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district in central florida. i'm gonna explain. i'm going to say words right now and then ellie hunting is going to explain the words that i'm saying but off relationship okay, so locked in key provisions they locked in key provisions before desantis is new board was able to take over and their battle stems from disney's opposition. you'll remember to florida that florida law that prohibits instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity through third grade and only in an age appropriate manner in older grades. that was the law that critics dubbed. don't say gay desantis retaliated, you'll remember by going after disney's special tax status around its sprawling or landau area theme parks. okay so we have a lot to discuss with my panel. jay michaelson is here. he's a rolling stone writer slash rabbi. we have l leoni. he's our cnn senior legal eagle . who's going to explain everything tonight under jones is a former democratic congressman, and evan siegfried is a political consultant and millennial expert. okay

gentlemen. great to have you here. what just happened, okay? it turns out that for a long time now disney has been given quasi governmental powers over itself. basically the state of florida has allowed them to run their own shop to make their own rules and get special little tax breaks. okay, along comes this law that sometimes called the don't say gay law. disney opposes this ron desantis in his sort of typical ron desantis fashion sees a moment of political opportunity, he says. oh, good. i can go after disney because they don't like this law. and so he says, i'm going to take away your special shil privileges. disney. i'm going to take back control of you like any other company for the state, and so the way that they execute that is desantis is given the power to name this board. there's a special board that governs disney and to put all his own people on the board. but before desantis is, people could take power. the old board entered into an agreement with disney, which basically said you can continue running yourself forever before we leave office,

so it's like a lame duck congress sort of passing a bill in its final days, saying we're going to preserve the status quo forever, and now we're going to have a legal battle about whether that agreement is good, clever maneuver. basically mr toad's wild ride, but with people in suits, that's right, get that reference the millennial one guy. uh huh. have you been to disney world? i have well, then you're conflicted out of this segment. i thought that was the next segment. we're gonna so great. so great, though, right? this is like lived by mob rule die by marlborough. i mean he's playing. it's kind of like worthy of a scorsese film like i'm gonna take it from my point the board myself. i'm going to appoint the board before the board is appointed. i'm gonna grandfather myself in, so it's great. you know, i live near where the sopranos last episode was filmed down new jersey so this all resonates for me. great and nonviolence. scorsese film just corporate board level mafia. we talk about the political violence or the political fallout from this ron desantis has been getting beaten up by donald trump with a two by four and what really

names right and said that he didn't names well and that he would be running a pizza. or he would be working at not even running a pizza parlor if it weren't for him and all of them are serious aspersions in a republican primary, but donald desantis came really to the four to the republicans in his fights on these culture wars and the fight with disney, so i think, in the short term him taking on disney and taking them to court is going to benefit him. but there is a long term risk. if he loses in court, donald trump is going to be able to run away with that, because desantis is argument going into before he even announces his presidential campaign. i get results well, if he can't get results, and he gets snookered by mickey mouse, can you imagine the names and all of the things that donald trump will say? i think ron desantis will stay governor through 2026. if that happens is certainly a brilliant plot twist and what is an elaborate effort to quash any so called woke people in entities in the state of florida on the part of

ron desantis, but as he litigate this in court. i do wonder whether this doesn't remind the american people of how unimportant or ridiculous some of the projects that ron desantis has undertaken are right. i don't think american, the american people as they deal with inflation and as they, you know, take another look at the war in ukraine that were heavily invested in that they want to see this guy go up against mickey mouse any longer than what he's already done. i guess we'll see because people definitely seem exercised by woke stuff, so we'll see if it still has the numbers. not really, actually there. i mean, certainly for the republican primary being on the on the empty work team is a winner. but when you actually look at the numbers on, don't say gay in particular and florida participating in the sort of nationwide war on trans people. the numbers the moderate middle of america is not on board, both with either with fighting, you know, disney and mickey mouse or with criminalizing being gay and trans. okay, let's move on to what we've learned in the trump investigations. today at least one of them so the manhattan d a. this is the one that is the

