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nashville metro police say shot through the doors of the covenant school in a calculated plot. before being neutralized and killed by officers, the former art instructor named maria column in said. for the last year, hale had grieved online over the death of a girl who used to play basketball with her. and calling me also told cnn. it was around this time that he'll wanted to be referred to as he him and go by the name aiden. call me says that hale was apparently suffering now. police have yet to release a motive for the shooting. they're still investigating that going through writings and videos and messages sent by the shooter. but no one person was hails target, they say it's still not clear exactly why hale attack the elementary school. as of right now, we don't have any indication that there was any problems at the at the scol cou8
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years old and still living at home with her parents, but we can't confirm any type of problems at this time. we want to take you to nashville now, and cnn national correspondent dianne gallagher. diane you've learned some additional details in the last few moments about audrey hale and their knowledge of guns. boris bianna talked to the police this morning and they told me that they still do believe, as the chief had initially mentioned that the shooter had some kind of firearms or weapons training, and the chief initially said that because of actions that happened when they first arrived there on scene monday morning because the shooter began shooting through an upper window on another story at police when they arrived, but it was the actions of that shooter that led
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them to believe that perhaps they had some kind of weapons training today, nashville police tell me they still do believe that although they are working to determine when that training may have taken place, and where, and to what extent as well, whether it was just basic firearms training or something more remember, they found seven different firearms in the possession of this shooter, and they noted that they had all been purchased between october 2020 and june of 2022. we have talked about the fact that police say that the parents of the shooter said that they were being treated for emotional disorder. i asked police if they could describe or explain when that treatment began. they told me they could not talk to me about that at this point, but boris bianna, they say that they do believe this is somebody who was quite quite quite adept with weapons. and it's worth noting. there are no red flag laws in the state of tennessee, either,
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so it's still questionable as to whether anything could have been done to stop the shooter if it had been known that the shooter was seeking medical treatment. we are also though, learning more stories of heroism coming out. one samaritan shared what he experienced that day. tell us about what he saw and who he helped. you know, bianna. there has been no shortage of people who come are coming out here to the vigils that you can see behind me outside the entrance of this school and church, and many of them say that they were in the area. when this happened on monday morning. one of those was jason hoffman, the father of a nine year old himself. he was driving by and he said he began seeing teacher and children running out of the woods. that's when he stopped his car along with other people on a busy road. to try and get those children to safety. i had no idea at the time. what was going on? i didn't know if it was like a police chase that ended up in
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a shootout. um it was when i saw the teacher come out of the woods and the kids behind her that my heart sunk. he also told cnn this morning that he again he's a father of a nine year old three of the six who were killed on monday morning. here at this school were just nine years old . tonight the city of nashville will hold a citywide vigil, which will include state and local dignitaries, the singer sheryl crow, and also boris bianna, the first lady of the united states. biden will be in attendance as well tonight here in nashville. it just leaves you breathless. they're seeing those children running across the street there and heartwarming against to know that there are so many good samaritans who stopped in their tracks to help them. diane gallagher. thank you. pivoting now to news out of the nation's capital, republicans continue to hammer out a strategy on the dead ceiling, and they have invited federal reserve chairman jerome powell to speak at a closed door
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study committee lunch the deadline to raise the dead limit . keep in mind is just a couple of months away. cnn capitol hill reporter melanie's known as covering this for us today. so, melanie, what are your sources saying about a possible meeting? yeah well, this meeting with the republican study committee just wrapped up. the republican study committee is the largest group of conservative members on capitol hill. there are a lot of republicans who belong to that group. and i'm told that a big topic of conversation today was inflation. that is obviously been a huge concern for the country. and i'm told that powell was pressed on how many more interest rate hikes there are going to be, and he told them that they anticipate one more rate hike this year. he also talked about the banking crisis and gave lawmakers an update on those two recent high profile collapses of those banks . here's a little bit more of republicans said they talked about in the meeting. remember, is obviously still concerned about inflation. and uh, you know, fed's ability to get back
