the border as migrants continue to flow through mexico trying to reach the u. s. you have migrants that are just desperate and frustrated. so that skepticism and distrust between migrants there in juarez and mexican immigration officials continues to build today. erin mexican officials say that most of the victims and survivors were from venezuela and central america, guatemala. guatemalan officials say that 28 of the 40 who died were guatemalan nationals, aaron all right. thank you very much, ed lavandera. and thanks so much to all of you for joining us. you can watch the show anytime, anywhere. you just have to go to cnn go. in the meantime, though, it is time now for a c 3 60 with anderson. good evening tonight. newly released body camera video from the police officers who confronted and killed a mass shooter, the covenant school in nashville. we're going to show it to you. but first we want to

tell you what we know about those who were murdered about their lives, not just how their lives ended. three adults and three children at the school were killed yesterday. mike hill was the school custodian. students called him big mike. he loved the kids at the school and his job and he loved his own kids so much. there were seven of them in his 14 grandchildren as well. love to spend time with them and to cook. his family says he was just 61 years old. cynthia peak also was 61. she was a substitute teacher at the school family friend tells local station wsmv she lived most of her life in alabama recently moved to nashville with her husband. she had three children of her own. katherine coons was head of the school. she was 60, a former student with learning disabilities, said that ms coons never gave up on him telling w s m v that there are too many educators who do the world, he said, needs more people like her. how the scruggs dad was the pastor of covenant presbyterian church, which runs the school. halle was in the third grade just nine years old. evelyn dick

houses family said she was a shining light. our hearts are completely broken. we cannot believe this has happened, they said in a statement today. evelyn to was just nine. we don't have photos of william kinney, also nine years old family friends said that he loved his sisters adored his parents and grandparents was unfailingly kind and gentle and quick to laugh. sweet will, as she called him knew no strangers, she said. but a stranger did come into his school yesterday and killed sweet will evelyn and halle, mike, cynthia and catherine what we're about to show you was released by the police today, and it shows you how the killer was stopped. videos from two officers, which we have synchronized to the clock. so you can see from each viewpoint what actually happened as it happened. it's hard to watch. there's no doubt about it, but you won't see any bloodshed. you won't see any actual violence. you will hear gunfire, however. it's a little more than three minutes, but it shows you what police are up against in a situation like this. it shows you the reality of what's

happening far too often in this country. the video starts with one officer's camera and is later joined in sync with the second officers. that is going to be first four million lobby. what i'm making injury on the front side. at tuesday's that we don't know where they are. okay? yes, ma'am. yeah. yeah window someone they're upstairs. hey. jimmy give me three. let's get three. down the hall. please tell us

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go! shots fired. shots fired, shots fired moving. right right, right. right? some professional perspective, now from cnn senior law enforcement analyst and former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe injury. it's really stunning to see that you get i mean, just first of all the coordination that they showed and when those shots when they heard shots after you know, trying to clear rooms there was no the thing that stood out to me is there was no pause from them of stopping in the hallway

seeking cover. they, in fact, accelerated toward the gunfire. you know, anderson law enforcement in this country takes a lot of criticism, and we're not perfect. get something's wrong, but when you see the heart pounding intensity of what those men the way they executed their responsibilities and lived up to the earth that they swore under unbelievable danger and pressure. it's remarkable and um, yeah, they what you see, there is a very highly trained well coordinated response. you see them, shouting at each other and touching each other on the shoulder, and they're not yelling for no reason they're communicating in an incredibly loud and chaotic environment. you know, when you're the first person in that of that group of a few officers, you cannot take your eyes off of what you're looking at looking for that threat so you can't turn around to see if your cover person is still behind you or if you left them. so you wait for

