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least 12 have been fired so far in the last 24 hours. the israeli military responding with airstrikes condemnations from egypt, jordan, saudi arabia against what's been happening at al aqsa. and as you noted, the american office of palestinian affairs, saying violence has no place in a holy site during the holy season, saying they're alarmed by the shocking scenes both both at al aqsa and the rockets coming out of gaza, calling for restraint and de escalation. keep in mind alex that it was a very similar sort of situation. the clashes at al aqsa that helped lead to that 11 day war between israel and hamas in 2021 a lot of fears that this could once against spiral into something similar. alex alright, hadas gold in jerusalem. thank you very much for that report. i'm alex marquardt. here in the situation room. thank you very much for watching and to all those celebrating happy passover. erin burnett outfront starts right now. outfront next mike pence headed to the witness stand and the doj january 6th
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investigation as trump's former white house layer. ty cobb says he believes trump could be charged and convicted by the next election. cobb is outfront plus an elite high ranking russian officer defects. now he's speaking out about putin's health paranoia is rumored girlfriend and you'll hear how the officer escaped putin's tight grip. plus an outfront exclusive tonight inside one of america's most advanced nuclear submarines, unable to descend hundreds of feet in just seconds and alert for threats from china. let's go, outfront. and good evening. i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight pence cooperating a day after former president trump was indicted on 34 felony counts and accused of covering up a potential sex scandal, the former president today dealt another blow. his former president of former vice president mike pence, is making it clear he will now testify before a grand jury about his conversations with trump leading up to january 6th. never before has a former vice president complied with a criminal investigation subpoena to testify about their former boss
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, and that major development comes as we are also learning new information tonight about the private conversations between trump and his former top national security advisers. trump's former acting homeland security secretary and his deputy testifying before that dc grand jury, and they're saying that they repeatedly told trump that he did not have the authority to seize voting machines. this is very significant because sources have told cnn that trump's advisers drafted two versions of an executive order that would do just that sees voting machines. in fact, the idea of seizing voting equipment for a political purpose would be unprecedented in american history. so these two developments come as we are learning about new evidence in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. a case that, according to trump's former white house lawyer ty cobb, with whom i'll speak in a moment could be the most serious face case. trump is facing. cobb also saying a possible indictment there could come in weeks, and he believes trump could go to jail. in that case. there's so much to break down tonight. i want to begin with paula reid.
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she is outfront live in washington and paula. what are you learning about these two major developments tonight on the special counsel's investigation into january? 6th erin. it's an important reminder that while the new york cases the most immediate legal throughout the former president is facing that is not the most consequential legal investigation into the former president. because here in washington, d. c. as you noted, special counsel jack smith has multiple investigations and this one looking at trump's efforts to obstruct the 2020 election has now gotten an incredibly important witness in mike pence. this will be the first time that pence will testify under oath about this pressure campaign that he was facing from the former president and his allies . this is something that investigators have been especially interested in. particularly one heated phone call between pence and former president trump and the threats that pence face from trump supporters on the day of the insurrection. now there is one important carve out that pence has here he does not have to answer any questions about
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things that he did on january 6th in his role as president of the senate. that's an important exception and aaron i think that's part of why they're not appealing here. he believes that that just getting that carve out was a constitutional victory for him. at this point. it is unclear when he will testify. but we know this comes as he is contemplating a run for the white house, and it would not be surprising to see trump lashed out at him just last night, just hours after the judge overseeing the manhattan case, told trump not to do anything that would incite violence. trump lashed out at the judge and his family , calling them quote trump haters. now today, trump's lawyer tried to insist that that was not any sort of threat. but we know anyone who's labeled trump hater could potentially come under threat of vinyl. alliance. so the judge overseeing the manhattan cases now in a very difficult position , it is hard to put a gag order on someone who is running for the presidency raises a lot of constitutional concerns. based on our reporting today, erin it's unclear if the former president is trying to get a gag order to amplify his messaging about political persecution or
