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make on time payments. cf 30 point bump in their credit score , on average, download the app today bill were in antarctica and this is cnn. good evening tonight after a history making week, the latest on the history about to be made the former president's returned to new york next week to face criminal charges. there are many moving parts of the story tonight. there's the logistics the mechanics and moving someone under secret service protection into lower manhattan courthouse
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and through the process that criminal defendants experience on arrival, there's the security preparations well underway there. there's a possible legal maneuvering and motions before and after the arraignment on both sides, and of course, there's how this shapes the future politically, not just the middle of a presidential campaign, but also three other active criminal investigations of the former president. we have new details on much of it. also conversation tonight with ronan farrow was done so much reporting on stormy daniels, karen macdougal and how those aligned with the former president bought their silence. we've got reporters tonight on every aspect of the story. cnn's jessica schneider on the criminal justice processing and shimon prokupecz on the logistics and security and randy kaye on the machinery moving a former president want to start with jessica schneider. what do we know about about tuesday's arraignment? what's going to happen? so we've gotten some idea of the itinerary here? anderson we know that former president trump will arrive in new york monday that will be from mar-a-lago, where he'll spend spend spend the weekend then on tuesday. that's when he'll go to the courthouse.
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he'll be booked that will include fingerprints, possibly a mug shot. we know actually that he will not be handcuffed. then at that point, the former president will make his way into a courtroom in lower manhattan. it's all set to happen around two p.m. on tuesday. what's interesting here is that the media will actually be permitted to document donald trump's walk into the courtroom. to face. of course with our team has learned will be more than 30 counts related to business fraud. that's because cameras will be lining that hallway outside the courtroom, and then there's the matter of cameras in the court, so the judge in this case is still deciding whether to allow them. i will warn you, though, this is a judge judge juan martin. he's previously denied media requests in the trump organization trial last year, for example, he wouldn't allow cameras so it is quite possible. anderson will have cameras in the hallways but not actually in the courtroom. anything more about the indictments. don't yes . so it's still under seal. but interestingly this afternoon, we did get a glimpse of this case because the judge here ordered issued an order that allows the manhattan district attorney
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alvin bragg to notify the public that the grand jury has, in fact handed up that indictment against the former president. so what you see in this is it's actually captioned. the people of the state of new york against donald j. trump that's a little bit of a glimpse of how the indictment will be laid out. our john miller, of course, reporting specifically that there are more than 30 counts, all of them likely relating to how that repayment to michael cohen after he paid off. stormy daniels was actually accounted for, and all the charges that may stem from that, so we're we're likely to see a lot more of these details. once the case is actually unsealed, that will likely be tuesday and what's the latest from the former president's team? yeah they've been all over the airwaves and repeatedly vowing to fight this and in particular their promising to file motions to dismiss this indictment as soon as possible. at this point, the soonest would likely happen just after trump's court appearance tuesday. it's really though, unclear how quickly they'll be able to actually file because you know trump's attorneys. they still haven't seen this
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indictment and the 30 plus counts that it does contain. so a lot of questions as to exactly how they will maneuver this, but they are planning to swiftly fight this. they're saying the former president wants them to fight hard. jessica schneider appreciate it. now. the preparations in around lower manhattan not just to protect a former president, but to protect others from potential violence. cnn shimon pocahontas joins us now from outside the courtroom. so how is this going to work tuesday, sherman so what we expect right now, anderson is that for the former president to arrive here behind us, this is where people surrender when they come to the manhattan da's office. they walk through those doors, and once they are inside , they are considered to be under arrest. they are in the custody of the district attorney's office detectives and investigators there and as you can see, already, there is a police presence here. these barriers all across here and all across the street here, anderson , but what everyone right now is anticipate. painting is whether or not the former president here will come through those doors.
