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plus buy now and pay overtime with a firm at birth .com. cnn presents a max original heaven's gate sunday at 10 on cnn. captioning is brought to you by audiobook network. others tell your story producing audio book with us want to earn more profits and find a new audience for your published book produced an audio book narration , production and digital distribution 38559. before we go tonight. stormy daniels is now speaking out about whether or not it was worth ever sharing her story. again. these moments where i get emotional i'm like i wish i had never done this. this is so stupid. what the was i thinking? but i still do the same thing because it was the right to do if i could go far enough back to where i did go to the hotel room that night. i stand by that i wouldn't have done it. but if i go back only
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so far is coming forward. i would i would do the same thing again. she says she would do it again. daniels has also said she is ready to face trump in court . if it ever comes to that. of course we shall see. thank you so much for joining us tonight. we had a great evening seven tonight with alison camerata starts right now. good evening, everyone. i'm alison camerata. welcome to cnn tonight. parts of new york city, getting ready for the unprecedented arrangement of former president donald trump. lots of places already under tight security, including trump's own trump tower, the motorcade route and the manhattan criminal court where we're told cameras will be allowed to capture the former presidents walk into the courtroom. so what's the timeline here? when will a trial actually get underway? we'll find out and the woman at the center of the case says she's getting death threats. stormy daniels says she fears for her own safety. the first time i was
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like gold digger sluts, your you know liar, whatever. and this time it's like i'm going to murder you. plus we'll tell you what happened during jury deliberations in the gwyneth paltrow ski collision trial tonight. i'll talk to one of the jurors and find out what convinced her that paltrow was not guilty and a new, particularly dangerous tornado watch in effect across the south and the midwest. tonight millions of people are under threat of severe storms and make sure you stick around for the end of the show. we've got our friday night quiz news quiz for you. you're going to test your knowledge against our panel. okay, but let's start with how new york city is preparing for donald trump's indictment here with me tonight we have former congressman john deere jones yourself. cnn's top law enforcement expert john miller, former senate candidate joe pinyon and senior legal analyst ellie honey. gentlemen. thanks so much for being here on this friday night, ok, john, i
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understand that there had already been something like 100. threats so far into the courthouse. how are those coming in or those online? what does that look like? so there's a number of social media platforms big ones like twitter, but then very specific ones to kind of the most very lint of the trump followers that talk about you know what should be done here. and that's being tracked where in these discussions there were something about 80 e five of these threats you know up at the end of last week. we're way past 100 now and they've increased in in kind of numbers and pace. police chase those down so you've got a threat assessment unit. they look at the threat. they look at whatever information they can on the poster and you know they're very good at determining although this is a bit of an art, not a science, which is it a credible threat? does the person have the ability to carry out the threat
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? is it a specific threat or a general threat? and then they've been them? these are threats against the d a. these are threats against the courthouse. these are threats against a witness. um and do that assessment and then send them out to the right agencies to say you need to be aware of this, but um, the balance that they haven't found any number of these threats that they say these are specific, credible threats that we're worried about , but that's why they tracked them. okay and so tell us about how we have now learned that cameras will be able to see the former president in process for some of these things, so there will be a couple of opportunities where you will. you will. if you're covering this see donald trump. one is his arrival at one hogan place the district attorney's office, where he gets out of the car and goes in with a phalanx of people. um and the other is after he's after he's arrested and processed. they will bring him through a warren of back
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hallways and elevators that are private. but there will be a time when he emerges into the hallway where that courtroom is located. and there is a short work walk from that door to the courtroom door, which will be the second time he's visible. uh we are still, um as a group of news organizations, including cnn, um, weighing in on the court and the office of court administration to allow cameras in the courtroom for the arrangement because the universe of that courtroom is about 80 seats, and this is going too far surpassed that in terms of press interest, public interest security people. so it would be a better way to make this a public proceeding developments. i think for today, so ellie, the indictment is still under seal as we know, but the judge has signed off on granting alvin bragg the d a. the ability to publicly disclose the indictment , so when will we know what's in there? so first of all, it will be interesting to see donald trump the person i'm interested in the paper. maybe maybe this makes me a nerd, but i want to
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see the indictment. the order that came out today and allowed alvin bragg to acknowledge that this thing exists to publicly acknowledge. yes we have an indictment. yes it's been filed . that's it. we will see it on tuesday. i'm going to be looking for a couple of things. first of all, there's two kinds of indictments in the world. there's the bare bones indictment, which just says the language of the statute the defendant honor about such and such a date hereby did conspire combined confederate blah, blah, blah bunch of legalese. you don't get that much out of that. then there's what they call a speaking indictment, which is narrative, which has details so we don't know which one it's going to be. and then the other big thing i'm looking for is. are these charges constrained to the financing of the stormy daniels hush money payments, or is there going to be a surprise in there? that's why i'm looking for. can we just take one second? john miller all week? this guy is a scoop machine scoop machine. we've also learned that he later you didn't you didn't ask me to say that. we also have learned that he's a lot like batman. he sleeps in his suit so he can just be ready for the action. yeah, i know it's amazing. just looks like i slept in it. that's not true.