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to inflation expectations. did anyone express any criticism or concerns about the decisions to continue raising? no i don't. i don't think so. and look, i don't think you're gonna have a lot of members who are gonna critique it because inflation is there is the true contagion in our economy. we got to get it under control. he did indicate that you know, there's just no more need for fiscal stimulus. now, one topic that surprisingly did not actually come up in that meeting. today was the debt ceiling. congress only has until sometime this summer to raise the nation's borrowing limit. but kevin mccarthy, the speaker and president, joe biden have not had any communication directly since their first meeting. this was a while ago and so there is no clear path right now for how they're going to resolve this house. republicans still haven't laid out their own house budget or what cuts they plan to make. kevin mccarthy did say that he is prepared to in the next meeting layout. four children off dollars worth of cuts, but it's still very vague and unclear what republicans are
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willing to commit to and so as of right now, it's a lot of jockeying of finger pointing. it's a lot of political gamesmanship right now. but time is running out and the stakes are incredibly high. indiana. melanie the white house, saying that they are not ready to negotiate until they see that republican budget will wait and see when that emerges melanie's and on a live from capitol hill. thank you so much. federal regulators testify on capitol hill about why the warning signs at svb and signature bank weren't caught sooner. the washington post is reporting that president biden may take things into his own hands. after those unprecedented bank runs earlier this month, the biden administration guaranteed that customers would receive the billions and uninsured deposits from both banks. cnn's jeremy diamond joins us now live from the white house to jeremy. what is the white house considering here? well look over the last several weeks since the collapse of silicon valley bank, of
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course, we've seen a number of hearings on capitol hill with bank regulators and other officials as well as banking executives. but here at the white house, white house officials have really been scrubbing and looking for potential regulatory authorities that could be strengthened in particular as it relates to these mid sized banks similar to silicon valley bank's these are we're talking about banks, which have deposits between 100 billion and 250 billion. these are also the banks that saw some of their regulatory authority. his weekend under president trump as a result of action that bipartisan action in congress, the white house is now preparing to call for tougher banking regulations on those mid sized banks, and you can see some of the proposals here that include requiring stress tests from federal regulators. greater stores of immediately available cash and mandating that banks formulate plans for an orderly dissolution in the event of another potential crisis, but ultimately, what's important to underscore here is first of all folks here at the white house are still looking. king and the shape of those regulations that they could call for could certainly change in the days
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ahead. but what's more important is the fact that these are ultimately going to be proposals from the white house. it's ultimately going to be up to banking regulators, particularly those at the federal reserve to decide what kinds of regulations they want to take. some of those proposals are things that regulators have already indicated that they themselves are looking at. and then, of course, there's a question of potential congressional action, which is something that president biden has also said he would support. namely measures that would allow regulators to claw back executive bonuses, for example, from bank executives at failed banks. that's legislation that's now been introduced bipartisan in a bipartisan way by senators elizabeth warren and josh holly. so we will see where that goes. but that is one thing that the white house has already expressed support for boris bianna. and no doubt there's still a lot of uncertainty in the financial sector, specifically among those small to midsize regional banks. jeremy diamond, thank you. we want to turn now to the billionaire accused of union
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busting tactics this morning, the outgoing ceo of starbucks, howard schultz, testified before a senate committee led by his foil, senator bernie sanders. yeah, he opened by accusing starbucks of the most aggressive and illegal campaign against unions in the modern history of our country. think about a multi billion dollar company. with unlimited resources with all kinds of lawyers, advisors consultants, and yet they have not yet signed. one contract with any of their nearly 300 unionized shops. madigan is here now with more cement. how exactly a starbucks being accused of working against unions. well this was quite the showdown right? on the one hand you have the most progressive or one of the most progressive members of congress and bernie sanders. then you have the billionaire businessman and howard schultz and we should