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ironically anderson interestingly enough, the same doors that steve bannon when he was under arrest and had to surrender. those are the doors. he walked by, and, of course, alan weiss silber, who was the former cfo of the trump organization. so interestingly enough that the former president could potentially walk through anderson. they'll same doors as some of his closest advisers have previously anderson in terms of public safety, what precautions are being taken in relation to any protesters who may show up so, anderson, i'll show you what's been going on here. i'm sorry i'm in the street here, but i want to show you there are these barriers that are all across here that line the street here on center street as well and they go all the way across here on center street. we've also seen court officers here already. today we've seen the nypd. they're out here as well. already anticipating providing security really just wanting to take every precaution possible to
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make sure nothing is left here in a sense that there is always this concern as we saw post january 6th pipe bombs, things that people left behind. this is something that they're concerned about. so we're seeing already the nypd out here. there are some cameras that the nypd has been out here so they can monitor who walks into the courtroom, but certainly there will be more security as we approach tuesday, also the courthouse now under 24 hour surveillance, the 15th floor where the former president is expected to appear that is shut off to the public. so already inside the courthouse, court officers and security staff here taking those precautions. anderson there have been a lot of talk yesterday about sort of underground tunnels in this part of manhattan. they is it clear that i'm there. he's being brought in on the street, or do we not know yet? it's not entirely clear. we've been hearing different things, but certainly when you surrender here at the manhattan d a s office does are the doors that
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you walk through? if they say a if what they say, is that trying to keep this as normal process as they would for any other defendant, then you're supposed to walk through those doors if he doesn't walk through those doors then it gives the impression certainly that he's getting special treatment. of course, the secret service is concerned about his safety and getting him in. but you know for the district attorney's office. they want to make sure that this process goes as it would for any other defendant, so normally you would expect him to walk through these doors, and i know there's a lot of talk of other ways in there is one other way in there. anderson that's around the corner that he could possibly go in, but we would be able to see him there as well. and there may be one other way where he'd have to go through. but that that's through the jail that's attached. to the courthouse, so we'll see what happens here on tuesday. anderson appreciate it. thanks, mar-a-lago. there are procedures being finalized as we speak for the former president's departure, as well as the question of how he's spending the time between now and then. our randi kaye is nearby. what's
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the scene? randy? anderson tonight of former president donald trump remains at mar-a-lago those twinkling lights there behind me, that's the mar-a-lago club. it's unclear who he is there inside with if he's consulting with lawyers or family members, we just don't know there's also been a steady stream, a small gathering of protesters and supporters on the bridge nearby that overlooks mar-a-lago, but otherwise, anderson it is business as usual. we know even just last night in the hours after the indictment came down, the former president was having dinner with his wife, melania trump here at the mar-a-lago club. mingling with guests. of course, that was before he then went on social media and continue to lash out at the district attorney. and others, anderson and do we know anything about his probable schedule in palm beach for the next several days? uh well, in terms of the next 72 hours, we know that he is headed to new york city. cnn has confirmed that on monday and in terms of the route that he will take here at the mar-a-lago club is about 15 minutes away
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from palm beach international airport. that is, of course, where the trump plane is waiting on the tarmac for donald trump, and he will take the route. very likely. the main thoroughfare would be southern boulevard and that is often lined with supporters. when there is a big event for the former president, they come out with their flags and banners and honk their horns in give to him in support, but in terms of the weekend, it's unclear. he certainly played a lot of golf leading up to this indictment coming down, so we'll see if he continues to play some golf over the weekend, maybe clear his head. there's also always events weddings parties planned here at mar-a-lago, he often tends to show up unannounced. even when a couple was getting married and surprise. the guests will see if he's in the mood to do that, following this indictment or if the former president decides to lay low, anderson and i know members of his family have been speaking out. that's right. ivanka trump, who has been pretty quiet following the 2020 election. she did post on her instagram stories and she wrote, i love my father, and i love my country today. i am pained for both. i appreciate the voices across the political spectrum