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if he's trying to push to get this judge recused from the case . yeah just saying to see what will happen here. all right, paula, thank you very much. and i want to go now to tie. cobb the former white house attorney for trump and tie. let me just start with, you know paula's reporting that mike pence has is going to be testifying and he got the carve out he wanted. he's not going to talk about the day of january 6th. he's going to talk about leading up to that, so that is an important carve out. there's also the point, of course tie that pence has spoken out a lot about january 6th in a book in multiple interviews. so with all that being said, and the fact that he doesn't have to talk about the day of january 6th itself. how do you feel about this? is there something important still left for him to say that's new. i believe there is i mean, one indication is that he did not resort to the arguments that were available to him was regarded executive privilege under united states versus spr in ray s. p as it's known, which would be an
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argument that he has nothing left to add that people have already talked to everybody close to him. he can't add to that and the government should have to prove that they have no other sources that that was an opportunity available to him. but that really felt to trump because trump asserted executive privilege, not not the vice president, the vice president only asserted, you know the speech and debate privilege as it pertained to his legislative functions and as a creature of the house. i know that's something that was near and dear to his heart, something he strongly believes in having agreed to defend the constitution, and he won on that , and he's not appealing and he's ready to testify. i do believe there are conversations one on one between the president and the former vice president, whom i respect greatly. um that will shed additional light on the events of january 6th and will further what i believe he's
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being called for, which is the search into trump's intent on january. 6th um, i think i think that trump, i think defenses testimony will be significant. i think it'll be meaningful. it won't add a lot to what is already a mountain of evidence provided by pence by pence in through the books and other materials, but also through pence's. to cooperate. yes i do think this is very consequential for the president. i do think it's likely the president will be very critical of him. um and if i might just in connection with, you know the lead in i think your reporters you know completely accurate about the seriousness of trump, um, going after the judge and the judge is family and his daughter's job. um i will say if i had been a
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brag prosecutor, i would have had a narrowly tailored gag order on his desk first thing this morning limiting trump's ability to demean and threaten court officers and their families. and we're going to see what happens there because obviously, judge immersion was very took took a very conservative view on that, at least yesterday, right saying no , i you know that the burden is very high on this because he's running for office. now there is so much attention on the alvin bragg indictment tie. i do know , though, that you think that there is another and a bigger charge more significant charge about to come in the special counsel's investigation into the classified documents at mar-a-lago, and that you think that jack smith will charge trump with obstruction, and he's going to do that likely within 60 days. why that specific charge and why that at this point accelerated timeline. i think the so the specific charges because and the timeline as well or both, because the evidence is falling into place.
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so neatly, um, on on those offenses on the false statements to the fbi to the department of justice on the attempts to conceal documents both in connection with the grand jury subpoena and in connection um what with the post search events . um so i think that cases coming together rapidly and in a way that is virtually unassailable, and it may well overtake. i think it will well overtake. the january 6th investigation. keep in mind. there are two different grand juries on those two matters, and there's no obligation that they be brought at the same time. so i think that case is accelerating. i think the evidence you know it's coming over the transom, you know in waves, and it's all falling neatly into place. and it should not be difficult giving, given
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the fact that, uh, ever since the government noticed big gaps in the documents that trump had left at the white house and what he had previously known to have, including the letters from his, uh, you know, uh, friends in north korea ever since they started trying to get those documents and retrieve the classified documents there have been false statement after false statement. there has been, um, you know, failures to cooperate . there has been an attempt. yeah to have employees lie to people. so the evidence is building brick by brick, and there isn't a good brick in there for the former president. you think all this could happen just to be clear within the next 60 days charge? i do. i think the evidence has come together fast enough to that that could
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be easily charged. and if it is charged that quickly, i think it could, you know, quickly overtake. the bragg case as the lead case, most likely to get to trial before november of 2024. so just to be clear you think this one could end up being finished by then? so it is possible, given the way you see the evidence that trump could be convicted before the election and actually could be sentenced to jail time. i do believe that i was but the key word there being possible it's you know, it's not likely and nobody can say with certainty, but i think there is certainly a possibility at this stage of the game, given the strength of the evidence that that that jack smith has collected and is pursuing that that easily could could be charged within the next 60 days. all right. thank you very much tyco by. i appreciate it and just emphasize for everybody, right? you're talking here about an obstruction in the mar-a-lago
