saying ahead, protest mad. i'll cover your legal fees, knock these guys out and his rallies he's never been held responsible for. no, he hasn't and so this culture of intimidation and threat threats and violence is something very purposefully stoked and conditioned to this environment. for moments like this. another person who's getting death threats is alvin bragg, the d a. and one of the things molly as you know that they keep doing is trying to link him to george soros. so george soros is the a universal bogeyman for a lot of people on the right. and they say that alvin bragg was supported by him . they the truth is the two have never met. they've never communicated. they've never spoken on the phone, however. george soros did give to a pack that is a sort of social justice pack that contributed some money

. too many different campaigns. one of them was alvin brooks. yes as a jew, i've i've sat in horror and watch these trump supporters say like trump is good for the jews. trump loves the jews, and then you have people like trump invoking anti semitic tropes, right? you're bringing up george soros and you see the pictures? there have been a lot of, you know, social media stuff with the pictures of george soros looking terrifying and very, you know, scary and it's absolutely you know if you're invoking anti semitism, anti semitic tropes, you're an anti semite, and that's what's happening here. and you know you're going to see we've seen trump before invoke anti semitic tropes, and we've seen consequences that have happened in synagogues and it's very scary to me. friends thank you very much. appreciate all your perspectives. we have to get to this story. russian authorities have detained an american reporter from the wall street journal and accused him of spying. we have the very latest on the case for you next. when

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wall street journalist speaking out tonight about their reporter evan gersh kovic, who was arrested in russia on espionage charges. he's in a prison in moscow, a very notorious prison , one that has always had since the soviet times has had a very bad reputation and still has, but we haven't been able to reach him. we haven't been able to get any messages to him, and we certainly haven't heard anything from him. that's terrifying. it is terrifying. it's very it's very unsettling is particularly upsetting for his parents. who really what they want to hear is some sort of reassurance that he's not being mistreated. i want to bring in jonathan franks of the bring our family's home campaign . he worked to get trevor reid released from a russian prison last year. my panel is also back with me. let me start with you, jonathan. so you you have worked in this very dicey field. tell us what your thoughts are about

the situation tonight. well first of all i feel for his parents. i feel for him. obviously i mean short of taking a diplomat, i mean, there's no more dashes type of hostage taking and taking a reporter and i think, um, it is a reflection of, you know, frustration within the russian government it how things are going in the war. you know, frustration with the united states doing a pretty decent job rounding impression criminals and you know, apparently, yeah. they have lost a lot of spies. recently i read a report about that today, so i think that this is a sort of a combination of attention, seeking and tick for tat on their part nh it's shameful. i mean, it's obviously, as you say, so incredibly anxiety provoking for his family. where do you begin in terms of trying to get an american out of detention? i think you start by

opening a conversation. and if the u. s government won't do that, there are others who do governor richardson among them, um, you know, is dying, foley pointed out earlier this week. i mean, it's really hard to bring people home. if we're not talking to the people that are holding our people want to have my panel come in, and they can ask you questions as well. patrick your thoughts as you listen to this scene this obviously with paul whelan, who is still there. and then there was a brittney griner, the basketball player who, thankfully was able to get returned and to me and maybe it's not a coincidence that they just had their summit with china. okay that they're russia's doubling down on basically being excommunicated from the rest of the western world. essentially and this is highly troubling because you don't see any way that this is going to stop. they're just they're going to keep doing stuff like this. as long as there are people and we were just discussing in the break like they're actually reporters going there who would go there now realized these people are

trying to do their job. pretty scary. i mean, it is scary, of course, but reporters, often as we all know, put themselves in harm's way because we need the story from what's going on inside of russia, particularly because they're taking ukrainian children and their doing all sorts of things so they're doing, you know, incredible work, herculean work. but it's really dangerous. it feels like it's getting more dangerous than it is obviously for journalists. i'm curious to know what the next steps are that the american government should be doing so, jonathan, what are those? i think there needs to be a dialogue opened, um, with the russian government. that can be a little hard, but we've proven repeatedly with trevor reid than brittney griner and taylor. dudley um, own the past 365 days that it is, in fact possible to have a dialogue with the russians over prisoners and to resolve those cases they you know expeditiously it just we have to decide to resolve them, and it's always been my experience that when the u. s government really wants to resolve one of these cases it