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expressing support and concern and also jared kushner, his son in law was at an event in miami earlier today, and he spoke to the crowd. he said that he and ivanka love trump very much. he blame this all on politics, he said. the opponents are always going after his father in law, whether it's the russia probe the impeachment or going after the classified documents that were found here at mar-a-lago, he said that it's just more of that and all of this, he says when trump's back is up against the wall, jared kushner says it only makes him stronger. anderson randi kaye appreciate it. thanks with me here tonight, senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor hoenig. so, uh, what's going on. what's the latest? the thing i'm most interested in is seeing this indictment when it will finally be unsealed on tuesday. there was an interesting moment today , the judge issued the first official order. in this case. it's one page. but when i printed it out and looked at it, i realized oh, this is the first time we've seen in writing the caption that says people of the state of new york versus donald j. trump comma defendant and
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that was a moment of this is real, and this order sets the stage. to have the indictment unsealed on tuesday, and when it's unsealed, it's unsealed by the judge reads to the defendant the charges, the judge will say, i hereby unsealed the indictment there will be should be copies of available for us and yes, then the judge will say, mr trump. you've been charged with 34 counts. do you want me to read them to you? or have you gone through it with your lawyer? the defendant's usually say i don't need you to read all 34 to me. and then the judge will say, how do you plead? donald trump will plead not guilty, but that indictment is going to give us the first real meaningful insight into the substance. so how much in advance? does the defendant and his attorneys get to see the charges typically, not much, typically just enough time for the attorney to go through it with the defendant in this case, donald trump so that the defendant can waive that public reading and not have to put everyone through the sort of long ritual we've been hearing now the trump legal team, saying they're going to file motions to dismiss right as soon as possible. is that talk? what does that what does that amount will definitely file motions to
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dismiss and that's commonplace. what this is when the likelihood of that that they'll file them know that will succeed. so let's run through what they are. one of the motions to dismiss is going to be you cannot charge a valuation of federal campaign law right because it's an election for president under new york state law, they have a decent chance at that. the new york law is not clear on that the law does seem to suggest you can't bring in federal law into new york state law. i think they have a decent chance on that. they're also going to argue selective prosecution. i would bet, meaning he's been picked out for purely political reasons. i don't think they have much, if any chance at that. they also may argue statute of limitations normally have five years. this conduct goes back more than that. but the problem for trump's team here is there are laws, saying that the statute of limitations is told meaning put on pause during covid. and while somebody's living out of the state, so i don't think they're going to win on that, but they may well succeed in getting some of these charges thrown out or reduced. and with this delay the process sure, because what's going to happen is trump's team will make the motion to this district to
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the trial court judge if he denies the motion, trump's team is going to say we'd like to appeal. now. this is what we call an interlocutory appeal, meaning an appeal before the case is over, and there's some leeway here in whether the trial judge will allow trump to bring it up to the appellate division and whether the appellate division will take it, but they might. and if so, then we have to put everything on pause while these motions go through the appeals process, which will take months we've seen obviously the former president lash out at the district attorney in new york now at the judge handling handling these indictments. does that have any impact? well look, a person is entitled to criticize prosecutors and judges . i don't recommend it. you don't really want to antagonize. those people, but i think donald trump has already gone way beyond the line with his racist attacks with his personal attacks with his attacks, frankly, that seemed to be fomenting violence. um what the judge can do. if this gets to an extreme point is issue a gag order. judges are very, very reluctant to do this. but if so,
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and this happens sometimes the judge will issue an official order of the court, saying you are not to talk about this case publicly. and if you do you risk contempt of court, which can be i don't think we're going to get here can be punishable by getting locked up. very unlikely. but again, if trump keeps it up, the prosecutor may get to a point where he or she says, okay, i have to ask the judge to shut you up now appreciate it thanks next month. station with journalists, ronan farrow, who has done some of the most extensive reporting on the story so far his thoughts on the indictment but also how the other woman connected to the former president, karen macdougal, might factor in and later russia. shocking arrest of the wall street journal reporter accusing him of espionage. not since the cold war as russia done something like this from an american journalist will tell you what president biden had to say about it today, and we have a 3 60 exclusive interview with the wall street journal's editor in chief. future is here. we've been creating it for more than 100 years. putting the most
