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evening, everyone. i'm alison camerata. welcome to cnn tonight , lots of developments today, and many legal challenges facing donald trump, including former vice president mike pence, saying he will not fight the order to tell a grand jury about his conversations with president trump regarding january 6th. but there are many more cases, including one you may not be up to date on. begins in just two weeks. plus the grammy winning country musician who says country music can lead america out of its cycle of gun violence catch c corps of the old crow medicine show is here tonight to explain how also pulse of the people. i sit down with six voters from different generations about the challenges that they face in today's job market and economy and who they blend. well i think the tax cuts that happened under the reagan administration set us up. and so baby boomers had all this unprecedented prosperity that

they thrived under, which is great for them. but then i feel that they've handed millennials the bill, so to speak. okay. but let's begin with all the developments in donald trump's legal woes here with me tonight we have political commentator ashley alison republican strategist evan siegfried, cnn senior political analyst, john avlon and a man who knows a thing or two about presidents with legal problems. watergate prosecutor nick akerman. great to have all of you here tonight . okay, john, i'll start with you to welcome you back from. i feel an extended vacation. okay uh former vice president mike pence will not appeal the order for him to testify in front of this federal a grand jury regarding january 6th. how do we explain that turnabout? look i think the judicial order makes a little simpler for him to proceed in that direction. but look, i think he also had some legitimate questions. uh or concerns about structurally whether he could be compelled to talk about decisions in his capacity as president of the senate. um mike pence has done

the right thing on january 6th. let's not forget that. let's give him the benefit of the doubt. yes, it appears that he's running for president who is walking a line, but he needs to embrace the role he played on january 6th. that's how history will remember him and just tell the truth. and be consistent about that, and i think we have every reason to expect he'll do that. and they didn't give him that carve out that he was looking for, basically, yeah, but it's not much of a carve out. i mean, it simply means that if jim jordans came up to him on the senate floor at the time, and said, let's get those fake electors in. you can't testify to that. but he can testify to every conversation you had with donald trump. and the vice president was a key is a key witness in this entire matter relating to january 6th whether it's the fake electors, whether it's trying to get the various legislatures to change the vote or whether it was the pressure that was being put on state officials. all of this was geared towards finally getting up to january. 6th and getting

mike pence to basically either push it back to the states delay the electoral college. vote and somehow helped donald trump. hang on. he knows everything and he's gonna testify. truthfully i'm totally convinced, too, that he is going to do the right thing, and he makes the case against donald trump. i assume that means pence's cooked politically if he helps. pence was already cooked politically because the gop base wanted mike pence to go along with donald trump's plan to overturn the 2016 election or 2020 election and mike pence. he's trying to portray himself as yes, i'm still loyal to donald trump kind of reluctantly going towards testifying and i did fight it, but now pretty much have run out of all options, except one or two just to delay it, and i don't think the gop base cares. he's done. he has to recognize that at this point, he's doing legacy. and i understand that he wants to be president. lot of

people do want to be present. but most people don't make it that far, and he really needs to look at what is best for me politically in the future, and he's not even doing that he's taking. he hasn't even carved out a lane where he differentiates himself from trump. nobody in the republican primary field has actually your thoughts. i've been calling this all day. a fake fight, you know , like i'm standing up for talking a lot of street trash a little bit, but not really what ready to throw some blows, and i think that's what mike pence is doing. he's trying to appeal to the base, saying, i don't really want to say anything bad about trump. but now that i have to say something bad, i guess i will because i'm a loyal american. that's like the perfect argument for him right now and depending on what happened because of the indictment in the upcoming cases around donald trump. i'm not saying mike pence is going to be the next president. but if we clear donald trump out of the republican field, i think the field is open. i'm not saying he's going to. i'm never going to vote for mike pence, and i'm not going to encourage anyone else has a lane. i'm not sure.

well what line does anybody have? at this point? i think ron desantis is still trying to figure out his lane. nikki haley, mike pompeo. none of them really have established their lane because the person who is running the entire republican party is donald trump. so when you know people thought in 2008 obama didn't have a lane and then look what happened. he was our president, so it's in american politics, like history is really important. but we're playing in a whole new political landscape, and i just don't think anyone can say for sure. they know where people will fall . he should have a lame if anyone has a claim to offer to representing trumpism without donald trump, it's mike pence. um plus being a genuine evangelical who stood up for the constitution to the fact that he is so demonized by such a large segment of the trump base. i would say, i think speaks badly to the situation. republicans find themselves in now, okay? can we talk about one of the most intriguing things to come out of this indictment yesterday ? the story of the doorman trump tower doorman. ah doorman who

