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highlights this morning. ah barbara hits theaters july 21st one. her brother's discovery is the parent company of cnn to do incredibly well, it is everyone is talking about is amazing. actually it does together. that's all i got. what i have to say cnn this morning continues right now. no one has ever seen this before. in the united states, a former president sitting at the defense table inside a criminal courtroom, the only crime that i have committed is to fearlessly defend our nation from those who seek to destroy it is frustrated. he's upset, but i'll tell you what he's motivated cannot and will not normalized serious criminal conduct. i have a trump hating judge with the trump hating wife and family. speaking of someone who very strongly does not want donald trump to get the republican presidential nomination. i'm extraordinarily distressed by this document. i
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think this is even weaker than i feared it would be. a motion to dismiss is coming on several grounds. this case won't see a jury. in my opinion, no one is above the law, and that includes donald j. trump. morning good morning. reaction to yesterday has really been something. yeah how do you really put this into context? i'm not sure if we know at this point, i think there's a lot more that's going to play out, but certainly historic, unprecedented, stunning. i think one of the problems for the american people for everyone right now is the fact that they there is a lot that they don't know. keep being what's the underlying crime that makes this makes 34 counts of felony? that's not in here, right? and so transport currency is of the utmost importance in this moment, and we don't we don't know one of the big things, but we should also not downplaying. i think we are, but i think we should point out that the images coming out of 100 center street
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were there, but the picture is if we have the photograph to show the president came when you you know you were commenting on this. it was stunning to see him to show the former president in court sitting behind a defendant's table in custody under arrest. there it is. it is a stunning image to see an expression on his face. caitlin it's it definitely is to go from seeing him at the white house as president to see him entering the manhattan criminal court building yesterday was really something and what we in the courtroom. what was it like in the building? i was listening to your coverage. but what was it like to be in there as he left? so we were in the hallway, the 15th 15th floor. you know the building and we were on the 15th floor waiting for him to comment, seeing if he was going to speak to reporters. obviously he did not, but just remarkable to see him come in, obviously a very angry expression. as you can see from the video that we got. of him walking in walking into that room with his attorneys. yeah not answering any questions as the first step is the first time that that i know of that donald trump has
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been shy in front of a camera or a microphone. he didn't want to take any questions as he walked through him leaving. he did pause for a moment. which made me think he was gonna take questions for a moment. what did you think he was going to say something is there i don't know if you can hear a familiar voice shouting in the background. yes we can. yeah, but that was, you know, playing out on every single network yesterday and we got in so early. the newspapers weren't even here yet, and i'm sure it's the image on every single paper in the country. the former president lashing out at the criminal charges against him, right? he did speak a lot last night, just hours after his arrest. in new york city. he gave this defiant primetime speech right when he returned home to mar-a-lago and southern florida. he went on to slam the judge and the district attorney . he cast himself as a political victim of persecution. god bless you. i never thought anything like this. could happen in america. never thought it could happen. this fake case was
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brought only to interfere with the upcoming 2024 election. and it should be dropped immediately. i have a trump hating judge with the trump hating wife and family. so sources tell cnn trump was upset after the arraignment and surrounded himself with his his admirers at mar-a-lago. he barely spoke when he was in court. he did plead himself not guilty to those 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. prosecutors say that he orchestrated a hush money scheme to cover up alleged affairs with an adult film actress in a playboy model. trump looked somber. he did not speak to reporters at the courthouse. his next court hearing is not until december. about two months we should know before the iowa caucuses yeah, so not a lot of words from trump. yesterday, he did utter about fewer than a dozen when he was inside that
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courtroom. he did speak a lot last night, where christian homes is in west palm beach, florida near his mar-a-lago resort, kristen. i mean, obviously we had an idea of what that would be what that speech would look like it was actually shorter than a lot of his rally speeches. but what were your main takeaways when it came to not only what he what he was saying about the charges from yesterday but also attacking the judge after the judge specifically asked them not to attack people like the judge. okay. then as you know, it's not surprising. he is going to say what he wants to say. and it was particularly the crowd that he was saying it to. he was not in front of a mixed crowd. he was in front of maga supporters. there were members of bikers for trump club 45. there were his some of his staunchest allies were there. matt gates? marjorie taylor green? actually, he had dinner with them. afterwards he surrounded himself by all of these admirers. i'm told that's because he was upset after this emotional day, and as you said he did not only just lash out of