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people watching this are going to doubt that you entered into this negotiation. uh because you feared for your safety. they're going to think that you saw an opportunity. i think the fact that i didn't even negotiate. i just quickly said yes to this. hmm very, you know, strict contract and what most people will agree with me. extremely low number is all the proof. i need perspective now from someone who's been reporting on this from the start. new yorker contributing writer ronan farrow. what was your reaction to the indictment? well after so many years of reporting on this pattern of payments to cover up his conduct, and so many people around those transactions first , claiming they weren't significant that they didn't have an election influencing intent. then admitting as some of the people at am i ultimately did that. that was exactly what was happening. they did that when they acquire folks lied to you. initially, when you were reporting on this, they were denying everything. exactly so
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the parent company of the national enquirer, am i ultimately had to strike a deal with federal prosecutors, and in that deal, they admitted, this was a pattern of conduct. it did have this intent to influence an election. now part of that agreement with prosecutors related to a decision by federal prosecutors not to bring a case against trump and a number of days passed on this essentially including brags predecessor in manhattan. so it is a story coming full circle in a way that a lot of legal analysts around this and a lot of reporters around it didn't quite expect karen macdougal piece of this is interesting you're reporting on that was was extraordinary. i didn't interview with her as well. later on, she alleges her relationship with with the former president before he was president. i just want to play part of an interview of when i talked to her. what's your understanding of catching killers? from what i'm learning a catch and kill is somebody for
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legacy for yourself, for example, taking a story about somebody you like or care about every friendship about and they squash a story so it doesn't hurt you. so did you know that? that's what was going on, or that's the allegation of what was going on here. did you? did you realize that at the time i knew the story wasn't going to be printed yeah. why do you think they squashed the story? back then or now. um. they they didn't want to hurt him. you think it's because of personal relationship? with the guy who runs am i his friends with donald trump. correct. how does her case factor into the charges against the former president? obviously we don't know what the indictments are yet what i'm hearing from my sources is that there will be a full list of charges and a fact pattern that is revealed very soon, and that should be pretty explosive.
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what's been reported is that the main charge here is around the more direct transaction that didn't involve me from michael cohen. just stormy daniels. now we've also learned in recent days that not only did david pecker the head of am i testified twice before this grand jury, but jurors heard detailed evidence about the karen macdougal situation about that transaction. that's really significant anderson because it means they're not just looking at one relatively small hush payment, they're bringing in evidence of a pattern of payments and even if they don't wind up charging directly on the macdougal transaction. i don't know yet whether they will this goes to the intent of that pattern. it goes to the fact that it's a pattern, all of which is going to be necessary to bolster their case. pecker also in in, uh, when he was being faced with georges in his agreement with the feds, he said that he met with people from the trump campaign. and that's
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obviously significant because the question is, was this in order to help the presidential campaign in the president's former president? supporters are saying, well, you know, he didn't want to embarrass his wife. so bringing in this evidence about mcdougall allows them to bring in that part of the story allows them to bring in david pecker and other people from am i can say yeah, we sat in the meeting and this was the intent. this is what this pattern of behavior was about. it was about protecting this man during election season. benefit for david pecker to do this for donald trump. did he just like being in the orbit of donald trump? this is the question that so many even am i insiders posed to me over my years of reporting on this. and i think that's a big part of it. honestly he liked the status afforded to him being close to celebrities. and especially this one am i had similar relationships with a number of prominent people over the years, and i think when donald trump became a viable political candidate a number of people at m. i realized that they stood to benefit from that
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relationship inquirer was on the rocks financially going into that election season. i think the number of people there were looking for ways out. we're looking for golden parachutes were looking for favorable treatment of that company. so there was a lot in this for david pecker and other associates there. thank you appreciate it. good to be here, anderson. just ahead the senate republicans who have been notably silent on the former president's indictments in the house republican who says she's coming to new york to protest plus, i talked with republican former governor possible presidential contender is a hutchinson, who is now calling for the former president to end his campaign for the white house. after advil feeling better. on top of the world. before advil. bill targets pain that the source of inflammation pain comes for you come back fast with advil liquid gels, super duper hero bandages just like you were a hero today getting your covid vaccine elmo
