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related to covid. it's unclear the leader of the world's nearly 1.4 billion roman catholics will be able to lead the celebration of this weekend's palm sunday mass. and holy week ceremonies at the vatican leading up to easter on april 9th. the news continues. cnn's primetime with katelyn polantz starts now. tonight morning in nashville, a grieving city honors the victims of monday's tragedy just two days ago was our city's worst day. details emerge about the shooter's background. the suspect was under doctor's care . anything explained this senseless act plus taking a break. the manhattan grand jury investigating former president trump set to pause for almost a month. this is a very unusual development in washington to federal probe steamroll ahead. the former vice president is ordered to testify in the january 6th investigation. obviously have nothing to hide, so will he comply and urgent warning. the biggest names in

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wrong. the investigation. police said today that the 28 year old shooter is believed to have had some sort of weapons training enforcement is still working to determine where and when that training may have taken place, as they are also coming through the killer's writings looking for a motive. as for warning signs police are saying this today. the suspect was under doctor's care. for any emotional disorder of some type. parents felt like she should not own any weapons. that was it enforcement was never contacted. she was never committed to an institution. so that's basically that's where we're at right now. for the very latest on this i want to bring in cnn's shimon prokupecz german or hearing that law enforcement was never contacted, but we are now learning more about some weapons training that the shooter might have done. what do we know? certainly they're trying to figure out because when you look

at the video from the shooting, it appears that the shooter has some familiarity with the weapon knows how to use. it seems to be not so erratic with it more in a targeted way in the way it's being used. so that is something that there's certainly a thinking perhaps, is why they may have had some training, the other things certainly digging deeper into this person's history. the background. what exactly did the family members? no i know, police today said. the chief said, look, we believe the parents when they say that they were they didn't know the guns were in the house. but i think more needs to be learned about this person's history. what did friends know? what did others know about this person and also the weapons? when were they purchased many of them to seven weapons? seven guns? seven firearms to be purchased? you know, over what time period. we don't really have that kind of information and certainly think it's something investigators are still trying to figure out. but i do think in terms of the shooter, there's still a lot more to know because there were warning signs. and there were

friends who knew things. and what did people do with that information? it's really important because there is a question about the mental stability of the shooter. in this case, i do want to ask you did such great work deep diving into every detail of what happened in new body and there? we have to wait for the videos to come out here and nashville. we got those videos seemingly almost instantaneously. as soon as they had him. we seem to get them. first of all, why do you think that is? and second? can you make any comparisons to two between what happened with the police here? and of course, the all the mistakes made. and you, baldy? yes i think the one thing with natural it's a bigger city . they understand the need for transparency. they understand the need for us to know for the public to know they came out very quickly. indicating they had nothing to hide that they performed well. they thought they went after the shooter. they took the shooter out, and they just felt like they had nothing to hide. the comparisons here are disturbing, you know, i mean, i don't know the first things that i saw when i saw the

video and how the officers went in, um they were organized. they were talking to each other. they said go, go, go, let's go. i need three. almost immediately. they formed that team. they went to the door. they went through the school. they looked through doors. they went through the hallway. a found the shooter and they killed fearless. they were fearless in the way in which they approached their task and i can't help but think if we hadn't had such an examination of the facts of vivaldi, i'm sure that factored into their training like sarah. i was thinking about the release of the video as well. but i wasn't thinking about you volley. i was thinking about memphis and tyree nichols because in that instance it was a three week delay. and maybe shimon, you're right that if the cops feel like they've got something to be embarrassed about, will be a delay. but let's hope that this is the model. you immediately put that videotape out. whatever it might show the learning curve is now flattening, unfortunately, but it's tragedy after tragedy after tragedy, the lessons learned are costing people their lives. and we hope that the training that takes place to actually have the

