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i say every hue was highly superintendent sighted policy 20 to 40. i read it. you know what it says controversial issues are okay if they encourage open mindedness. it would seem like that's this song. it absolutely is. and she's a national treasure and it i'm the same. i'm with you. it hurts my heart that dolly parton cannot be sung in this whole. yes, she should be on the news. she should be on the $20. bill. what lessons for the one? i don't want to start something that i don't want to replace anything. let's create a new denomination and put dolly on the 7 2020 with harriet tubman. let's not go. there were very clear about this. but i mean, what do you tell your kids like you can't talk about rainbows? like that. that's all gone. everything's gone. adults that have the problem, by the way, not the kids. it's actually pretty catchy song to jordan klepper, thank you so much. we'll watch your show when you are hosting thanks for joining us here at the table tonight. thank you all for joining all of us tonight. cnn tonight with alison camerata is next. we're gonna leave you though. with dolly and my life, right? really
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makes a difference in this world. i want to sleep. good evening, everyone. i'm alison camerata. welcome to cnn tonight . you've seen the video of the brave police officers rushing into a school to save children. tonight we'll talk to an er doctor who was standing by ready to treat the victims, but none of the ambulances he expected ever arrived. some of our politicians today, saying there's nothing we can do about gun violence. doctors disagree. plus the overdose drug narcan will soon be on the shelves of grocery stores, gas stations, even vending machines. do they have it at your child's school? should parents keep it at home? we'll explain what you need to know. and tonight we bring you our next pulse of the people, this one on how technology like artificial intelligence is changing all of our lives. i sit down with a group of gen xers millennials and gen. z is to
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find out what level of glee or panic this causes now. technology is moving too fast for me personally, i can say, um , i don't have alexa. she's not allowed in my home. i don't talk to her. i don't have siri activated. i'm a little, maybe paranoid. that being said me being scared of it isn't gonna stop anything from happening. okay now i want to begin, though. with the nashville school shooting. let me introduce my panel we have with us tonight. former white house communications director alyssa farah griffin data reporter harry antin. the los angeles times is l z granderson and award winning journalist and founder of mo news, moshe one, you know, also joining us we have dr j. willens chief of pediatric neurological surgery at vanderbilt university medical center in nashville. dr rollins, i want to start with you. um can you just tell us what you did in the e? r on monday morning, when you heard that there was a school shooting? um how you prepared for the victims who
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might be coming to your er? well allison, um there was a whole host of people down in the emergency room. uh the text went out. you know, i looked down. i had about six or seven different texts come in, saying that there was a mass casualty event got a phone call from the chief of staff, saying j. this didn't drill get downstairs. and basically, you know, we like many hospitals, you know, we do simulations for this kind of work. um you know, trauma is a big deal in our world of pediatric healthcare. and it was , you know, 35 40 people all in kind of an ordinary and orderly positions, you know, waiting for the ambulances to arrive. um and you know, everybody kind of has their position. there's anesthesia. is there the head of the trauma services? they're running the situation. the head of the pedes er is there that your nose and throat doctors? there's neurosurgery where they're they're just a whole
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bunch of people. they're ready to kind of lean in and do what it is that you know that we want to do you know, which is to help these kids and save these kids lives and then you waited and you waited and then what happened? yeah so we waited and we waited just like you said, and then, uh, you know, then the word went out that there weren't any ambulances that are working on arrived and it was because everybody had died at the scene. and you know, i will tell you, you know, alison and the rest of the crew up there is that you know that kind of that silence and that sadness is just, uh it's still she was just pervasive. you know, everybody just kind of slowly dispersed and again, you know when you watch you know the videos of those police officers in nashville, you know, leaning in to do their job. i mean, i watched that and it makes me so
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proud to, you know, to see them do what it is. they were trained to do and for us not to have that ability. it was just absolutely disheartening. yeah i can imagine, and i can imagine what you're describing that silence as everybody disperses with the, um, reality of what's just happened. it's so interesting doctor because nine months ago you wrote a piece for time titled if our politicians could see what we could see. finish that sentence for us if our politicians could see what you as an er, doctor could see what would they do or what would they say? well you know, they would. they would sit down at a table and they would sit on all sides of the political fence and say we all agree on one thing, and that is that our children should not be shot and killed at school. if they can agree with that one statement, and i can't imagine there's not a single person. in the government are outside of the government within this country who would disagree