gets resolved and doesn't get resolved jonathan through a prisoner swap. i am. it's certainly has been the pattern recently, right? i wouldn't want to speculate as this would be the one time that they would want something different, but you know, one can assume that they may be looking for another prisoner swap. um i think it's important to point out putin could have expelled journalists from russia. he chose to take this one. and i just want to note something that my colleague jason rezaian wrote at the washington post. we know jason was himself a prisoner in iran tried on erroneous espionage charges, he warns, um, in in this piece that the way we're framing it by repeating russian talking points, saying charged with spying is kind of being putin stenographer. it's a really interesting thing, because as journalists we want to say, well, here's what is

happening here is what russia is saying, and he's cautioning that that creates this impression that there might be some problems probable cause there and it's really it's a lie, and jason says. he is a hostage until proven otherwise. and that's what i think we all need to remember. as we talk about this, but such a smart point because americans keep forgetting we're in war. it's a proxy war, but it's a war nonetheless. and then war there are hostages. not sure people are giving putin the benefit of the doubt here. i mean, you say , i mean, like, just because we're journalists, right? he's being accused of espionage like you're saying, don't even say that. that's what jason's point is. i have hadn't thought of that. i'm a journalist. of course, i would want to say that his point is to lead with it. of course, you include it as you get there, but to lead with it really does, i think imprint in some people's mind? well maybe there's something there and we should find out. his point is there's nothing there and he's a hostage until proven otherwise.

and so go ahead. if i can. if i can add to it. i mean, it would be wonderful to have that lead be. you know, there's absolutely no evidence he engaged in espionage whatsoever, right? that would be a good lead and then way to report the news because there is none and i saw one piece i thought was really smart in the journal saying it one of his, you know. i guess greatest crimes or whatever was loving the place that took him hostage and that stuck with me. that's been true of many of my clients. jonathan you were saying that if the u. s government won't engage that, you know you you all know what to do. but why wouldn't the u. s government engaged on this? i am . i'm not sure that they're not . i'm saying that, um let's put it this way when i've had clients. in the past, these clients have worked with governor richardson. and then then that's not the accident. because he has a track record of success. okay here's a track record of success and

unwillingness to actually do stuff as opposed to thinking of, you know, of reasons not to do stuff that that makes sense. um you know, he is frequently on the front lines willing to have conversations and meetings that no one else will. jonathan frank's really appreciate your expertise in this. thank you for letting us know what's going on there. it's really a worrisome story. obviously, that we will stay on thanks for your time tonight. thanks for having me. okay so from the trump indictment to the gwyneth paltrow trial, it's been quite a week in news. it's been quite a month. i should say in the news that's been squashed into a week . have you been paying attention to everything that's happened? well, we're going to quiz the panel on what they know about this news cycle. but before that, cnn's presentation of hbo s over time with bill maher right after this. i'm eva longoria and i'm'm

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winsome irl series and the republican governor of new hampshire. christina knew what a line up here tonight. people want to know these questions that they write in. okay this is for governor sooner. what do you make of biden's decision to make south carolina the first democratic primacy right now? your governor of new hampshire that was always and still is the republican first and the democrats. i'm sorry, joe. we're going first. i don't care what the devil the democrat party doesn't dictate. who goes first. the state of new hampshire does no but that no, they did not not saying that the democrats changed. there's no, they didn't. they didn't democrats tried, but new hampshire is democrat primary will still go first, because again our loss says. we're going to go first. and this is biden's real problem because he's left a huge opening for someone to come into new hampshire campaign. they're strong with some name id and charged through a essentially by the way, south carolina doesn't have a first in the nation primary. they dictate. trump didn't have one in 20. they just said trump's the winner, so biden has effectively moved. the first nation tried to move it from new hampshire to a state

that won't even hold it. they'll just say you're the incumbent near the winner, so it's actually a horrible miscalculation on his part, but i'm sorry, joe, we're going first. okay now, so no. you announced on our show tonight that you're running for president again. it's all about the indictment. let's see what happens. let's see what happens. in essence he did. it didn't not until many words, but i did. my wife is texting me as we speak, okay? say it ain't so, hampshire. i mean, that's a wash for you because you're from new hampshire, so that primary is meaningless for you. because if you don't win it, then oh, my god, you can't even win your home state. and if you do win it, it means nothing. no, no. if you win, it won't. if i were to win, new hampshire would be. you're not. you didn't win by enough, and if you lose it, you're totally toast. it's actually a disadvantage saying, yeah, okay. now for you, lieutenant governor series. what's a realistic way to approach immigration reform? heavens how about doing it the right way and doing it the legal way. i mean, my dad had to wait in line. wait, his turn. sign

