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miller showed a graphic of all the attorneys and former president trump's orbit and how they work. in some cases, their work. some cases overlapped one of the people in that graphic lanny davis called in a few minutes ago to say, well, he and joe tecca pena have been friends for years, he never formally represented him. he also said that robert costello never represented mr davis's current client, michael cohen. the news continues. erin burnett outfront starts now. outfront next. we are awaiting two key rulings from the judge and trump's hush money case, and we are now just hours away from trump's historic arrest. as our jeff zeleny has new reporting from inside trump's camp this late hour this evening, plus, i'll be joined by a reporter who's talking to trump insiders and why they are worried tonight about the protest tomorrow. a new word about the american journalists jailed in russia as one of evan gorski, which is closest friends is here. whatever is said to him the night before his arrest, let's go, outfront. and good

evening. i'm erin burnett and welcome to a special edition of outfront tonight hours from surrendering former president donald j. trump right now huddling with advisors in new york as he is about to make history as the first president to formally charged with a crime. and just hours, trump will head downtown and he will turn himself in. and at this late hour this monday evening, we're still waiting for the judge in the case to rule on two important motions, and this could come at any time. the first of these is whether to allow cameras in the courtroom. trump's legal team opposes that move. they say it would create a circus like atmosphere. that's the first motion and then the second one that we're awaiting a ruling from the judge on is the motion to unseal the indictment before tomorrow's arraignment. again we are told that these rulings could be issued tonight and if they are, it would be an incredible cap off to what has been pretty unbelievable day. the former president, leaving his home in mar-a-lago this afternoon followed there in his convoy. supporters lining the roads flying to new york, where

he made his way to trump tower cameras, catching the former president, waving as he entered his home. sources telling cnn. the former president faces more than 30 counts. these are related to business fraud, and the charges come after a lengthy investigation into trump's alleged role in a hush money payment to the adult film star stormy daniels, and that payment , of course, happened just before the 2016 election are keras canal is outfront. she is outside the courthouse. jeff zeleny is at trump tower with new reporting there. let me begin with you, kara, because i know we are waiting and could this could come down at any time here? these crucial decisions from the judge on these motions? what's the latest you're here? ring. and so we are waiting to see when the judge will issue. these rulings he did indicate earlier today that he would or he was expected to issue a ruling on these tonight and just a reminder. cnn and other news organization has asked the judge to allow cameras in the courtroom to capture the moment the first time in the nation's history that a former president will be arraigned on criminal charges and then the media

request is given the historic nature of this. given the great public interest in this, this should be something that americans can tune in and watch. the trump team is opposing this. they're saying that this could add to the potential circus like atmosphere here. now it is. there are a lot of media cameras here. we don't know what kind of protests or counter protests could show up tomorrow, if any, and they're saying that could also harm the former president's presumption of innocence by allowing the public potential jurors to see him sitting behind a defendant's table. now the district attorney's office is saying, and in this matter, they're not going to weigh in on it. they have noted in the past another high profile cases they've allowed a still photographer to come in and capture the moments before the proceeding begins. we're waiting for the judge rule on that. the media is also asked the judge to unseal the indictment. you know, we've been reporting there is more than 30 charges, and some of them will be felonies were asking address. two unsealed indictments. still no word on whether he will do it ahead of the arraignment tomorrow afternoon. so these are the key things that we have teed up. it's also possible we'll hear

from the district attorney alvin bragg tomorrow. you know they have been silent on this other than this statement last thursday, confirming that the grand jury had returned an indictment. you know, be interested in hearing from him what the theory of the case is and why he thought this was a significant case to bring an important case to bring the first case to bring against the former president. aaron alright , cara, thank you very much. and you heard cares, reporting that some of the charges likely to include felonies and the judge. it indicated this decision on these motions could come tonight. so we await that and as we do, i want to go to jeff zeleny outside trump tower. and jeff. as i said, you've got some new reporting. what are you learning? we're learning that the former president after he arrived here at trump tower, he spent some time meeting with his political advisors and his legal advisers as well. and of course we are on the eve of a very historic moment for him, but a first for donald trump, appearing in that manhattan courtroom, and i am told that his advisers hope i should emphasize hope that he deploys a two pronged strategy one in the