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with that? and then and then just hash it out. this is a republic. i believe in the republic. you know the people that were part of that that article that essay alison it was the american society of pediatric neurosurgery. we you know, we've all day it just happened. you know, we're just all felt so helpless in our world of pediatric neurosurgery about what to do. and you know, it was like, what do we do? well, somebody does. he might know a senator has anybody can anybody write? something can can somebody know? um you know somebody in the media contact and that's really how that that that paper came out. um and it really was born out of this sense of frustration. and you know, one of my closest friends is the chief of pediatric neurosurgery. connecticut children's hospital. and he was there in newtown. when the kids nobody came, and he describes standing in the gowns ready for people to come, and that was years ago. and i never ever when
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i wrote those words down after i after i talked to him and put it down in the essay, i never in a million years. thought that i'd be getting that page. you know, saying that this is not a drill, you know, go down. this is a mass casualty event. it's a school shooting, and then i never even dreamed that we wouldn't even have a chance to act. it was just a remarkable situation. well dr j. willens thank you. for all you do you and, uh, thank you for describing it in those terms for us. and for our viewers. it's really powerful. thanks for your time tonight. yeah. thanks thanks for having thanks for having me on and thanks for elevating this because it's just so excruciatingly important. so thank you all for talking about it, agreed. i want to bring in my panel now, mo let me start with you that's haunting. it's haunting to think about them all standing there waiting to do their jobs. they don't want this assignment, but they were ready to do the assignment. and then nobody ever comes and was also haunting three of the kids who died born after sandy hook right, like never again. yet it
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happened. you know it occurred to me as i was watching that, uh, conversation that literally on 9 11 3000 americans died afterwards we invaded two countries spent $2 trillion over 20 years because 3000 americans died. 45,000 americans die every year of gun violence. now that includes, um you know that includes shootings that includes accidents include suicides, but let's add it up, right? and to think that we can't come up with a solution for this. this is not an external enemy can internal enemy there is a solution. it's coming in november. 2024 vote there asks out. the people who are saying that they can't do anything. fine thank you for your service. get someone in who can americans have a choice? we really do. you don't have to go with republicans who are going to support the n r a. you can go in the republican primary and pick someone who is going to be for universal background check. who's going to want to do something so that our kids don't
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get shot. you don't have to pick between republican and democrat. i'm not saying that you need to switch over and be a liberal for five seconds to stop school shootings. no there is a primary . do your jobs, study the candidates and find someone that you can support. who wants to do something to stop this? the issue one of the issues l z and you know this so well is that they have different takes on what would stop it, and we saw that highlighted so in such technicolor today in the halls of congress, there were two congressmen, democrat congressman bowman of new york and republican congressman massey of kentucky, and they here they are having it out. they have control of the house. the american people need to know that they don't have to hurry. to do anything to save the lives of children need some more time . because look at the data. you're not looking at any data. lobby single what i'm saying
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dying. i know i've got children. army teachers. that's worth it. every school teacher school counselor, i was a middle school principal. i was in cafeterias protecting kids every day of my career. there's never been a shooting, never shooting time. we've got guns here to protect us. why should have somebody to protect them? let's say you've worked in dc obviously, this is madness is madness. i think that there's actually quite a big disconnect from the american public sentiments and elected officials in washington as specifically on the republican side. i'm a republican. i fundamentally believe in the second amendment and responsible legal gun ownership over 92% of americans support background checks. for example, red flag laws pull in the 90% this notion . i reject wholeheartedly that there isn't more that elected officials can do to keep children from being massacred.