opportunity. you know, i had to say we're focusing on obviously who knew what when and who facilitate etcetera played does speak the fact that we're no longer looking at our legislators in the same way we're saying who else should have done something about it was the law enforcement with the parents comparing, of course to the ethan crumbly situation in michigan, where his parents are going to be tried for involuntary manslaughter. that was a minor, though, so it's a little bit different than 28 year old person, but still i think this shows a lot about you know every person for themselves , knowing that when you're looking for a hero, the old you know, mr rogers, look for the heroes. you've already showed us that sometimes you to look for the people who can get themselves out of trouble and look for the heroes occasionally , but people are also looking at themselves and trying to get free trying to have the change is no longer you know, try to find a hiding place now. it's tried to run. i mean, we're seeing in real time, all changing because of gun violence , not only the cops, i should also say the school response because when they arrive on the

scene, right, somebody's there to have a key to open the door, someone else to provide direction and they're being fired. upon it was amazing from a school perspective different than you validate where there was no school administrator to be found, and that's why part of why there was so much confusion and chaos because down to the key, the key they didn't even need a key in the end, but the police officers didn't understand how the doors worked in the school. but if there was a school administrator who would have said something to them now the door is locked from the outside. the gunman went inside , so there's no way the door was locked. and so those are the key things also, and what we're seeing is drills work. sadly you know, that's what happened in nashville. they drilled this. they went through this. what do you do? you go outside. you wait for the key. you give the key to the officer evacuate the other thing, i think sadly and there's a lot of controversy around this . but how do you make schools safer? you know in this situation, look, it's something people just controversy controversy with it, because no

one wants to make a school like a prison. i get it. i get it, but in our cities. of course they had that they have magnetometers. they don't have the same issue, though about the appearances of prisons that that's happening. this is something that you've all day they thought about they went and they built. these erected these huge fences all around. school campuses senses about 12 ft. or so i think, but you know, they went out. they spent the money and i don't know. is it ultimately going to prevent something from happening? probably not years ago. five years ago, i wasn't ready for armed officers on every school campus. to the extent it could be. afforded i've totally changed. i think somebody ought to be armed. in every school in america if it's possible, and nashville didn't have any security, they had no officers private school. they didn't have anything, but it's also a place and you talked about legislation you talked about. we no longer start talking about okay. what can congress you because that just seems to go nowhere. they do not have any red flag. red flag laws in tennessee. um we don't know if that would have prevented this, but that is one

of the things that people put forth in state legislatures to try. and make sure that people that have mental illnesses are struggling with problems that might be violent. don't get ahold of guns. never mind seven different kinds of rifle, three of which were brought to the scene, so i think that's an issue that everyone is talking about. but it's a holistic thing and into your part, michael, where you talk about, you know you've changed and i think a lot of people have changed us. what do we do? because everyone is looking for the answer is because legislators aren't giving the proper answers to this problem. and you think, lock the doors. well the door was locked here and they shooter shot through it just, you know, to bring this back to you, baldy . in a way, you know i was in. you've all day on monday when this happened and was with family members, and so it was a pretty tough time. but then survivors, one of the kids who survived her mother texted me and she said oh, was there another school shooting? i said yes. and i said this was in tennessee. she goes. yeah, and it was a private school, right? and she's like, well, now i'm not sending my kids to private

schools. parents are looking to places possible safe schools. they could send their kids and their thinking maybe a private school will be a safer place. well where is that's the horrible answer? nowhere is safe and the fact that parents have to consider that when deciding where to send their children and just remarkable you were there and you faulty talking to parents when another school shooting happened, shimon, though, really good reporting. thank you. thank you for that. alright also, tensions are running high on capitol hill tonight is lawmakers as we were just noting once again are facing the question. when is enough enough top democrat who is fighting for gun reform in a republican controlled house is here with us next? future is here. we've been creating it for more than 100 years. putting the most advanced technology into people's hands, generation after generation. tool after tool. again. and again, bringing you

