alright thanks to pete and we are back with the panel, i don't think they should get rid of that co pilot on flights. evan no, not one bit a anything, i'd add a third. look i'm not terrified. applying i'm terrified of the sudden cessation of flight and the airlines wanting to cut costs by removing the second pilot is one of the most boneheaded things you could ever have happened. health emergencies do happen to people. you can't predict it. like what happened with this pilot. and what would have happened if this pilot who were a passenger weren't there? we don't know. yeah i do not want

them to get rid of backup. backup backup backup pilots. i mean, if something redundancy exactly something like this were to happen, and i was in the air, i would just don't tell me. let me leave my headphones in. please don't let me is there a pilot on board or anyone? i'm not religious, but i'm praying, you know? no, i want multiple backup pilots. please do not save me any money or, more likely the airline any money by getting rid of the safety measures like an extra pilot, you know? oh, it's not just that we're covering these things more often. things are happening more often. and today, transportation secretary pete buddha judge talked about that, so it's not just that we're aware of it. he said that, for instance, there are there have been more near misses this year. let me play him for a second. we think that the uptick is partly related to the exceptionally fast surge in demand and the swift return to the skies faster than even the most optimistic scenarios that

we heard a couple of years ago. we need to make sure sure, of course, that as that system comes back to that high level of demand, there is no negative safety impact to that. he says. basically the near collisions are occurring at double the rate of last year, and we also have the shortage of pilots that the guidelines are still recovering from post pandemic when you know they retired. some people like some people off to save costs, so they're still scrambling to recruit more people so that there are enough so it's kind of not surprising that all of these, these incidents are stacking up on each other. the transportation system so we like, you know, i, um the near misses. we should not view as near misses, they are flashing red lights, telling us that the system is under stress, whether it's because of pilots or too many flights in the air or is even the transportation secretary has said. going back through your protocols. there's lots of these problems. do not fly a lot for two years, so we're sort of re gearing up. but that would mean of course, that

when we study security systems are safety systems that you want to avoid the single point of failure, right? if you got one pilot, you've got one single point of failure. and so it's just the most ridiculous thing to how much does it cost to have a second copilot on it to make any movement to not have a redundancy on the one thing thinking about it? it's hard to imagine that some of these planes are you know, some of them as we, as we've been reporting can be flown by themselves, but it is it is. it's the most absurd, um, action to take because the it's an on off switch if the plane doesn't fly very unlikely. people survive it. or that you would have the luck of having a passenger who has a pilot's license. so this but i, but the bigger issue is the system. the system is telling us something from these near misses, and it's good that we are now starting to pay attention. these are not like oh, thank goodness that didn't happen. this is the system is under stress.

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ask him to tell me a government secret, but i don't even get kicked out of the white house. exciting moment for tiktok influencer maddie westbrook. maddie and other tiktokers were invited to the white house last year. but now, just months later , the white house is threatening to ban tiktok. unless the apps chinese owners agreed to spin off their share of the platform . and maddie westbrook joins me now, maddie, great to have you here. what do you think of the idea that tiktok could be banned in the us? yeah i think it's a really quick turnaround from being so openly welcomed into the white house and having a great conversation with joe biden himself about the impact that social media can have and the positivity that they can spread across the entire nation , but it does feel a bit like whiplash, and it is kind of very back and forth on whether or not it's you know again. i'm not. i'm not any type of national security expert. i'm not any type of data privacy expert, but

at the end of the day, you know it connects us all and it can be used for such positive impact in such such positive waves and motions throughout, you know, political agendas as well as social issues. so it's a very, very interesting concept. to me. that is very very, uh, it's trying. but do you understand the downside of tiktok the dangerous side? you know, i've. been trying to educate myself a little bit. on the downside of that, and again, i know national security expert. i'm not aware of a lot of what what could be happening on the on the doubt of privacy side, but at the same time, you know, i think it's something that we have never really seen before. the massive expansion of social media throughout the pandemic. i think it was something that connected us all. and i do see like in a personal sense the privacy and security issues there. i mean, you could tag your location. that's a very scary thing. i want to be completely transparent thinking. that's something we should fix. i mean , you know, youth being able to go into the app and spread their