that tap on the shoulder. you wait for them to say, move, move forward push, and that's all what you see happening? they're clearing room after room quickly . they're not slowing down. and as soon as they hear those gunshots go, they run to it, and that's what makes the difference and, you know, limiting the loss of life. so yeah, it's a remarkable video. it's hard to watch. incredibly disturbing. it's also interesting to me that you know the officer whose body camera we see first, who arrives and really gets out of the vehicle. gets his long gone here is a little bit from one of the school administrators or a teacher about the locations of things and what may be happening and then calls out. i need three. i assume that means i need three other people with me because it looked like there were at least two other police cars there at the time. i'm not sure how many officers had already been there, but he's basically getting a kind of a stack together. getting a group together to actually move in. that is standard procedure now. that's exactly right. you know, he gets out of his car. he

doesn't know how many people are in there. how many are not? he just knows he's got a long gun. he's got to get in there. he heads for the door, where he sees another officer or somebody directing him towards that door. and he just you know you. ideally you want to go in as 234 people, and so he calls out what he needs and he either gets presumably he gets that support . if not, he's going in anyway, because he's here. he hears that person from the school. tell them that you know, there are shots being fired. um so it's a very quick rally and they get inside and they find the threat. there's no there's no standing around the hallway, talking about it, asking for extra equipment or more people. they got to get the job done. officer engelbart who did all that that that main body camera video we saw? it was also interesting, the one of the person from the school said. you know the it's down for the end of the whole shot. there were shots. um there , you know, there may be people there and then she also talked about people upstairs. that message clearly got through

again to officers on the scene because when the second body camera comes in, it appears that that officer and maybe other officers are moving up to that second floor location again. i'm surmising here, but that's what it appears. i assume that information from the school administrator was got out, which is again something that in the yuval the communications seemed to be a real issue. that's absolutely right. you know, it's it was remarkable to me that when she first addresses him on the sidewalk there, his response is, yes, ma'am, and he, he replies in a very under control , kind of composed way courteous way. he knows where he's going. he knows what he's about to face. but this is somebody's not panicking. he is dedicated and focused on what he has to do. she also gives him some very important information about where the children are, she says . most of the children have been evacuated or on walk down and he needs to know that as he goes inside so he can figure out which rooms need to be searched where kids need to be protected

and which ones he can. he can potentially go cast or spend less time on. it's also interesting because people never know i mean even officers who have been on the job for a long time. it's very often times an officer doesn't take his gun out or actually fire a shot on the police force for years, if at all in in an actual environment like this, um, you never know how you're actually going to respond, whether it's a combat zone or for police. and whether you're going to become hyper focused and laser focused and calm or whether you're gonna freak out clearly again, just from what he said to the school administrator, that officer seemed extraordinarily focused on the task at hand. he does. and you know, i don't know what his personal experience has been. maybe he's been in situations like this or combat before, but maybe it's just the result of incredibly dedicated training. you know you don't you don't know until you're in that moment in a crisis situation, but the best you can do is

prepare and train and train you see when he reaches into the back of the car. he knows exactly where he's going. the gun is in the bag. it's ready. he doesn't have to reassemble things. reload magazines. that officer is prepared when he gets on the scene, and that shows you he's somebody who is thought through what he's going to need . he gets in before he gets in the car to leave on his shift. he's got his. he knows where his gear is in the back. he knows how to get to it quickly. that's how you save lives. andrew mccabe, i appreciate it. thank you. president biden today renewed his call for lawmakers to pass a ban on so called salt weapons just short of 19 years since the 1994 version expired and wasn't renewed. he also signaled how constrained he says he is the chief executive to do more, telling reporters quote. i can't do anything except pleaded with the congress to act reasonably. as for what congress will do so far, democrats have yet to decide how to proceed or if to proceed and fair to say many, if not, most. republicans aren't willing to proceed at all in the house, at least on any gun restrictions. there's what some of them said or flat out, refused to say when asked by reporters, including our men,