court of law tomorrow. they do not want him to speak at all. really here in new york publicly they want him to wait and save his comments for tomorrow evening in mar-a-lago. this really speaks to a two pronged strategy that they hope he will employ over the next several months. perhaps even longer than that, as this legal case proceeds as his campaign proceeds as well on the campaign trail. yes he can unleash some of the vitriol that he's been doing, but in the court of law here in the courtroom. they hope that he essentially allows his lawyers to speak for them, but they're certainly highlights. one point. this legal case now is at the center of the 2024 republican presidential campaign . it is essentially frozen this campaign into place. he's raised some $7 million. his rivals have been watching all of this sort of, you know, happened throughout the day. he's consumed all the oxygen. in the race. but tomorrow, erin will be a key test to see if the former president, you know, his famously bombastic, particularly here in his native new york city

if he can hold his tongue and save his remarks for this evening political speech, he said, to give it mar-a-lago, but he's in trump tower tonight until tomorrow morning, is likely to start the process that includes fingerprinting after the ace office and moving on to that court appearance in the afternoon. before flying to mar-a-lago. alright. thank you very much. jeff zeleny outside trump tower and outfront. now ryan goodman, rebecca, right, margaret hoover and basil smikle . and thanks so much to all of you so ryan awaiting ward from the court tonight, as we said on two motions, and as carol reported, right we had anticipated we may hear on these tonight first, when the indictment and unsealing of this indictment do you think this could still come tonight? i think it could come tonight. at least the judge would let us all know in a certain sense of decision is and i do think that the standard approaches what you'd probably adopted which is just to release it tomorrow at the time of the arrangement, so that doesn't look. is there anything prejudicial or different is happening with president trump in this instance? so as a former assistant, uh, manhattan district attorney, right? you know everything at play here.

what you know the you know the president. you know what? the pressure they're under? you know this decision. um what would be where do you think they are here on this and why? i mean, in a sense, why are we waiting so long to even get an indication well, i mean, that's the way i'm prosecutors operate, but i also think they're really keeping their heads down and blocking out all of this white noise. so it's like we're in this swarm of white noise so that we don't understand that what prosecutors do in an instance like this is, you know, obviously they can't insulate themselves completely. they're hearing it, but they're trying their best to really focus on what they're doing, and they don't speak except for through indictments in situations like this, so i think it's unlikely that we're going to hear from from alvin bragg at this moment, maybe later on, you know, at a certain point, but i think it would be really highly unlikely. so margaret, the other thing is cameras in the courtroom. now obviously heard caress a the media. cnn has said that there is an interest in this being in the public eye. trump's team. interestingly trump loves cameras and has made no no shy part about that, even in this case, but they think it

would be bad to have him be sitting behind that defendants desk. the imagery. look, there are some things that donald trump can spin, but i think it is a real reveal about what he is afraid of. and what imagery he can't step away from and he can't change and the fact is, donald trump has been fighting the justice system. i mean, he has been prosecuted for most of his 45 years that he has been in that he has been a private citizen. even in real estate. he has been investigated. he has been fighting lawsuits. he has been suing people he has been the victim of suits, but he has always won. this will be the first time he has been in front of a judge and he has been indicted. he has lost the legal, but he is not a winner anymore, and that imagery is very difficult to counterbalance. that's a whole new narrative he's going to have to come up with and you can understand why perhaps he wouldn't want those images. right basil? what do you think? i mean, obviously, he'd be prepared for it if it happens, but still, you know,