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documents. not the alvin bragg. not funny. willis uh, not insurrection related, right? this is just 11 specific thing. alright tie. thank you very much. i appreciate it. thank you . nice to be with you, aaron. alright and next one of the people included in trump's historic indictment is speaking to cnn. doorman who prosecutors say was paid $30,000 after alleging trump had a child from an extramarital affair. what are you saying? tonight will surprise you, and we will take you to a county that voted overwhelmingly for trump, and we're hearing from one democrat who is now in trump's camp because he believes trump spent unfairly targeted. and see firsthand what trench warfare looks like right now on the frontlines of ukraine. you might want to get down. okay, we are told. russian lines are just one kilometer from here. it's only for a little while, grandma as long as you want. all right, how
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million dollars from two donors and that money was used to conceal a mistress and her pregnancy during the presidential campaign for edwards, edwards argued that the payments were made to shield his family from embarrassment not to conceal the affair from voters out front. now karin agness follow the former chief assistant district attorney at the manhattan district attorney. the office and our legal analyst , and katie tarkovsky, a former federal prosecutor who is now a criminal defense and civil rights attorney. all right, thanks very much to both of you. and i should note with the doorman story just for those who wonder that when i'm the national enquirer looked into it, they found that it was not true, and that that they did not go ahead with it, but, um, katie, so this field prosecution against john edwards, it's not obviously apples to apples. but is it a risk to prosecutors in their case right now against trump that it could fail along the same lines and for some of the same argument? mintz. well, absolutely. i mean, the john edwards case has very similar facts in some ways, and it was a failed prosecution. and in fact, i think that the failed prosecution was really what prevented federal prosecutors
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from pursuing the case against trump because the issue in the john edwards case was, i think the intent i don't think they were able to prove that the intent of the payments was to influence the campaign that it was for personal purposes, and that's what these hush money cases come down to. hash money payments aren't necessarily illegal unless you can tie them to an intent to influence an election. so in the john edwards case, i think that there was some facts that showed that it wasn't for the purposes of just influencing the election. there was payments that were made even after he suspended his campaign . so that tends to support the idea that it was for a personal purpose and on trump's end. i think that there's some obvious evidence that shows that it seems to be for the purpose of influencing the election. but again, a lot of that's coming from michael cohen and there's some credibility and i want to follow up with you when the payments are made in a moment, but karen first this is an interesting precedent. certainly the team trump is leaning on it to try to say, right. i mean, how do you? how do you unscramble an egg? john edwards didn't meet real hunter was her
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name right until because because he better because he was a presidential candidate, right? and of course, they want to humiliate his family. but he also was running for president. like how can you pull out motive in this and if they weren't successful there, how could they be successful here? so i think this is a question that comes down to the facts and it's very factually specific. and so, for example, in the trump in the case here that alvin bragg brought you have multiple occasions in the statement of facts, for example, you have in june 20. 15 where there was a meeting at trump tower where not just michael cohen but also david pecker and the defendant now donald trump. we're all together and they agreed at that time to engage in what's a criminal conspiracy to catch and kill these things for the election. you've got several of these meetings that again don't just rely on michael cohen that also have david pecker, and there's also someone they refer to in there as the editor in chief of the national enquirer, who was in on it, too. right, so there's multiple this is their text messages. there's phone calls, and i think there will be
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facts in here that support that this was a conspiracy to influence the election. okay so now here's now let's try to unscramble the site katie because one passage in the entitlement statement of facts, says speaking about trump, he instructed lawyer a. that's cohen. that if they could delay the payment until after the election, they could avoid paying altogether because at that point, it wouldn't matter if the story it wouldn't it would not matter if the story became public. okay so two points here one those payments did continue. after what you're pointing out. they did in john edwards. so they did continue way after the election and to you know, karen's pointing out this all these facts about the meetings that did occur. we also know the catch and kill concept for trump had been in place, according to michael cohen and others for many years prior to this so again, how do they prove with the fact that karen's pointing gout. that this is different that you can prove this was for the election. well there's a saying that comes to mind in the law, which is if the law is on your side argue the law. facts are on your side argue the facts and if neither is on your side you have a
