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original heaven's gate sunday at 10 on cnn. good morning to you. so glad to have you with us. i'm jessica dean to have jessica with us. i'm jim sciutto as investigators continue searching for a motive, new details are emerging about the shooter who killed murdered three children and three teachers and staffers at a christian elementary school. former teacher says the shooter was suffering years ago. all of this coming to light as the community tries to respond and take care of each other to face the painful reality. at the time like this, you you love each other. you support each other. you're there for each other, and nobody is walking through this alone. but this has been a tragic and horrible situation. and the lines of communication open with former president donald trump. top

house republican lawmakers regularly reporting to him as his enormous power with them on capitol hill indoors, plus just months after walking out of freeman adnan syed, the subject of a popular podcast serial bases a new legal challenge in his case why maryland appellate court has reinstated his murder conviction. but first this morning, we're going to go live to nashville, where cnn's carlos suarez is monitoring all of the developments. carlos what more are you learning about the investigation and also the victims this morning? well jessica and jim good morning. no doubt, authorities here in nashville are still focusing a good amount of their work taking a look at this mental disorder that the 28 year old was being treated for cnn earlier today, was able to talk to an art teacher at an art school here in nashville, tennessee, art teacher tells cnn that back in

2017. she taught the. 28 year old the shooter rather at the time for two semesters, and according to this teacher, she described the shooter as quote, whimsical and childlike, but that there was one incident in the classroom on the very first day of class where the shooter had some trouble trying to log into a student portal. the student showed a great deal of frustration, and the teacher said at one point was asked to leave the classroom. now the two of them apparently state friends on facebook and point last year, according to this teacher. the 28 year old shooter posted about the grieving the apparent death of a former basketball teammates and a short time after that, the teacher says that the 28 year old shooter asked to be referred to as he and him when it comes to pronouns now earlier today, we also heard from some witnesses who were here the day

of the shooting and described hearing the gunshots and then helping parents as well as kids. here is what one man told us this morning. they came all the way down the hill. to the road and jumped out in a four lane highway basically on the road there, and so stop the car immediately. we jumped out the people to the left of me. stop get out! and once they see these kids crossing the road, everybody stopped and got out, made sure they were safe. so that man at one point described seeing kids running through a forest just near this school guys. to run into the forest. lord help us well, carlos, there have been some details coming out about the victims, including the possibility that one of them might have confronted the shooter. what do we know? yes so we are learning a little bit more about some of these victims

and some of the encounters that they may have had inside of this school. we know that the custodian here mike hill. he was a shot dead at the entrance of the building where this gunman was able to get in. he is was described as a man who leaves behind seven children. and 14 grandkids. his family told a cnn affiliate out here that he was known as big mike around the school and that he loved his job very much. we also heard from the governor of tennessee. he said in a video statement last night that him and his wife knew cynthia peak. she was one of the other victims in this shooting. was a substitute teacher at this school, and the governor said that the couple were supposed to have dinner with her monday night. also carlos suarez, thanks so much. on capitol hill . republican lawmakers are resisting calls for more gun control legislation after the nashville school shooting, they're saying instead, the

focus should be on mental health. familiar refrain in the wake of shootings like this. cnn's manu raju joins us now motto you spoke with lawmakers representing tennessee, which we should note in the state legislature. they're they're actually got laws moving to further reduce gun restrictions . what are the lawmakers from tennessee you spoke with, say. i think that this relates enough. yeah, they're reflecting the view within the broader house and senate republican conferences, which is opposed to any further gun restrictions. you mentioned mental health. that was one component of a what was considered the most ambitious gun legislation that was enacted in the generation just one year ago. that measure also dealing with providing states, giving them more incentives to try to develop so called red flag laws to try to go after guns of people who are should not have them who are deemed risky. also enhancing background checks for people who are under 21 years old but stopping short of some of the other, more aggressive gun reform measures, such as imposing a ban on semi automatic

rifles and creating universal background checks to things that joe biden has called for. but in talking to those tennessee members, as well as other republican senators and house members, it's clear there is no appetite for further restrictions. what about banning those weapons that were used and attacks like these? i'm certain that politics will wave into everything. but right now i'm not focused on the politics of the situation and focused on the families. why not ban a r 15? why not talk about the real issue facing this country in regards to the shooting, which would be mental health laws don't work until people change their hearts were not going to see a change. and the leadership in the house and the senate, the republican side also going that john thune, the number two republican, told me yesterday that it's quote premature to talk about any gun restrictions even as there's been 130 mass shootings in the united states through yesterday, and the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy, has yet to answer questions about the shooting or indicate any endless interest in