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that's not true. alright joe your thoughts about what's going to happen next week. we'll look start off. i am not an attorney , but luckily enough. i was waiting in the wings. when the senior legal analyst for cnn, this guy sat in that chair. that's the harvard jd chair, another harvard jd there and he told us that the theory of the crime based on the information that we have at our disposal was either probably flimsy at at best, dubious at worst, that this effort to try to kind of bootstrapped his way to some type of felony was probably a bridge to nowhere. so that's not my opinion. that's the opinion of a harvard attorney who is paid by cnn. i will say this corroborate this. yeah you have used precisely those. that's not quite how i described to put it, but i m c at best, but i mean, there there are. let's be real here. there are legitimate legal problems with this with with the charging theory here that will be challenged very quickly. the evidence is look, never believe anyone who says anything is a slam dunk. um, but you know what
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the evidence is based on what we know based on based on knowing that michael cohen will be important there could be a surprise. but yeah, like this is not going to be an easy kid. this is what we call a triable case could go. either way. i would love to explore with you some of the challenges on this because we do have michael cohen, who has served time. for similar conduct again. not the same conduct. um i mean, it seems like the prospect the theory before you know, before i even seeing the actual indictment, which is going to be unsealed on tuesday is that they committed these campaign finance violations which are in and of itself, crimes and then concealed them, which is a crime under new york state law is what's going to be difficult to prove about that. so two things first of all. with the business records. it's the falsification of the business records. it's not the hush money payments. there is plenty of evidence that the person who put together the structure of this deal is michael cohen. starting with the tape michael cohen made of his own client. by the way, kids do not tape your own client that is bizarre behavior. but in that
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tape, donald trump's just saying to michael conan, how are we going to do this? and michael cohen says me and alan weisberg will handle it. so that's gonna be a problem. the second part of this and this is the legal problem. this will be the lead motion that will see and we heard trump's attorneys. today, talking about motions they're going to argue that new york state law cannot incorporate a federal election violation race for president and the law is not good for the prosecution on that, so i'm interested to see if they're going to walk into that and hope they farewell on the appeals courts or if they have some way around it. does that answer your question is not about campaign finance is about this about falsifying the business records. the internal business record. of course, i mean, i mean, but but there's also substantial evidence that donald trump knew that the business records were going to be falsified, so i look forward to seeing the speaking indictment. it's difficult to believe that donald trump didn't know how these payments were going to be reported as legitimate business. different position that goes right to this point, which is ellie's point is
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you got michael cohen, your star witness who on that tape? sounds like he's he's running the whole thing. and just, you know, telling donald like we'll take care of it. the other point of view would be that donald trump is the head of this enterprise that's involved in multiple illegal acts and that this is one of them and that they are briefing the boss. um as you know, here's how we're taking care of this and he's not saying wait a minute. what do you mean? you're going to set up a fake company? what do you mean? you're gonna he's saying, okay, great. take care of it. at that point, he had known that he certainly hadn't been making those payments and filing them as legitimate campaign expenses. at that point, i just think to the point we're not actually going to have most american people. look at this and say you hire an attorney pay them a king's ransom to take care of the dotting of the teas and the crossing of the eyes. then that attorney effectively record it doesn't sound like he's trying to keep a record. it sounds like he's trying to have blackmail information information. and on
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his actual client for whenever he needs to use it. and when you look at the track record of michael cohen if they can't get it kicked on summary judgment, the first thing anyone's probably going to ask is were you lying then? or you're lying now. did you mean what you said? when you put those words down on paper and sand your name to it? or were you just trying to wink wink nod, nod to the boss would keep keeping the campaign coffers are full on your behalf, except we're dealing with donald trump right career criminal that even republicans don't doubt there is the phrase a career criminal because since they want people have assumed again, just a crime scene to get hanging out much evidence office. so look again. i get the point. i just think at the end of the day it's the we know he's guilty doesn't fly in the court, and it certainly is not flying in the court of public. don't i don't agree with attributing guilt to anyone without it being proven in court, but i do think that there is enough out there to give. certainly the grand jury having indicted the president, former president of the united states had enough evidence enormously. vary enormously