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the district attorney and at the judge. he also talked about all of the investigations into him. take a listen i got a local ract democrat district attorney in atlanta. who is doing everything in her power to indict me. over an absolutely perfect phone call. a case was brought only to interfere with the upcoming 2024 election. and it should be dropped immediately. lunatic special prosecutor named jack smith i wonder what it was prior to a change. who others of his ilk say. he is even worse than they are. is only looking at trump get your biden took massive amounts more documents. and we don't need to break every single one of those claims down, but clearly here, he's not going after the substance of all these cases, he's attacking jack smith, saying that he might have
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had a different name. obviously to laughter there. he's going after the district attorneys and that is the game plan here. this is all going to be a political fight. they are looking at this through the 2024 lens. and as we continue to know, because i just don't think we can say this enough. not only did trump bring his own videographer with him on the plane to get the behind the scenes look at this. payment they also while he was in arraignment, issued a fundraising email with a mock up. a manufactured image of his mug shot to raise money, so they are all in on this as a political fighting chip as they go into 2024. yeah certainly in the judge seemed to indicate you know, there could be a gag order placed here, but obviously the fact that he is a presidential candidate campaigning that plays a big factor into all of this christian homes in palm beach, florida. thank you lots more to discuss, and i'm sure you're gonna be interested in this because with more perspective now i want to bring in michael rafael feld. he is a pulitzer prize. winning his work helped to trigger this whole investigation, so we're so glad to have him. he is also the
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author of the fixers, the bottom feeders, crooked lawyers, gossip mongers and porn stars who created the 45th president. we're so happy that you're here . thank you for doing this because let's start with accounts right there. 34 of these counts of falsifying business records in the first degree after working on this story for years, did you think that this day would ever come? actually no, because this you know the federal authorities were investigating this state charged michael cohen. donald trump was president. he couldn't be charged. and then you know, after he left office, it did not seem like it was going to happen. and then alvin bragg resuscitated the case. so i didn't think it was going to happen. and in the context that we have now related to the invoices, relates to the texaco and relate to cohen relates to the ledger entries. did you know specifically or have some idea where this might go? well as my colleagues at the times were reporting on what the grand jury was going to indict him for and what the d a was going to charge him with. we did know that was
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going to be falsifying business records and all of this, this scheme to repay cohen and disguise the repayments for the stormy daniels payment as legal fees. that was known from the beginning, so let's go. let's go to them. the punishment there it is right there money cases in the trump indictment of sarah mcdougall, but this is a check that you were referencing that these are this is the evidence here, right? right. and you can see that you know donald trump. signs these checks himself. i mean, his signature is eligible . some of the checks were signed by other people. i believe alan weisberg, his cfo may have signed some of them or donald trump jr right, but some of these michael cohen says were signed when trump was in the white house people who are saying well, you know, even with this the case isn't strong. it would have it. does that matter at this point, because it does show that the former president was involved that y solberg was involved in. there were others who were involved in this yeah,
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i mean, falsifying business records is a pretty common charge in new york state, and clearly, michael cohen did not perform legal fees. he paid stormy daniels off and he was repaid with these sort of phony checks for legal fees so that that seems like a pretty open, straightforward case. the you know, the question is to elevate this to a felony in new york state, you have to show that he had the intent to conceal another crime and that crime alvin bragg yesterday suggested it could be a state or federal election law violation some kind of a tax charge, but, you know, he didn't specify that and i think he just has to show that he had the intent to do that. let's talk about what's in the indictment because the indictment does not name the alleged crimes trump was trying to conceal but brag at his press conference referred to violating state election law. did this surprise you? no because i mean that while the state or federal election law we don't really know exactly what might be said