apparently was paid $30,000 to keep his mouth shut about, he says, um, a child that donald trump fathered with his former housekeeper. that's kind of i don't know. juicy um, but that really the word we want to. you don't know what word to use. think it's a grover cleveland moment. i mean, we go on you remember the election of 18 84 when grover cleveland and ran for president. and then he actually was like what donald trump is trying to do. he's trying to become president after another term when he lost, but the key piece here is that grover cleveland had fathered out of wedlock. a child and the republicans who ran against him had a little slogan. um ma ma, where's my pa? he's gone to the white house, huh? ha ha! yes

great. donald trump is basically going all out. grover cleveland here. there is actually a great new biography of grover cleveland. you're sadly i'm reading but enjoyably called man of iron that i recommended deeper. of course you are. john here's what the doorman here's, the doorman told cnn today. he says i was a complete shock when i was informed by my attorney that i was cited in the statement of facts related to former president trump's indictment, as i was not given any for warning that i would be included. i was never asked to appear before the grand jury. noah's nor was i ever interviewed by the district attorney's office. cnn has not been able to verify the story, of course of the former housekeeper. but actually doesn't this just show once again? why women should be president. we can keep track. we know how many children we've had . generally we can keep track of our children. that's basically what i think. that was hard pivot alison? yep yeah, i agree . yeah you're totally right. women should run the world and we wouldn't be in half the problems that we're in, um regards to the doorman. i think this is really surprising. and

yet, maybe not, you know, yesterday there was a lot of speculation that this isn't a super strong case. a lot of times. witnesses always are informed. this is not the trial. this is just the indictment, and so sometimes witnesses are informed later when they will be coming out. i think that you know, people have been saying what additional evidence does the d a have? we don't know. there probably is more. i would assume that to bring this case against the former president and maybe this dormant. i think people were surprised. surprised that the dormant and, uh uh, the other woman, karen macdougal were was included in this indictment. and i think that this is the beginning of the unraveling of this case that will be presented in this new york courtroom and starting in december, so we just have to see but i agree. women should be president. lets on that note. thank you very much friends. i'm glad we all agree on that meeting while meanwhile coming up, he's a grammy winning country musician and apparent in nashville, and he thinks it's high time. for country music for

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ever growing list of families, friends. survivors. witnesses. and responders. whose lives continue to forever be changed. by gun violence. i pray deeply. the closeness and the community that we feel through the next few hours of music can soon turn into action like real action. that moves us forward together. to create change. for the safety of our kids. and our loved ones . it's not just kelsea ballerini . other country music stars are speaking out to about gun violence, including catch, seek or a grammy award winning musician and founding member of old crow medicine show and he joins me now catch. it's so great to have you here, particularly on this topic. we don't go a week on this program without trying to find some

solution. to gun violence, particularly mass shootings and school shootings. and so to have your voice is so important. so why now catch let me just give you a statistic this this year just in 2023. there have been according to the washington post database already 140 mass shooting 17 school shootings. so why is this time different? well it's because it happened in my town of nashville, tennessee, and in nashville. we have the strength and resilience to show the nation how to respond to gun violence in our schools. we are a blue dot in the red sea, and we have the kind of conservative values that you hear about all across the country. that can be one of these reasons. why uh, you know nothing changes. why the needle never seems to move. and yet the parents and students and activists and folks like me and the country music business are ready to stand up and say the last nail in the coffin is

nashville. you wrote this off ed in the new york times. and it says here with the south needs now is an anti assault weapons movement driven by voices from the center by interdenominational faith leaders by students. nashville is called the athens of the south because it is teeming with scholars at its many colleges and by country singers who are tired of bending to the whims of fear mongers and who are ready to speak from their platforms to an impressionable audience. so who are those fearmongers? well um god, it's like all of the forces that be from, you know, i honestly i see a lot of them in the media, but we as country musicians have a responsibility to speak to our audiences with truth and the truth is, is that no child should ever be in this situation. you know, after the after the applause is over, and the final curtain call a lot of

us go home to our families, and it's 7 30 in the morning. we're getting kids ready to go out the door for school. school violence is something that we need to eradicate from the core. and i don't know what the solutions are. i'm not an elected official . i'm a fiddle player, but i do know that enough is enough. i think that the country music world will be a formidable force for change. i mean, i think that you're really onto something. but are you afraid that when you write things like this up ed for the new york times when you come on here that you know, part of your fan base will turn on you. can you imagine if we harnessed this energy across the united states? i mean, when, when you go to a country show and you look out into the crowd, you see the kind of people who are reluctant to do something about gun violence in america. but what if you were to be hey, brother, sister. i love you and