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complicated case because you start off with the defendant and says, look, basically, i was being blackmailed by two people had to pay them. we made them sign a nondisclosure agreement, saying they've never say anything. they took the money. they violated that now you want to put me in jail, so it's not an easy sell. it's going to be complicated. gentlemen thank you very much. i was supposed to wrap you minutes ago. but i was too mesmerized was to compares to compelling what you were saying. thank you very much when we come back the politics of the trump indictment what this means for the 2024 presidential race. plus millions of people across the south and the midwest tonight are dealing with severe storms, tornadoes, destroying everything in their path will go there live. uh oh. mm. he does it with a great fall. wonderful pistachios. get cracking.
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been hard to watch the opponents of him politically continue to break every norm over the last years to try to try to get him. here with me. former democratic congressman mandera jones, cnn political commentator s e. cupp republican strategist joe opinion and former tennis pro and jack of all trades. patrick mcenroe guys. thank you very much for being here. um how how are the prosecutors breaking every norm to with this indictment? i mean, i don't think it's norm, breaking the simply hold someone accountable , who is no longer the president of the united states, so he's no longer sort of you know, immunized from a from a case being brought against him. i mean, we, in fact, had a lot of notice that that this in so many other things that are even more significant would potentially happen. if our justice system we're actually works in and so far it is. look i share the perspective that this is not the strongest case against him. i would much rather the fulton county d a or merrick garland sometime ago have brought cases
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for significantly more serious crimes, but as someone who has had to comply with campaign finance law and is really proud of that compliance, i think we should take this very seriously . those laws exist for a reason , you know laws on books and record keeping exist for a reason. so i do resent that some people are trivializing the importance of the indictment and, of course, we haven't even seen it yet. i want to hear your thoughts, including what you think of what of ivanka's statement. well i don't know that we would expect anything other than supportive statements from the kids. you know, i get that, but let's be clear. trump broke all the norms. that's what's happened and we all in media and election politics in, um you know the law. we're all adapting and responding to all the norms that trump broke. that's not our fault, and it's certainly not the fault of the you know, new york d a who is
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responding to alleged crimes. i love that. he doesn't care apparently, um what? the political ramifications. maybe, in fact, i think he levied these indictments in spite of politics , because if you were really going after a political hit job, you wouldn't start with this when you start with something better, bigger, so i like that. alvin bragg has decided. i don't care that people want to see the perp walk, not giving it to him, and i don't care that republicans are going to be all outraged and offended and call this a political witch witch hunt. you know what sounds political when you call this indictment a political witch hunt when you haven't seen the charges that what that's political now you're just being a political hack. would you like to respond to that, joe? look i don't call it a witch hunt. but i do think that you know my study. buddy has left me right, but there are plenty of individuals with law degrees who are not republicans who are not conservative leaning who believe that based on the information
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that we currently have, and that the legal theory is challenging , but that's challenging that. sure political prosecution. i think, personally if you're talking about the department of justice that has declined to prowl charges if you're talking about the fcc, which has declined to pursue the bootstrapped version of what is going to proceed here? i think that it makes it very difficult for people not to look at this as they put some type of politically motivated, and in fact, the poll came out from quinnipiac. 63% of all americans believe that this is politically motivated. so again, i just think trump's doj that thought this was a crime in the first place. that's why michael cohen went to jail at the end of the day. i wouldn't read too much into what the fcc does because they can't can't count anything. but i just think that at the end of the day we should let the facts lead where they may we should actually be able to read the indictment actually be having people on either end of the spectrum, saying i know concretely what has happened here, but i just think that exciting violence right? but i think it's also disingenuous to