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at the trial, but the whole purpose of this alleged scheme was to influence the 2016 election for donald trump and to silence these women, karen macdougal and stormy daniels. the indictment itself only deals with the stormy daniels repayment, but in this accompanying statement of facts , alvin bragg lays out this larger scheme of hush money payments to help donald trump during the 2016 election. and these are this is a these are all the three people who are right to be involved in. that's right. we understand what happened with stormy daniels. that was $130,000. this is $150,000. but go on and explain this because the doorman thing people are a bit confused about that, right. well so trump is alleged to have conspired with david pecker, who ran the national enquirer. and the doorman dino. his name is dino, said juden. he came to the enquirer with a story of trump having a love child, which he apparently did not have, but in order to prevent the doorman he
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used to work at trump tower from talking about this during the election, the enquirer paid him $30,000, and he had to remain quiet. let me just before we go as you have been watching all the coverage in the analysis here. is this something that we're missing people saying it's not a strong case. i don't understand. they're not. they're not listening and underlying crime. are we missing anything with this? what would you like to point out? um, i again just that this is a very common charge in new york state. many people are charged with falsifying business records. and so what the d a has said, is that you know donald trump is no different than them. i mean, it doesn't. it's not really that unusual, except for the fact that he was the president of the united states and no former president has been charged before. but you know that isn't that doesn't necessarily make him immune to prosecution. michael thank you. i appreciate you joining us. michael rothfeld, poppy. alright, that was helpful. thank you guys joining us now cnn political commentator and political anchor for spectrum news, errol louis and cnn legal analyst and former
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manhattan chief assistant district attorney karen friedman , magnifico. thank you both for being here, karen. let me let me just start with you your piece in the times this morning with normalized and it's really interesting. the headline is we finally know the case against trump. and it's strong. that's a different position than even some of trump's most vehement opponents who say this is weak. i think we can agree. it's incomplete, right? because we don't know what that underlying crime is a braga's pointing to but why do you think it's so strong? i think it's strong because in addition to the indictment that was filed, they also filed a statement of facts , which pages 13 pages of a statement. effects was really details, the evidence and the charges and the theory of the case against him, and it's clear that they have a lot of corroboration here. you've got not just the word of michael cohen. you've got michael cohen . you've got david pecker, who was the ceo of the national enquirer, and they had a conspiracy, the three of them to
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catch and kill negative stories . during the time of the presidential election, and it's and they have proof they have emails, text messages, recordings. and so and the timing really shows that that's the case. and so i think when you put it all together from an evidentiary purpose, i think it's a very strong case that of course, there are legal arguments that can be made and challenges by the defense, and we haven't seen the witnesses testify under oath and be cross examined yet, but that's typical of every case just from a from what we know now standpoint, it's certainly a strong as any other case that gets brought in state courts in new york, and i think it's important what you know that the conviction for the trump organization for alan weisberg, who was the chief financial officer for the trump organization, that's who trump keeps referencing were business falsification were part of those charges and those convictions. trump keeps attacking the judge
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here, even though the judge asked both sides yesterday not to do that trump went after him last night as this trump heating judge, you know, judge marshawn what is your view of how he's going to handle this? how does he handle trump going after him ? like he did. so judge marshawn is a very fair minded judge. he's known as judges. judge you know he's not a prosecution judge or a defense judge. he really calls balls and strikes and really tries to maintain the integrity of the courtroom and the proceeding. he's certainly a professional, and so he's not going to take any attacks against him or his family and then allow that to color his judgment in court because he is a true professional. that being said. those types of attacks could potentially taint a future jury pool and the integrity of the process. and that's the thing the judge is not going to stand for. and if trump doesn't rein it in, i think the judge
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you will see the judge singing a different tune. gorder you think gag orders tricky because he's mr trump is running for president and in addition to normal first amendment rights, there are there are it's like a double first amendment right because he's running for public offices with the judge said yes, it's really hard. hard to issue a gag order in this case, but certainly it's in the cards if it starts to taint the proceeding. oh, you wrote, you know, basically, don't underestimate alvin bragg. within now, you have all this criticism even after the indictment has been unsealed that this doesn't seem like a strong case, and they're not showing any underlying crime here. so what is your assessment ? now it's interesting. it's kind of peculiar. some people seem disappointed that the crimes weren't more lurid. they seem disappointed that there wasn't more drama for them. you know, almost personally. it is you think you know, i'm i'm not sure what it is. i think there may be something about the trump effect. right there. this is like the season opener. right?