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the financial tools and support to secure your financial future. that means a lot for my community and for every community. emotion was running high in the halls of congress today, with lawmakers arguing over how to address the school shooting epidemic that is now also claimed six more lives. on monday, democrats enterprising we were calling for more gun line gun laws tighter restrictions. republicans of course, said no way that led to this exchange that happened between republican congressman thomas massey of kentucky and democrat jamal moment of new york just off the house floor a few moments ago. they have control of the house. the american people need to know that they don't have to courage. to do anything to save the lives of children read some more time . look at the data. you're not looking at any data. lobby

saying, that's what clothes they're children are dying rolled children efficiently arming teachers. that's worth it. every school teacher i was just school counselor. i was a middle school principal. i was in cafeterias protecting kids every day of my career. there's never been a shooting, never shooting time. we've got guns here to protect us. why should have somebody to protect them? joining us now is congressman pete aguilar of california, who is the chairman of the house democratic caucus and makes him the number three in democratic leadership. congressman thank you for being here and i mean, obviously. there's often been tense moments in the halls of capitol hill. it's no stranger to that. but to see that moment today between thomas massey and your call your colleague jamal bowman. i wonder what you made of that. and this idea that if democrats could not get an assault weapons ban past when

you had both chambers, how do you get one now passed down with republicans in control of the house. well thanks for having me katelyn polantz did pass an assault weapons ban last year. unfortunately the senate didn't take it up. we have to keep trying the frustration that you heard from my colleague jamal bowman is the frustration that all of us feel that all of us as parents feel jamal was an educator in a private life. he spent time in a classroom. he knows these issues incredibly well, and i think all of us are just deeply frustrated. that republicans have spent more time in the house banning books talking about banning books rather than making our schools safer. it's just unconscionable that this continues to happen. we clearly have a gun violence epidemic in our schools and in our communities, and it's just continues to be troubling, but what we learned last year because we have to keep trying.

we have to keep working. we got the gun violence, the bipartisan bill out of the senate and out of the house and was signed into the signed by the president. we did that after parents made their voices heard after teachers made their faith made their voices heard, and after members of the clergy made their voices heard, that's what we need to do here. in these moments, there's a lot more to be done. i think the polling shows that americans want to see more done from the legislative perspective. i want to get your take and reaction to something that president biden said yesterday about gun laws. let's take a listen to that real quick. i have john before extent of my executive authority. to do on my own. anything about guns. and all you do. i can't do anything except david congress to act reasonably, representative regular. you've got republicans on the hill, saying we've gone as far as we can go with gun control, and we don't need more gun control and in another vein, you have

president biden saying, there's nothing more that he can do as president. do you agree with him? the president has exerted an enormous amount of leadership here with the executive order that he has put forward he has. he has taken some steps. he signed this bipartisan bill. it is on congress to change our laws, and that means republicans need to step up. that's just clear why we can't have a handful of republicans in the house. and a handful in the senate join us to have meaningful change in conversations about the assault weapons ban or universal background checks or a number of these other ideas. we should do it. and if kevin mccarthy isn't prepared to exert leadership to do it, then he should step aside and let someone else do it. it's just ridiculous that we have come to this place where seemingly house republicans. just continue to say that there's nothing to be done here

and again, they're willing to talk about ah, legislation that would affect our schools and taking the rights of parents away, but they're not willing to make our students safer. we have continually said we want to put people over politics. they can't even put kids over guns congressman it's laura coates. but of course to my children. it's just mommy and i have to tell you as a parent. we are really losing faith in congress . the ability to protect our kids who legislation and i'm wondering, you know for those of us, including that's everyone who really can't afford. to wait for bureaucracy to complete. are there some non legislative solutions that could be more effective? is it a matter of using that power of the purse or wielding more funding towards school security or investing in mental health treatment? what can parents look to outside of waiting for the halls of congress to stop? fighting. as

you as you cited. previously first of all i appreciate the question is apparent to the public school aged kids. i hear you and i understand these are conversations that happen in our communities and then my households and in my neighborhood, um, and it's something that continues to trouble me. but there there are steps parents can take um, to talk with your kids about this issue, um, demand action both from congress, but also from your state legislature, as was mentioned previously tennessee doesn't have um, red flag laws in place. there are a number of things that we can do to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have guns. that's fundamentally what we should do it expanded background checks, all of those issues should be on the table. congressman it's michael smerconish. i have a poll question right now on my website. and it asks people to agree or disagree with the following statement. america may