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and i was i mean, i'm heartened by the fact that thom tillis, chris murphy were able to come together and do you know, take some steps on gun reform earlier this year, but it clearly isn't going far enough. and i think what happens unfortunately, is too often the right retreats into the partisan corner of we've got to just address mental health and hardener schools and then the left says it's only about the guns give joe biden credit. he has addressed the mental health aspect. it's both it requires a gun to commit the crime, but it requires somebody who is in a mental state that they're willing to mow down children. you have to be able to address both. you should get the hell out of congress. if you're not willing to act on it, and people saying we're not doing anything well, then then let someone else do it. but you both have said that. and here's here's someone here is a congressman who says there is just no way we're ever going to fix this. so this is congressman tim burchett on gun legislation. he is, um, from nashville. i believe so listen to him today. three. precious little kids lost their lives, and i believe three adults and in the shooter, of
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course, lost their life, too. it's a horrible, horrible situation, and we're not going to fix it. criminals are going to be criminals, and my daddy fought the second world war in the pacific japanese and he told me, he said, buddy. he said. if somebody wants to take you out and doesn't mind losing their life, there's not a whole heck of a lot you can do about it. if you think washington is going to fix this problem, you're wrong. they're not going to fix this problem. they are the problem. so harry is his option to surrender. i guess it is. and you know, my father was drafted in the army in 1945. i don't think he would have quite shared the same sentiment as that gentleman's father, who served in world war two. he might be taking the wrong message from his father who served in the pacific. he thinks we should have surrendered to the japanese. i doubt his father said. i doubt his father said that, you know, but at the end of the day, i think that if nothing else we i do think there's some agreement here that this ultimately is in the hands of the voters. the voters are the ones who put these people in the congress. the voters are the
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ones who vote on background check measures, whether they be in nevada or in maine, swing states where basically background checks really kind of came in at about the 50% market . they're slightly passing or slightly failing at the end of the day. if voters want to change something, this country, they're the ones who are going to do it because they're the ones who control the ballot measures. and there, b. they're the ones who control the people who serve them in congress and potentially change the loss ahead. i encourage people to go back. we just went through this. yeah genetics er tobacco. put us through this already. we've done this. they knew it was in the 19 fifties, there was some sort of loose link between cigarettes and cancer. they went and hired a pr firm in the 19 sixties, when a certain general came out and said, hey, there seems to be a connection between tobacco and cancer. they went on hire lobbyists. they continue to push it back and push it back knowing full well, there was connection because anyone hurt their bottom line. we've already done this as a country. so why are we doing this again? when it comes to guns when we did it with
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cigarettes? and the thing i'll just add here is the problem is getting worse, right? we've had 16 school shootings this year. that's more than any of the last five years. except for in fact, 2022. it was 20 at this point, and the number of mass shootings is also well up were doubled and 30 right now for the year, and so the idea their plan of we can't do anything. it's not working their plan of doing the problem, i would say is, i think there is an appetite in the senate. as i noted, obviously, the gun reform that went through and even chris murphy on cnn the other day said if you're not gonna be able to do you know an assault so called assault weapons ban, he even said then let's put in requirements for more training and more background checks have one that could pass the senate. but hyper partisan gerrymandering on both sides in the house has districts so red or so blue that there is no room for compromise on an issue to get something that could actually pass through the interesting this divide between gun owners and the republican legislators who represent them. i was talking to gun owners today. um and in our community on instagram and i was like, what do you guys think and in terms of background checks, training, wait times mental