manu raju. what happened in nashville's honestly incredible seriously responsible house will speak brother. at all. and i think with respect any let discussion of legislation. it's premature. you seem to indicate there was nothing more congress can do in terms of, you know, we want to. you want to legislate evil? it's just not going to happen. i we need real revival in this country. why does the president have a corvette in his garage? that will do 115 miles an hour, not 55. because its freedom i believe in the second amendment, and, uh we shouldn't you know you shouldn't penalize law abiding american citizens before they even know the facts . the first thing they talk about is taking guns away from law abiding citizens. people are allowed to possess firearm. troops need is in the eye of the beholder. i don't question why you need a blue suit, but you got one should be done to

protect people like your little girlfriend being safe at school. well, we homeschoolers. that is tennessee congressman tim burchett, who also said he does not see quote any real role for congress. in the wake of yesterday slaughter this morning, senate chaplain barry black argued there certainly is. lord. when babies. die at a church school. it is time for us to move beyond. thoughts. and prayers. remind our lawmakers. of the words of the british statesman, edmund burke. all that is necessary. for evil. to triumph. is for good people. to do nothing. and chaplain barry black joins us now chaplain

appreciate you being with us. is evil triumph. triumphing are good men doing nothing. well, i think indeed. um. there is a triumph of evil when six people die in such a horrific way. and, of course, we've had to face. challenges like this repeatedly. there is almost a danger of de sensitization. i think that there are people who are doing something but that we can do more. and i believe that. when you are faced with a challenge, you have to expect setbacks and failures, but you persevere. until you find better ways of solving the problem. um, i remember. when i was very young,

probably pre team. um jfk talked about putting a person on the moon and bringing that person back. to earth by the end of the decade, and i thought he must have inhaled something to make that kind of optimistic. uh to embrace that kind of optimistic challenge, but we have setbacks and challenges. they managed to accomplish that goal time and time again. when americans have made up their minds. we're going to tackle this problem and solve it very have eventually done so . and so that is what i am challenging us to do one of the purposes of government. is to hold evil in check. so the idea

that there is nothing that that government can do is not true of the facts about history in your prayer. sorry in your prayer. you also said, deliver our senators from the paralysis of an analysis that waits for the miraculous. talk about that a little bit. you also said it's time to move beyond thoughts and purge. what does that look like moving beyond thoughts and prayers? i think moving beyond thoughts, uh, and prayers. it means. doing something praying is doing something. but it is a theory. a well, uh, the first song verse three talking about the happy believers says whatever he or she. uh does will prosper. god prospers what we do , and so we begin to. we have to begin to try some things that

may be counterintuitive. it took thomas edison thousands of attempts before he found the filament for the incandescent light bulb. but he thought that these were steps toward accomplishing that goal, and eventually he did. so i am talking about developing a proclivity for stuff substantive action. and not just waiting for something beatific to occur because of the movement of the transcendent jiaping black. i appreciate your time time. thank you. thank you coming up next, the a r 15 type rifle that this killer and so many others have carried. why it's so deadly. and what if anything, might be done to keep it out of the wrong hands later? would, a judge told former vice president mike pence about what he'll have to tell grand jurors and why his former

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cnn's josh campbell. they're known as assault style weapons, their deadly firepower seen yet again when a shooter opened fire on an elementary school in nashville, tennessee. it's just the latest from eovaldi, tulsa and el paso, parkland, san bernardino and sandy hook. the high powered assault rifle has been the weapon of choice for many of the killers hot. angeles police department demonstrates an ar style semiautomatic rifle for us on the department's gun range. you have a 16 inch to 20 inch barrel. you have a stock that is shouldered. you're going to be accurate at farther distances, as opposed to a pistol, not to mention like some other weapons. it can fire a bullet with enough power to peer soft body armor, something sergeant james webb or even knows firsthand. it's definitely an automatic weapon, assault weapons fire during the now infamous 1997 north hollywood shootout where two bank robbers