there's a moment where there's a protocol playing to that camera . it's just there watching right which has got to be burning him that he is being told he can't have a camera in the courtroom, and it's not in his best interest to have a camera in the courtroom, and he has to keep his mouth shut. don't know whether he can actually do that. but it is in his. it seems contrary to everything that we know about donald trump that he has to do in this moment of time. to keep from being prosecuted further and that is that is a situation that i can't imagine that he is in, but he is absolutely in that situation right now. ryan does it matter as we await the possible and sealing of this indictment tonight. does it matter? you know, john miller has been reporting 34 charges. we know it, at least, is more than 30. we just don't know the felony misdemeanor breakdown. how significant will that breakdown b? i think it could be very significant. so this ends up being like one felony and the rest are misdemeanors. it doesn't look like such a strong case, the greater degree to which they are felonies being charged at others. 34 i think suggests the strength of the case and the confidence that the attorney general that the attorney general that the district attorney has in his

case, so that's what we will see. we'll see that immediately will know that from the indictment, so would you read into that more felonies indicates that they really do know they have a stronger case. or is this sort of a case of, um optics matter. so go ahead and there's many felonies on the table as you can. rebecca i don't think it's optics matter. i mean, i really think it is about the strength of the case. and, you know, i mean, this is a serious charge. the felony charges one that the district attorney's office uses quite frequently and white collar cases and charging a felony. a serious charging 34 felonies is serious, and sometimes it can be broken down by the number of, you know specific business records that were fabricated, but no matter what each one of those times if, if they if they have the backup evidence each one of those times is a crime, right? right and we understand, right. 11 possible transfer als , right? you enter that into a document of right ledger three times. you know, each document could be three charges, but it's unclear. obviously, we just don't know. but margaret, it comes as we also are hearing that trump asked the judge to dismiss a wrongful wrongful

death lawsuit. until death lawsuit. you're looking at me and you should be looking at me going. what is it? well this is related to january, 6th and brian sick. nick, one of the capitol police officers who died after responding to the family was suing trump for wrongful death. this is i simply make that point to say three other business cases in new york. their cases in georgia there doj cases there is a rape case, jean carroll in new york. there are a lot of these things and there's developments and another doj case in the context of the mar-a-lago documented case and potentially obstruction. coming forth and looking for looking at the fact that perhaps he was involved in obstruction, which in which makes that case so different from the case of president biden, who also ended up with classified documents in his garage in delaware. that's exactly right. i think placing this in context, there are some who regret that this is the first case of indictment against the former president. i think if there are more indictments in other cases, we will look back,

not worrying, which one was first, by interesting point, hoping that the years of justice have ground through fairly and honorably in the context of a former president. now, of course, he's going to make the case basil. the more of these that it that it shows just the political motivation. all of this is that he'll actually use that the preponderance of this shows that they're just out to get me to reach a certain point where that just becomes impossible to believe for people or does it become more believable? you know, i tried to center to voter in all of this 90 per their polls that say that 90% of republicans think this is a political ah hit job. you can understand that right up to 70 73% of independence actually believe that and many of them feel that he should not run if he is while he is under indictment that independent pieces a little concerning because democrats did very well with independence in 2022, but i imagine to your point, if as these as these lawsuits become more and more prevalent, and he's going to have to respond to

them more one wonders whether you're republican or an independent. enough is enough that we need to move on. but i don't know that republicans could move on wholesale from him, but they're going to need to at some point, right? i mean, it's kind of brought everything to a halt, and, and this is just the first, right. this is just the first. now. there's also been a shake up on the legal team, which i know we've become accustomed to. it's not abnormal to change your lawyers. but certainly ryan in terms case he does it a lot. so joe tacopina says he's going to be the lead trial lawyer on this. joe tacopina, of course, has been the face people have seen. it's been a broader team. they've now added, uh, todd blanche, who i know. you know, you're you're aware of the new york legal community. um, and that he may sort of take a bigger role. what does it say to you that this is happening now? that's the video that we have of mr blanche. so it's a shake up on the eve of his indictment. i would imagine donald trump does not necessarily want george akopian joe tacopina to be his lead attorney in that courtroom. i think he might do well on tv. but maybe none of that courtroom