stormy daniels hush money payment, and we found out today that they haven't made any decision about indicted. and they're going to be taking most of april off. and so basically, ellie, does this mean that this investigation is peter ring out this one? no it does not necessarily mean that. let's let's keep this in mind. first of all, prosecutors have almost complete control over what they do in a grand jury when they go into a grand jury, alvin bragg right now has unfettered say over. will he seek an indictment and when there's no reason other than we're all going crazy, with impatience myself included, but there's no reason why he has to make a decision by today. tomorrow next week. he may have a statute of limitations issue that crops up in a in a month or so. but there is no legal difference. and so it could be. i'll give you some of the why everyone's saying why. why why? why is it taking so long? could be he just wants to think about it could be. he's just not sure it could be his waiting for more witness testimony. it could be. he wants to bolster his case. it could be. he wants to minimize

the amount of time between an indictment and actually in court appearance. it could be. we don't know this but it could be that he is wary of being the first of these cases when there probably are others on the way and this hush money case is the weakest in terms of evidence and the weakest in terms of this, can he coordinate with the other prosecutors, the one in georgia ? um or even the special prosecutor doj and say, hey, guys, just wondering what's your timeline? because i'm trying to figure out my time. yes yes, yes, there's no evidence he has. but, yes, this is what prosecutors do every day. it happens all the time that you will find out. oh, the guys across the street, a different districts looking at this first thing you do you pick up the phone, you say hey, are you guys looking at so and so? and if so, you go. okay. how are we going to deal with this? so we have to work together. you're going to go first. we're going to go first. maybe it gets a little contentious. sometimes it's called deconfliction. prosecutors do it every day of the week. now here, there's no indication they have. i think they're wary of it, because i think they understand that if

merrick garland or jack smith calls down to alvin bragg or alvin brad calls over to fani willis what's what's donald trump? you guys? ah, what's donald trump going to say? i'll leave it to you guys. donald trump's gonna have jim jordans issuing subpoenas. the first thing in the morning, but can we also acknowledge there is one thing that we haven't noted? which that the d a s office said that they because of easter and passover next week and ramadan and because a lot of new york city public schools are going to be having break its, they're trying to make it easier on grand jurors. jury duty in any way, shape or form is not a fun thing for the vast majority of americans. so you think that's true. i think there is an element of truth. and i think that they alvin bragg had wanted to. he could have plowed through, but i think it is a lucky bounce of the ball for him where he's allowed to, as ellie said, use this time to do it, and this was just already on, but he could have gone to them today could have gone time monday. he could have gone to them last week. i mean, he's been done putting in evidence for so i mean, he could call that rebuttal witness last week, pecker but there he could go now. he could go monday. he

could go wednesday. i think he's that break. your right was preplanned. so i think he may be riding that. surely this is the best possible result for this series of cases and we've talked about this before that, you know, not only is this kind of the weakest case, it's also the least significant, right? i mean, donald trump undermining democracy in georgia and on january 6th. these are incredibly serious charges, and they're important conversations for the nation to be having, and i think there is a sense i'm not minimizing the stormy daniels case, but there is a sense in which that trivialized really at stake. so for me looking at sort of from a almost an ethical point of view of the public discourse around this issue, it feels much better to have this conversation about the real stuff. not this distraction. i do want to say as someone who has had to comply methodically with campaign finance laws like i think we ought to be taking this prosecution very seriously to actually get frustrated when it's referred to in the media often times as an a novel legal theory. i mean, someone did go to prison and was, you know did plead guilty. that person being michael cohen over similar conduct, not precisely the same conduct but similar conduct. and look, i mean, we should not make it the norm in this country that you can you can violate campaign

finance laws that connection. in other words, you're calling it a campaign finance law, but that that's the novel part is having to say that this hush money payments somehow was connected to the campaign coffers or that it was about i mean, that's where my right yelling that that's not necessarily what this is it's actually fairly straightforward, so the campaign finance portion of it is him. you know, basically, it's going to help you hush money. to keep someone quiet. when that window disclosure of that information would have impacted the campaign , otherwise he wouldn't you know he would not have paid $130,000 to different people. by the way, it's not just for stormy daniels have melania not find out. but it wasn't that the novel part paying the timing of it is significant. it's not a john edwards situation who kept paying hush money. even after the presidential election was over. this was something that was timed around the time of the presidential election, and there's testimony to that effect . the factual dispute that will play out at trial, trump will say personal prosecutors will say political that what's novel legally is trying to charge.