wearing body armor fired on police for nearly an hour, injuring eight people in 12 officers, including sergeant deborah van, you're being hit with pieces of the vehicles were hiding behind asphalt radiator fluid. felt like we're being stunned by bees shooting changed policy, prompting the lapd and other departments to upgrade their own weaponry to counter the increasingly powerful guns used by assailants. that firepower from weapons is studied inside a ballistics lab at wayne state university, where researchers simulate a bullet's impact on the human body block of 20% gelatin, and it's meant to represent the human tissues so soft tissues. cynthia burst team fires a handgun round at 1000 ft per second into the gelatin block for this particular round, you'll see the bullet coming on this side. you see this temporary cavity here happening. so that expansion is what happens in the body, and then it collapses down. so that's where your damage comes in as a team fires around from an assault rifle, we see a lot

more disruption. this round actually breaks apart. it doesn't exit, so it's about 3000 ft per second, and all of that energy goes into the soft tissue . um, we have a piece of plastic here to reflect to do the videos , and it actually lifted the plastic up off the table with the energy aftermath. photo of the handgun round shows a relatively straight line. and through the tissue exiting the other side. but not so with around from an ar 15. it basically goes into the body and creates an explosion inside the body trauma. surgeons say the wound from an assault rifle can be catastrophic, and the worst part is in a child. all the vital organs are that much closer together. each of those bullets causes you know, irreversible damage. baldy texas families were asked for dna swabs to help the authorities identify their children as a mom. it really affects me, right? because i cannot imagine having a child endure this. and with high capacity magazines, suspects can shoot for much

longer. now, the discussion about high capacity magazines largely centers on reducing the amount of time that a suspect can fire without having to reload. as a former fbi agent. we were trained to quickly get your weapon reloaded and backup on target. but for a suspect, for example, who isn't trained, you can see using this training weapon that is a process that involves removing the empty magazine obtaining a fresh round of ammunition, loading it into the weapon charging the weapon getting it back. up on target. those are all precious seconds where victims can be fleeing the gun can jam or the suspect could be engaged by law enforcement or bystanders. knowing the damage that sustained firepower can do . researchers hope their critical findings lead to awareness regardless of where one comes down on the gun control debate. it's indisputable that the assault weapon causes significant damage inside the body. definitely but this is the reality. this is what's happening. campbell, cnn, los angeles. this is what is happening time and time again,

joining us two cnn, senior political commentators from illinois republican congressman adam kinzinger and david axelrod , former senior adviser to president obama, david i mean, i don't know how many times you and i have had this discussion. is there any chance of anything actually getting done in congress? you know, i'm eager to hear from adam on this, but i'm very, very doubtful. last year, we pass a relatively modest gun control or gun safety law out of the united states congress after you've aldi and, uh and still republicans in the house, led by kevin mccarthy. uh, moved against it. there were 14. republicans who are willing to stand up. adam kinzinger was one of them. but now kevin mccarthy is the speaker of the house, and i see no evidence in his reaction to this latest tragedy that he has changed his view on this issue at all, congressman. as david said, you were one of 14 house republicans who voted for the new gun safety

legislation last june. you also remember the military support of the second amendment. are i mean, a or 15 aren't going away? it seems senator murphy last night mentioned the idea of, you know, maybe someday mandating training before somebody could get one is anything possible to move on this? yeah i mean, i think david's right. probably not right now, and i can tell you the inside of what a conference the republican conferences right what it's like right now because i sat through that for 12 years, which is every time there's a mass shooting. you basically are sitting around and you can't wait until the next story overtakes this one. and that's why you're going to stay quiet. you're not getting comments from these members. look i think what we have to do is you know there are folks that probably very rightfully in their mind advocate for a complete ban of a r s. and there are some that won't even address the issue. there is middle ground here. look this is an exception. but a lot of these school shootings that have our mass shootings are people under the age of 21. you have to be 21 in america to buy a handgun. in many states, you only have to be 18 to buy an a