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health checks. each scenario that we look at in recent in the recent weeks are different, right? the six year old who grabbed the gun clearly, it wasn't secure in that home. we had the shooting at the high school in denver. that was a handgun. so insult. women's man ain't going to stop that. but what are you gonna do? they're in this case in nashville. you had someone under the care of a doctor who purchased seven weapons. um well, clearly there creatively get together on capitol hill or get together in tennessee and figure out a solution as to why somebody under care who's on suicide watch was able to buy seven weapons. but but but where is that divide? how is it that this is what republicans on capitol hill purport to represent? and yet in talking to gun owners, self described conservatives, they say, actually, i'd be fine with some of this stuff. there is a disconnect as i'm a republican and a gun owner, and i fundamentally believe that we need more strenuous. background checks and that there are actions that we can take that. it's such a uniquely american
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problem. that doesn't happen. absolutely the primaries again. it really does. no one's. i'm not suggesting that republicans will switch over and vote democrat. what i'm suggesting is use your primary more intelligently stop going for people who are going up to drag queens or saying crts around the corner. don't pay attention to all the other important issues. no use the primary to actually help solve this problem. such a great point. because tennessee is definitely cracking down on drag queens. yes, they are. it is true real animation. that's right. the legislation. we gotta go. thank you very much. everyone really appreciate that stick around because when we come back john fetterman, senator federman is returning to the senate after being hospitalized at walter reed for depression since february. he was there longer. than the average stay. why and what will it take for him to get back into his job on capitol hill? all of that? here you're more than j jt a landowner. you're a gardenene.
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, that's done an in depth article on this. the average stay for depression is 6 to 7 days. he was there 40 days, and what they say is that there were a couple of reasons number one. he'd had a stroke, so they were trying to make sure that his medicines weren't interfering with his treatment for the stroke. and so also after having a stroke, you're more prone to depression. there are changes chemical changes in your brain as well as the depression that comes from having lost some of your you know, he had auditory processing issues. so some of your capabilities family member had a very similar experience, and it does generally get better with time. it's something that can kind of self heal in the brain. um i think that it's going to be incumbent upon the senator when he's back, and when he's healed to just to talk to his voters about where he's at how he's been able to how he is. doing the job when he's in the hospital. what he's test staff to do listen. mental health is a real issue in this country. i actually think it's powerful and important that he's highlighting. this is something
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he was suffering from. but he does. there's a there's a burden of just explaining how the job is still getting done while he's out of the office, one of the things that we've learned his staff has been making daily visits to him in the hospital to update him on goings on on the hill, and he has co sponsored legislation from his hospital bed, so i guess it's working. still it's working. you know, i should point out that you know, the voters in pennsylvania by late perhaps didn't know about the depression issue. they certainly knew about the stroke, and he won easily by five points, despite the fact that there were many republicans who who attacked him over it. look, i think you know, whenever i hear about health problems such as this, i always think that the voters are more forgiving than some in the press are. the fact is, the voters have friends and family who have suffered depression. they have had friends and family have suffered strokes. so my guess is, you know, based upon looking at the polling data that john finerman's political future as long as he's able to go back and do his job is going to be just fine, but obviously, he may have some catching up to do in terms of a set of duties. is it fair
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to ask if he'll be able to work at full capacity? yes it is fair to ask, but it's also fair to be. it's also fair to be able to handle the response right and i don't just mean in terms what the answer is, but how he answers it because part of the discomfort people have. it's because he has had a stroke in his speech is a little bit different, and we in this nation. we just have a problem with looking at old people who are problem dealing with people who may have physical challenges, and we get uncomfortable and we would much rather vote that personality, not deal with them, then actually be uncomfortable as we were talking about yesterday. so it's not just about the answers, but how he's answering it and how people receive and thinking it's going to be able to do the job based on how it sounds and looks questions during the campaign. as to the lack of transparency, um, that you're getting from the federman camp for a while, and so i think that one of the lessons is be transparent. be a spokesperson on these issues, and by the way, he's not the first senator to have a stroke and serve mark kirk from my home state of illinois, you know, had a stroke, and so for four years now, by the way that did come up