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this is you know, this is all drama. this is all television. this is all hollywood. and that, of course, is what he was. but at the same time, you know, we have a very important sort of commercial docket. this is what the district attorney was saying at his press conference yesterday that you know he's going after 117 people just in the last year around falsification of business records, it may not matter outside of manhattan, but it matters a lot in manhattan. this is a big part of what this office does. and so you know, for donald trump to sort of, say, well, well, this doesn't matter. this is politically motivated. he's going to say that he's the defendant. for others. i'm a little baffled by this to say this doesn't matter whether or not it was a crime, and it's like well, it seems to matter to the grand jury. it matters to the prosecutor. i think alvin bragg made a compelling case that it matters because new manhattan in particular is the business center of the world and the transactions have got to be kept straight. there are other jurisdictions that are somewhat like that you go to chance record in delaware. they take a lot of these things very seriously, so companies are incorporated there. it's a it's
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a it's a real case. there's a real defendant. there's a real problem here. and if people think that, you know, i mean, by the way, this is not the first time that donald trump has been accused of cheating in relationship to his campaign. i mean, the trump foundation case , and that his charitable foundation had to be dissolved. they've done a fundraiser and spent millions of dollars and they admitted to this ultimately , before they dissolve the foundation. they use part of the money for his 2016 campaign, and it happened to be done by the same district attorney's office that alvin brad came attorney general's office. that alvin bragg came out of. so this is this is sort of a pattern. i think we're going to hear more of this as it develops, but again for people who are disappointed. i don't know if the tardiness of the crime or the smallness of it in some respect is anybody's fault except the people who are engaged today. can you help us understand? uh two quick things. why now? when stevenson pursue it, then alvin bragg last year in pursuance of why now? because
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i don't think we learned that from the indictment and then secondly, why would brag not put everything on the table? why wouldn't you tell us? what makes these felonies so i'm going to start with the second question first. it's funny when i read this. i feel he did tell us. tell us told us that the participants violated election laws and that they mischaracterized these payments for tax purposes. and that tells us everything we need to know about what the crimes are. what the criminal intent was because alvin bragg doesn't have to prove which crime at the end of the day. the crime doesn't even have to be committed or started or intended intended, and that they meaning they meant to commit a crime or conceal a crime. and so i feel like he told us everything we needed to know in the statement of facts, can i jump in? because i think the crux of it. i was saying to poppy earlier, i said, i said, i believe they are telling us, especially on page seven, where he talks about the four $120,000 to michael cohen. it seems that
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they were upping the amount that they were paying him so that he could reported as income. exactly. that would be a violation of the tax code. whether or not he did it, he reported. it the intent was was there for them to that it was fraudulent. and am i correct in that absolutely correct and an analogy that i think is easy to understand is in the context of a burglary. burglary is a trespass which is a misdemeanor , right? you enter and remain unlawfully somewhere. but what makes it a crime? i'm sorry. a felony is if you intended to commit a crime there in and so somebody can walk into your apartment and get stopped and arrested right there before they committed a crime across secure has to prove that they went in there to commit a crime. you don't know which one it is. could it could have been a sexual assault. it could have been a violent crime. it could have been to take something and you look at the surrounding evidence. did he have a burglar's tools? or did he have a knife? you look at the surrounding evidence and you make an argument to the jury, and the jury just has to say oh,
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yes, there was criminal intent there. he wasn't going into sleep. right so that's what bumps it from a misdemeanor to a felony. this is not a foreign concept in state court, and i don't think that they're going to have a problem proving that if the evidence holds up at trial, and to answer your other question, why now the statute of limitations is about to run in may and the reason it wasn't brought before savants spoke over the weekend that the southern district asked. stand down. they had it in hand. and so he savants went with a different case. that was bigger and more voluminous, and that's why there's just walked away from it. and about a year ago to the chagrin of some of his prosecutors, who quit as a result, partially what he walked away from what was presenting the bigger valuation of assets case at that time wanted all he wanted was more time to review it. and when he did, this is the