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note that schultz initially he declined. to appear before this committee, the only relented after being threatened with a subpoena, so bernie sanders did not hold back right? and he basically accused starbucks of illegal union busting the most aggressive and illegal union busting campaign in modern history and to make his case. he pointed to a ruling from just a few weeks ago from the national liver relations board, which accused starbucks of quote egregious and widespread misconduct in its dealings with employees were trying to union unionized in buffalo, new york, and for his part, schulte stressed that starbucks has not broken the law here, and he referred to these findings from the n l r b as mere allegations . listen to what howard schultz had to say. we have never, ever taken any benefit away and we will never would of anyone who was interested in joining a union. we simply have said that under the law, our understanding is we did not have the right to provide incremental benefits
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during the bargaining process. howard schultz, the leadership team of starbucks. the board of directors, some of whom are here today would never take benefits away of any kind of someone who was involved in trying to join a union. now. this hearing created some strange bedfellows with republicans, including rand paul and mitt romney, coming to the defense of howard schultz, who by the way just a few years ago , seriously considered challenging former president donald trump in the 2020 election, listen to what mitt romney had to say. i think it's kind of rich for folks who have never created a single job in their life to grill, someone who's created hundreds of thousands of jobs for americans and people around the world. and somehow suggest that this woken company is not woken up. it's really extraordinary and, of course, the conflict of interest . my democrat colleagues get overwhelmingly their financing for their campaigns from unions
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, so they want to force unions and places where the employees themselves are not looking for him. now all of this just shows how starbucks has become the latest flashpoint in this effort from workers really around the country to fight for better wages and better working conditions and stronger benefits . and we know that this battle between the labor movement and corporations is not going anywhere anytime soon. yeah despite that testimony, we know it's a fight. that's not going anywhere anytime soon. like you said matt eagan, thank you so much. former vice president mike pence, says he has nothing to hide. when it comes to january. 6th so will he now testify in front of a grand jury about his conversations with former president trump leading up to the insurrection. we'll have new details up next. w what does it mean to o be ever better? it's your customers getting what they ordered when they expected discover how rider e commerce
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again before they break on the fifth. remember it was more than a week ago that trump incorrectly predicted that he would be arrested on charges related to this case. meantime, former vice president mike pence says that he says, won't say if he will appeal a federal judge's ruling that says that he must testify about his conversations with donald trump leading up to the insurrection. let's bring in cnn's sara murray. she is live for us in washington. sarah, how is pence responding to this? well, he's not really giving a straight answer to reporters in iowa today about whether he may try to further appeal this decision by a federal judge, essentially saying mike pence does have to testify before a grand jury as to answer questions about his conversations with donald trump in the run up to january 6th where, of course, we know the former president was pressuring his then vice president is trying to block the certification of the election. but you know pence got a little bit of a ruling that he can hang onto as at least a partial victory, the judge saying he would not have to answer some
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questions about his role on january 6th when he was serving as the president of the senate. so here is what pence had to say about how they are considering that ruling today. i have nothing to hide. i believe we did our duty under the constitution on january 6th. and i truly do believe that preserving the constitutional protections enshrined. in the speech and debate clause was very important reviewing how he sorted that out. but at the end of the day will obey the law. so he said he's still going to talk to his attorney. but he was very complimentary of the judge's ruling, which may give you at least a hint of where they're headed on this. we will wait to see what more it mike pence to has to say on the subject. as far as we know there is still no date set yet for his testimony, guys all right, sara murray. thank you for joining us now is tom dupree, former principal deputy assistant attorney general under president bush and cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny. welcome both of you, jeff. let's
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start with you and let's parse through this language that we heard from former vice president pence. he says. he has nothing to hide that he will obey the law. so from what you're hearing , do you think this will ultimately lead him to testify before the grand jury? look, he certainly did not come out swinging. if you will, this morning and the venue where he was speaking in urbandale, iowa, was that the west side conservatives club breakfast. it's a place where presidential candidates potential presidential candidates come and speak. and if he wanted to sort of come out and attack the judge's ruling in, uh, you know sort of show some loyalty to the former president. he did not do that, and this is really what we've seen with the former vice president. he was complimentary as sara was saying to the judge's ruling in the sense that did draw a distinction between his role as the senate president . but he also said, look, i have nothing to hide, so he is still consulting with his lawyers. but i must republicans around him would be very surprised if he would appeal this ruling, so it certainly looks like he will