r. well that's one thing and why is it that you have to be licensed to drive a car in this country and every day. but yeah, there are states now that are moving to say you don't even have to have a license to conceal carry i conceal carry i have a license to conceal carry . and why don't we say that with a r s, at least in the near term? maybe you have to have a license to have one of those to look if you are somebody that's sitting around saying, look, you know, i'm not gonna go do a mass shooting with my a r, which is 99.99 repeating percent of those gun owners. then i don't think you'd be upset about going and getting a license to own one. these are intermediary steps, but everybody, particularly my party right now. the republicans are too scared to talk about this. they couldn't even raise the age of 21. it does seem also , you know, congressman, if you're you know, at a gun range, you want people who are also at a gun range who have training who know what they're doing and are not going to shoot somebody. ah you know, taking a the there a are out of the case. it's in

the other is multiple points to this so number 11 of the better things about getting licensed to conceal carry is you learn the laws in the states, for instance , illinois has a much different standard for when you can shoot somebody in your home, then say texas does right. so you get to learn that stuff. the other thing is people assume i think a lot that police officer with a handgun against an assailant with an a r isn't even match. it is the furthest thing from an even match. i've shot a rs. i've shot them both in the military and the civilian sector. they are much more accurate. they have much better ability to hit somebody at a distance than a pistol does so this idea that it's the same thing? it's not recognize that and that's what i think is a country and a step is to say, maybe you have to go through some training to understand what these things can really do. david i mean, there is a line for democrats and thinking well, this doesn't necessarily drive people to the polls. it's not the top issue that people say they vote on or hasn't been traditionally, um

and there's concern about driving voters, i guess to republicans among some democrats . yeah i mean, i think that's been true. historically it may still be true today. i think if there were a chance to pass some really significant legislation that you'd see the vast majority of democrats do it, but i think that there is a reluctance to push it. if at the end of the day, there are those who are going to have to walk the plank as it were to vote for something that has an uncertain future. so um, you know, i mean, i don't i think people should stand up on this issue, and i appreciate everything that adam is saying i still don't understand exactly why weapons that he uses in war. are ones that people should casually have on their own, and they have increased exponentially since the ban on assault weapons went out in 2004 to the point where we have 20 million of them are so we're 20 million people own them. uh and , uh, you know, they even if we

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new. yes i love it. um wow, now four imprint .com imprint for certain hell, solomon in new york. and this is cnn. sources tell cnn that the manhattan grand jury investigating the former president's role in an alleged hush money scheme involving an adult film star will not hear the case again this week. source also tells cnn the grand jury adjourned monday without taking a vote on whether to indict. that means no answer

this week on whether there will be an indictment or not. in a separate investigation, with potentially more serious consequences for the former president, multiple sources tell cnn the special counsel leading the federal probe into his actions surrounding january, 6th scored a big legal victory involving testimony from mike pence, who tells newsmax he is now evaluating the court's decision that he has to testify or senior justice correspondent impress. joins us. so does cnn legal sort of cnn legal analyst elliot williams, a former federal prosecutor and deputy assistant attorney general, so i've been talking more about what this judge is what he ruled, and if he's given the former vice president alleyway well, anderson. the important thing from this judge is that he's basically saying that there's plenty that mike pence can talk about with prosecutors . as part of this investigation , the general six investigation , judge james boasberg said that while mike pence is does have the protection of the speech or debate clause under the constitution as the senate president, he was serving as

senate president. during part of this, he does have to answer questions, however, for everything leading up to january 6th when he wasn't acting in that capacity, and so, so that means that there's a lot of questions that the vice president the former vice president is going to be facing . when he goes before the grand jury. now it is important to note that there are limitations right that the justice department is going to have to observe. it is not clear, though anderson when the former vice president goes before the grand jury, where that line will be, maybe that the judge will have to say that question is allowed . that question is not allowed to keep in mind. he was at the center of all of this right. he was the one that was facing the pressure campaign by the former president and his allies that he had the power, they said to not certified the election of joe biden as president. and so those are the questions that really, i think the prosecutors want to get at elliot, do you? do you know where that line is? because