is that because of joe tacopina being on the record on television, saying stormy daniels case was terrible for trump or just other reasons. i think the biggest one is actually joe tacopina being on the record and at cnn in 2018, saying that he for a time being did have a attorney client relationship with stormy daniels . i don't no, no, no, no. how well he will do in a hearing. if the judge says what's going on here? that's a direct conflict. can you really be representing the adverse party? according to new york state ethics rules, i think that's a problem for georgia casino. what do you make of the legal changes? you know, i think, trump somebody who cares about prestige, and joe tacopina and susan necklace are actually quite effective trial attorneys. they have a sort of brawling kind of attitude, and they're good, but i think you wants to bring in a former federal prosecutor for the gravitas for and then and i think that he cares about that. and i think it's more of that than anything else. i mean, we'll see if he actually took

over the case. then i would reassess, but i think it's more about bringing in somebody who carries a different kind of weight. then joe tacopina and susan necklace. it's interesting . you know, he for all that, he says he's one way then when push comes to shove wants to go the other. so margaret, you know, we know that alvin bragg is supposed to speak tomorrow and then trump is supposed to not speak. and then trump is going to get on a plane and go to mar-a-lago. and he's supposed to speak, so we'll see if it plays out this way. but we do. you know, he will speak at least in mar-a-lago, but he was very quiet today. outside is true. social his web. you know his website he did not. he didn't approach the cameras. he didn't say anything which is unusual. it's also advised. i mean, he's about to be the first president to before formally indicted tomorrow. i mean, he he shouldn't say anything that could sway a potential jury that would anger the judge before he shows up in front of the judge, and he's going to have plenty of time in front of the cameras when he gets back to mar-a-lago make no mistake. that speech talk rally is going to be his

beginning of his political rebuttal narrative. okay that will be his response to all the while. the wall cameras talking about trump as a victim. prior and so he will have. he will have his moment. there's gonna be more than a moment. he'll string it out. we all know tomorrow night at mar-a-lago, which is interesting, and i understand you go to another state because we do it another state, but i mean, the whole country is going to hear it. it's not as if a juror in new york isn't gonna hear it or the judge isn't going to hear it. but somehow this distinction seems to matter well, the distinction matters because he wants to be in sort of more controlled territory, something that's familiar to him. but the point about alvin bragg because i do think that a lot of what he says is going to be directed toward alvin baghdad. clear indirectly point about. there have been three district attorneys in manhattan in the last 48 years. six in the last 80. alvin bragg in himself, and in his ideology represents a change that is threatening for a lot of people. so as donald trump in 2016 and going forward , railed against the supreme court justices railed against

judges. it is this black man, alvin bragg that has brought him from florida to appear before a court in new york city. um and i will tell you the much maligned alvin bragg. he is the center of this firestorm. but he showed that method you know, in a methodical way. he has a tremendous amount of power to bring that president that former president back to new york certainly does. and we should say, of course, when he was running for district attorney. he did bragged that he had sued trump 100 more than 100 times. and so we're gonna talk about that coming up in just a little bit. alright, thanks all very much. and next, some new insight intel from the trump orbit on their concerns about protests getting violent tomorrow, plus congresswoman marjorie taylor greens planning a protest of her own after spewing wild q and on conspiracies on 60 minutes, calling democrats pedophiles. one of her democratic colleagues . it will respond and some news about a jailed american journalists in russia. he is appealing his arrest. this is according to putin's main propaganda outlet, but one of the reporters closest friends is here spoke to him the night of