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in his election in 2016 against tammy duckworth's she made it an issue. at times he was voted out for a variety of reasons. but and then you before that, you tim johnson. i mean, i remember senator kennedy being wheeled out onto you know, this is not the first time also given the age of the senate that some have medical issues, but do we think it's in his nature to be transparent? i think it's probably up to his staff at this point open question. that's what i'm curious to see. i am i interviewed him on during the campaign, and it was shortly after he had a fairly rocky debate and even a few. it was probably a week later i interview would him on another network and you would you saw that there was a significant improvement in that short amount of time. so i do think seeing now you know, he's been down. he's been out of the public eye for him to give some sort of address remarks i think would be important to people could see. yes, he's progressing. yes, he's still tuned in and able to serve again. this is a six year term, so he's not up for election. this could be in the bat. you know the rearview mirror by the time he's running point, thank you all a big step forward in the fight against america's opioid epidemic, the fda
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the fda taking a big step towards addressing america's opioid crisis. the fda approving over the counter sales of narcan , the opioid antidote, it's sold in the form of a nasal spray and blocks the effects of opioids on the brain and restores breathing . this decision by the fda could save thousands of lives. data from the cdc shows that in 2021 alone, more than 70,000 people died from fentanyl and other synthetic opioids. the rise in deaths comes at the same time that authorities have seen a surge in the amount of fentanyl seized at the border with mexico . cnn's david cover took a look at how the drug even gets to the border and found that it starts in china despite the country banning the production and sale of all forms of fentanyl, following pressure from the us the ingredients to make the drug are still coming. and where they're going well, here's some of david culver's report. d a
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officials tell us the majority of precursors ship directly to mexico. cartels cook up fentanyl in secret labs. we wanted to see for ourselves traveling into the state of sinaloa cartel country as some see it. we got exclusive access with the mexican army as they hunt for drug labs. garden. they took us to their latest fentanyl lab bust this unassuming home white building right there. that's the fentanyl lab. the army says they seized 270,000 pills here all containing fentanyl. soldiers keep watch 24 7, preserving the scenes for prosecutors and preventing cartel members from restarting production here. panel is back with me now, most so having narcan available, i mean, they're talking about having it at gas stations having it in vending machines, making
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it readily available, and there's talk even of parents of teenagers having it keeping it in the home in case there's a party, you know, just having it be. i don't know what what this says. if this is going to help stop everyone from dying, or we've just accepted the fact that fentanyl and opioids are everywhere. it's like a defibrillator, right? you need to have them everywhere. and the problem is that with all those drugs come across the border laced with fentanyl, the kids when they have a party and there's drugs. there's a chance that there could be fennel in there. what's remarkable about the mexican cartels is literally monitoring fentanyl deaths in america being like, oh, guys, you cooked it a little too hot this time. i mean, that is happening. um and they're like, all right, you know, because they're literally working in a lab, creating this stuff to try to make it as addictive as possible without killing people out there. scientists right like they are over pharmaceutical man. if i don't i don't think they went to the schools and, you know, making sure everything is accurate. there probably like
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cooking it up the way that i cook in the kitchen a little bit of this a little bit that blah, blah, blah. listen. what is it saying? we have a problem, but we just got done ripping the government because it wasn't doing anything about guns. so i'm not gonna rip the government funding, making the move to get this more assessable to people. i would rather us try to treat this like covid and make it all hands on deck. then say, oh, my gosh, we're so drug addict. maybe we shouldn't do this. no let's save people's lives first and then deal with the world aspect later this comparison very interesting because melissa republicans, in particular are very engaged and very passionate about trying to stop fentanyl from killing teenagers and they've held. i think effective hearings and certainly got in the country's attention about how many teenagers died from fentanyl overdoses. we've heard the heartbreaking stories more kids. and teenagers die from gun violence. and yet republicans say, well, there's nothing we can do about that. that's