that's that's confusing, then. i mean, if he does have to testify about conversations he had with the former president. but maybe there's some things he doesn't have to say. do you know where that line is? no anderson. there's a lot of gray area here between mike pence, the vice president of the united states, who was also sort of mike pence, the candidate for office, and mike pence. the guy who's boss might be investigated by the justice department. where do you slice up where those different roles lie and exercise and take out mike pence? the congressional officer who was presiding over the senate now anything he did in his capacity as the person and overseeing the senate as president of the senate as the constitution. well, that's all protected. but where does everything else go and look looking? i mean, we haven't seen this opinion yet. it's all under seal. but there's something for everybody to appeal on this. if mike pence wish to appeal the fact that he has to testify at all, he would have a perfect basis for doing so. and the justice department could actually say, you know, your honor, this is actually quite vague and because of all

the gray areas and sort of trying to determine where exactly or how much wiggle room the device former vice president has is actually quite difficult , and we really need need clarity on this. what specific information about january 6th that investigators would like to get out of the former vice president. sure if the ruling stands up and he ends up complying, absolutely, and it's important anderson to get out of the frame of mike pence and donald trump were bickering and her mad at each other sort of the palace intrigue stuff. and where is there legally operative information that could come from mike pence number one. what evidence or information? did he hear about the president, knowing he was going to obstruct the actions of congress? which is itself a federal offense was the president. did the president make any threats to mike pence? was he aware of violence on the day of january? 6th was he aware of any other crimes that may have transpired? those are all legally relevant questions to charges that could either come to the president or other people around him. so it's yes, it's interesting as a human matter, but there's actually some law

there and mike pence is a very central figure who might have heard important information. clear what phase this investigation january. 6th investigation is in at this point. well look, i mean, i think we often use the word accelerating, but really, anderson. i mean, we're getting the picture. certainly with all of the legal activity you're seeing the prosecutors are giving deadlines very tight deadlines for people to come in to the grand jury. people who are asking for more time they don't get it. they're also going to the appeals court in very, very, very accelerated timelines . so it gives you the impression that prosecutors certainly want to try to get everybody in and then be able to make a decision as to who they're going to charge or if they're going to charge. anyone now we don't know who those people will be. there could be some of the allies of the former president, people who are very involved in trying to overturn the election results right and then push. this whole idea of fraud could be the former president himself. and so that is right now what we know is the you know, certainly, i think that the political calendar is also playing into

this. anderson appreciated elliot elliot williams as well. quick programming note in about 20 minutes, cnn prime time. presents inside the trump investigations an hour long in depth look with cnn anchor and chief investigative correspondent pamela brown at the multiple investigations facing the former president should have new reporting on former vice president pence his mindset after the judge's ruling today whether you'll testify that's at nine p.m. eastern tonight, coming up for us, we're going to dive into the details of how separate allegations made by two women about affairs with the former president in the years before his election. turned into a present day criminal investigation. young lady who was mid thirties. a couple of kids recently went ththrough a divorce. she had d t of questions when she came in. i watched my mother go through being a single mom. at the end of the day, my mom raised three children, including myself. and so once a client knew that she was heard, we were able to help her move forward. your client won't care how much you know until they know how much you

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they met at his bungalow at the beverly hills hotel. he came and sat next to me and you know touched my hair and put his hand on my leg nearly a decade later during the 2016 campaign, stormy daniels was shopping her story about the alleged affair and says she got a phone call from her lawyer saying, i think i have the best deal for you. that deal was essentially a nondisclosure agreement or nd a promise to keep silent. it came about after daniels had approached the national enquirer with her story at the time. long time trump ally david pecker was running american media inc or am i, which published the national enquirer, the enquirer forged an alliance with donald trump. they would go out and seek unflattering and usually tawdry stories about donald trump. and they would pay money for the rights to those stories, which entailed essentially muzzling the people in possession of those stories. am is pecker helped broker the $130,000 hush