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produce an audio book with us more profits and find a new audience for your published book produced an audiobook. we handle narration, production and digital distribution 38559. some republicans have been notably silent on the trump indictment. others such as congresswoman marjorie taylor green have not. she called on her followers to protest about to be in new york on tuesday, senator lindsey graham tried to make a joke. the former judiciary committee chairman and current ranking member asking one tweet. how can president trump avoid prosecution in new york? then entering the next and again, these are the former chairman's words, quote on the way to the da's office on tuesday, trump should smash them windows, rob a few shops and punch a cop. he would be released immediately, joining us with some other reactions. cnn's manu raju at the capital. so what more are you hearing from lawmakers tonight? well, anderson. congress is on recess right now, so the halls of the capitol have actually been empty. really? in the hours before the indictment , so what we have heard is reaction from a lot of members. a lot of members who support donald trump some of the more
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outspoken members rushing to his defense, including the speaker of the house, who immediately afterwards said that donald trump that the alvin bragg would be the prosecutor in this case would be held to account and others also contending that the charges here they expect them to be political. oh they said it was a sham investigation, even though they have openly acknowledged not seeing the evidence and not knowing what the charges are here, because no one has seen any of that because it's all under seal. and earlier today, i had a chance to catch up with one of donald trump's defenders who happened to be here on capitol hill. barry moore. he's a conservative congressman from alabama, and i asked him about the fact that he is defending donald trump even before seeing the evidence. sorry are you jumping the gun on this? no it looks pretty political. so without seeing the indictment without knowing anything behind it. the motivation was there long before the evidence was, if you see the charges, and it looks serious, would you change your mind? could you could you are you open to thinking that this could possibly be a legitimate investigation? well, you know,
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i'm open to thinking that, but i'm in the garbage business, you know, and so a lot of times i know how to spot a pile of garbage. and this thing looks like a pile of garbage. that underlying conduct concern, you know, i mean, did it concern about when bill clinton did apologize? jones. i wish i could endorse him five more times right now. so he did compare this to the case involving bill clinton and paula jones. not entirely synonymous, though that was a lawsuit that bill clinton settled $850,000 to settle a sexual hold rassmann allegation against him. this could include our alleging donald trump falsifying business records to deal with hush money payments to silence and alleged extramarital affair with an adult film actress in the days before the 2016 election, but we'll see all the evidence here. some republicans, though warning against a rush to judgment. that was the words of senator lisa murkowski, who has been a donald trump critic, and also silence to anderson from the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell, who has yet to have any sort of comment whatsoever in the wake of this indictment news, and neither has his number
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two john thune to republicans who have been eager to move past the trump era. unlike many of the republicans, particularly in the house, the manhattan d. a s office there once again, pushing back on threats of republican investigations. yeah that's right, because the republicans in the house three chairman sent a letter demanding alvin brags testimony. this came just days ago in the aftermath of the expectation is indictment would come down. they want to brag to come up to capitol hill. they wanted him to testify. they wanted records of internal communications. but today brags office pushing back sending a letter to those three chairman and essentially saying that they are doing donald trump's bidding and not have and don't have any sort of legitimate legislative purpose. in the words of the brags office, saying, we urge you to refrain from these inflammatory accusations. withdraw your demand for information and let the criminal justice process proceed without unlawful political interference . one question that the republican chairman had was how much federal funding is supporting of their
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investigation. the d a. s office says that none of the money coming from federal funds is actually supporting this specific investigation. they said they've been about $5000 or so that went to a different aspect of dealing with donald trump. separate separate issue, but not in this investigation. unclear though, anderson what will happen next and whether republicans trying to subpoena brag and seek his testimony. raju appreciate it. thanks and breaking news now a string of powerful tornado sweeping across the middle and southern parts of the country. this video just came in. from when arkansas. their injuries reported across the state. we do not yet have the full picture as you might expect just before air time i spoke with former arkansas governor hutchinson about the tornadoes hitting his home state , as well as the indictment of the former president. governor appreciate you joining us before we get to politics. obviously you are concerned about the severe storms that hit arkansas today, at least two tornadoes, little rock was was hit. have you been able to connect with loved ones? what's your message for folks tonight? actually i just talked to my daughter who lives in little rock. she's