as well learn to live with gun violence because it's never going to change. and when i last looked a couple of minutes ago about 25,000 people had voted and it was running neck and neck. what do you say to the half who believe we're just going to have to learn to live with gun violence? i'd say that we can do better than that. we owe it to our kids were one of the only countries where this actually happens, um, where we need. we just fundamentally need to do better and is policymakers . we need to pass laws that protect our kids. but we should look at it. why this doesn't happen in other countries. it's only because of the historic presence of the gun lobby. and because these weapons of war we tolerate, um and it shouldn't be that way. but there are steps we can take. uh the house democrats stand willing to work on this

issue. we want to use every available tool we can to lift up the stories and find these solutions, but it's going to take investments in mental health. it's going to take laws at the local level and the state level but fundamentally, there are things we can and should be leading on here in the house, and we just aren't under republican leadership. yeah major questions about what that looks like going forward. congressman pia gillard. thank you for joining us. thank you for your time tonight. thank you, caitlin. watch underway in new york. this can be a very long easter for former president trump will tell you why and later, a man who just seems he can't seem to get enough of the maga mania. you can often spot him at trump rallies amid the sea of red hats. the comedian and daily show vet. jordan klepper is here. promise you you don't want to miss it. own a small to medium sized business.

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hide. let me say again. i'm very pleased. that the federal judge recognized and agreed with our argument. that the constitution speech into break clause does apply. to my role as vice president and his president of the senate. cnn's kara scannell joins our conversation care. i think i speak for everyone when i asked what is going on here with the manhattan pro, because last week everyone was bracing for this to happen. now. we're told we may not see anything until the end of april, right? i mean, i think one thing everyone has to remember is that this grand jury is a six month grand jury and they've been seated since january. but that doesn't mean we're going to go to june, but it also means that there's not an immediate deadline for this. what we have seen is that they have brought in. you know, this is the hush money investigation. there are just a handful of people that really touched the facts. in this case. we've seen them all come in over the past several weeks. this grand jury meets mondays, wednesdays and thursdays for just three hours each of those days when they're sitting, and this isn't the only case that

they here, so we have seen a number of witnesses. come in. there are all these indications we're getting towards the end of this investigation. there was the requirement or new york law to invite the former resident as the potential defendant in he declined. they brought in a witness on his behalf. and then just on monday they brought in david pecker, the former publisher of the national inquiry as a rebuttal witness, but there is not again in immediate deadlines. so the d a . alvin bragg. you know his office can discuss this again. debate this. this would be the first time a former president was indicted, so it certainly is a weighty decision, a historic decision and obvious discussed. you know, there are questions about the strength of this case. and so it's certainly is something that they are, you know, debating not taking lightly. this is definitely a decision. they don't take lightly and they don't have an immediate deadline. but all of that said they are meeting three more days before they go on this break. they're not currently scheduled to hear testimony about the trump. destination but this is all the a brags prerogative he had any point can

decide that. if he wants to move forward, he can ask him to take a vote. that's the beauty of discretion. right? it's his problem do this. and, of course, the timeline that was imposed on him was from somebody who obviously had an incentive to try to create a timeline in the front work president but talk about the timeline. do we know anything about if vice president mike pence is actually going to appeal a very consequential decision that says he's going to have to testify. and we're all kind of color coding. every investigation here. not respect to that with respect to the idea of what happened around january 6th, right. i mean, so pence today. i mean, he kind of said he's going to discuss this with his lawyers can make a decision. i mean, you know, it remains to be seen if he's going to do that, but certainly was we see, you know. for politicians and in other industries, people sometimes want to be forced to go in and do it because then they have the cover for it right , so we'll see what pence is going to do here? donald trump has lost a number of these executive privilege battles with his white house counsel's perhaps abalone, pat philbin and

also with market privilege. right exactly, i mean, so he's back to trump for just a moment. it's possible that alvin bragg has been backed down by donald trump. that's a possibility. it's possible that alvin bragg is now slow walking so that jack smith, the special counsel who's in a sprint can catch up. that's a possibility. is it not also possible that there's been a vote and there was a vote taken to indict donald trump. but it's under seal, and we just don't know it. i mean, from what we get from our reporting, there's not an indication that has happened, but you're totally right. i mean, there is definitely this is all secrecy. there's a lot that we don't know. we just learned things from pounding the floors and walking the halls and trying to figure out everything that we can. you know, that is always a possibility or impossibility. of course, that they took a vote. it wasn't favorable and they're going back to the sandwich. i know. look sandwich part part, but remember, stands out. the grand jury is supposed to be secret. and the reason you can