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interesting. that's i mean to tells his point that you just you cannot just throw your hands up and say you're not going and then this is actually i think this is a huge move by the fda. this could save countless thousands of lives. police officers, first responders have had narcanon them for years. if you take if you take something laced with fentanyl can kill you within 10 minutes, so this has the possibility to reverse those effects. and often times it's people who think they're taking something like z nx or percocet ? maybe, you know, trying to help them sleep or they're trying to just have some fun and it's laced with it, and it can end up killing people. this is a move in the right direction. i don't think we should become. we should stop trying to diagnose the true problem with which is the massive flood of drugs over southern border. but this will save lives in the wrong to see it through this political loans. i don't think you're wrong. i mean, but if you look at the polling, there's a big difference between how people view guns and how people view the opioid crisis right one is more deadly one, maybe more deadly, but more republicans say that the number one public health crisis is opioids. it is drug overdoses. they don't say the same thing about guns at you
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know, we number one killer of kids. i understand what the stats say. i understand that, but that doesn't necessarily mean how the public feels and at the end of the day, the politicians are going to follow with the voters go, and this, i think, is the giant disconnect that's going on. democrats are there on both of those issues. but republicans aren't and i think the response that you're seeing on those two issues sort of illustrate that polling are hitting their children more is the difference right there having more close encounters with the issue than perhaps some other. i think that's a great way to put it, and we'll also notice. you know, a few weeks ago, i went into a spreadsheet. i was like, okay. is there any places you know our republican places more likely to have drug overdoses and democratic places. no it's everyone everywhere. it's everywhere, writing everything you gonna say, and i do think if you strip away that , you know, i think most people if they're taking their partisan hats off, see that these are both huge issues that need to be addressed. but at the end of the day will the crisis at the border is a legitimate crisis? humanitarian and national
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security that has to be dealt with? it is also a fundraising boone. it is something that turns voters out for my party. so keep that as an issue that it's always going to be front and center in republican politics. on the flip side, i think that it's a much harder case to make with the base on the gun issue, and that's why i really applaud people like senator thom tillis, who are coming out and getting in front of it and saying you don't want this happening in your community. you want to be able to say you at least try to do something and you can respect legal gun ownership will still doing something. we've got to change the narrative within the gop. i think the country is there. i don't think elected officials are did you have a point? well i think that we're looking at comprehensive solutions right deal with the border. in the meantime, narcan available on gun violence like school security, mental health gun laws. let's look at a comprehensively to harry's point about democrats. i think we're hoping it would argue. the democrats aren't there on the border and on fentanyl, um, so ultimately, like both parties need to say if we're all going to take off our partisan hats. let's take over parts and hats and look at everything comprehensively, you know?
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interestingly the mexican president this week said we're going to deal with the fentanyl issue to what extent he can is unclear. there was a trial recently of the head of the mexican fbi that we put on trial here that was in the pocket of the cartels. so there are issues across the border. i mean, that's a much more complicated international issue, but certainly something we need to deal with cultural aspect to it as well, right like there's the border. there's the narcan. and then there's the reason why people are taking drugs. and i think the cultural aspect of this conversation doesn't get enough oxygen demand. i mean, you have to also exactly thank you all very much for that. so some of the biggest names in tech are issuing a dire warning about artificial intelligence and between tools like chat gpt and social media algorithms. it's all happening very fast. we're going to get a pulse of the people across the generational spectrum. how do jen's ease feel about it? how about gen x is? how about millennials? all that's next? oh, we know you care. but if
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cnn. check that maria. i know that. that's what i've noticed. all right? my panel is standing by to talk about this next story . some of the biggest names in the tech industry, including elon musk and steve wozniak are calling for a six month pause in the development of artificial intelligence systems, citing what they call and i quote, profound risks to society and humanity. dozens of industry leaders signing a letter saying that protocols must be implemented to halt an out of control a i development race. it all sounds worrisome. our latest pulse of the people panel focuses on the galloping advances in technology and the impact that it's having on all of us members of gen x gen. z and millennials are all expressing their concerns. how many of you feel that culture is shifting. given technology and everything else too fast. show