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close to trump. you know, trump allies people like roger stone, and they are worried. what are you hearing from them interesting. i reached out to roger stone shortly after news of the indictment broke and asked him if he planned to be at the protest. if he planned to, you know, organize anything. he, of course, has a history as a republican operative of making mischief in trouble and creating these political spectacles. he was very adamant immediately that he would not be participating in any protests and that he was urging any trump protesters to stay peaceful and that that same sentiment has been expressed over and over from people close to trump or in trump's orbit, which i think is interesting because you have trump himself out there calling for people to come to the streets to, you know, write a lot of noise, and i think that people in trump's orbit believe that he will benefit from this politically. as long as the protests like the one plan for tomorrow, don't turn violent if

we see a repeat of something like january, 6th the political advantage that trump gets from. this probably disappears. at least that's the thinking inside trump under investigation for fomenting a riot, fomenting another riot at the same time that you're under investigation probably isn't helpful. i'm sure his lawyers are expressing that as well. but it it is actually interesting when you think about republican lawmakers, right? they by and large. maybe there was a moment there is a moment for mccarthy. there was a moment, but then they kind of got back in line on january 6th , and now they've been trying to walk this line of saying that this is politically motivated in terms of the charges. that's their that's their political line, but not going so far as to defend trump, so they have to walk a fine line. and if the protest turns violent, which makes it a riot, then it will be more difficult for them to walk that line. but this sort of tiptoeing around donald trump. at some point, folks need to wise up about the fact that it's a fool's errand. mhm we get we

get why kevin mccarthy went and kissed the ring in mar-a-lago. weeks after january, 6th singing a different tune, but at least the people running for president ought to have the integrity to call. call him out and this out for what it is, and yet we've seen a lot of pulling of punches now said. meantime since the indictment, trump says his team says that they've raised $7 million and we can't verify that at this point, but they say, $7 million and what's interesting is they say that what a quarter to a third of that is new donors? so they're saying so far? this is obviously helping them in significantly, so i mean , we don't know about the money, but we do know about the public polling, which is that we have seen republican voters fairly rally around him in the last couple of months. now, maybe not. all of that is the indictment, but it is increasingly looking like a republican primary with donald trump is again blocking out the sun to other candidates to your point. we have not seen other candidates really decided they have space to attack donald trump on this issue, and now and so it is a question of integrity is a question of leadership, whether they'll go out in front of the politics of it, but they are looking at the republican electorate where they are not

seeing space to really criticized donald trump and make it leapfrog over him with this case in mind, and so that is the calculus that's happening on the 2024 side, which really speaks to where we where at least those folks think. republican electorate is on this issue and shows david that they're just following the polls because you know, we're at the beginning of, as you said, could be a lot of indictments. who knows right away. who knows where public opinion is going to go on this, but they're following what they perceive as published always been of the mind that uh, a lot of trump's motivation and running for president was that camp the campaign would be a shield and his supporters would be the sword that keeps republican politicians you know , focused on in his defense, and i think you're seeing that now they're not worried about trump . they're worried about the people who follow trump and not offending them. right right. they should be focused on what we're talking about. public opinion right is independent voters. right and you know, cnn is brand new poll out today and you see the republican party

coalescing around him still run a quarter holding up, but its independent voters 62% approve of this indictment only 8% think donald trump did nothing wrong. that's 8% of independent voters. and then the number that blows my mind is his support his general approval. donald trump's approval among independence is down to 26% republican party's gotta look real wide. i don't know everyone's focused on winning a nomination. but you got to win an election. you don't do that, with 26% independence dilemma they've been in for some time. yes and then you can't live with them, and you can't live without him to survive a republican primary. you need to have them and to survive a general election. you don't want them, and that's the position they're still in the definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting a different outcome. he does appear, though, right now, at least what we've seen from him to just be handling this moment a bit differently than other moments. i mean, yes, posting on social media he was quiet today. he was quiet today, and i know that a source told cnn that he left dinner earlier than usual.