location is very scary thing. and that's just one example of privacy that is extremely concerning, but at the same time , you know, i think the positives outweigh the detriments in every single way. and does it give you pause that it's owned by? you know, a chinese by chinese owners. absolutely i mean, we don't know what it's used for. i mean, i don't know where my dad is going a lot of time, but at the same time, you know if that sold to an american company, i think there are massive strides that can be taken to ensure our privacy and data security. also one of the things that came up is they said that, um within. basically i don't know if it's seconds or minutes of using it. the algorithms, you know, funnel , sometimes dangerous content to as you know, young women get content on body image stuff for anorexia. there's content that people see that they didn't ask for about suicide. what about things like that? you know, i think it's very interesting. i was talking about this earlier with my friends today. that's a

threat on any platform. i think tiktok's algorithm is just extremely specific. just because of the way that we utilize that every single day. i mean, it's the first place i go to every single morning. it's the first place i go to before it better every single life and i think it's created such a personal profile on every single person that has interacted with the period and that algorithm it can be dangerous, but it's not to say that that algorithm that's created across all social media platforms can be dangerous on every single one. i think it's a very interesting target that tiktok itself rather than you know. let's say youtube instagram snapchat. those algorithms can also be extremely specific and tiktok itself. i think it's just used as like the prime example rather than speaking on the algorithms as an entire whole. i watched the social project on on netflix about how that algorithm can be , you know, created to work kind of against mental health, and i would agree in some sense, but at the same time, it's a conversation that needs to be held across all platforms that just takes off when you say it's

the first thing you check in the morning, and then before you go to bed, what do you what are you looking for? what do you see first thing in the morning? i think at this point as well full transparency, it's a habit. it's not something i'm particularly looking for. i think i'm looking for something new every single day. i'm looking for something exciting. i'm looking for something i've never seen before. and you know, i don't think our brains are particularly programmed to wake up and watch, you know, happy public video. and then, like you said, a video on anorexia and then maybe a video on suicide. i don't think our brains are programmed to intake that information as quickly as we do and take it on a daily basis. um but i think our brains have been programs, too. require that natural dopamine hit every single day. i it doesn't even feel like uh, i thought or choices just there, and that's something that it's obviously my job. so it's also a little bit, you know, back and forth. it's like alright. what can i work with today? what's trending right now that i have to work with as like a job, i also view it as like. all right, let's get started. let's log into my work

email and see what's up. it's really interesting. so if you could talk to president biden right now, what would you say? well, as he considers banning it. right i think i would remind him of the positive impact that we came in. as a group i went in with, i think around eight or nine amazing other creators and we went in and we promoted the vaccine. also something i'm very, very positively, you know, supporting throughout time, and i was a part of the made to save vaccine campaign that generated over 90 million views, so i would just kind of reiterate the positive impact that it can have, because he's obviously quite aware of the positive social impact and political impact that the tiktok can have with its greater period. us in for a very specific reason. and i think being utilized a little bit. as like a positive change. i think he should be reminded of that. many westbrook really great to talk to you tonight. thanks so much for giving us your perspective really interesting. absolutely thank you so much for having me panel is back now. that was helpful. that was really helpful because i think that you know tiktok to so many of us, um, in a certain

generation. since seems like what's the point, but maddie spelled it out pretty well. but yet as a national security expert, what do you think so? i was hoping that there would be less drastic solutions to this is clear that the biden white house wanted that they've been trying to work through some rules and regulations about the cloud about access about where data is, um, stored, but the politics of this are just um, not really about tiktok anymore . they are about china and technology and then banning some of our technology and it's in so in some ways, it's sort of not about the content. it's about a company that has access to 100 million americans and their data . those americans know it. we're not surprised. we know. i mean by now we know who owns tiktok.