moving ahead with legislation. so the divided congress unlikely to change the dynamic here, which has been for the most part stalemate on capitol hill, republican leaders in the house. did oppose that bipartisan measure became law last year on gun safety kevin mccarthy voted no. against that package. that's right. all right. manu raju for us on capitol hill. thanks so much for that reporting, and let's continue this conversation now with cnn national security analyst juliette kayyem. juliet. it's always great to see you. we just heard manu walking us through talking to those lawmakers about banning ar fifteen's, which are used in so many of these school shootings. they are weapons of war, and the fact is they simply destroy bodies a lot faster than other types of guns. do you think an assault weapons ban or ban on those types of guns would would make a difference. it's going forward. oh absolutely and decades of legislation and people who study crime and gun control, prove it, and i think just to your point quickly, six people, 63 children and three

adults died at the school. no no one made it to a hospital. in other words, these are meant to kill. there's no recovering from this kind of weaponry. so what? the data shows us his first that if you make gun owning harder, you will limit gun violence and we've seen it in this country during our assault rifle ban, but you've seen it in new zealand, scotland, canada and other countries. so the numbers are there so people legislators who say it doesn't work that is just define the numbers and facts. the second is just crying . generally we know from decades of study of crime, all crime is our crimes of opportunity. you allow someone you make it permissive for them to do something. and they will do it. so that's why we fortify banks. and that's why we, you know, put locks on her doors, and it is and so if you can the more guns there are the more violence there there is, and so you take away that opportunity. i'm not saying ban everything. i'm just

saying. you make it harder, more regulations and then the third piece, and this is important to remember because everyone's gonna get legalistic and focus on mental health. none of these are a total cure, but it's society can either make gun ownership. permissive or less permissive, and we have essentially made it like chewing gum. at this stage. it is too permissive. and you heard the mayor from nationals say, you know, maybe we just need to make a statement, right? make this stuff less permissive. and then people will, you know, have less opportunity. there'll be fewer guns on the street and then it works and the days i just want to make clear that data is clear the realism you hear from these legislators justifies decades of data. the other piece of this is the feasibility of red flag laws . there's not one in tennessee and there were warnings about even her family had warned about her state of mental health, and apparently she had sold one gun but still managed to buy seven others legally here. so does

this show that red flag laws at least have a function? right i'm not not to say that they would catch everyone because you're in effect, putting the onus on everyone out there to warn about everybody else but that they have a function and the potential to work. yes and the data also from localities that do have red flag laws if they're enforced, because if they're on the books, and no one's doing it, it doesn't work actually work. and why is that once again get to opportunity. what you essentially want to do is someone who's having bad thoughts. someone who is made do a crime. you want to create barriers for them to commit the kind of crimes that we saw at the national school and we see every day now in this country, and so the red flag laws take away the ability of them to easily purchased guns, and they also engage the community in this common effort. i want to be clear. i'm not. you know what? you know, i'm not naive. got laws alone will not change conduct, but they are part of an

overall package of looking at mental health issues of fortifying schools and protecting our students when they are at schools, all of them are necessary. but to simply say , well, you know the we don't need laws. we need to just focus on mental health that that denies any acknowledgement that the common thread we see in all these cases isn't you know it is basically the use of mass of wartime weaponry in our classrooms against our kids. and by the way, those reflective comments to do and criticisms they're not true because there is data as you know that that planning some sort of weapons and instituting red flag laws having it, but they don't ban everyone. and nor does any law and, you know, robbing a bank. you know, it doesn't stop every bank, but they do have an impact. yes absolutely. that's exactly right. so i mean, we call it in regular, you know, regular security. just call it layered defenses. you just want a bunch of different things in play that will stop this person

from doing this horrific thing and so red flag laws, gun control laws, all of them work, and as you said, the date is clearly people who just sort of throw out. they don't work. it's just it's just a lie. i mean, the data is clear that gun control laws work. time. thanks for sussing it out for us. so they come this morning, former president donald trump is wielding his power on capitol hill will have details on the back channel communications between former president and current gop lawmakers. that's next plus. former vice president mike pence must testify to a grand jury about conversations he had with donald trump leading up to january. 6th we're gonna discuss the extent of the judge's ruling just ahead and right now the house taking its turn questioning federal regulators about the recent bank failures and what has to be done to prevent that from happening again. think about t the best night's sleep you'vee ever had a