i mean, you know, it may sound like ridiculous things. but this is the life that he leads. this is how he indicates his his state of mind. i think that you have to understand trump's background, right? like this is a guy. who has been driven to a large extent by fear of public humiliation, right? there's nothing that bothers him more than the prospect of being humiliated in public, and i think that you know he's he's trying to turn this into something that he can rally his base around. but there's also the possibility that you know being becoming the first former president of the united states to be indicted to face criminal charges will not turn out well for him. i know that it's a kind of that might be an understatement, but i think he realizes that this could end up , you know, making him look silly or stupid or bad and it that that eats at him that idea that he won't he's still can't capture the respect of the people that he's always wanted and kind of the political elite business elite. that stuff that stuff really matters to him and then someone like ron desantis

or others that could emerge now the story is oh ron desantis. his poll numbers are falling again. who the heck knows where you're going to be in a few months, but you know where they just sit back and are paralyzed and wait to see what trump's base does i mean the actions of the that kind of republican class have been perplexing over the last couple of months? i think it speaks to a group of candidates have really been waiting for this legal indictment to do the work for them out of the idea that when trump gets indicted, maybe this is the first of many. then we'll see those poll numbers fall and we'll see the supporters fall away from him when, in fact because of the rhetoric that's been coming out of the republican party for a long time . that's anti doj anti fbi that's based in victor. um hood . you've actually had a lot of people on the republican primary side rally to him, and so when you have the when you have a republican opponents who aren't doing what you would expect to be their role in terms of using this to kind of siphon off his support. it's allowed him to really to really, uh, coalesce a

small plurality of republicans, even though to john's point, he's continually putting off the independence. the swing vote in the long term. it's just the short term picture that looks back. we don't know again on the reality of the money, but they are saying a quarter to a third of those donors are new donors. now, if that's true, does that mean anything? you know, i think that they are trying to turn lemons into lemonade here. the fact is that yes, i'm sure he's benefiting in the short run from this. anybody who says, though, that he would prefer to be indicted because there's some political advantage. that's just nonsense. he doesn't want to be in this position, but he is doing to your point. instead, he's he's rallying. the base on familiar ground, which is the deep state and, you know, all of those plotters against us are, you know using the system the corrupt system to try and stop you from having your voice heard and you know, there's a reason why he declared that he was

going to be arrested that tuesday. i think he had no idea whether he's going to be arrested that tuesday, private an idea that he was going to be arrested at some point, but he was sending a clarion call to his supporters and have them send a call. his to the politicians that circle the wagons. guys we have we have a situation is used threats to avoid accountability, and the thing is, as justice moves forward and no one should cheerlead this. this is a bad day for america to see a former president. absolutely but equal justice under law is a more important concept than anything political and it it's the limits of his ability to intimidate people with threats to avoid accountability. that's what tomorrow maybe thank you. we will all be watching. and next, a former top democratic congressman going as far as calling this indictment a mistake, and you're going to hear why controversial gop congressmen marjorie taylor green got the 60 minutes treatment and use the platform to push wild conspiracies.

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congressman jason crow of colorado. he's on the intelligence and foreign affairs committees. and also, as you surely know, wasn't impeachment manager during trump's first impeachment trial, so, congressman, i really appreciate your time. what do you think about what barney frank has to say? he says. it's a bad indictment. it shouldn't have been brought. it's a technical violation at most, if anything, should be pursued civilly. do you think it's a mistake, as he says? well hi, erin. good to be with you. first of all, i haven't seen a bad indictment, and i haven't seen a good invite indictment because i haven't seen an indictment. the indictment hasn't been unsealed . nobody has seen it. so everybody weighing in about the nature of this indictment and what's in it? what's not in it hasn't seen the indictment. that's just just just just the bottom line here, so we have to let this process play out. grand jury proceedings are some of the most secretive proceedings and criminal justice system as they should be. they're brought by grand juries, which are regular jury, a men and women. that process is a non political process inherently, and we have