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fine, but our heart goes out to the families have been impacted by it is really looks like a devastating tornado that hit and so we'll be praying for the families have been impacted and i look forward to getting back there. probably tonight. i want to ask you about the historic indictment of the former president. you're calling on him to step aside from the 2024 campaign. obviously that's as you know of highly unlikely. why do you think he should step aside. well you're right. anderson it's fact not only unlikely clearly, he's not going to and there's not any requirement. he doesn't nobody can make him do it. the reason i said that is first of all, i believe that the office that someone seeks is more important than the person and so clearly this is going to be a distraction. he's going to have to focus on his legal defense. and so it's when you look at the presidency of the united states. it is just not helpful, but the
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fact is, he's going to continue in it and of what ultimately is going to have to be decided for. the nominee on the republican side is the voters are going to have to decide it. and the concern is, of course, that this is just a big distraction. we have to remember the presumption of innocence continues. in this case, it will have to wait further facts also open for anybody else running, uh they are going to be asked about it for candidates who want to talk about the border or the economy or whatever it does sort of suck up a lot of oxygen. well it does , and it's a challenge for the american people that want their leaders and candidates to talk about. border security. talk about our support for ukraine or to talk about the economy and now, not just tuesday, whenever you have the appearance in court , but it will be every motion that's filed every judge ruling every appeal in this case. and
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so it is a concern for as i called the body politics that we're going to have this, uh, difficulty. this challenge this crisis that he faces throughout the election seasons just from a political standpoint. do you have any sense of how an indictment affects the former president politically in his race, does it does it? make everybody you know, on the rally around him, people who might not otherwise does it long term, maybe a road support. well i think that's the analysis that in the short term people believe he has been targeted, believes that the prosecution is not just in the charges are not valid. and so he has proclaimed himself a victim for years, and this is almost a self fulfilling prophecy, and so he can proclaim his victimization and he can get
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sympathy because of that, and so he'll probably have a short term. bomp long term we don't know and that all depends upon the facts as they develop that we don't even know what the indictment is the specifics of it yet and then you've got other investigations that are ongoing from the special counsel to that in georgia, and so this is going to be a long term saga. your response to the same that that you put out yesterday i thought was a very responsible statement . there's a lot of folks who have, you know, immediately said they, you know, they wouldn't extradite the president, or you know that the attacking the you know, with the players in this saying it's completely political . um you've taken a sort of middle ground. you said there are indications it could. you know, there could be politics involved in this. i don't want to put words in your mouth. um but he just talked about why you chose to take the track. you did you obviously have a you know, a
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law background. you've been a prosecutor yourself. well when i heard the indictment, i sat down and wrote out my statement, and it's what i believe that we ought to let the system work. thousands of americans face charges and we trust our criminal justice system. we trust our jury system, and it's really the envy of the world. and so let's not prejudge. let's let the facts develop. and he is entitled to the presumption of innocence as i indicated, but i think it's important that, uh, we state our conviction and i think i am standing alone on this point, saying, let's let the facts develop and be patient. yeah i mean, that's it's notable that you are standing alone on this and it says a lot about you and it says a lot about politics in america today. well it does. it does. but you know this is fraught with emotions. whenever you have
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someone that we've supported i was his campaign chairman in 2020 in arkansas, donald trump, but everything's taken a turn. and but there's a lot of loyalty out there. so there's a lot of emotion. there's emotion on both sides, and so leaders need to calm the emotions. leaders need to say let's get the facts and let's have confidence and not undermine our judicial system, which again is so important to our democracy were democracy under the law, governor asa hundreds, and i really appreciate your time tonight. thank you. thank you, anderson. still had more on those violent tornadoes and severe weather that hit a large swath of the middle of the country. since derek van dam just arrived in arkansas. we're working on getting his life signal up so you can bring us a report on the ground and the wall street journal reporter evan gersh covic arrested on espionage charges in russia since the cold war. has russia done something like this to an american reporter? my exclusive interview with the editor in chief of the