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jim jordans and trump are also close to jordan, of course, is the chair of the house judiciary committee, which is overseeing a number of these investigations related to donald trump. and then, of course, there's marjorie taylor green. she's a key trump ally who now serves on the house oversight committee. she has been trying to use her platform to relitigate the events of january 6th and i want to read you what she told me about trump, she said. i keep him up on everything that we're doing. sometimes i am shocked at how he knows all these things. i'm like, how do you know all this stuff and so a lot of the communication according to this reporting that i did with my colleagues annie, grayer, elena, trina and chris and homes is centered on trying to keep trump up to date on the pace in progress of their investigations, but in some cases trump world has tried to exert influence over the direction of these investigations. in fact, last month, a trump lawyer, joe tacopina, sent a letter to jim jordans requesting that he opened an investigation into the manhattan district attorney's office, which is investigating

trump or his hush money payments. and of course, that is exactly what house republicans ended up doing. so this is just one example. of how trump is still continuing to exert influence over the gop s investigative priorities, and it shows just how much influence he still has on capitol hill. german jessica certainly does melanie's winona for us. thanks so much a federal judge has ruled former vice president mike pence must testify before the special grand jury investigating former president trump. it's all connected to trump's actions surrounding the january 6th insurrection. and joining me now to talk about all of this is cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor jennifer rogers. jennifer great to see you and good morning i want to talk first with you about how we expect this to play out with the former vice president. he's going to be compelled to testify. we know that we saw trump's lawyer, evan corcoran, tried to fight this. the appeals process was quite fast. it was like overnight they and then he was testifying. the next day. it seemed like do you expect it to

go that quickly or how do you see this playing out over the next several days and weeks? well, mike pence has a decision. now he can try to appeal this or he can just go testify. if he appeals there's no guarantee it would be as fast. the appeal will go to a randomly drawn three judge panel of the d c circuit, so we don't know that they will get a panel that would move it as quickly. um and also there's not a date scheduled for his testimony, as there was for corporate so probably won't be as fast as that's really the big decision point for pence here. does he try to appeal or does he go ahead and testify? right and the president has been trying. the former president has been trying to exert executive privilege, time and time again to keep a lot of these conversations out of court and to keep people from testifying. that is just simply not worked. but you say in terms of what exactly will be forced to talk about that the it's if i'm understanding it right. the judge will be able to determine that and the exact language of

this we just don't know yet. so we don't know exactly precisely. we just know it'll be kind of broadly on this topic, right? that's right, jessica. so all of this is under seal. judge boasberg did issue in order about the testimony. but we don't know exactly what it says . so it's a little bit unclear right now. the exact language and so we don't really know the questions that prosecutors will be able to ask, and that pence will have to answer. the reporting is that it is generally speaking. he can hold back testimony pursuant to the speech and debate clause about his actions when he was president of the senate on january 6th. but more than that, we don't really know they're also with some reporting, saying that he would have to testify about trump's illegal actions, so all of that is subject to interpretation. if that's in fact what the order says, and they may have to go back to the judge with respect to specific questions to get a ruling on whether or not pence has to answer. and this ruling comes amid a separate ruling that all

of these former aides, including trump's former chief of staff very close, aides are also going to be compelled to testify. what does it tell you about this case that they're building that they are able to really win these various rulings and compel these people to testify? well, the executive privilege arguments that trump has been making with respect to all of these witnesses was always a weak argument. the supreme court ruled a long time ago that when you can demonstrate the need for testimony that that will overcome a claim of executive privilege if it's in the context of a criminal investigation, that's why the january 6th committee didn't have luck with these people. but jack smith is having that luck. what it tells me that they're now moving forward to actually get these people in the room in the grand jury is this is the end of the game. i mean more. meadows and mike pence are the two most important witnesses here who know the most about what actually happened in the days leading up to january 6th with respect to this scheme, so the fact that they're putting them in the grand jury in short order