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problem, and i think that this is that type of case there is some facts that tend to support the idea that it could have been for the purpose of influencing the election. is that enough to get a beyond a reasonable doubt finding that that's the purpose of this and that's assuming that we get past all of the initial legal issues with the case, so i think just realistically speaking. is this a tough prosecution? absolutely but i would never purport to predict what any jury could do. i think that the case was brought, you know, the federal case was brought. against john edwards that was thought to be prosecutable and winnable. it was not one right here could be the opposite outcome shortly, but i think that there's difficulty on the factual side and on the legal side so karen, i want to ask you something last night that i brought this up, but since you've worked in this d r d a office, obviously so extensively, trump continues his attacks against the judge right after being warned to not do that right, and we know that there have been many death threats already against people involved in this place, including the judge. here's what trump said. i have a trump hating judge. with the trump painting, wife and family. whose
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daughter worked for kamala harris. and now receives money from the biden harris campaign and a lot of it. after being warned tie was saying he thought that you know, brags team should have had on the table this morning a very narrowly drafted gag order to try to push the judge to do it. do you think that that is deserved right now , so i think there's two separate issues. i think the gag order if a judge issues that first of all there's significant first amendment issues involving this because he's running for president of the united states, right orders are to ensure a fair trial. that's it. it's so you don't influence the jury pool. and so that the defendant can get a fair trial. what donald trump is doing is not just impacting the trial, but he's making threats and he's been making threats since he for a while, but he's been making threats to the prosecutor. the prosecutors family now the judge, the judges family at a certain point the question is
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going to become, will he be prosecuted for those threats, which is slightly different than a gag order, which is an extreme measure. the judge could also call him back in and have a hearing and say and admonish him short of a gag order, which i think is the next step here. we're going to watch the sea because obviously you know, it was the 1st 2nd. he had an opportunity to do it. he did it. all right. thank you both so very much. i appreciate it. and next, how the indictment is affecting voters in a county that voted overwhelmingly for trump. i was thinking to vote for dissenting now i am thinking to go for trump. it is a story you will see first outfront from a swing state, but trump county high ranking russian security officer, breaking his silence after managing to escape russia , and you're going to hear what he is saying about putin's state of mind. i can't believe this is how you kids talk to your friends. this is talking. did you have a nice day? look at the
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for desantis. now i am thinking to go that this is this is the effect. that is causing this stuff is one of the few counties that voted for president obama twice and then flipped in 2016 and 2020 for president trump. i was a democrat. blame no more. scott repel a from wilkes barre told us he became a republican because he thinks trump is being attacked unfairly. he was like 2016. it's now 2023. you write all that time to indict him? it's just to me it's all because me paella is concerned about the former president's intensifying rhetoric against manhattan district attorney alvin bragg. i think you should keep his mouth shut. i mean, i think he's shoot himself on his front, but i mean, he can say what he wants to say, i guess down the road in plymouth borough republican kim ellard voted for president trump twice, but with his legal issues is on the fence. now i'm not certain that i would support him. in 2024. i'm not certain even that he's you know, um, completely innocent. i'm just
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saying that i do feel as though it's politically motivated. it's all made up. it's a farce. they're trying to keep them out of office. republican craig victor says he is adamantly against the charges did yesterday's charges. change if you would support him in 2024 no. i'm not saying i'm going to vote for him either. other um, candidates on the republican side liberals and other trump opponents we spoke with were united, saying the former president is getting what he deserves excited that he's finally gonna hopefully pay for some of the things that he's done. i think i felt relief more than anything else. county and country still divided after those 34 charges. and aaron. it's really hard to overstate the importance of luzern. obviously it flipped from obama to trump in 2016. but then in 2020, that margin got smaller and then in 2022 during the pennsylvania senate race between