this which is a federal president is a federal race the federal election laws over in state court they're going to have a real legal problem with that. okay excellent. thank you all very much. also tomorrow on cnn primetime former vice president mike pence is going to speak with wolf blitzer about being ordered to testify about his conversations with donald trump. that's tomorrow at nine, p.m. eastern, only on cnn. alright so gone are the days of waiting for a letter in the mail asking your parents is it thin envelope or a thick one? now it's college acceptance videos. they are sometimes posted viewed by millions, one student says. stop posting them. it's hurting other kids mental health. he's here next to explain. the universe, does it? big thing. wonderful pistachios get

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wow i like that. the mom was involved in that one, too. that's just one of the college acceptance videos to go viral. this week, of course, is the all important college decision week and many households. but in a new piece for the atlantic. my next guest says it's time to stop posting those college acceptance videos. joining me now is zach gottlieb, high school student and creator of talk with zach. zach great to have you here? why? why can't kids post those videos? first of all, thanks for having me and the problem with posting these videos is college is already such a stressful thing that teenagers have to deal with. and when you post these videos, i mean, it seems like everyone's

getting into their dream school . and it creates this false reality where a lot of these schools have, like less than 10% acceptance rates. but 100% of the videos are students getting in, and it creates this very skewed reality of everyone's getting into their dream school and it makes people feel who don't get into their dream school is really left out. that's really interesting. zach um i happen to know a little bit about this because i live with two experts. i have senior girl twins, who both just went through this very thing, and i asked them today tonight about what their thoughts are on posting this today made videos that were basically private, but for their inner circle, so they posted it on the people, you know, just their inner circle of friends. and what they said was that this is how they find out where their friends are going to school. they might not be their dream schools, but this is how they get their information nowadays. this is how they figure out how their friend who

they met at camp who lives you know, 1000 miles away where that kid is going to school. so what's wrong with it? just being your community bulletin board. the thing is, if you're doing it like that, if you're showing people where you're going to score, i think that's fine. like if you're showing your friends where you get into college, it's more when you're publicizing it beyond your own, join for people who want to find out because when you see these videos they have, like 10 million views, and it's random people on the internet. not people you actually want to hear from and like. if it's a friend. yeah. you want to know where they're going? and it could be any school. not just like the school that's insanely hard to get into that you want to go to so it's more like i think, posting it for your friends. that's great. it's a great way to see. but it's more like i take issue with when you're publicizing it when you're making it seem like this whole ostentatious event, rather than just informing people who want to know and what about the argument that you know there are

winners and losers in this college acceptance game? there just are. that's the reality. and so the kids who don't get into their dream school that they'll be fine. you know, they'll go to some other school. that's they're taking gap year. whatever that's life and for the kids who want to post this is the end. this is the culmination. this is the celebratory moment of the months that they've worked on trying to get in. it should really just be about your own joy, so obviously it is a celebratory moment. so celebrate for yourself show, like, have that for yourself, so maybe you could look back on it. but the thing is, our culture makes college this huge thing and teenagers feel like it determines how successful they will be how happy they'll be. so when we see these videos is not just about their winners or losers. it's like this affects me for the rest of my life, which obviously isn't true, because study after study has shown that where you go to college does not affect your future happiness. so it's really

just like if, um, like you could say, yeah, they're obviously winners and losers, but how the culture presents it. it can be really harmful for students, because personally i think you can make the most of college wherever you go so it shouldn't be framed as their winners and losers. but rather there's some people who go to their dream schools and other people go to schools that are also very good. and they will also have good life. so should it shouldn't be framed like you lost. it should be framed like you're going to make the most of this situation, and it will be a great experience for sure. and so, zack next year when you get one of those acceptance what are you going to do? so i'm obviously not going to make a huge publicity video about this and posted on tiktok. i might record one for myself just to see but i definitely don't want to contribute to this culture of college is going to determine the rest of your life. and i don't want to do this thing. i even see people like i didn't get into this. my dream school, but i got into this other like ivy league really tough to get