means that they must be getting to the end, at least of the evidence collection period of this case. yeah, that's a great point, and i that's obviously a federal probe. i want to talk briefly with you about the case that's here in new york with the manhattan district attorney. that's about the hush money payments with stormy dan. the als at this point, we no one knows if they're going to indict or not. they've been taking some breaks, and they haven't been meeting which again all pretty customary as they kind of try to wrap things up and make their decision one way or the other. do you have any sense about how that might be playing out or what they may be weighing right now, specifically the district attorney as he tries to make this decision. it's so hard to tell. you know alvin bragg and his team can't speak about what they're doing in front of the grand jury right now. so you have this this information asymmetry right where trump is out there talking about it, and they can't respond with what's really happening. so you sure it

may be a bad sign if they're rethinking things, uh, for the indictment it or that they brought david pecker back because the grand jury had concerns all of that could be happening. it also could be the case, though jessica that they never intended to indict before next. week or the week after a lot of logistics that have to happen in terms of when the former president would appear security measures to be put in place. so we just don't know. i think it's safer at this point to wait and see what the grand jury does. yeah jennifer rogers. thanks so much. we always appreciate your expertise on this stuff. thanks for joining us this morning. thank you. and don't miss this. former vice president mike pence, joining wolf blitzer on cnn prime time for a wide ranging interview on his own political future and the multiple investigations surrounding former president trump that's happening tomorrow at nine p.m. eastern, right here on cnn. the fda. the faa is acting chief is linking the alarming string of runway close calls to the pandemic, claiming some pilot skills and muscle memory have been lost during

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sudden collapse of two major us banks. make sure we're trying to make sure it doesn't happen again. cnn's matt eagan closely following all of this, matt a lot of the attention focused on bank leadership. there are also questions about how regulators acted here. what are you watching for today? well jim, we are watching for this blame game to continue and let's be honest . nobody plays that game better than washington. there's a lot of finger pointing over exactly why silicon valley bank failed during yesterday's hearing regulators, but they pointed the finger at a bank management. some lawmakers, they blamed regulators, accusing them of being asleep at the wall. at the wheel and then progressives. they cited deregulation in 2018 the rollback of dodd, frank, no matter the cause, senator jon tester that moderate democrat from montana, he really demanded that regulators get to the bottom of this so that it doesn't happen again. listen to

test her. i am not a banker. i ain't even close to being a banker. i'm a dirt farmer, and i'm going to tell you when they laid out what this bank had happened over the last two years. you did not have to be an accountant to figure out what the hell was going on here. i agree. i got to say is as you do, your, uh, look back. into what transpired. it better be fixed. we are also learning more about this scale of this historic bank run. regulators say that on march 10th alone panicked bank customers they tried to withdraw $100 billion from silicon valley bank that is on top of the $42 billion that they did withdraw the day before . these numbers are massive, and i think a stark reminder of just how fast bank runs can happen in today's age of mobile banking and social media rumors. the

role of social social media here where folks are like tweeting about this, and you know all of a sudden, you know the snowball. the snowball gets a lot bigger. not even thanks so much for covering. also testifying on the hill right now starbucks interim ceo howard schultz. he's appearing before a senate committee to face what's expected to be very intense questioning over labor practices . schultz had previously refused calls to testify amid scrutiny over his belief that starbucks workers should not unionized strike despite that more starbucks stores have voted to do just that coffee company has now filed more than 100 charges against the union with the national labor relations board. lawmakers such as senator bernie sanders today, hoping to press schultz on what sanders calls his anti union stance, acting head of the federal aviation administration says a string of close calls might be linked to fallout from the pandemic. their little lot of people go there, and acting administrator billy

nolan says fewer flights during the pandemic may have led to a drop in technical skills. forced a lot of professionals into retirement hard to get them back and re certified. cnn aviation correspondent pete mountain has more jim jessica, we're talking about complacency caused by the pandemic. it's something we've heard about from pilots from labor groups from captain sully sullenberger during our prime time special on aviation safety earlier this month, and now we're hearing about it from the acting head of the faa, he says , essentially, that the air travel rebound is happening faster than aviation workers can handle. billy nolan, the acting head of the faa, made these remarks during an internal faa meeting in baltimore just yesterday but was interesting here is that this was also echoed by transportation. asian secretary pete buddha judge during my exclusive interview with him earlier this month. there would be one thing if we found a certain piece of technology in the cockpit or a certain control tower where there were there were a lot of issues, but instead what we're

finding is that pilots, ground crews and controllers alike seem to be experiencing this uptick. some have described it as a kind of rust. but that that needs to turn into a very concrete diagnosis and specific action steps. we're not going to wait for something worse to happen to act now. the other element here that no one points at is that retirements accelerated during the pandemic among pilots and air traffic controllers, and that may be contributing to these problems as well. although the six dramatic runway incursions at airports are still under investigation by the national transportation safety board of final cause, and each of those incidents could take more than a year, jim jessica you know a lot of loss of institutional knowledge with all those retirements mountain for us. thanks so much. coming up. u s secretary of state antony blinken is now facing a subpoena turnover sensitive communications related to the