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comply with the law. now, politically speaking, we don't know really what the fallout from this is his lane is very narrow in terms of the republicans, who certainly are are are interested in seeing him. he is essentially ruled out most of the trump base. but there is a wide sense of republicans and others and other voters who were very happy with what he did on january 6th. we will see what the politics of this are going forward. it's a fine line for him, no doubt, but i think his tone this morning showed that he is certainly going to comply and not appeal. this people would be very surprised if you would do that. and politically just to note the backdrop is important to he's in iowa, talking to voters and shaking hands and doing all of that, as this is happening, tom , from your perspective, how significant is this for the special counsel? and if you were prosecuting this case, what would you ask the former vice president? sure well, first. i
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think it is a significant win for the special counsel. and look, the special counsel has had a bit of a run of victories here. he is methodically brought these witnesses before the grand jury or attempted to. he's successfully batted back claims of privilege, and now he's got kind of a big catch so to speak , the former vice president of the united states, if i were prosecuting this case, i will be exceedingly interested in the conversations between former president trump and mr pence in the run up to january. 6th we know just from prior reporting. the president was exerting incredible pressure on the vice president, often caustic terms to basically overturned the election when he served as president of the senate and counted the votes on january. 6th the vice president pushed back, but i suspect we will get a lot more insight into precisely what former president trump said to vice president pence and all the pressure that he attempted to bring to bear to get the vice president to do his bidding. so jeff on that note. have we heard any response from the former president's camp yet
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? because you know he his, his side continues to argue that this is just another example of the legal system being weaponized. could this in a way in a perverse way, i guess once again help him at some point. we'll see about that. i mean, the reality is this is one of the lines of inquiry that is potentially very damaging to the former president. much more so than the new york case. we've been talking about really nauseam for the last several weeks, so this is one of the things where legally speaking, he may complain about this ruling, but substantively, this is a very serious investigation in terms of what the former president was a potentially trying to do to undermine the results of the federal election. we're talking federal crimes potentially here. so they may, uh, certainly complain about this. but the former president has been pretty quiet about this , which is unusual for him. he's been focusing on the new york case in recent weeks, but this is one of the two more
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consequential cases this case and of course, and the atlantic case as well. and tom, as jeff pointed out, pens likely will comply given the circumstances around all of this. we don't know that for sure is language has been noncommittal. so i'm wondering if there's a chance he does appeal. what do you think his lawyers might argue? well i think what they will argue is that the judge simply didn't give pence all the protections that he requested all of the privileges that he claimed. it's hard to know exactly what he would argue, though, because of course, the judge's ruling remains under seal. we do know that he gave the former vice president of victory of sorts, and that he apparently upheld and vindicated. mr pence's claimed that his conduct on january 6th was protected under the constitution, speech and debate caused so it's very possible that you know, in the quietude of his home, the former vice president is actually celebrating this ruling and the vindication of his legal
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position. we don't know what this is that he is genuine when he says he wants to consult with his lawyers make an assessment of the likelihood of success on appeal and whether they actually want to challenge this. if you were to challenge it, i tend to think the d c circuit would probably uphold the district judge on this one. yeah he seems to have bought himself some protection, especially by carving out the defense of the speech and debate clause as well. but we'll see jeff, i know you'll continue to follow this story for us. tom dupree and jeff zeleny. thank you. so russia says it has suspended all nuclear notifications with the united states. this decision could have massive implications on global security, and we're to discuss the implications next. asking the right question can greatlyy impact your future. are you q qualified to do this? especially when it comes to your finances?? are you a certified financial planner, cfp professional professionals are committed to acting in your best