to see how it plays out. alright when you point out that it's a non political process. of course, this gets to the heart of it. you know, frank happened to warn that the indictment may backfire, he said, will backfire against democrats. republicans as you know, congressman have pointed out that alvin bragg is a progressive who was elected by democrats that that is those two things are true. and they say that he was elected to go after trump. now on that front, i will note that during his campaign, he did boast that he sued trump in fact. i found congressman crow that at one point, alvin bragg said, quote. it is a fact that i have sued trump more than 100 times that was important work, and he said that in the context of his campaign, he said, he said it repeatedly. are you comfortable with alvin bragg is the voice of this as the district attorney who is bringing the first indictment against former president in american history. well erin, here's another fact. the fact is, elvin brag. did not indict donald trump. a grand jury indicted donald trump. so this is how this works. everyone gets those jury notices in the mail.

we all do. we show up to the courthouse. we wait for our number to get called and a certain number of us get pulled away for grand jury service. it's the same jury pool the same people you serve in a grand jury evidence gets presented to you and the majority of those folks have to decide whether or not to indict. and that's a step in the process is if donald trump decides to go to trial, then he'll also have a jury. right completely true, but of course, this wouldn't have happened. it would have been brought in front of the grand jury of alvin bragg hadn't chosen to do so, um, just to state the kind of obvious on that, but you're comfortable with the overall situation is what you're saying. well, we need to see the indictment. we need to see what's in the indictment and make that decision. but what is absolutely true is donald trump has a history of violating the law of breaking the law of incitement, inciting violence. he is entitled, though to due process , he is entitled the equal protection like we all are. he is not above the law. he should not be above the law, the

analysis of whether or not he is or is not a former president should be irrelevant. because in almost every courthouse in america, there is the statue of justice and the statue of justice is holding scales and weighing the evidence, and she has blindfolded and she's blindfolded because it shouldn't matter what position you are. what title you hold. this is a matter of the evidence. that's the process when it's at its best, the process that we should see play out and i want to ask you one other thing that happened in the past 24 hours. this is congresswoman marjorie taylor green. she's planning a protest by the way here in new york ahead of trump's arrangement, but i wanted to play for you, congressman again, some of what she said on 60 minutes last night. here she is. for democrats are a party of pedophiles. i would definitely say so they support grooming children. they are not pedophiles. why would you say that democrats democrats support even joe biden, the president himself, supports children being sexualized and having

transgender surgeries. sexualizing children is what pedophiles due to children. congressman, how do you even respond to that? well, first of all, erin, you can put me in the category of people that thinks that it was a very big mistake. the platform somebody like marjorie taylor green. this isn't a policy debate. this isn't a situation where you have people of like minds who can differ on the margins on issues and facts. marjorie taylor green is not well. she's not well. she's a kunin conspiracy theorist. she incites violence, and it's not okay to the platform. somebody like that and like we're just having a discussion on a sunday evening with friends, that's not what's happening here. she is a dangerous person who is going to try to incite violence this week because usually she has a history of doing it, and we should all be able to agree on that, regardless of your political affiliation. alright well, congressman cry. appreciate your time. thank you very much. thank you. alright.

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the moment a massive blast ripped through a saint petersburg cafe, wounding dozens and killing prominent russian military blogger madeline tatar ski. this video shows the run up to the blast as tatar ski received a statuette authorities believed was laced with explosives allegedly given to him by this woman, daria trip over now in custody. in an interrogation video released by russian investigators. they asked if she knew why she was detained, says forgiving tatar ski the statuette. it's not clear whether trip over was being coerced to speak in the video, but russian authorities released images showing a woman looking like trip over entering the cafe before the blast. after giving the box with the statuette to the host over went to a different part of the room. a witness says investigators asked her where she got the statuette from which she declines to answer. the kremlin