indict a ham sandwich because you've got many bites at the proverbial sandwich, right? you can go back to your grand jury and say you know what? your vote was this and so what did you need to hear from me in order to get it over. are there and so you can invite them to ask more and more questions, and that's part of what you can do. i'm giving away some secrets here in the grand jury, but the idea that it's secretive is actually a good thing that you don't know all the answers because how it's supposed to be in this void is what you see. former president trump kind of, you know, attacking brag, raising questions, putting into the conversation that he's got cold feet when we don't have any indication, outwardly that that's happened when they had david pecker in yellow testifies that lets you no, they are at the stage where they're yielding the floor to trump. is there something you want to tell us? okay they got to that point. it's as if closing arguments have taken place in a conventional trial. something's up here. this is really strange . that's what i want to say. well, i think what's interesting is they have costello in and everyone's thinking. are they going to bring back michael cohen? what are they going to

do? and you know, for those of us who have covered this closely? we thought it's going to be david pecker because he is where this began. he's the one that can say i was contacted by storming nails. i contact michael cohen. there was a deadline to get this done so he is a strong witness for prosecutors to set the timeline of saying, you know, this didn't happen right before the election. there was pressure on that. and to try to wrap it up, so i think they wanted to land with their witness. but it's a big question of are there more witnesses? what's going to happen? i just want to quickly say that this came up in 2018 just reminding everybody when the story first broke and what where are we now? it was january 2018. it's remarkable olive more weeks. we've it's been going on for so long. all this talk about a ham sandwich is making me hungry. carry scannell. great reporting, as always, thank you and make sure you tune in tomorrow because here at nine pm wolf blitzer is actually going to sit down. with former vice president pence. maybe ask him some questions about that ruling . we're waiting to see if he'll appeal. it's an exclusive one on one interview tomorrow night and

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alvarez at the white house, and this is cnn. donald trump may have been a declared candidate since november, but he actually didn't hold his first official campaign rally until last weekend. tonight. we are lucky enough to have with us at our one of the table at our table, one of the continent chroniclers of trump rallies, jordan klepper , who is a daily show contributor on comedy central, he's actually going to guest hosting the nightly broadcast the week of april 17th. but tonight he is here with us at the table for those our audience who might be a little unfamiliar with your work. i want to show them some of what you do when you go to these trump rallies. donald trump is our first rockstar superhero president, the most beautiful thing i ever saw. thousands maybe a million people. gathered so quiet. it was a peaceful rally. january 6th january six. who votes is

how many people are counting the votes, but we need to get the right people counting the votes because that's why donald trump got screwed out of last year. donald trump is president right now is currently the president. absolutely it doesn't matter what he says. i love it. i love being here. we're gonna love hearing what he has to say. but this isn't a cult. no, i don't think so. okay so you go to these rallies. you talk to those. i mean, i've been to a million of these myself. people line up for hours. they wait when it's 12 degrees outside. when it's raining, they don't care. they wait and trump does pull a lot of people. have you noticed anything different in the in events? trump events last week you were out here in new york in manhattan, manhattan was very different. trump said. he was gonna be arrested. his wife, donald, trump said, come take our country back. i'm going to be arrested on tuesday, and it was in new york, and only five people showed up so that was different for a trump event again. it was new york. new yorkers got better things to do

than wait around for trump event. even the super maga folks have to pay rent. so perhaps that has something to do with it. but even even the d n a. of the trump excitement is still within those three folks address up. they're going to deny that donald trump isn't currently the president and they're gonna fight for them. so it's hard to tell for me this early on like what the size of that fervor is in the trump base, but the talking points are there if not farther along. fascinating. the fact that i mean sort of a man on the street. people know who you are by now, right? they know that you're going to likely talk about it and they might be made fun of might isn't quotation rights by the world about it. they don't care. they want to talk to you. they want to get their words and they have no embarrassment. they will say what they have to say. are you surprised after all this time, people are still doubling down right now. i mean, it's america. people want to be on television. they want to engage, and oftentimes people see me sometimes they yell, they scream. they want to interrupt. sometimes they turn turn around, run away. more often than not.