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coworkers or say thank you with promotional products from four imprint .com. print for certain . good morning, everyone we do begin with breaking news this morning. president biden made his first public comments today about the 31 year old wall street journal reporter evan gersh covic, who was detained by russia wednesday on allegations of espionage charges, the journal says it vehemently denies. we asked president biden about it. for right now, as
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they're detaining the to russia as they're detaining this wall street journal reporter here we go, diplomats or journalist. and that's not the plan right now. administration says u. s diplomats have been unable to meet with the girls. covic the first american journalists detained by russia in charge of spying since 1986 i'm joined now for an exclusive interview by the editor in chief of the wall street journal. emma tucker. i'm so sorry that we're talking under these circumstances have you been able to be in touch with him. ah no, we haven't and i also just want to say thank you for having me on and thank you too, for showing the clip. you just did. um it's very, very reassuring for us to know that the us government is taking this assault on our journalists as seriously as it is right up to the top. but as to whether or not we've had any. we've had no information. we did we to the best of our knowledge. we know where he is. he's in a prison in
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moscow very notorious prison, one that has always had since the soviet times has had a very bad reputation and still has, but we haven't been able to reach him. we haven't been able to get any messages to him, and we certainly haven't heard anything from him. that's terrifying, terrifying. it's very it's very unsettling is particularly upsetting for his parents. who really, what they want to hear is some sort of reassurance that he's not being mistreated. can you talk a little bit of about him as a reporter? i mean, he loved reporting on russia. his family was from the soviet union. evan evan is an all american boy. he was born in new york grew up in princeton, but he very much embraced his russian background . his parents, russian immigrants, he was fascinated by the country, and that's what made him such a good reporter. you know, he spoke the language fluently, he could navigate his way around the country. he was fascinated by the culture. he loved the culture and he loved russia. and as i say that made
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him a very effective reporter because he was always will inkling out unusual stories. that and really, i would say, you know, his work speaks for itself. if you want to know what he was like as a reporter in a situation like this what? what can you as the wall street journal? do i know the state department has not yet declared him wrongfully detained or is that something you're hoping they do soon? we are normally takes quite a while for that to happen, but we're hopeful. we're very optimistic that the u. s government will designate him they're moving quickly towards designating him as unlawfully detained when that happens. that's an official recognition that the charges against him are bogus and there and after that things we hope could move a bit more swiftly. i want to read something that the kremlin spokesperson said dmitry peskov , set of evan quote. in this case. we are talking about espionage activities under the guise of journalistic activities since this journalist was caught red handed this situation is obvious utter. it's utter
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rubbish. um evan was doing what reporters do and what he did very well. he was out there. gathering news talking to people reporting, providing an eyewitness account of what's going on inside russia. he felt very strongly that it was important to keep telling people it's difficult to report from russia these days, but he was very committed to telling that story and he was going about his job. he was it's priestley complete nonsense what this spokesman is saying, so. what happens now? in a situation like this? well we are hoping to be able to get a message to him where we also are looking for some sort of reassurance from them. we want to keep the pressure up. i think it's very important to keep making a noise about evan keep reminding people . there's a busy news agenda. we all know that. and so i think for us, it's important to keep this this case front of mind, and that's why we're grateful to people like you and to the other news outlets have piled in to give us their support. it really
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means an awful lot. and it will. i hope mean that we get evan back sooner rather than later. potential chilling effect on this. i mean, not only is this horrific for even for the for the paper for the wall street journal, but but the chilling effect on this i mean reporters. this is the job we all do. and for it to have governments suddenly reach out and snatch one. yeah, it's really it's terrible and you know it's getting harder. it's not just russia. i think it's getting more challenging in so many parts of the world, and that's just bad for all of us. you know, we need to we need journalists need to be able to do their job safely. and we, you know that's obviously our commitment is to the safety of our journalists. we're also committed to covering the news all over the globe. we're very lucky at the wall street journal. we've got a huge network of foreign correspondents. we're committed to providing that that sort of eyewitness reporting unbiased, transparent reporting that matters so greatly in a world of disinformation, tucker, i appreciate talking to you and we