into school, so it's really just going to be, um, a personal thing for me. i'm going to be really excited about where i'm going to go. and if i don't get into like my e d, a dream school, i think college is a lot like life. you make whatever attitude you have of it, so it's really just gonna be. i'm gonna make the most of it and i'm gonna have a great experience wherever i end up. want to check in with you and find out what happens next. zach gottlieb, thank q very much for your take, and my panel is back with me. we also have insider columnist linette lopez joining us great to see you, lynette. great to see you too back. what do you think? okay i have only ever seen one acceptance video, the one you just played, and i think people should stop doing it because that was corny. um the other thing i have to say, is what is the difference between these acceptance videos and somebody with abs taking a selfie and putting it on instagram? you know, like, i don't have abs like i want abs. oh all of social media is a land

where people are reflecting an imaginary best life. all of it and other people are coveting what they see. it is a push and it is a pool. the algorithm pushes things on us, but we pull things from the internet to what are you pulling? that's one question and to do you believe everything that is pushed to you? the question is, do we need to change the culture of how we look at college and what we want kids to say, or do we change the culture of how we think about social media and what people's lives are actually when they post you know? it's not real. that kid knows it's not real. he knows that a lot of kids who do this, they know it's not real by by making this by being so articulate about like, don't post your college acceptance videos he just like really upped his chances of getting into his dream school like that was a really good media. i was thinking that i'm like he's going to write a personal statement about his appearance on cnn. shoutout to zach. we're doing a great job jobs act compelling cases just shows the video. it's so true. i mean, harvard's going right now. i'm

sure so is this. what do you think i remember how excited i was when i got into my first choice school. my dream school, right? i called. my grandmother answered the phone told me what the envelope looked like, i think, opened it. still opening an envelope still in school. everybody here did everybody here have to open an envelope. i looked at an email. yeah i knew it. and i looked at it work what i had i had a job at a cafe in state college, pennsylvania at a place called the corner room. shout out to the corner room and i looked at it at work. then what happened? and everybody was really happy for me because you you yelped because i was so excited and like, no, i didn't put it on instagram, but i told everybody great. okay, so you've got like, you know you had your grandmother's instagram existed at the time. i'm sure i would have posted some heartfelt video of what i was feeling. in the moment, i will say as much as i feel for people who may not get into their first choice colleges universities, i do worry about

this generation and just the sensitivity to certain things. i mean, i want parents to prepare their children for the unfairness of this world. you don't always get what you want. and this and this is true in many other contexts, and i've just seen it in the workplace with with this younger generation, and i just i want to make sure that we are that we are preparing that we're toughening people up for the world as it exists. the last time i was on this program we talked about we talked about, uh, we talked about. oh, my gosh. it just so what did we talk about? we talk about what? i could never figure that out. we'll we'll see. i'm sorry. but hold that thought. yeah yes. first of all, when i got into college, i was at boarding school and my parents called me and told me and the way the school i was acted at that we would have a morning meeting every day, and the principal just said so. and so in the class of 2002 got into this school, that's it. and everybody

would clap. and that was the announcement. nothing big, but i worry these days. it's not just college acceptance videos. it's everything. as lynette pointed out, it's the apps and we saw in the tiktok hearings last week for getting the china stuff it was we had parents of kids who had committed suicide because of the way that tiktok is gamed the algorithm to really push unhealthy attitudes towards kids. they are now facing more anxiety, more depression, more isolation, and that's a serious mental health problems and asthma under said yes, we do have to prepare for kids to be able to understand what it's like to face setbacks when you fall down. the real question is how do you pick yourself back up? you think they should be posting the video? absolutely not. just do it in a low key fashion the way you're got it back. go we were talking about kids and how they feel about being kids, teenagers and how you know they just want to stay adults or they just want to be kids. they don't want to be adults. they don't want to deal with the pressure. part of the pressure of being an adult is rejection on a large scale and sometimes embarrassing yourself. like i just did on that.