money payment to daniels. was it hush money to stay silent? yes pecker, in one of his editors contacted trump's longtime lawyer, michael cohen, who then reached out to daniels, and offered the $130,000 payment to make her story go away. when daniel's threatened to take her story elsewhere, court filings say pecker called cohen on an encrypted phone app and said the deal needed to be completed or it could look awfully bad for everyone. trump has denied the affair and any fault with the payment. still in the end, daniels took the deal. she signed the agreement 11 days before election day in 2016. playboy model karen mcdougal says she, too, was essentially muzzled by pecker and ami after trying to sell her story about an alleged affair with trump. i met donald when they were filming the celebrity apprentice at the playboy mansion. she says she met trump in 2006 and their affair lasted about 10 months. were you in love with him? i

was, yeah. and do you think he was in love with you? he was. yeah, told anderson she and her attorney met with ami told them your story. the story, she says amy was only interested in buying her story after trump won the republican nomination. the side deal was, we're squashing the story. you think it's because of personal relationship. with the guy who runs am i his friends with donald trump. correct federal prosecutors cut a nonprosecution agreement with american media back in 2018 ruling out charges for the publisher. as part of that agreement, am i admitted to paying karen macdougal $150,000 to prevent her claims of an affair from being made public. and anderson in that interview with you, you probably recall karen macdougal went into quite a bit of detail about was what was offered as part of that catch and kill scheme, not only the $150,000 to silence her, but she also said that she had been

promised that she would be on magazine covers that she would be able to write columns for their health and fitness magazines, which was certainly a passion for hers. passion of hers, i should say, and none of that ever really panned out for her, but they were successful, of course, in sinking her story before election day, anderson and that's who testified on monday. david pecker. randi kaye, thanks so much coming up, you'll notice some names, including sean hannity and tucker carlson. that dominion voting system wants testimony from its $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against fox news. who else they wanted to stand next? ever better when disruption hits your supupply chain and w write. make sure youou're ever deliverg freight brokerage to transportation management capacity and dedicated trucks and drivers. this is a keepsake frame. this i actually a photo from my wedding. i'm adam weiss

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notable host people like sean hannity, carlson, maria bartiromo, brett baer, people that are recognized by viewers. so very high profile case. if this does move forward to trial , and how are the house, the judge been responding to the arguments being made safe to say he's not impressed with fox's arguments in court a couple of times that he really scoffed at fox's lawyers in one time, they were talking about the objections to the exhibits that dominion wants to admit in a trial and the judging sort of blanket objections and to all the everything, and the judge said this to fox, he says. if i think you're going to be to interrupt testimony out of gamesmanship, you may have a problem. be careful, people keep your powder dry on this stuff. this isn't a game. this is a trial and you're going to be presenting to a jury and at another point in time they were talking about murdoch and whether he can come to testify in the in the case, and the judge told fox's lawyers this, he says, mr murdoch has claimed that he's traveling and that it is an inconvenience. but i also

have people telling me that he's hardly infirm and is able to travel around. i think you recently got engaged on st patrick's day, and he said he looks forward to traveling between his various residences in montana, new york and london. and of course, we just saw him at the super bowl with elon musk just a few weeks ago, so i think the trial scheduled for april 15th. is it clear if it's actually going to get to trump there could be a settlement. perhaps there could always be a sediment right before the clock strikes midnight, but it looks like all things are pointing to a trial happening in just a few weeks. anderson if it there is no settlement, the jury selection will begin on april 13th and then this would go to trial. april 17th again, you'd see some really big names appearing uh, potentially at this trial. fascinating oliver. darcy appreciate it. thanks so much. coming up next, something much lighter, which we all need. tonight you tell them how to watch the planets aligned five of them to be exact for nighttime show tonight. if your business kept on employees to

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