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one that had legs and it's going to expire the statute of mutations in a month, so it was now or never for this case, important context and brag, did say yesterday that press conference that he got new information. even since this investigation we didn't know publicly, at least about david pecker. being invited to the white house. we thanked for how he helped trump during the campaign. unfortunately we're out of time, errol karen. thank you both. you have amazing perspective on this, so i really appreciate your insight. thank you. also this morning, newly released video shows the moment an officer jumped in the back seat of a car and shot and killed a teenager as he sped off the deadly encounter in washington, d c will tell you next. thank you guys. right now. we're keeping our eye on severe weather happening across the midwest and south, same areas hit by strong storms just yesterday. cnn this morning brought to you by far sega visit us f for sega dot com foror mori
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a car happened in d. c was last month when officers responding to a suspicious vehicle near a federal park. want to bring in now our correspondent sunlen serfaty has been has seen this video and she joins us now. good morning to you, sunlen. break down this video for us. please don. this is certainly very disturbing. new video was just released by the u. s parks, police and the d. c metropolitan police and it reveals some additional details about a shooting that happened here in d. c on the morning of march 19th. now this is body cam footage from officers from both of the agencies who responded to this incident and again. the video that we're about to play is very disturbing. police say that the vehicle that you see here that white vehicle was believed to be stolen and inside was 17 year old delaney. oh, martin, please say he was asleep in the parked car. the video shows as you can see here, police in the moments before hand discussing ways to get into the car to arrest him and at one
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point in officer opens the back door to get in. well another officer opens the front driver door. the footage shows the car suddenly drive off and one of the park police officers is still in the backseat of the car and yells for him. to stop. there's a test cell. and then these are the moments. don't move. don't move. don't move. stop. just let me out! stop shoot! now. that is the moment when the video shows the officer fired numerous shots. the car seconds later crashes into a nearby home in the video shows police pulling martin afterwards out to try to revive him with
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cpr. now they were unsuccessful . police say he died at the scene important to note here the parks police says there is an investigation into the incident . it's being handled by the metropolitan police and they say, also being reviewed by the u. s attorney's office here in d. c none of the officers involved have been identified by in the agency and the parks. police don would not confirm the status of the officer who shot shot martin now meantime, the family of is really pushing for the officer here to be identified, prosecuted and they want him fired. on the end of this. we will definitely hear more. thank you so much. i appreciate that investigators in central florida are seeking the public's help in solving the shooting deaths of three teenagers in the state. their bodies were found in three different locations over three days last week, the marion county sheriff says he believes that killings are connected. but does not believe there is a serial killer on the loose. all of our victims are known or have were known to know each other. and we're together leading up to
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the incident itself. there's a possibility of hybrid gangs and that's about it. i can't tell you who's associated let's go to our carla suarez live in miami. three teenagers in three days. what's the latest? poppy. good morning. so the merrion connie sheriff's office says they've got 15 detectives working this case as you mentioned these three bodies were found last week. thursday friday and saturday in marion county. that's about an hour and a half drive north of orlando. the first victim was identified as 16 year old leila silver nail. her body was found on the side of a road. according to a go fund me page for that teenager, she enjoyed playing softball and was a student athlete. the following day on friday, the body of a 17 year old boy was also found on the side of another road. not too far from where silver nail was found. and then on saturday, a 16 year old girl the body of that girl was