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professional buyers. get more for your jewelry with worthy dot com. good morning, everyone we do begin with breaking news this morning. russian state media is reporting that moscow is suspending all nuclear notifications with the united states, and that includes alerts on test missile launches and everything that falls under the 1988 nuclear new start treaty. that's the only bilateral agreement left between the world's two largest nuclear powers. senior us officials previously told cnn that russia and the us are not providing any nuclear data to each other. cnn national security reporter natasha bertrand is joining us with more on this on a tasha, another example of a continued breakdown in the post cold war order here. any reaction from the pentagon on this latest announcement? will be on the pentagon has not issued an official statement about this comment from russia's deputy foreign minister announcing essentially that russia is going to halt its participation. it's
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notification to the us under its new start treaty obligations. of course, that treaty was really the only remaining treaty between two nuclear superpowers regarding nuclear force posture and the level of nuclear warheads and missiles that each country actually has. this was really a check on each country's kind of nuclear force posture there, but the u. s wall, you know, anticipating this? they're still saying that they are condemning it they anticipated because just last month, russia pulled out of this treaty. they said that they were going to suspend their participation in it. and so the u. s. had been anticipating perhaps that the russians would also suspend the notification part of this treaty as well. but you know, it is not coming as a major surprise to the u. s and in fact, it was a senior pentagon official during the hearing just yesterday who disclosed that during a regular kind of communication with the russians about their treaty obligations, kind of trying to get them to disclose how many nuclear warheads they have as
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part of this treaty, which happens roughly twice a year. the russians then responded that they they were actually not going to provide that information anymore, and this was disclosed yesterday by the pentagon official who later said well if the russians are not going to provide this information to us, then we are not going to give it to the russians, either. here's what he said. we are going to continue to examine what other diplomatic countermeasures are appropriate . and what we're trying to do, sir, is balance, both responding to russia's irresponsible behavior, but to continue to demonstrate what we believe are responsible. nuclear power's action should be a senior state department official did say moments ago that they have not received an official notice from the russians, saying that they are suspending the notifications as part of the new start treaty . but look, another big question here is whether as part of the suspension of notifications, the russians are also not going to tell the us when they do test of missile launches, for example, and just last month, russia carried out an intercontinental ballistic missile tests that
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they did notify the u. s of as part of that new start treaty. unclear now. about whether those kinds of notifications are going to continue either. and it makes up of that scale could prove disastrous. natasha bertrand reporting from the pentagon. thank you so much. let's bring in daryl kimball. he's a nuclear expert and executive director for the arms control association , sir. thanks so much for sharing part of your afternoon with us, um, just walk us through the implications of this decision because obviously a mix up over a nuclear test. could be disastrous as i said a moment ago, but there are far worse things that could happen here. no. well this is yet another very troubling development in the deterioration of us russian nuclear risk reduction dialogue as natasha said the news to sheikh arms reduction treaty of 2010 requires that each side provide information on missile
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test launches and you want to do that because you don't want the other side. to believe that a test missile launch is a actual launch of a missile in in hostile action. the treaty also requires exchange a detailed exchange of data on the number of warheads bombers that carry the warheads and missiles so that each side can then inspect at their facilities each other's facilities. whether those declarations are accurate, so we're not going to be getting that from the russians. the bite administration is calibrating the response. it's important that we continue as they've said they're going to do to provide our missile test notifications. uh we're going to be withholding because the russians are the data. that is, uh, describes how many warheads or which bases, etcetera. um but this is just another sign that this treaty is in trouble. it is due to expire
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in less than three years in in february. 2026 i think the bigger issue is whether the u. s and russia will be able to agree to stay below the limits set by this treaty 1550. deployed warheads on long range bombers and missiles. the russians, thankfully have said that they're going to stay within this limit within those limits, but that's not a sure thing. given the war and the fact that treaty is going to expire one way or another as a positive sign in victory when president biden and president putin were able to extend the treaty for another five years, but obviously a lot has changed since then. what's also notable as putin's decision to suspend the participation and not withdrawal come pleat lee, and that's leading many to believe that he is using this as leverage and perhaps blackmail in an attempt to lift sanctions that have been imposed on russia since the start of the war. how dangerous of a precedent would that set? if in fact and i don't believe the u. s would do so?