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of hands. basically all of you, i would definitely say technology is taking over our lives, and in some ways, it's not for the best. i think it's definitely changed the way that we interact with other people. people are more worried about 1.3000 friends on instagram or twitter, rather than actually maintaining close personal relationships with the people that are important to them. i will agree, uh, you know that we're not being careful with the technology that we are producing. i'm not actually used catchy dp all i've heard from france's that oh, my goodness. this report technology is moving too fast for me personally, i can say, um, i don't have alexa . she's not allowed in my home. ah i don't talk to her. i don't have siri activated. i'm a little, maybe paranoid. that being said me. being scared of it isn't going to stop anything from happening. and it's really insidious what it does to our attention spans. and the way it commodified our attention and
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our selfhood to then just make us better consumers to go buy things on the instagram ads. i mean, it's complicated stuff. my wife and i, we run to social media accounts. uh that focuses on travel because we want to encourage latinos to travel the world. so i'm trying to help fans, you know, traveled to 2026 world cup. and i need to talk to not be bad for my work for purely for the promotional purposes of my business, and so there are benefits to the technology that we have. i'm trying to help fellow folks save money because i think that's at least the helpful thing to do in this world rather than create more angry tweets at everybody else. as far as my take on my generation. on one hand, we accomplished so much. we created industries out of whole cloth, and i i'm a technology aficionado. but i'm also horrified by what has done to us and i see the alienation. i have a daughter who's 18 and the way
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she and her friends communicate and what they see and what they're influenced by is horrific when i hear steve jobs, who said that he didn't allow the devices he created in his own house for his children. i thought, well, that's really telling. and i wish somebody had given us that warning label once again this week chat gpt three and now four, and they're absolutely amazing. but there's also the very inventors of the technology. you're saying we can't be responsible for what's going to be done with it. it would be helpful if the people in power that are you know they're not reflective of the generations that are using this technology. um we would have different leadership right so it would be helpful. more of us were in charge to help implement policies. second help continue disinvestment in technology while at the same time, uh, not create those unintended consequences. how many people like danny's idea or agree with
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danny's idea that if our legislative leaders were of a younger generation, we'd be in better hands with social media and technology. i think it's a great idea. and if when i first saw that was the first hearings on capitol hill when zuckerberg was being interviewed and watching the senators at that time, who had no understanding of facebook at all, and they didn't even know the questions to answer, ask they didn't understand the answers that they were being given and it was an absolute embarrassment. those in power right now have don't have a clue what's coming. one of the answers is you elect more people like maxwell frost, who is the representative from florida who i believe is the youngest congressman now at 26 27. i think we need people, more people in their twenties and congress for sure. i wake up every day in some measure of panic around the future and my future in particular, i am trying to temper that with gratitude. for all the things
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that are going right in the world. like this very civil discourse that we can have tonight. for example, people my age and older have to empower those of the younger generations who have invented it who understand it to take control of it, or it will take control of us and that that's that's scenario is just too horrific. so i'm i'm choosing to be optimistic if we can if we can have this level of discourse going forward, we definitely have to be able to maintain that civil discourse. so that we can have policy discussions. we can debate and we can make progress for the future in the right direction, and it's all just about talking and being able to reach that common ground in those compromises. okay so we all agree a i has gone wild. basically, that's what i just got out of that. so what might happen next? the panel is going to weigh in. at least i thinking of. with the allegra. we live life our way. allergies don't