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what's known as a dissent cable to the state department. it warned the secretary of state that the country's government was on the verge of collapse. of course, that's what we saw. the house foreign affairs committee wants to get their hands on that document. cnn's kylie atwood joining us now from the state department. kylie walk us through what exactly is a dissent cable and also what house republicans are hoping to learn from it. yes so a dissent . cable is an opportunity for diplomats to propose dissenting opinions to express concern about the policy decisions that are being made in the department . and it is a cable that goes directly to the secretary of state and the top state department officials here in foggy bottom if these diplomats are setting a dissent cable to the secretary of state what it indicates is that their opinions their views haven't been acknowledged in a real sense by their direct leadership. and we know in this situation from talking to us diplomats who signed on to this specific

dissent cable that they felt that their views were being labeled as alarmist by the diplomats in their direct line of leadership that they were bringing those opinions, too, so they felt the need to bring those concerns to the secretary of state. now this specific dissent cable was written in july of 2021. that's about six weeks before the u. s withdrawal from afghanistan. what these diplomats were concerned about was a catastrophe. afi when the u. s withdrew because they didn't think that there were specific actions being undertaken by the state department to actually prepare for that withdrawal. so things like enrolling the afghans who had worked with the us in biometric data program so that they could easily get out of the country now, of course, this is where the battle between the state department and chairman mccaul is unfolding right now because the secretary of state is saying that this is a channel that allows those diplomats to express their concerns. in a confidential way. he doesn't want to give this to send cable and all of those names of those

diplomats who signed onto it to capitol hill because he's concerned about having a chilling effect on diplomats who would use this channel in the future. but the chairman of the committee is saying that he needs that information. he wants that information, understand what the state department wasn't doing to prepare. for the withdrawal at that time, guys that dissent channel it's open for a reason to allow just that kind of you to be expressed. even if it's not the predominant view. it's helpful. kylie outward, thanks so much for walking us throughout. south korea and the us are demonstrating their firepower during major military exercises , and it's striking a nerve with north korea to allies. the drills are defensive in nature and their regular, but on wednesday morning, they used thousands of troops and high end weaponry to practice and amphibious invasion. north korea sees that as an offensive, not defensive drill. cnn's paula hancocks was there as tanks and troops rolled onto the shore's. the u. s. and south korean

presidents pledged last year to expand joint military drills, they said to counter the increasing threat from north korea. and that's exactly what they're doing. ship to shore assault, grounding of fighting force and equipment while trying to maintain the element of surprise. this is the drill that north korea always reacts to the idea of american and south korean marines storming a beach on the korean peninsula. pyongyang sees this as a dress rehearsal for an invasion of the south korean and american line has always been that this defensive in nature, 2500. u s. marines and sailors 3000, south korean marines and sailors working together on one large scale joint drill. the u. s landing craft air cushion or elcock, bringing to show all that's needed for the early stages of battle. we haven't seen this level of drills in the korean peninsula five years multiple tourism across the

country and south korea. that meeting held on land at sea and in the air. gained rare access behind the scenes of this training flying out to the u. s amphibious assault ship the uss make an island on the back of north korean missile launches and disputed claims of simulated underwater nuclear weapons tests. this is a drill that will be watched carefully in pyongyang about 13 miles from shore at this point, and this is one of the l packs that is being loaded up right now. ready for an amphibious landing. the 13th marine expeditionary unit is meant for rapid response to any kind of crisis, military or humanitarian, self sufficient and often the first to arrive in an emergency. but with the five year gap in training due to covid 19 previous diplomatic efforts with north korea there is an element of catching up. we've had to start from the basics again. there's some things that we're relearning the basic as justice communications between ships between aircraft,

and then ah, a partner and ally here in this region, north korean military moves it appears are not the main focus here. it's in an area of the world that significant right now, but it is routine. it has been scheduled. we've done this many times, so the fact that those things are happening around us, really. our focus is just on the exercise. interoperability is the most used term during this drill working on smooth american korean maneuvers. we're used to this now, so if we have to do this for real, we already done it. we've already worked with the republican screen and we know how to operate with them for us return to large scale drills. in a region of both allies and adversaries. and it's not just about north korea but also russia. the commander of the uss make an island told us that during this drill, they actually had a russian intelligence ship, shadowing them at a distance of some 15 nautical miles. he called it pretty routine. paula hancocks, cnn, korea more and more russian