and so that's the i think i think whatever my opinion is, i think this is where it's heading , and it's important for people to remember the tremendous influence people like maddie did have on something like the vaccine. i mean, in other words, that we all talk about fauci. she was irrelevant to a lot of people who were looking on tiktok looking to the maddie's and others of the world and saying okay, now, you know that's that's the person i'm gonna follow. and i think maddie is also absolutely right. that um, a lot of the issues that are being raised about tiktok at the same for any other platform there. it's not that there are not legitimate questions about how tiktok users data. it's certainly true, it seems according to reporting that its stuff stuff in china by dance can have some access to the tiktok data. but, you know, i would say two things number one. the same issues of potentially harmful content, political manipulation, mental health and

data, privacy or data, lack of privacy in general, happening across all of the platforms. chinese ownership at a new level , it adds a little bit of a new level, but not as much as i think people are making out because number go ahead. i have. all right. well, let me finish in there. i think first of all if china wants to get data on american citizens, there are lots of ways that can get it other than tiktok. there are lots of apps that are putting out data that can be freely bought and sold. the third party data brokers will sell that data. anybody who wants it. there are also ways that apps even if tiktok, the abbot software band, there are lots of apps that send data to tiktok for purposes of online advertising and things like that. so i think simply banning the app would not really solve these. these concerns about china having access to data. first of all we saw today on capitol hill, tiktok. ceo go and give a master class and what not to do in front of congress, but he flubbed it left and right. one of the things he kept on pushing was so we're a private company in china. there's no

such thing as a private company. chinese government can have access to it, particularly through their intelligence services at any point. and what we also saw today was how close they are to china. they were repeatedly asked. can you say that the weaker genocide is happening? and they say, oh, i'm not an expert hemmed and hard, and they then tried to compare themselves to other platforms like facebook, instagram and twitter. look yuan musk is a lot of things, but the last time i checked, he has not been participating in any sort of concentration cancer genocide of another group, and lastly, the thing that really scared me today was the answer. when the ceo was asked, have you used tiktok to spy on americans? you know what he said? i wouldn't call it spying. and what would facebook call it spying? what they do. it's probably doesn't have any direct relationship with the chinese intelligence services. one point i would make is that facebook did have does have connections to genocide that occurred. i mean, and also january 6th. we know that was fomented on facebook. so there's

a tons of dangerous things that have happened on social media platforms that exists in the united states that are owned by us companies. so it does seem like part of what's happening here is a fear over china that is very political and not necessarily. i'm not saying entire fairly separate from some real concerns, but not necessarily grounded in this concerns grounded maybe more so and kind of politics and politicking. i also grew up with instagram and facebook, and i can say those were very harmful to mental health. i mean to my mental health to a lot of people's mental health. i think internal studies of instagram have shown that one in three teenage girls who went on instagram had worse body images . it's been shown to increase depression, anxiety. all these different mental health issues. your experience. i mean, my experience was, it's a lot to try and keep up with your peers on facebook on instagram to have to post photos from parties or look a certain way or feel a certain way, and i actually think with tiktok. there's less of that pressure. it does feel a lot more real than some of the platforms that i grew up with as a teenager. so i do see something with tiktok. that is

slightly different than maybe other people see who didn't grow up with instagram and facebook, but we have to also acknowledge there's no way that they can sell it off. the chinese government has veto power over it is happening. i mean, i think whether the whether the specific whether it should happen because we have all these other variables to consider whether it's just like other social media. it's happening. the politics have now aligned that for a variety of reasons, including let's just be clear like other social media companies lobbying for tiktok to be banned in the united states because of the competition. we it is it is going to happen, and so we have to prepare for okay, well, what other platforms me? t shirt is going to be banned. politics are uh, foreign policy . diplomatic decisions are often made based on a threat. and a lot of other stuff, and that and for whatever reason, the bullseye has landed on tiktok of all the issues that we have with china and my up late at night about tiktok. no i am not