remember what i was gonna say. sometimes you don't even deserve to get into your first choice school, right? like like even your first choice. it's also the it is so hyper competitive right now, particularly in this year, and the year before that, because of covid, you know, layover and all sorts of things literally. counselors say this year is the most applications they've ever seen. so sometimes it's not getting into school after school after school. it's pretty stressful for kids just about hurt feelings, either. i mean, kind of. you know what of my spiritual teachers round us, you know, says be here now. making this video is the opposite of being here. now. this is such an incredible moment. it doesn't need to be turned into a product. it doesn't need to be turned into like a way to get more likes like it's so it's a i do remember sitting at my kitchen table 865 years ago when i got when i got my letters. my top choice was a thin letter. so it wasn't so great. so but that moment of being present, you know, with your close friends and family or even a sex ed, maybe with your friends that you share it in a smaller way,

instead of turning it into like yet another commodity. okay, thank you. those are corny. hold that hut! corny to talk about this as we have been throughout the program, tech leaders are penning a letter. calling for a pause in what they described as out of control a i development that may ruin humanity who signed that letter. what recommendations do they have? what warnings do they have for the rest of us? that's nice. good morning. everyone so g glad you could join us. joining us now are two lawmakers from different sides of the aisle. people are hyper focused on two issues, inflation and crime. violent crime is up, governor. you can't deny that. i understand that. but let's talk about real answers. even when you disagree with people. if you stand for something, they have great appreciation for that. every reporter in washington wants to know. are you going to extend the debt ceiling? that's a very good question. cnn this morning tomorrow at six eastern from tried and trueo try

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months, but with chat gpt already being used in a i generated fake images spreading online. is it too late? i'm back now with my panel, uh, when they speak about this, and about it being really worrisome to them, i feel like we should listen. here's what some of the letter said. we must ask ourselves should we let machines flood our information channels with propaganda and untruth. should we automate away all the jobs, including the fulfilling ones? should we develop nonhuman minds that might eventually outnumber, outsmart obsolete and replace us? should we risk loss of control of our civilization? such decisions must not be delegated to unelected tech leaders. i feel like we should heed this morning. i think we should heat it and then some. to be honest with you. a i is eating, you know, leaps and bounds and technology for us. think of the invention of the abacus or a semiconductor. they helped us to calculate they didn't start being able to create their own ai code like a

i is becoming able to do a i is going to become self sufficient. and i don't mean that in a sci fi wait. i just mean it in a reality way. now what happens when a i comes in? it's going to change the world economy. it's estimated that up to 25% of all jobs in the world could be replaced by a i do you understand the economic displacement they would make the great discretion looked like a tiny little bad day on the dow. i mean, it's so terrifying and let the same time we haven't planned for it, and we have to really start having government regulated. it's like nuclear weapons except with nuclear weapons. it was done by nation states and their nonproliferation treaties. but this is democratized where it's you in your basement can create a i and it can run like wildfire and we might not be ready problem. the people in washington are still trying to figure out how to take their venmo transaction history offline turn their read receipts off their iphones. so i understand the idea of a six month moratorium on technological development, but that's not gonna help washington

get up to speed. i talked to insiders in this game, and they're hoping that the eu can keep up with what's going on in a i development america can. the eu has to lead the way while they seem to be leading the way in terms of tech? uh, the all of the regulation that has come down in the big tech companies agree in the lead here and again. washington. not great with self six months is not going to solve the problem. six months is an arbitrary number you say you don't mean in a sci fi way when you say self self sufficient, i actually do. i mean, my favorite movie is t two. judgment day. right terminator two. judgment day. we all remember that when the machines became self aware, and there's already been some indication that these these machines are doing things that they were not programmed to do yet, and so i do worry about the complete absence of national and in fact global standards that would govern the way artificial intelligence is created and used

. what should they be doing younger people to congress. first of all, but but but also we should be having hearings on this, and we should be very seriously thinking about how to leverage a moment in which you've got technologists and entrepreneurs like elon, musk and others who are saying yeah, this concerns me as well so use that energy that existed at that isn't always there for people who are just trying to make a buck or billions of dollars. um and get ethicists in this as well because there are a lot of ethical implications. moral questions involved in this isn't there a question of also of who is the we right? so that statement uses we should do this somehow, i don't feel like the libertarian tech bros. who signed that statement really think that there should be congressional hearings and government regulation. and even if there were congressional hearings in government regulation, that's the united states. maybe the eu but what about china? what about russia? what about other countries? where if we don't move ahead in our ai development, they are going to move ahead and they're they're a i development and it feels to me like i don't i don't