they want to engage. if they recognize me. they want to beat me in some battle of wits or they don't recognize me and there's a camera there and they want their point of view. heard old school daily show pieces. we talked about that you you catch them in an irony. they're being hypocritical. nowadays that doesn't exist anymore. there's not a hypocrisy when you're living in different realities. i ask you, do you do you prepare because you don't know what they're going to say. but you do know the script. you know, it's going to be something along the lines of what you've heard at every single rally. do you prepare your follow up? because you're very deadpan. i mean, it's as if you're me just a regular reporter asking a question you're not judgmental is all of that sort of planned in advance. oh, somewhat what they might say, because if you're watching fox news or o n or newsmax or reading the papers a lot. these folks are reading. that's where the talking points come from, and so what we do is we go on out there, usually with the game plan of topics we want to talk about. and we essentially debate prep we discuss ways in which we would ask follow ups in directions. we

want to take conversations. when you're out there. you realize a lot of these people aren't having these conversations. donald trump rarely got those follow ups, so they really get the debate prep on their own follow ups. and so i think the most compelling moments that i'm a part of our the ones where you're watching people in real time. develop answers that they haven't thought through a that he got 75 million votes. mhm fringe characters tend to be the ones who get the most attention on television. the 75 million don't look like what i'm accustomed to seeing on tv. i've got a lot of them who are a butter knife away from me in my life, and i think there's a tendency to take a look at the rallies and think that speaks to all those who went out and cast a ballot for donald trump. it's just not the case. i think you have to take that context, of course, but these are the people. donald trump's playing too. that's where the conversation is. happening and so he's trying to rile them up. i think it's not reflective of the people that i said what was that was that was a good turn of phrase, but i mean, that's want

you to think. thanksgiving thanksgiving. wow wow. okay, that is that israel middle of america stuff right there. yes so i don't know if they're a butter knife away or a whole dining set away. a i don't. i don't exactly know, but when i'm next to some people, yes, there's a much more moderate swath of people who don't believe or even look like the folks at a trump rally at trump rallies. place you go. you put your cape on. you scream as loud as you can. i think what is most compelling to me, though, is that's where policy is being discussed, and donald trump is taking his cues from the most fermented so they might not be able to knife away. but the person wearing a cape, he's paying attention to use that phrase 10 more times today looking for we are alabama minds more like a paper plate away, which i love and i am going to use that, but to the point of this people go to these rallies. they listen to trump. they internalize what he says. we were watching his rally in waco , texas, and that's where it was on saturday, and we were struck by how he started the rally playing this this song from the january six choirs, people who have been imprisoned because of what they did on january 6th.

and now they've got this choir. trump was asked about that, and this is what he said. like to be really beating taylor swift. by the way, i did. j six is beating . tell us, it's donald trump and the j six prisoners. the pledge of allegiance, itunes and amazon . wow billboard, which is the big deal number one, donald trump. so now i feel like elvis, making that comment as he is being investigated for what happened on january 6th. yeah. ah he's clearly very musically savvy on the eye tones, the billboards. i mean, i'm done being surprised by donald trump the fact that he's going to play a j six choir at his rally is part for the course if you went there 20 minutes earlier, ted nugent is saying horrific things. uh, that's what these rallies bring out in people. and when you're an internet troll, and you put up a rally to just

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like this, it's coming from people who are actually part of developing this does it concern you? it does. i think that balancing a i innovation and regulation is crucial for societal benefit. that's what chad gpt four told me, i should say, as a centrist radio host. if i want to look sweet, you ask . i said, what should i say? so do i appear as if i understand this issue now, let me tell you what i really think what i really think is it's too late, because yeah, that's i had to write it down and read from it actually wrote it down. um china, russia. are they going to play ball with whatever the regulation might be that elon, musk and company want to establish. i think it's too late , right? we've already shown our hand in terms of where this is all headed, and they'll never cooperate with what we have in mind from these messengers, though, in particular. i mean, these are people who theoretically are the ones who would have the most information and insight into what could go possibly wrong and that they are scared and thinking about as