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dr oz and senator john fetterman , republican democrat, that margin got even smaller. so you can bet that we're going to be watching this county come 2024 fascinating conversations you have with those voters, danny. thank you. and next, we're going to take you into the trenches on the front lines in ukraine. russian soldiers are close enough to see the threat of being attacked, obviously never ends. the soldiers say there's a drone flying over in the area, which they tell us occasionally drop grenades on their trenches . plus, tonight we have exclusive access to one of america's most advanced nuclear submarines. this submarine is on high alert specifically for threats from china, and it is a story you'll see first. here, outfront. if you're turning 65 sosoon or over 65 planning to retire now is the time to learn more about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan from united healthcare and get help
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.com. call 1 803 731891 order now i'm melanie's nana in washington and this is cnn. tonight putin defector, an elite high ranking russian security officer has escaped russia and is now speaking out. he is sharing his story with a reporter woman to speak to in just a moment about everything from putin's health to his paranoia, and we're going to get to all of that shortly. it comes , though, as russia's private army is now desperately recruiting soldiers, heavy battles are raging in eastern ukraine. this is a video of the wagner chief. you have jenny precaution, personally interviewing recruits at a call center and ben wedeman is outfront tonight on the front line. lines in eastern ukraine in the trenches by the russian lines and a story you'll see
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first here, outfront. in the trenches, the deeper you dig, the better. the front lines in the open plains of eastern ukraine, or zigzag of earthworks in this area positions have been static for a while. alexei from the first tank brigade has been here for six months. sometimes it's quiet, he says. and sometimes it's loud. sometimes they russians trying to break through. so far, they haven't succeeded. you might want to get down, okay? we are told. russian lines are just one kilometer from here. we're hearing occasional shelling. but nothing coming on this position. yet. this soldier also named alexey peers through binoculars across
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no man's land, but only briefly to avoid drawing sniper fire destruction. to be honest, at first, i was scared, he says. but humans can get used to everything. they're yet to get used to one threat hovering overhead. alright and we've now taken cover because the soldiers say there's a drone flying over in the area, which they tell us occasionally drop grenades on their trenches. but not this time. to the rear sergeant oleg checks that his soviet era t 64 tanks are in good working order ruling the someone would like an old car, easy to repair or like tells me with new cars. you have to take them to the mechanic. these are like a simple tractor. but these tractors may soon be replaced by newer models. he says. some of his comrades are in poland being trained to use german made leopard tanks.
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spring is arrived in these parts and with it growing anticipation of a ukrainian offensive new, more modern weapons than these old hulks could make all the difference. back in the trenches . all is quiet, but as we leave a drone appears above us. then our ride out arrives. 30 seconds. 30 seconds, okay? then artillery time to waste. the ukrainians are understandably tight lipped about when they're going to launch their spring offensive. the defense minister recently said it could be in april or june. it all depends upon when the new weapons, particularly tanks are in place , and their crews are fully trained. and that at the moment
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is still a work in progress. erin. thanks so much. ben and outfront now elia, russia's vince key reporter for the dossier group, which is run by mikhail khodorkovsky, a russian opposition leader. and ilia. you spoke with an officer who fled russia's federal guard service and right in the middle of a foreign trip. so he's with putin and kazakhstan last october. these are pictures from that very trip. and then he is scapes . i mean, it's an incredible story. what did he tell you about how we managed to do it? so he had this business trip to kazakhstan with vladimir putin in october, and on the last deal this trip, he decided that the time that's that's that's the right time that he told his colleagues that thirsty that he had some problems with his stomach and community celebrates more in his room and hotel after that, he told them as as probably he would spend a few
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hours searching. ah searching for shops trying to buy something memorable from this trip, and well, yeah, and he got traditional hours to pick up his wife and his daughter to grab a taxi and to go to the airport. the flight was delayed, so he spend this time really nervous, and he understood that his colleagues that they are well, they were starting to understand that some nothing was going on. that he was trying to escape. probably so he switched off his phone and 15 minutes after that. uh, he boarded to the plane and well you were announced discussing his interview. he's perfectly safe and sound. yes although incredible. i know he would was aware that had they realized what he was doing. they would have could have turned that plane back. this could have ended very differently. um and
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the officer told you i know ilia that he believes that putin is paranoid and the quote that he shared with you was pathologically. afraid for his life, and i wanted to share with our viewers. some of what he told you about that. he has been living in an information cocoon for the past couple of years, spending most of his time in his residences, which the media very fittingly called bunkers. we have to observe a strict quarantine for two weeks before any event, even those lasting 15 to 20 minutes. he doesn't use the internet or a mobile phone only receives information from his closest circle. these are incredible insights that he doesn't use the internet or a mobile phone and that you know if your guard on duty with him you have to spend two weeks prior before any event, even if you're only going to be with him for 15 to 20 minutes. what more did he tell you about putin's