all kinds of documents. prove who he was. i mean, you gotta know who's coming into the country. we are a nation of laws. and if he had to do it, everybody's got to do it. that's the law. sorry, okay. don't apologize. that's the right answer. you nailed it. not apologize. okay um governor sununu. we should be doing we'll be doing more to secure our northern border to prevent northern underlined to prevent the trafficking of drugs. canadians what canadian very dangerous northern border crossings up 800. you know what 800% hundreds of thousands in just the last quarter from canada? yes so we're doing that kind of our part. a lot of the states are open. it's a very unprotected border. but it's nothing like the southern border. of course. but yeah, you have to protect the northern borders well, canada has agreements with about five different countries. you don't even need visas. think honduras, el salvador. they fly to canada, and then they walk across. we have him walking across through the woods in new hampshire longest border is with canada.

another critique of your state as as a primary state is that it's not diverse, so it doesn't really look like diverse look like america. we have the highest voter turnout in the country. south carolina's diversity look, south carolina has about 15% voter turnout. what's the point of diversity? if you don't let anybody vote? if nobody comes out to participate? we have rich. we have poor. we have black. we have white. it doesn't matter. everyone in new hampshire participates in the process. i mean, i'll put my diversity against south carolina's any day when you actually look at who's actually voting and participating. only black. you ever there is a bear. don't you? it's a very white states. no no, of course. oh, yeah, but that that's what is it about? participates isn't about actually having a primary. like i said the democrats likely aren't even gonna hold the primary in south carolina. so what's the point of diversity? if you don't let people participate? i mean, they say that we subvert the vote by asking people for an i d. they subvert the vote by not even letting him show up. i mean,

that's the reality you're you're facing here, so that's why we're the best at the first the nation primary. the high voter participation, the voter turnout, local control and here's the most important part. help you, billy. i'm not following this argument, but go ahead, shoot. i'm from massachusetts, and we used to refer to new hampshire as kentucky and new england. so that's really. that's not nice, taxachusetts. taxachusetts give me a break. why? why is new hampshire the fastest growing state in the northeast? come on, that's agreed with it. it's just that was what we used to say. bashir is now texting me. governor bashir is texting me. figure out what that comment. man peak caucasian. um perfect segue for this question. why was the public so captivated by gwyneth paltrow trial this week is the. does the panel think justice was served? does the

panel care said she said, yeah, i mean, really, you know what? people fighting it out? you know , i'm not in that. the only go ahead he wasn't orthodontist if i'm not mistaken, optometry, retired optometrist. meaning i you were like perry mason. i have the evidence and then nothing. what's the significance of that he was he was an optometrist. i think that says it all. if he was an orthodontist, i had terrible memories of orthodontist re as a teenager, like, like many of us have had, and i would have sided with her instinctively on that, but he wasn't an orthodontist. so it doesn't matter if you think she was inspired by johnny depp. no in this way. johnny depp was just not going to take it. he was like now we don't know what goes on in a marriage, although actually do not went into that marriage because they testify to it in court. you cute

bed, you know, okay. oh, marriage. it sounds great, anyway. but i think gwyneth was the same thing. she was like. this was only cost $300,000. she's worth million. she could have just paid it off. and she said, i am not going to let a guy just hold me up. i'm going to fight it. i'm you know, we just can't have this such a situation in this country, which we do have where people can accuse you of anything, and it's just easier to pay off, she said. i don't care if it's just $1 assuming she didn't do it. i mean, who knows what happened? there was no video. you know, we're a video society skiing. exactly i mean, i don't know who knows what into the other into each other suits. somebody else is america. we sue, and then we see what happened exactly. with a lot of credit. do you see? after the verdict came down, she went over pat him on the shoulder and said. i wish you well, boss move that is a boss move on her part because it basically says nice try. yeah when you win, it's easy to do. yeah, it's nice to be nice. i