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simply say that any time republican says, i seem to agree that this doesn't pass the sniff test that they're labeled as crazy and then when we have actual certified bona fide legal experts, echoing some of those same sentiments, i think that that's different than what ellie was saying was that it may be a thinner, flimsy case is different than it was a political prosecution, but hold that thought. to find out on tuesday. what's in the indictment, and then we're all going to be able to make a i think a better assessment of where we're going with it now, as far as the jared and ivanka concerned i'm actually surprised we haven't heard from them at all. until now. you have your today were the big players within the white house. and then all of a sudden they sort of went to florida like we're out. we're we're not in the other thing i'll say is about mr bragg, alvin bragg, who i was lucky enough to actually interview on my own podcast was that like ago three years ago before before he was even, uh, in the position he's in now, your impressions. impression was that this guy's buttoned up i mean, there's absolutely no way
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having interviewed him for 27 minutes, i checked how long it was in my podcast that there's no way that this guy is going down this road unless she's got something and more than what some people are speculating that has, particularly on the republican side. he's got nothing. it's just, you know, paying off of porn star. something tells me he's got a little bit more. i don't tears and strike me as a guy that's messing around. ignore the fact that the grand jury trump. it's not just alvin bragg saying, yeah, let's do this grand jury indicted him on apparently more than 30 counts brags famously declined to prosecute donald trump for another crime that mark pomerantz has written a book about now, so clearly, he's not acting politically, i will say in full disclosure i've known alvin for over a decade, the name dropping at this table . it's actually my response. you know, you get in trouble when you don't disclose this kind of stuff. the guy hired me for an internship back when i was in law school, you know, he donated $100 in my campaign, i hosted a
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fund. razor for him, but separate apart $100 wow. but, you know, you know, public public service can't give in the way that people can. that's everything. every little bit counts. but look, i know him to be someone who is a very serious person who follows the facts and does not make political decisions. and i think we're seeing that play out racist death threats. i just want to put that out there. he's getting racist death threats because people have decided political hit job. i have to go guys, but a lot of people are sadly getting death threats connected to all of this, all right, we'll talk more about this, but we need to talk about our breaking news. severe tornadoes are threatening million fans of people right now across the south and the midwest. nearly two dozen people are hospitalized in little rock after a tornado rips through that city. we're live on the ground next. at t the end of the age, i'm afraid i feel is right upon us. this is considered a mass suicide investigation. never mind. t ando were the second comings. killing
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the damage. cnn's derek van damme joins us now live from when arkansas so derek describe what you're seeing on the ground there. well, unfortunately, alison, we are in that damage path that cut the town of wynne , arkansas in half. it was devastating to come across the scene. really as we drove in, we saw ambulances, first responders , emergency vehicles, blue flashing lights. we had our phones lighting up with tornado warnings. we heard sirens. it was very fluid, very dynamic situation, and then we got onto the scene. and what we've seen has been significant, if not catastrophic destruction. this is just a drop in the bucket. in what the town of wynne arkansas has experienced. this is when high school you can see it directly behind me, but i think we'll get a better perspective with this aerial footage. hopefully that we're showing on air now because this tornado tore through this high school.
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thank goodness that this took place after school was let out. you can see the football field has been literally ripped of its turf. i'm going to take you down to the ground because we were able to go about a quarter mile to my left shoulder into a heavily damaged neighborhood, and some of the homes were literally wiped off of their foundations. one home was completely shifted off of its foundation. we talked to first responders. we talked to some of the search and rescue crew, and they say that it is still ongoing. as we speak. one woman was saved from the rubble from her home. she's safe in it in a shed with her dogs, but they have also put green x's on each of the individual homes that they have been going meticulously through one by one to make sure that there are no people trapped inside, and so far they have rescued a few people. and we're hearing about the unfortunate fatalities coming out of when arkansas as well, i just want to give you an
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