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state of mind? well that's vladimir putin relies on some special reports of from his secret services, and he also really loves washing russian propaganda and that that is probably that soul that's allrce also told us about that putin is really paranoid. so hearing just some cover operations. she really here makes everything look like that he is flying from one city to another. his plane is departing and everything is going like he really divorced from 11 city to another, but in fact, he stays. he stays to the place and he just enjoys his time. so he just made he just arranges this operations to make everybody think that he just left. so probably one of the most important things that he told us he is that putin isn't a great shape well, curriculum of
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served for 13 years, you know, with with federal guard service , and for 13 years he's been in more than 180 business trips, mostly with vladimir putin and because of his illness because of illness of vladimir putin. only one of or two of these business trips were canceled. hope so. so we can probably see him that within 13 years she felt seek, like, once or twice. that's really incredible, so putin probably is not going to die anytime soon. now i know that you which isn't i mean, as you say, two times in 180 trips to be sick. it is something you were on the show a couple of months ago, and you and i were talking a lot about your reporting on the armored train that putin has been using. according to your reporting to, um travel, right, basically between his daca his his his weekend home and moscow, you said it had special
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communication system sort of made to look like a russian train. but there were ways that you could tell that this was his special train. we now know that this officer that you're talking about was the source who told you all the details about this train? why does he want to speak out now and share this information with you, ilya? well she wanted to speak out and to tell everybody that he is against this war he wanted to address to his colleagues from federal guard service and to let them know that probably they should do something. they should try to stop this war he wanted to address to russian citizens and to tell them that they should have post this war that he cannot believe that they support to this aggression against ukraine. all right, delia, thank you so much as always a really appreciate your sharing all of your incredible reporting with us. thanks. thank you. and next an outfront exclusive. we're going to take you on board, one of the most powerful warships on the planet
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jeff javelin, is commander of the pacific fleet submarine force facing new powerful threats in the hotly contested indo pacific. are you concerned about what china's navy is doing, particularly in the south china sea and around taiwan? am concerned you know, in today's world, we are facing two nuclear peer adversaries where we've never had that before. the soviet union and post soviet union. russia was our peer adversary. we're now facing china, which is expanded and modernized their nuclear capabilities. the mississippi is one of 49 fast attack submarines in the us naval fleet. the fleet also has 14 larger submarines carrying nuclear armed ballistic missiles. the u. s u k and australia. newly announced august partnership will send nuclear powered submarines to perth, potentially challenging china's ambitions for the region. beijing now has the world's largest navy. but u. s
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submarines have the world's most advanced technology a key advantage in underwater warfare . mississippi is ready to dive dive die is capable of diving deep and fast descending hundreds of feet in a matter of seconds, 300 ft. at angles of up to 25 degrees, even standing up can be a challenge. traveling underwater makes the submarine almost impossible to detect. the nuclear reactor is so quiet the submarine makes less noise than a whale in the dark depths of the ocean. there's no light to navigate. 099 on the team relies on highly sensitive sonar. well the ocean environment is very unforgiving. so there are a lot of challenges that prevent a submarine from hearing another submarine or another surface ship, and you've got to be able to understand those different challenges. the uss mississippi , like all of america's nuclear submarines, can't essentially
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sustain itself under the water for weeks or even months at a time because of the nuclear reactor that powers them. they breathe recirculated air and purified water, the only thing that they need to actually get resupply with is food for the crew members, and that means that they get used to spending a very long time not only without sunshine and blue skies but also without regular communication or conversations with their families. the food on submarines is surprisingly good, but spending months underwater can be tough. no mobile phones allowed outside communication only possible on emails. sailors have to look after each other. most surprised you about life and working on a submarine. honestly, what surprised me the most was like the people. um how close you get with each other. these kind of shared hardships together. you end up with a really strong bond crew relies on that bond hearing out complicated, dangerous tasks