mean, i've never understood her dollar skiing. you know, i would never ski, but it's stupid sport. you know, your friend. freezing more sweet than we tell you last week, i was shoveling my walkway and i got excited. i came out to california and you have a whole different flavor of snowflake out here. so i'm dealing with the snow and the skiing i'll bring. i'll bring your skin sometimes bearing that one. i was just gonna say definitely running for president. money he's even got comedy writers, working snowflakes jokes. i'm going out to california, speaking of which another great segway go. california governor gavin newsom announced that he plans oh, yeah. i read this to travel to states where freedom is most under attack. i don't know that . would this strategy help democrats? i don't know about the california legislature banned state money going to travel. two states that had so

called anti lgbtq laws so you couldn't have the sports teams. you couldn't have state officials going to other states that had controversial laws and just a couple of days ago, the one of the leading legislators who supported us said it's not working, and we have to repeal this because there's too much business going on across the country. we have to travel and it would lead to a civil war. i mean, if you can't even also making it very personal. remember the civil war? what it was called. the war between the states are making it very personal. between states like your state is. you mean hampshire? sure where you're going kind of purple now, right? i mean, it's a little more red than purple, but yeah, we always get stuff done, right? i mean, well, here's the thing he's talking about freedom, less states that are less free, isn't he? the guy who told everybody they had to stay home during covid, and then he went to some lobbyist dinner with what 25 of his best friends, so they were hanging out having a good time. this was the number one lockdown state. that's a true have a

mirror. oh, yes, he does, because we've seen his hair. gavin the knives are out. i mean , he makes it easy to take care of your own house. before you start talking about other people he owned that he shouldn't have gone out that shouldn't have locked down the state among the political peccadilloes. i put it about thousands down on the list. it wasn't it wasn't his finest moment, but really come on, if that's all you got on him about the schools of the millions of kids back to school about the businesses that you really want to call them on your side. life you know, with the kids, florida so you know, that's not gavin is quite long. okay you have time republicans would love to run against gavin. here's ticket. no, no, remember, i can't run. before anybody says anything about immigration again . remember i wasn't born here so you can't run tomorrow. and

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time. let's see what you and my panelists know about this week's news stories. now my first question i have to admit governor sununu just provided a spoiler. he just gave away the answer. but maybe maybe you guys weren't listening. maybe you were deep in conversation. here we go watching gwyneth paltrow say to the plaintiff, terry sanderson after she won in her ski collision case in court. a i wish you well be see you on the slopes. bless your heart. 123 oh, you all got it, okay, said i wish you well and he said thank you, dear. thank you. yeah those two kids can get along. everybody can okay. moving on. this week, 33 people were referred to law enforcement for a stealing flowers from the white house lawn be plotting a protest at a florida school board meeting or c harassing dolphins in hawaii, 123. let's

see. ah right. you watch the news man didn't hear about the dolphins that makes sense. studying up on trump you get that? don't turn over your thing until i say 123. okay it's very hard moving on moving on. jennifer aniston says a whole generation now finds friends a offensive. key relatable unwatchable 123. no that's good . all of them. good offensive. i kind of relate to it. but it still is unwatchable. got it. okay. next. food dinner experience spelled f u d e e with an, um lot is unusual in that a. the entire dinner is conducted in the dark. be all the diners are nude. or c. the

dinner includes a foot massage. one i don't i can't get you have to guess. oh no, only sc and patrick knows, dude in the nude . yes food food check before you go in that you're having the reaction that a lot of people had, like hot soup is also served. oh don't don't get their whistles don't get through wasabi. i hope that's not a bathroom. no one's allowed to use the restaurant. that's really gross. you have dinner parties. are they new? what what ? what did i will be will be now will not alright. just consider it okay. moving on. we have time. one iguanas taste for what left a young girl with a mysterious malady. a oranges be

cake seed grass. what did the iguana want to eat? 123 yes, yes! cake! the iguana. oh that's the girl, the girl. she got a bacterial infection on her hands with that about, okay, the cake getting out and this was by the ocean eating kids really were on the beach. so guys, what were our totals? i really need. i need 23443. for four to 1. wrong so you're three for 4 to 3, okay? that's awesome. thank you very much. you can now go on with your weekend. friday night lights we got friday night quiz right back. mommy. you need to deliver new a apps fast using te services you want in the clouds

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