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but if, in fact these sanctions were lifted because of these types of threats well. it's unclear why putin has decided to do this. i mean, if he thinks this is going to provide leverage in, uh, easing the united states support for ukraine's defense or the sanctions on russia because of its war of aggression, that's clearly not going to happen. there are many inside the russian defense establishment who ah disagree with this decision. it's unclear what his his game plan is, but i think it is very interesting that russia has a putin has said that they're not going to exceed the limits set by this treaty, at least for now. that suggests to me and many others that russia does want to maintain limits on these most deadly arsenals. we don't want a nuclear arms race. the russians don't want a nuclear arms race, but if these limits are lifted or the treaty expires without a replacement,
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uh, we will for the first time in 50 years, not have any constraints on the u. s. and the russian arsenals, the world's two largest and that could open the door for an increase of the arsenals and arms race that could not just involve us in russia, but possibly china, which is also starting to build up its currently smaller but it could be much bigger arsenal in the years ahead. and there, will you actually predicted? my next question doesn't that embolden other players around the world to boost up their arsenals or two in the case of iran create a nuclear weapon, and then you wind up with the chain reaction where perhaps saudi arabia pursues a nuclear weapon as well. well, i think the countries that are most concerned about the dynamics between the united states and russia and whether they fulfill their responsibilities to constrain their their deadly arsenals. it's china and around
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european allies, uh, the chinese actually have come out and said that they would like the united states. they urged the united states and russia to work together to implement new start and to continue efforts to constrain their their arsenals. it's not in china's interest for russia and the united states to increase their stockpiles remember china has about 400 nuclear weapons. today. the united states and russia each have about 4000. so china does not want to see that that scenario. our allies in europe also do not want to see russia building up its arsenal. for whatever reason, they already have enough, uh, security concerns with the war in ukraine with russia's aggressive behavior. so it's very much in the interest of the united states. our allies to continue to press putin to reengage the, uh, the diplomatic table or it's very least to continue to pledge
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. uh to constrain the russian arsenal keep below these limits until such time as we can. negotiate with a partner. uh russia. that's not possible right now, and putin continues to be reckless in his rhetoric about his nuclear arsenal just a few days ago, announcing that he would transfer some tactical nuclear weapons to belarus in the coming months. daryl kimball, thank you so much for your perspective and expertise. we appreciate it. thank you. as drug overdoses hover near record levels, the fda is taking a major step to make the over the counter version of the opioid antidote narcan even more accessible. so how much of a game changer? could this be discuss next? is this a called if i ever heard, but yes, it is. byby killing themselves. they ensusured. theheir immortality.s
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step. it's something that i and other advocates have been calling for many years, mainly because it helps to normalize deluxe in use. naloxone as bianna mentioned is something that is a complete antidote to opioids. if somebody is overdosing from let's say fentanyl, which is a very potent opioid, they could be dead within minutes because they'll stop breathing. there'll be unresponsive. but if naloxone is given it will save their life. they could be walking and talking within just a couple of minutes. and so this really needs to be made widely available. removing the prescription requirement is one major barrier. that's that's that that has stood in the way, but another is still in the way , which is that of cost. we still don't know how this over the counter prescription or how this over the counter as opposed to prescription is going to be priced. and if it's too expensive, and people cannot pay for it, that it's not going to do much good either. talk about that because i wanted to braise that with you. given that there are reports that if, in fact it is too costly that it can be prohibitive for the people specifically who needed the
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most. now some optimistic news is, i believe some insurance carriers will be covering narcan , but how important is it to get this at a price that's affordable for those that need it the most. well right now the nasal narcan version can be very expensive. it can cost as much as $75 per dose. and usually it's given it a two dose pack so $150 most people are not going to be paying that amount to buy a just in case treatment that they might use to save somebody else's life right now. insurance companies already cover narcan if it's purchased through the standing order prescription. the problem, though, is when the medication is made over the counter. a lot of insurance companies may not cover the over the counter version. ocean so we're awaiting word from the company about how they're going to price it and then we really need private insurance companies as well as medicaid and medicare to cover this as much as possible. dr wen, let's shift gears and talk about your op ed in the washington post about covid vaccines. you think the
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united states should follow the lead of the united kingdom and canada and allow boosters for people who are at high risk of severe infection because of their age or their immune systems? right this is the most question that i'm getting from people and primarily those who are older with chronic medical conditions for immunocompromised , who got the initial bible in booster when it first became available in september, so it's now been or six months or more since that booster. we know that immunity does wayne, especially against symptomatic infection. it also begins to wane for severe illness. now for somebody who is generally healthy and young, who's had covid not a big deal, they can probably wait to get their booster after a year they could wait. year between getting boosters or even longer , but somebody who's older with chronic medical conditions. i think it's reasonable to say these by violent boosters are going to waste anyway. why don't we let them let people who want to get that booster to get it? six months after their initial shot? i think that's something