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in the clouds of your choice. with flexible multi cloud services that enable digital innovation and enterprise control. vm ware helps you innovate and grow. i hope you just saw pulse of the people. that's our segment where i spoke to gen xers, millennials and gen z ears about the frenzy of developments in technology and how we feel about it, including artificial intelligence chat, gpt and the effect they're all having on all of us. let's bring back my panel. i'm back with alyssa, harry l z and motion lz. i feel like when we talk about these futuristic things, but we alternately giggle because we think like it's sci fi stuff, and it's never going to happen and feel petrified and are clenching at all times. okay? and i don't know what the middle crown answer is here. all i know is what the millennial was talking about about like the margin tailored greens and you know chuck schumer's all getting together and trying to decide what's best for us with technology that scares the hell out of me. i'm just being real
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with you like you might be. experts will never feel your you came to congress to bring, but you're not expert in technology. and if the people who are in charge of technology is saying pump the brakes then i think congress should be putting on the emergency brake because they are not prepared to handle that conversation. they are saying, pump the brakes, the people who know what they're doing with the last real regulation we had on capitol hill in regards to tech happen in the nineties in the dialogue bureau, right, like they still haven't figured how to regulate for social media and its impact in the past decade, and now we're at web three point. oh and a i and like, where is that going? and ultimately, what's interesting is so the internet personally developed right out of universities and the pentagon arpa net, right? that's the history of the internet and al gore and an al gore. you know, god bless him at the same time, you know, have a i being developed by a bunch of tech ceos with poor for profit goals. um where does that go? sky net trust that process and at the same time, interestingly, the headlines in the past few weeks
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among the job cuts and tech the ethical ai offices within microsoft within meta within multiple companies that are developing i among the job cuts the people who are the ethicists . no when i was at the department of defense, we released the principles of ethical article artificial intelligence use, and when we were looking at it in the defense room, we're talking about the weapons systems we're talking about using a i in warfare. and if we're doing it, we know our adversaries are also experimenting with it so not to offer an even scarier notion here. but if there's fears about, you know, chat gpt getting too smart. think of what that happens when you're incorporating into things like weapons systems, which is happening in real time with places like china. alright i would just say, you know, i agree with all the scary, you know, i'm the type of guy. i mean, take a look at the phone and i still have right here. right keyboard, the keyboard, the keyboard, i hold on a typewriter. i actually used to collect them from thrift shops. i'm not kidding you, but either way, so i get all of that. and you know, i am worried, but i also i'm kind of excited, right?
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i kind of wonder where we're going to end up like the idea that i'm able to go on a chat gpt and i'm able to, you know, ask these questions and it comes up and obviously it's flawed in some ways, and i'll say things sometimes that are untrue. but what's your best case scenario? what do you want to use it for? the you can't use the internet and your typewriter there before i would say, you know, one thing i might want to use it for is essentially, you know rough drafts for certain things, right? i then go in and then i'm able to, you know, figure out okay, this is not actually right. but it was sort of cut that cut. how long it takes to do certain tests. that's what i'm saying. there's i'm hopeful. there's always going to be some human component to whatever it is that we're talking about. if we're not then hello. that can be very scary. part of the problem is that it doesn't know the truth. no it doesn't doesn't know the truth. that's exactly right. a lot of sometimes just falsehoods and nonsense and gibberish, and it also falls in love with you accidentally. i'm still not over the one that fell in love with the reporter trying to break up his marriage and also talked about wanting to,
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you know, get out of the machine cyberattacks and get how the machine weight too far has ability to hallucinate for whatever that's worth at the same time, i, by the way, speaking of our profession, journalism i threw in there last week, i was testing out. barred versus chet gpt and i was like, write me a four paragraph latest story on gwyneth paltrow trial. essentially very well done like and it came out in about five seconds. so just f y i secure to me. okay, so you can write a paper. but if you were to call a business and try to get like, cancel like a service and use the automated service that work can not work, so explain company will not be getting a match the one place that we could use it all happily, not going to be getting just real quick to put a fighter point on it. i mean, when the billionaires behind the invention of this or warning yes, i do think we should heat it. these are people going to jettison off the planet. the second they can. the rest of us can has a space program. and he's warning about great point. thank you all very much. okay so
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