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the world's news network. we touched on the destructive weather hitting arkansas with former governor asa hutchinson extensive damage not in the small city of win, in the words of the mayor of the town has been quote basically cut in half by a tornado and some of the early video of the devastation which you see is considerable, shows the storm's path through one neighborhood, heavy destruction as well to the local high school. we're told you can see the entryway torn to pieces, large sections of roofing torn away. similar damage being recorded reported across the state with the videos well, what it looked like as the storm came through another part of the town and as you can see, the sheer size of it is punishing the storm, then crossed over into tennessee, where tornado emergency was declared north of memphis. that's on top of a tornado that struck metro little rock, arkansas today, sending two dozen people to the hospital. seen as dirk van dam is in the storm zone. he joins us now. so what are you seeing around you? yeah anderson. it's
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a very fluid situation. we are in park in arkansas, which is about five miles outside of wind . where the destruction you saw the high school on your screens flashing by just a few moments ago. we have seen police vehicles first responders racing down the road ways. we stopped to come to tell you the story about what we have witnessed. and just checking the trajectory of this tornado that moved through the area. this is the damage from the same tornado that moved through wind. so what you're looking at behind me was previously a church. obviously unfortunately now in complete shambles, this is a rice and soybean farm and there have been multiple buildings that have been destroyed. i believe this is kind of the outer edges of this tornado damage. you can see all the debris on the ground here. we have. to be careful. of nails from the debris, and one thing is for sure this storm is still taking advantage of this very volatile environment that
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happens to be in and around central tennessee. so these storms continue to race across the deep south. they still pose a threat, and it's not just here. this is a major significant widespread tornado outbreak that is unfolding across the nation's midsection all the way into northern sections of illinois right now, multiple warned tornado storms. approaching that particular region, but when we show you just the devastation here, this , you know from a trained meteorologist. professional opinion has to be winds in excess of 100 110 mph. you're looking at minimum to damage. of course, crews have to come out and confirm that but we know about the fate or the injuries that have already been caused by the tornadoes in little rock. these again continued to press eastward across central tennessee, where we walk where we are, and that's where we're where we were earlier today and obviously leaving the destruction that you see behind
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me. it is going to be a difficult night for people as they try to search for people who are perhaps trapped. is this weather system expected to continue tomorrow? this storm is going to race off to the northeast tomorrow, so there's actually severe weather threat across parts of the east coast as well. so not as significant as widespread as what we experienced today, but that storm system needs to be monitored across the northeastern sections of the u. s forces your weather once again and we need to take shelter as well. anderson because we've seen lightning flashing around us just prior to this live shot. another thunderstorm moving into this area, and, frankly, it's probably best that we get indoors. all right, let's get derek van dam. thanks very much. we'll be right back. young lady who was mid thirties. a couple of kids recently went through a divorce. she had a lot of questions when she came in. i watched my mother go through being a single mom. at the end
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comforting and uplifting for all of us. the news continues on hand it over to katelyn polantz with inside the trump indict. good evening. i'm caitlin collins. welcome to cnn prime time. we have brand new details tonight on the first ever indictment of a former president just days before donald trump's expected surrender, including new reporting on wind cameras are expected to capture the president as he makes his first court appearance. it's an unprecedented moment in united states history, and we're learning of extensive security measures that are being taken both here and new york and on capitol hill in anticipation of possible protest. maggie haberman will join us in the moment with her new reporting on the hush money case against him. also one of the republicans who voted to impeach trump says of all the things to go after him
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for this, isn't it? he's also going to join us in this hour. we also have one of the former president's attorneys right now . publicly trump has not been keeping his feelings close to the vest on all of this, instead lashing out at the judge that he is actually due to appear before on tuesday, alleging on social media, the judge juan manuel, march, 10 was quote handpicked by the prosecution and hates me. this is also the same judge. we should note who oversaw the trump organization trial and the sentencing of the former trump financial chief, allen weisberg . and for the first time since trump's indictment, we are also now hearing from the woman at the center of it all, stormy daniels, who was the recipient of the hush money payout at the center of this case, the adult film stars says that the threats against her are only intensifying tonight. this time. it's. strain of violence. you know, like the first time it was like little digger sluts. your you know, liar, whatever. an