necessarily say that the concerns that are being voiced are incorrect. i think they are correct, but i'm not sure who the we is. who can put this genie back into the bottle. so what is the answer? so i think you know it's interesting. so i'm friends with a lot of ai doomsayers who have done a lot of really good work on this actually, the effective altruism movement, which gets maligned sometimes actually has done a lot of really good thinking about about a i risks and a lot of the risks earlier more about like the sorcerer's apprentice, you know a eyes that replicate themselves, not in a sort of terminator way, although i also like that movie, but just simply making more stuff and doing more stuff and optimizing for the wrong things, and it feels like there might be a way to have something that looked a little bit like the early standards of the internet, which we're also global and which also took a lot of private actors really acting together because i agreed, like these members of congress. i mean, i feel like every time i watch that tiktok hearing it was like helping my mom plug in her vcr. it's like this disaster. maybe there's a way for people who are actually involved in this work to set standards that they all agree to stand by and

then basically segment or ostracized. those who don't agree to those standards is one bit of non doom and gloom very quickly, which is that it can actually alleviate some healthcare or problems. in the united states. one of the we have a health care shortage of doctors and health care providers and one of the things that doctors do that is really tough for them. they spend 2 to 3 hours a day, taking notes and writing down patient notes. and there are companies out there that are using realizing a i that listen in on an exam. it's all privatized. it follows hippa and it writes up and edited a draft for the doctor to review and if we are able to do that doctors get more time and we remember we're because i mean older as a population and we're gonna have an elder care crisis. this will help to alleviate it. i appreciate you bringing in the good thing about a i because it does sound good. thank you all very much. all right, stay with me. because this was day seven of gwyneth paltrow ski collision trial. her defense team this day called a series of doctors to the stand. we're gonna let you know what they said next. get

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on narcissism and specifically the pattern of his responses within that category suggest somebody who might be, um. feel that he is superior. um he may feel that he lacks empathy. i'm back with my panel. guys, you hanging on every word of this trial. i think i'm the only person but maybe, like the lynette people need to send each other a fruit basket. actually super into this trial. i was a skeptic when we were first covering it on the show, and now i'm all in. i think what's turned you really interested? i'm not particularly interested in the outcome of this trial. but i am really interested in the way that we make myths and narratives out of things like this. and so is this the sort of narcissistic celebrity whose callous and who heard this innocent person that's a narrative right there and then or is it the you know the gold digger? the opportunist is going after the big money day. and i'm really interested in what the biases and sort of prejudices are that that we import into

those decisions those decisions and i think i am on kind of team. gwyn isn't which is also a great hashtag, by the way. uh on the facts, you know, as a lawyer when i look at it, and i did learn in preparation for this that the vast majority of ski accidents just go to who was uphill and who was downhill. the uphill person always leaves of the hill. kind of gravity always wins. as radio had said, and i feel like that's kind of the it does seem as though all of the data is on the gwyneth paltrow side of this, but i'm really i'm actually really interested kind of from the rabbi. point of view in the meta discourse about this and in how we reach these judgments of who feel is innocent or who feels like what you're saying about this j because it is the archetypes, so we do respond to different archetypes. and so one is what you're describing the narcissistic celebrity versus um this. what were you saying? money grabbing. these are two of the narratives right either. this is an innocent person who's been you know, severely injured by the celebrity or this is and these are these kind of myths

and stories that we take in absolutely also david and goliath, like if you see him as the little guy and her as the big celebrity, and that's what the way his lawyers are trying to paint. it is. how many times have you talked to taylor? swift you know, in the past month, they're asking gwyneth paltrow as though that has anything to do with skiing. but in any event, it's just interesting. also to watch a celebrity have to go through the pedestrian experience of being sued in court. like any of us, you know, might if we were shows this battle, right? she is clearly very wealthy. obviously if there was any doubt in her and her attorneys mind she would you settle this? you make this go away. you don't do this, either. she wants the publicity or i think she thinks she's actually innocent and she's going to going to the mat on this. some of the publicity has been pretty bad for her. just from a fashion standpoint, in an image standpoint, she looks fabulous. she's wearing glasses and ted bundy sweaters. but the person who actually comes out looking worse, and it's not going with paltrow. it's the plaintiff's counsel. i've worked in the judiciary and i have no idea what she's doing. it's a terrible higher by this