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found inside of a car that was submerged in some water, the sheriff in marion county says that it appears the victims they all knew each other. and that they were all together at some point before they were killed. now there is no indication at this hour that we're dealing with a serial killer or that there any more victims out there , the sheriff in marion county said that some of these rumors have been circulating online. and so they are trying to dispel that one final note poppy when the sheriff was pressed on what he meant by a hybrid gang, he essentially said that they're dealing with what they believe are want to be a gangs, whether or not these three tim's were part of one or whether they were killed by one is still to be determined. they need answers for their families. for sure, carlos thanks very much. also just in this morning. we have new video that you can see here out of missouri. that is where you're from the south and the midwest. you know how dangerous tornadoes hitting at night is a tornado touched down there overnight. this happened in glenallen sold 90 miles south of
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imprint dot com and finds him wow now imprint for certain. solomon in new york, and this is cnn. this morning. there is a potential sea change for politics in wisconsin. cnn is now projecting that the democrats backed janet, part of say, wits will win the state supreme court race that is hugely significant. it means liberals will now hold the majority on that court. that is the first time it's happened in 15 years, and it could be one of the most consequential elections of this year for abortion access and potentially election rules in a key swing state. not only that just south and chicago, cnn also projects that progressive democrat brandon johnson is going to succeed lord lightfoot as the mayor of chicago last night, he defeated the more moderate candidate in that race . paul vallas. this is what johnson told his supporters
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after his win last night. with our voices and our votes. we have ushered in a new chapter in the history of our city, a city where you can thrive regardless of who you love or how much money you have in your bank account. city. that's truly safer for everyone by investing in what actually works to prevent crime. make no mistake about it. chicago is a union town. for more perspective on this i want to bring in cnn political commentators van jones and jonah goldberg. good morning to you both. and thank you for being here. let's start with what we heard brandon johnson saying there in chicago. he had very little name recognition. at the beginning of this, he overcame a very big margin. they're proud, proud, proud, you know, but school teacher union guy you know he's going up against somebody who's to say hey, we're gonna use cops for everything he's like we're going
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to use. cops were also going to help people. how about that? and it worked in chicago outfit explains chicago. it's blue. yes black. yes blue with cops, police officers, heavily minority city and it's blue, democrat wise, vallis had said at one point, you know, sort of that he was a republican relating in some way, it's sensibilities. and then johnson has said i am progressive. he stuck with being blue. so that explains what happened. look there are parts of chicago very tough when it comes to crying. yeah question for that city was are you gonna go with? you know cops only approach or you're gonna go with cops and helping folks approach and even in chicago. even with the crime wave, everything is going on. people chose. i thought an option that shows that progressive still can make a case in a big, tough town. and when let's talk about wisconsin. and what happened there the via 10 point margin you saw janet per se wits. take this seat now on the supreme court, flip the balance to more liberal for 10
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years at in a year when they're going to consider this. i think it's 18 94 abortion law and try to get it off the books there. how big is that win for liberals in the state? and what does it say about abortion and driving factor in 2024? look, i think it's a huge deal. you know, i grew up with conservatives who in wisconsin who literally grow up, but professionally i grew up . you know, wisconsin conservatives really well, they value the supreme court seats. extremely this is a very painful loss for conservatives in wisconsin, and it's a demonstration. look there's this whole theory that has sort of in sourcing parts of the right that they can win every election just with the kinds of people who cheered at the trump mar-a-lago rally last night. and the chasm between the base republicans and the persuadable middle is just turning into a just a massive chasm and, um, the wisconsin showing shows that actually when
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it comes to, like grassroots organizing and getting out the base, the democrats are much more competitive than republicans realize in this climate. and republicans who don't have a strategy about winning the people on the margins on the middle. um i'm just gonna get drubbed. also i just think it's like important, uh, politics in that state has been really weaponized. the right wing really grab power. use it under scott walker. they'd say, look, we have this much power. we're going to act like we've got everything and it's been really, really tough and the supreme court has been on the side of that kind of right wing strategy. so this is a turning of the tide against that sort of weaponization of politics, i think and i think it's a really big deal going around on both sides came in with this much margin in the house, and he ruled like government like this american problem. we can argue about what's happening level but i will tell you this in wisconsin. it's been really, really tough.