playing time and national security person. i do not worry a lot about tiktok. but for you know, for a variety of reasons, the democrats and republicans and the white house has now conceded. after two years of, i think trying to keep this at bay is at least willing to now more consider, uh, potential ban and congress most recently gave them the authority to do it, so it just seems like you know no one's going to stop this train. that's yes, it felt like the hearings today. we're kind of a show trial of the scene. yeah basically preparing the public. there wasn't like there. yeah, there was no like, oh, i'm learning something new. it was it was. this is this is my moment to get the clip. okay everyone stay with me if you would. on a lighter note, hollywood besties, ben affleck and matt damon shared a lot more than an oscar. we'll explain. when you're the leader, disaster cleanup and restoration. how do you make like it never even happened. serve pro like it

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couples. of course, i mean, best friends, but how close are they ? really well, it turns out that they shared a bank account at the beginning of their careers. so used to having a shared bank account from high school that like i remember shared bank account in high school. yeah, we had a big banks account that we shared which we used the checkbook. i found the check. did you really unusual, but it was also like we needed the money for auditions for trips to new york. so that's what the money was for. it was like you were allowed to go to new york with the money. you could go to the camera. we were allowed to take out 10 bucks and get quarters and go to 1000 and one and play video games. that was another use of the money. we were allowed. and, uh and eventually, you know, we were allowed to try to buy beer like you know, never worked, but that's how we went broke with that, okay? i'm back with my panel. jessica that's interesting. i've never actually never heard of best friends sharing a bank account. i haven't either, but i kind of think it's great. i think a lot of people that i'm talking to

now they're talking about the ways in which you know, community looks different. family looks different. and why should people in romantic relationships be the only one to benefit from having a dual income? you know, people are buying homes with other single mothers together with their best friends. i see no problem with this. would you do it? i don't think my best friend would do it with me because you would use all the money for beer or what? or maybe sushi out $20 cocktails in the york i don't know that can drain a bank account. yes, evan has a very risky thing that can ruin a friendship actually, because clearly matt damon and affleck had ground rules and they thought it out, but i don't think a lot of people will think it through. and they'll just say, okay, let's just throw our money into this account, and we can use it for this. and then there's going to be some day where they say, why are you using more of the money than i am? where's the fairness? or why are you spending it on this? and it's gonna be the same old arguments. so why have some sort

of trap where your friendship can be ruined where you can actually just think it out and say, hey, let's go take a trip together. we each need to save up x amount of money or or you could treat it as a learning experience. this is a great way to learn about how to have accountability and manager friendship world together. sure i never ever said the banking with anyone not even with my first boyfriend, but, you know, i think this you know, maybe this is a thing that people need to learn to do and it's communication style. communication teaching tool. i think it's a good idea doesn't have a big downside, though, which is squander all your money . well that is what you learn to communicate about. julia love the reference to bay bank, which was like this old school bank, which is now defunct, reminded me of when i was in college, but , um, i guess my only addition is that i think it shows why they are both so successful that at that age they were thinking about. pulled money to go to rehearsals. i mean, at 16, 17. and what were you know? i don't even think i had a bank account at that age. so to me, it was

they were pretty smart, pretty young. this is no fluke. how they're sustaining power over the years. yes and it's also fun to remember that they were broke. yeah best friends and you know they had this hard, bad, hardscrabble past, but they certainly didn't. it wasn't handed to them. it's fun to hear about that. this would my friends would have gotten such a raw end of the deal if i had shared a banking account with them. i mean, i just i was always broke and i would have and i needed you know, gas, money and money for food, and i would have just helped myself. thank goodness they didn't let me have part of their bank account. i remember going to my back in college and being upset that the hmm. wouldn't give me less than $5. that was the lowest you could take out and i was like, i'm gonna squander that. i need just $1 from my bank. yeah. so now we have venmo. it makes it way too easy. to pass around money around money. yeah. dangerous yes. all right. so uh, good for those guys. all right, we will be right back. yeah. wait. have you

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