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inside the torpedo room. river technicians practice loading high precision weapons capable of taking out other submarines and ships. in the morning understanding warning at the back of the sub jack o'brien works with a team of technical engineers. do you ever get bored on a sub? no, absolutely. not. every day. i come in thinking i know what i'm thinking. i know exactly what's going to happen what i gotta do. admiral. javelin says deterrence is the key objective, even winning a war against an increasingly powerful china would likely result in devastating losses for both sides confident that should we be called upon two. fight, and hopefully that will never happen that we would win. submarines like the uss mississippi are constantly preparing for war ready at a moment's notice for whatever the future holds. and the footage there will was incredible. and
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when you think about it, you've got that nuclear submarine watching for threats from china , but china we now know is home to the biggest navy in the world. so from your reporting having these conversations what would the reality of a conflict with china actually look like? china does have a big navy, but they don't have the number of nuclear submarines, nuclear powered submarines that the united states has both ballistic missile. and also these attack subs that can essentially travel around completely undetected. it is virtually impossible to know where they are, and they can track other countries. summaries that are louder because a lot of them are diesel and just don't have the same level of sophisticated technology. so then the weapons that they use they can take out subs. they can take out ships. they can take out, you know targets on the ground, so a lot of war game simulation say that that china kalou's up to 70 or 80% of its naval fleet if they tried to make an to invade taiwan, however, it would result in thousands of casualties on both sides. the u. s would also lose significant assets, including
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aircraft carriers. basically erin there would be no winners in a war over taiwan. that's the message that the u. s. is trying to send. yeah, awful. all right. thank you very much. will ripley and coming up on a c. 3 60 tonight, the journalist and author whose reporting is at the heart of the charges against trump. ronan farrow will join anderson at eight o'clock and next top tech executive stabbed to death just blocks from google's offices in san francisco. so what happened details on the investigation next? i struggled with cpap every ninight. but now that i gt the inspire implantt to treat my sleep at yeah, i'm sleeping much better. in fact, it's making me think of doing other things i've been putting off like removing the tattoo of your first wife's name. your mom's name is vicki, too. that's even worse. inspire sleep apnea. innovation learn more importa safety information at inspe sleep dot
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office, the victim 43 year old bobbly tech executive himself the founder of cash app and the first chief technology officer of square. we was stabbed tuesday, friends and police say, walking in a downtown neighborhood around two a.m. tomorrow night. that's a little strange, um it just happened to my mind still processing it. you know, when you lose someone you're like, this is a not expected. i know you had 22 daughters as well that you love. lee's father honored his son on facebook writing. bob would give you the shirt off his back. bob lee had recently moved to miami with his father, who wrote so happy that we were able to become so close these last years. lee was known in the industry as crazy bob for his tenacious energy, his latest employer, the crypto firm mobile coin tweeted, this photo calling lee child of dreams and whatever he imagined, no matter how crazy he made real. this is not a city where anybody should fear for their lives at 2 30 in the
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morning. the killing has renewed anger in san francisco over perceptions that the city isn't safe. on twitter. elon musk claimed many people i know have been severely assaulted, then pushed the district attorney to do more to incarcerate repeat violent offenders. for too long . the leaders of san francisco have ignored the basics. cardio worked on the successful recall campaign of the previous progressive d a last year, then won a city supervisor seat, defeating the incumbent by running on a public safety agenda. residents are feeling like the city is not working for them, and they just want clean streets, safe streets and good schools and they don't understand why the city. falling in san francisco compared to previous decades. this is the 12th homicide this year, according to police data. baltimore with fewer people reports nearly 70. but property crime is high in san francisco. in 2020, there were more than
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4000 incidents per 100,000 people. that's nearly three times the rate of new york city. friends of bobbly say all that matters now is the one crime that has them in morning i talked about his kids a lot family, just generally good guy. and some are speculating that this was a random attack with the san francisco police department has not released any information around the circumstances around his stabbing death. they have also not released. any information about a suspect. aaron. alright veronica. thank you very much for all that new reporting. and thanks so much to all of you for joining us a. c 3 60 begins now. more than 24 hours after the former president was arraigned tonight. new trouble for him former vice president mike pence, no longer fighting in court now willing to testify before a grand jury in the department of justice's investigation to january 6th about direct conver