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to cnn's elizabeth cohen and elizabeth. this will now be more widely available. tell us how easy it is to use those hmm. jessica it's really very easy. it's a no spray, just like you would take say for allergies. you tip someone's head back and you use the spray, and that's it . now this narcan or the generic naloxone has been available in drugstores, but it's behind the pharmacist counter. you had to know it was there and you had to ask for it. you didn't need a prescription, but you had to know it was there and you had to ask for it now. it will just be out there on the shelf with the shampoo and the toothpaste in the aspirin. let's take a look at why this is so very, very important. didn't this graph shows opioid overdose deaths since 1999. you can see how those numbers have just gone up so much to the point now where you look back at 2021 more than 80,000. people in this country died of opioid overdoses. that's nearly 9000 children, that'll

essence. from 1999 to 2016 nearly 9000. so hopefully this will make a difference. it made a difference even when they just put it behind the pharmacist's counter in various in various places, and the one big unknown here is the cost. we don't know how much it's gonna cost. if it's high, then well, none of this may work. particularly well . jim jessica. yeah, i mean, that's a good point, but hopefully this saves more lives . elizabeth cohen, thanks so much for that update. an attorney for adnan syed is speaking out after an appellate court reinstated his murder conviction. months after a judge vacated it, his attorney says there is no basis for what he said would re traumatize him. so i had spent more than two decades behind bars for the 1999 killing of his ex girlfriend, and his case was featured in the podcast serial cnn's brynn jim grass has been following the story in britain. i wonder how did we get here again? it was vacated. now it's coming back

and the disease does he have to go back to prison during another trial? yeah i mean, it is a bit head spitting jim. he does not have to go back behind bars at the moment, but he certainly is in jeopardy of that happening to him again. of course, his lawyers are going to be fighting that, but let's go back to that hearing that happened in september, where we eventually did see an onside walking out of free men. and in that hearing the attorney jared, i'm sorry. the district attorney at the time, the state's prosecutor, marilyn mosby, she argued that his conviction should be overturned on two factors. evidence wasn't properly turned over to the defense of the time and also that two suspects were completely ruled out based on dna in the judges at that time, agreed. and so that's why we saw him leave. the problem was that the families of that victim his ex girlfriend in this case, they weren't present at that hearing . they actually just were able to zoom in. they argue. they didn't even get enough notice that that hearing was actually going to be happening, and so they weren't able to present

their own arguments of why he maybe should be behind bars. and that's what the appellate court here is. agreeing with with that family that they deserve that process. and so that's why now it's essentially a redo of that hearing is what the appellate court is calling for, and i want you to hear from the family's attorney of the victim. and of course, they're celebrating this. take a listen. he was on cnn this morning. represents a step towards transparency and the rule of law. you know that you can't have a trial by podcast or trial by publicity. this is a conviction that's 21 years old. that's been affirmed by every single court at every single level, and miss mosby was able to use a law because she didn't like the conviction. to essentially reverse it, and that's not how things are done. of course, the attorneys for side they are saying that this ensuring justice for haman lee does not require injustice. for adnan. the appeal was not about

annan's innocence, but about notice and muteness. and of course, that's the argument that we can expect to hear as they take this to the state supreme court there, guys. brigid grass. thanks so much for following right? jim it's been great to be with you today. thank you to all of you for joining us as well. i'm jessica dean. she'll be back tomorrow. so will i. i'm jim sciutto at this hour with amara walker starts after a quick break. your paint is really bad . best coffee i've ever had. thanank you bear. sorry side whe i said should have used bear got one code hide. today let's paint with fair the number one rated paint onlyt the home depot the first time you connected your go daddyebsite in your store was also the first time you realized what we can do anything. cheecake cookies, cookie sales from one place with a partner that always puts you first started today at go. daddy dot com. harvey i'm 31. i'm a fitness instructor. i saw myself

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