called the killing an act of terror, and investigators say they believe ukrainian intelligence agencies and the organization of jailed opposition leader alexei navalny were involved. supporters of navalny have denied that while ukraine has brushed off the allegations altogether. flatland tatar skis. real name was maxim foma. military bloggers like him have become extremely influential since russia's full on invasion of ukraine. starsky was a staunch supporter of the war but sometimes critical of russia's military leadership, which he felt was not effective enough. we will beat everyone, we will kill everyone. we will rob everyone who needs to be robbed. everything will be the way we love god is with us, he said. inside the kremlin after russia annexed for ukrainian regions last year. the st petersburg cafe that was blown up, was once affiliated with the head of the vagner private

military company, the spearhead of russia's efforts to take mahmoud in eastern ukraine. wagner boss yevgeny production even commemorating the bloggers , death administrator behind me is the bomb mood city administrative building, he says . this is a russian flag, it says on the flag in good memory of lapland. tatar ski, russia's pro war establishment fields. it's under attack, starsky was acquainted with hard line political scientists. daria do ghana who was assassinated in moscow last year. the kremlin, then also pointing its finger at kiev. this is a regime that has been behind killings for many years since 2014, the kremlin spokesman said. this is why the special military operation is being carried out. and thanks so much for fred pleitgen for that report as we get more as i said that she's going to be appearing

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and he and some of your friends who everyone can understand. you know what he's like. it's got to be incredibly difficult to hear russian state media describing his detainment. i mean, how does it even make you feel to hear this and to be in this situation? yeah it's really it's really hard. um it's confusing honestly, because looking at these photos of getting really happy. he's my. he's my best friend. he's he's my favorite friend. he's a best friend. a guy could ask for, um and so i'm looking at these photos and he's stuck in prison. ah ah ah, and so it's really confusing. it feels surreal. ah! it almost hasn't set in yet, but we need to really kind of dig into that feeling because it's real. he could be there for 20 years, and that's terrifying. absolutely terrifying and again. right now , the only source of anything we have is russian state media, so we do know solitary confinement and then they're you know, acting as if he's cheerful there . um and as you describe chuck,

he's your best friend. you were you talked to him or you know you were in touch with him the day before he was detained. i know it was quick. but you said he cracked a joke, and you were you know, talking texting? what can you tell us about that? um, not much. it was just the college friends group chat, and he sent a meme or something like that. and uh, it's just crazy that the next day he was getting booked in a restaurant russia now he's in jail. and of course he was doing his job, right? he was doing some reporting. we understand on military facilities and, you know, we spoke to an attorney who has extensive experience representing journalists who have been persecuted prosecuted in russia, and he has spoken to people who know evan in russia. so this was this was sort of someone who knows the most that we could find, and here's what he said about evan's case. elano desantis. unfortunately there are practically no chances for

him to win the case or for his acquittal in modern russia. basically what he's saying is that you're not gonna win this in court. that's not the way this is going to go. is this essentially a prisoner swap? that's the way that this would happen? i mean, is that your understanding right now? you know, obviously you're his best friend. i know you're in touch with other friends, his family that a prisoner swap is the way he would be released. ah i don't think i can speak on that. um i'm if anything over professional on evan, i'm not a foreign affairs professional, and so really, what we're trying to do is just keep the focus on evan right now and who he is and what he was doing over there, and what he was doing was his dream. this was his dream job, evan. wanted to travel the world meet people tell their story. evan believes in the free press , and he believes that a just society is built on that. and so that's what he was doing on in russia. and that's it's just a

shame. it's heartbreaking. and i know you and his other friends have been brainstorming on what to do. what? what can you tell us about? you know your efforts so far? ah right. so we're all we're all banding together and we've put together an email so people can contact evan. all of the letters he receives need to be written in russian. and so we're having his friends in russia, translate those letters and deliver them to the prison because we've heard some for some from some former inmates that that's really the one thing that keeps you going in there so and that makes such a difference because you just don't know you don't know how long and what to do anything just to bully his spirits. well, thank you so much for coming on and talking about evan really appreciate it. thank you. and thanks so much to all of you for joining us cnn tonight with alison camerata is next. double check that pretty good. yes crying. are you taking

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