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that the fda and cities who should really take up quite urgently and again. i really don't see any downside to letting people who want to get that booster to access it sooner. dr leana wen always appreciate your expertise. thanks so much. thank you. of course, stay with cnn. we'll be right back. what does it mean to be ever betterer? it's yoyour customers getting what they ordered when t they expected discover how rider e commerce makes your customers' experience ever better. forack pain. i've always been a take two and call in the morng guy, but my new doctor recommended salang pass without another pill, upsettg my stomach. i get powerful, effective and safe relief salon pas. it's good medicine. active story. attic arthritis can slow me down now helps me get going
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several days in the hospital. cnn's delia gallagher joins us now from rome. so julia what exactly are we learning about this doctor's visit, i know has been previously reported that he had a scheduled doctor's appointment, but this appears to be a bit more serious. that's right. leon enforced so earlier this afternoon, the vatican told us quite by surprise that the pope was at the hospital for what they called previously scheduled tests. uh and now, just about a half hour ago, they have said he will be staying in hospital for a few days because of respiratory infection. they exclude covid 19. he does not have that that he has been complaining in recent days, the vatican says of some respiratory ori difficulties so he will stay in hospital. they say it requires a few days of medical therapy in the hospital. they're not saying exact timeframe. obviously we saw him this morning at the weekly audience in st peter's square. he was speaking, fine, breathing fine
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and looked just fine. but obviously he's been having some difficulties in the past few days, as the vatican says, and so he'll be spending. certainly tonight. he's there now and will monitor for the next few days, you know. pope. um had part of his lung removed. when he was younger. he had a respiratory infection. this is something that has carried with him throughout his life. so uh, occasionally it's caused him to whisper loses voice things like that, but we haven't seen him in hospital for a respiratory infection. we did see him in the hospital for a good 10 days back in 2021 when he had part of his intestine removed, articulated and he spent 10 days in the hospital. little and he complained about it afterwards because he said he had a bad reaction to the anesthesia. they had to remove about 13 inches of his intestine and colon, and he said he didn't want to go back and do any further surgeries.
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because of course, you know he has a need problems, mobility issue and one of the questions for him in the past two years has been. why don't you have a knee surgery so they don't want to do the anesthesia again. but this seems to be of a different nature. the vatican's talking about respiratory issues. and a respiratory infection is their diagnosis from the gemelli hospital in rome as a half an hour ago. boris bianna. delia gallagher. thank you so much for bringing us that update. let's go straight to cnn medical analyst dr lena when we were just having a conversation about a different topics. we're glad that you were able to stick around with us. obviously the pope has some special considerations with his health. delia mentioned that he had had part of a long removed. he's 86 years old. talk to us about what goes into treatment for someone like that. well really depends on what is the condition that the pope has. and so i'm certain
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that when he went to go to his position in the hospital, they would have monitored his status so they would have looked at his cardio respiratory status. what are his vital signs? what is his oxygen saturation at room air? does he need oxygen? and then they would have done x rays and perhaps ct scans or other testified out what exactly is this condition? does he have a bacterial pneumonia? does he have a virus and in this case, we don't know we would wait for the vatican to tell us more, but i think it's really important to mention that people who are older in the pocus 86 years old that they are at high risk for complications from any of these respiratory illnesses. so something that's pretty minor and mild for a younger person could send someone who's older with chronic medical conditions into the hospital. and so i know that they will be moderate much more closely and also trying to prevent other complications that could occur when somebody has a retro attorney infection, they could get a superimposed. actually they could get a second infection or there could be complications based on their existing medical illnesses. so
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all of those things are what we have to monitor in the days to come. especially given his past history with respiratory infections and that surgery that he had years ago removing part of his lung. of course, we will continue to follow this story at dr leana wen, thank you so much , and we will keep you posted on the pope's health as we learn more details, stay with cnn. i i remember when i firirst started flying and we would expeperience turbulencece. i would watch the flight attendants. if they're not nervous, then i'm not going to be nervous. financially i'm the flight attendant in that situation. the relief that comes over people once they know they've got a guy to help them through. i definitely feel privileged to be in that position. my a one. c stayed here. it needed to . here is a one c is down with rebelsas down wh rebels is my a one c
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