innovators themselves with about always being on the forefront, always trying to push the needle and push it forward for them to say everyone you've got to stop . that's scary to me. but here, elon musk push like we have to be careful promoting right truths because that's my gig right now. everybody down its. it frustrates me that i have to agree with the sentiment of an elon mask and andrew yang and tv but it does feel like the horses are out of the gate muscles, one of the co founders of open ai, which is one of the most popular ones that has gpt chat, right, and so i did something similar to you. i looked up what you would sound like if you were reading about a i and i'm just gonna read the first sentence, it says. says here's what katelyn polantz would sound like if she was reading a script and a good evening and welcome to cnn. tonight we are covering one of the most transformative technologies of our time. artificial intelligence from self driving cars to digital voice assistance. ai is becoming more common place. i mean, sounds just like me. i mean, but i mean, it's closed. a i can do

is do it in her image and in her voice. imagine imagine, if in 2016 with the attempt at election interference. i think the successful efforts at election interference by the russians if they had that skill set, then holy crap. we would never be able to determine fact from fiction in an election capacity right now, even to be the most. i mean, ominous here. what if you have it successfully completely mind someone like a world leader, and they are able to get them to say something that then causes us to go into a kind of world war three or its equivalent, not just in terms of election interference, but even more than that, and what way do we do that, as opposed to saying jordan's think about this people say, oh, i'm sorry. i got hacked. it wasn't popular say that. oh, i got hacked there. that's not the thing you can do with this chat gpt or a i can also write code and that's where it gets really scary because it's gotten very good. in it. and when you look at the fact that they can write code, you want to talk about disruption.

imagine what it could do to hack into things. it's scary. next 10 contracts i sign will be written by chad gpt. uh i mean, it'll take over accountants and all the things you already skim and don't read. i think like those are gonna be created outside of your purview, and they're based on the laws of the internet. and last time i checked the internet, not the best college education anybody can get it's a messy place. if that's teaching my accountant how to do any kind of math. if it's teaching my lawyers how to create contracts were in for a world of hurt. there are perks to it. there are ways that could help. i was listening to this podcast earlier, we were talking about people who aren't you know natural english speakers, how it can help them if they're if they moved, and they're doing a new job, people assembling grocery list for kids with allergies, things like that. i mean, i also think you know lawmakers. we saw them talking about tiktok this week, not total confidence and how they would handle artificial intelligence. but we will see because obviously this is something that is being discussed. we're going to keep talking about all of this. and the developments in ai shortly

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figure. but even that, apparently in wisconsin is just too far. song that's simply about acceptance was too controversial for this town talent show in the superintendent said that they could not play that song, which is what was the ground that was based on well, the song was called rainbow land. i believe if you read the lyrics there, it's a pop song. there's not a whole lot of double meanings to it predominantly talks about accepting others who are different. from you, but that i think was seen as something that has perhaps two in line with the l g b t q cause and therefore controversial and shouldn't be played, even though it's a song that supposed to be about inclusion. you can see there. it's talking about basically making sure everyone's included and that everyone is involved and whatnot. what are we doing? can i say color? every hue was highly superintendent sighted policy 20 to 40. i read it. do you know what it says controversial issues are okay if they encourage open mindedness.

it would seem like that's this song. it absolutely is. and she's a national treasure and it i'm the same. i'm with you. it hurts my heart that dolly parton cannot be sung in this whole she should be on the news. she should be on the $20. bill what lessons for the one? i don't want to start something that i don't want to replace anything. let's create a new denomination and put dolly on the 7 2020 with harriet tubman. let's not go there, right? we're very clear about this, but i mean, what do you tell your kids like you can't talk about rainbows? like that. that's all gone. everything's gone. adults that have the problem, by the way, not the kids. it's actually pretty catchy song to jordan klepper, thank you so much. we'll watch your show when you are hosting thanks for joining us here at the table tonight. thank you all for joining all of us tonight. this is cnn breaking news. and i want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. you are watching cnn newsroom and i'm paula newton. we begin with breaking news outf