plaintiff because she was sucking up and being friendly. oh, yeah, playing compliments. no you're there. you're there to try and advocate on behalf of your client. this is just stunningly bad leader. she's being regina. george that's what's happening like gwyneth, the aura of gwyneth and of her cool girl ness is just astounding. it's overwhelming yourself. whelming her attorney . oh, she was like when it was like i like your shoes and she was like, oh, my god! gwyneth legs, my shoes. it was it's not . it's not great for her, but i am quite it looks great, and i hope these rich people can work it out. okay, well, interestingly, we heard from gwyneth children. today um her son, his name moses. so here is the defense attorney asking moses a question. let's look oh, it's a standard. it's a standard for us. so somebody just reading the oh, okay. it's to this. this is fascinating. so moses didn't

have to take the stand, i guess because he's perhaps a celebrity's child or a minor, so it's somebody doing basically a dramatic reading as i sometimes do of courtroom transcripts of moses is responses to what he saw on the slope that day. so let's listen. when i skied over, i heard my mom yelling at the guy. what was she saying? she was saying something along the lines of what? the f word you just ran into me. and anything else that you recall at that moment. no. was she standing up when she said that i did not fully remember, but i believe she was on the ground lying down. okay that was awesome. i've never seen that in a courtroom where people do people play other parts. other roles there like a stage reading of the opera, like the music hasn't been finished yet, but we've got having done a trial before i can tell you there was probably a lot of argumentation over who would be allowed to read that yes, would play moses. yes yes. one of my friends told me that

this man who is suing gwyneth now says that he has multiple personalities, and it seems to me that one of those personalities wants to be famous and that's where we are right. i hadn't read of that. i thought that that's what i heard. that's what i heard in the transfer to see him as a sympathetic character very hard. you know, they're both wealthy right like and these are folks who slope. you guys. come on, work it out amongst your cycle can't go to wine tasting detail. let's play this. the man who's suing, um grant paltrow. his name is mr sanderson. let's play this. i think we get to see him. well that's the purpose, i think is to make me regret this lawsuit and that it's the pain is trying to sue a celebrity. it's just very difficult. i will tell everyone that you're gonna get exposed. we're not talking about this case. now he's talking about the world. sustained as to the generalization. was it important to you to bring this

lawsuit? it was. i felt like i was sure reace lee injured. and then i had so many insults added that i think, as i said the other day, so many insults added to that and layered on okay, so there was testimony that he had changes to his personality, not multiple personalities. i'm trying to avoid mr sanderson suing you, right? okay that's what i'm trying to clearly interested in doing that. i don't have i have. no, no, i have to wrap this up because we have to talk about naked dinner party. we were trying to extend this segment. we're not. you're not avoiding a naked dinner party. that's what we're talking about. next how many have you been to? we're going to ask our panel. there are real things they're happening. we have the pictures to prove it. hmm. globally competitive, brbrother check s safe and i'm about to

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questioned the whole idea about serving like hot pasta and other read you the menu. here it goes . this was one of the recent dinner parties, carrot and ginger soup. quinoa stuffed bell peppers, cal raspberry avocado mousse. so like a lot of a lot of jewish people are cleaning up for passover right now, and like crumbs get kind of everywhere. and when i think about quinoa and the naked dinner no. yeah, that's unacceptable issue. never been invited to do any like group naked things by anyone i would want to see naked ever in my life. it's always somebody that i'm just like no, not you. not your friends. you are getting a lot of naked invitations. just not from people you want to york city. you know, people invite you to all kinds of crazy stuff like a nude beach. it's not what you actually want to see when you ramble down one of those, you know? no, no, no, you don't. i want this had fund manager once told me never go to a fight. you're invited, too, and i think it's probably the same thing for

any naked part of congressman how many nude dinner parties have even took zero. are you just trying to run for office again? i think people are bored. people are so bored and i feel for those people. this is not the way the answer. uh evan, you've got nine seconds. how many new dinner protests have been a nun, but it would depend upon if it's a michelin starred chef or not, and on the bright side, if you still red wine, you don't have to take anything to the dry cleaners. that's a great point. my god. good thank you very much. you've made excellent points. alright tomorrow on cnn this morning has america's tipping culture gone overboard? and what about the new dinner? the new numbers and challenges facing you at the checkout counter tune in for cnn this morning starting at six a.m. eastern. only here on cnn, alright, thanks for watching everyone you can find me on social media if you want to talk more about this at allison camerata coverage continues.

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