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it's scott walker came in there. he broke unions. he broke the he broke china. and it's been that way for a long time is the first time progress has been able to get back in the fight that could potentially change the political direction of wisconsin because the country when it comes to gerrymandering, the judge has been very outspoken on that. i talked to some wisconsin republicans last night. did they do they feel like they dropped the ball here, though, because this is i mean, we saw what a key role the wisconsin supreme court played in 2024, where they could have gone with that, depending on what the majority looked like. i think it's gonna be a lot of soul searching in wisconsin in wisconsin, where i agree with van is that like wisconsin used to be the play nice and politics state, and it is no longer that it is a scorched earth thing. they and a lot of republicans in that state feel like everything that they had they were entitled to in perpetuity. and this is gonna send shock waves through wisconsin for a while now trump so who? so the whole thing? the whole play here is. what does it do for him politically, i know that you guys don't have crystal
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balls. but what do you think it even after the indictment? there are questions. is it strong cases and that we just had a full discussion here on on this program? help or hurt in your assessment after watching yesterday, i think yesterday both sides did some damage to themselves. in other words, um it could prove that this indictment is as strong as alvin is saying it is. it's all going to work out. but yesterday there was a sense of disappointment. people thought this indictment was going to come down. it's going to be a big gamble dropped on trump's head, and it felt a little light. and there's people still asking questions about it late into the night, and even this morning, that's a little bit of a letdown and then trump he had an opportunity to hear the whole world's washington he could have said look not only my own victim. you're a victim, too. let's all get together. he went down some crazy rabbit hole of grievance and nonsense. and i think that neither side really advanced the cause as much they could have yesterday. but on both sides is that is that disappointment. is that a tv pundit not to call you out here. is that a tv pundit disappointment because people at home who love trump probably are saying the speech was great. i'm
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so glad he did it people at home who wanted to see him indicted or probably saying, i'm so glad that he was indicted. i think that's where and that's what i was getting out before about how what the base wants of the republican party versus what gets you a majority in the general election. is changing really rapidly. and so that stuff was catnip for the base that just wants to sort of hard core grievance trump stuff. but look, trump had the option to take the high road here, right? i mean, like he had this option where all the legal analysts were saying, this is not as big a deal as we think it is. and instead of taking the high road, he went crazy low, and i don't think that that sort of i think that strategy is very good for trump and for his fundraising. i think it's terrible for the republican party. um and the but i do think. look, i think the average american sees donald trump as like a guy who's been juggling chainsaws all his life and he cut off a finger. that's what's gonna happen if you always juggling chainsaws. it kind of deserves this even though legally, they're not sure passes mustard. we'll see. van jones, jonah. thank you both for
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being here. conversation not to call you out, then. no so much more than a tv. so we were talking about what happened in chicago last night straight ahead in our eight o'clock hour, the mayor a like of chicago, brandon johnson is going to join us live here on cnn this morning. those help wanted signs are slowly starting to come down the new jobs data that could be a positive sign in the fight against inflation will tell you about that. mm. hmm. love is bigger than ever. three rows. subaru ascent , dog tested dog approved love
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opening spell. 278,000 healthcare fell 150,000, transportation, warehousing and utilities also falling. so to put this all in context, 9.9 job openings lower than we have seen certainly in about two years. still higher, however, than before the pandemic. we can show you before the pandemic. we were closer to 7.2 million job openings so still elevated by historical standards, but certainly declining, right. so what does this mean for jobseekers? well, if you were looking for a job, the labor market is certainly cooling. so keep that in mind plan accordingly, it might be harder to get a job as the months go on. if you were the fed. it certainly means that maybe all of these interest rate hikes are starting to work major week for the labor market. i should say we get some important data and just about 45 minutes from adp that'll tell us about private employers. and then friday, guys it's the biggie. we get the jobs report and that will tell us a bit more to yeah, we'll be watching. thanks thanks for help . so three tennessee state lawmakers could soon lose their
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chamber this time over the possible removal of three democratic lawmakers that vote by the way to decide if they're going to lose their job. that vote happens tomorrow. one of those lawmakers is representative justin jones. he posted this video to social media and says it shows republican state representative justin lafferty pushing him and grabbing his phone. police are reportedly looking into that matter. i should note that representative lafferty has put out a statement saying quote jones came to my desk, and as i turned, he shoved his phone into my face and threatened a threatening manner. i reacted as anyone would attempt to characterize this as anything else or misleading and false. so with me now is democratic state representative justin jones, who represent nashville represented jones. thank you very much. i want to keep our eye focused on what's happening, right? we wanted to explain that confrontation to our to our viewers. but you're at risk of losing your job tomorrow. if you lose your job for taking the floor and the way you did to
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call for more action on guns would have been worth it. well, thank you so much for having me on today, and i think it's morally insane that a week after a mass shooting took six precious lives in my community here in nashville, um, my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. their first action is not to take action to rein in this proliferation of weapons of war in our streets, but it's to expel their colleagues were standing with our constituents. and so this is not just about losing. my job is about silence, the voices of over 70,000 people in my district all together the three of us represent over 200,000 people whose voices are being taken and silenced by a party. that is, is acting like authoritarians. it's very concerning and it represents a clear and present danger to democracy all across this nation that should trouble us all. the response from the republicans speaker says that your actions actually took the focus off the victims of that shooting. those six victims took the focus off their families. this is a pair of tweets. from our you know,
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took took the focus off the voices of other protesters, and i wonder how you respond to that. but we went up to the well because our people were continually silenced. protesters were silenced. the speaker of the house refused to let any member speak on the issue of guns. and so he shut down democratic debate. and so we found a way to get in the way into getting good trouble, and john lewis called it because that's what was needed that he was shutting the microphone off the movement of the people, and that's why we had a megaphone because he shut off the microphone on the people and the speaker of the house is now once again trying to silence voices by trying to oust us voices of opposition voice. he's trying to hold him accountable for his proliferation of guns that he promotes in his policies. and so what are you going to do if you lose your seat? meaning? you know, you lose that megaphone, right? you lose your vote. the three of you. well, this is not
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about us individually. this is about silencing a movement and so we i believe that this is unconstitutional that our state constitution article two gives gives. um representative right to dissent from and protest against legislation and actions that are injurious to the people . article two section 27. so we, you know, we believe that we were acting the spirit of our state constitution in the united states constitution to voice the concerns and grievances of our constituents. that's why thousands of people gathered with us on thursday once again and monday, and they'll be back this thursday when we're house that when they threatened to oust us because the people are saying that this is an attack on democracy. this is an attack on the voice calling for action to rein in its proliferation of weapons of war on our streets, and so this is this is should concern people all across the nation. they can silence lawmakers. they can silence anybody, you know anyone else? that's interesting. that's going to be it sounds like your legal argument to fight this expulsion article two section 27. i'll just say for our viewers and get your response. finally article two section 12 of the tennessee constitution says that very clearly that house members
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representatives can be punished for disorderly behavior and that's what they say you were doing. and i just want to know that this is only the third expulsion since the civil war in the tennessee house of representatives. the last explosion was for sexual harassment. 22 counts in 2016 represented german durham exposure before that, in 1980 was for a recording of a lawmaker taking $1000 bribe for his vote. and so they're saying that our actions of first amendment activity of standing with our constituents demanding common sense, gun control is equal and equivalent to those crimes and unethical behavior. that's what they're saying, and it sets a very dangerous precedent that any voice of opposition or dissent can be ousted. welcome from the from from a democratic body democratically elected body. i'm sorry. didn't mean to step on you there a little bit of a delay. but look, i know you're the youngest democratic lawmaker in the state house right now. i know you ran largely because of gun violence. we appreciate your time. and of course, we'll be watching very closely tomorrow to see what happens in that expulsion vote. tennessee representative jones. thank you.
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