i hear you and i know your pain and i'm not asking you to throw away your whole arsenal. i'm not going to come prime out of your cold dead hands. i'm just asking for one thing. do you feel safe? dropping your kids off at school? because in nashville, we don't not anymore. we all remember that god awful shooting in vegas, um at the country music festival, 60. i think people were mowed down and there was a feeling after that, um, you know, jason aldean was on stage that that maybe the country music world could i would galvanized country music fans in the country music world would speak out. why do you think that? well let me ask you this. do you sense that there is more energy now? i just heard garth brooks speaking out today as well. do you think that nashville and because of what's happened in nashville, the covenant school that there actually is more momentum today? i really believe that there's

never been a better time now to move the needle. and to eradicate school violence. and you know what happened in las vegas a few years ago, which was such a shocking tragedy that you know, i know players who were on that stage that night and that they will never heal from the trauma that they experienced. witnessing that the killing of our audience in front of us but the reason why it's different now it's because it's our kids. that's really that's going to be the thing that does it. you know, we love our crowds. we love them. they put the food on our tables. but who do we love most of all our children and the events of one week and a day ago and our hometown have proven that it's not outside the door anymore. it's right here. it's right here in our hometown, and it's time. catch seek or thank you so much for your time. we really appreciate your message.

thanks. my panel is back with me now. also joining? we have historian timothy naftali. um i think i wasn't. i wasn't blowing smoke. i think that harnessing the country music world will be huge to help fight gun violence. it dovetails on something that you talk about a lot, which is the need to go beyond our our sort of warring camps and beyond the base and winning people over and i think you know his up ed in the new york times is excellent. and it's not just because he's saying, you know, a lot of country musicians are centrists, which, of course i love to hear is that how do you build bridges? how do you take a non maximal position on this and appeal to people's hearts and heads and say, let's at least agree on school violence? let's at least find a way to de polarize this issue when our kids are being killed, and that's why it was such a powerful voice from the republican point of view. does it stand a chance? i just from a realist point of view at this point, the way the country is divided, it doesn't end its

current shape and form. i think when you have efforts from country musicians and others that are voices that aren't like you or me, that makes more of a difference. i'm a gun owner here in new york city. i went through the process, and i even felt that even though it was thorough, it wasn't thorough enough. i think there are reasonable compromises that even republicans can get on board with if we stop portraying this as an either or black or white situation, it's not okay if we give up one little bit we're going to lose all our guns and our freedom is going to be taken away. it's about well, maybe we don't need to have high capacity magazines. i own a pistol. and my pistol. it's a 10 round magazine instead of a 20. that's much better, in my view, but at the same time, it's not enough. we do need to have common sense gun reform and gun safety measures. you know, i've built my career around building coalitions and coalitions is working on finding a common ground. sometimes it's republican and democrats. sometimes it's with a younger generation and older generation , but i tend to agree with you right now. we are in such a deadlock. we just had what

little less than a year ago, a the first piece of gun reform passed but it wasn't able to go far enough to ban assault rifles because we're stuck in this gridlock. but what i do think what catch was saying is that i don't think the country music industry will be able to do it alone. but they should know they aren't fighting this fight and starting from square one today, there have been parents and activists from urban areas and rural areas who have been impacted. i was in high school when columbine happened, which was one of the first school shootings and now three decades later, sandy hook parkland and that you've aldi the you know, so many kids have been killed at the hands of guns, but i want catch to know that he's not doing this alone. the country music industry doesn't have to do this alone. and if we build a robust coalition and let these lawmakers know that they are out of touch with what the majority of americans want, we all want to live in safe communities. we all want to be able to go to the movies to the bar. to our churches to drop kids off at

school teachers and students and people who aren't even involved in the school system. we want to live in a safe country, so we have to do something. tim, what are your thoughts on how intractable and issue this is? and is this history? give us any path here? i think that when it became nationalized. it got harder. um i think one of the great the one of the errors of the george w. bush period was letting the assault weapons ban. uh expire because that was an unusual national compromise. joe biden doesn't talk much about that compromise anymore because it had another side to it. but it was a compromise. speaking of coalitions. i think that listening to catch is very heartening because i think the answer is not a national one. i think the only way to convey change is to get local community influencers to talk it up, not

elected officials. look what's happening in tennessee, for goodness sakes right now they want to throw out as i understand it. three members of the legislature because they were standing up for kids who were unhappy about the fact that schools weren't safe, so i think elected officials are not the people to do this. sorry. i just wanted to add something. key to crime reform in the nineties. police unions mhm. i don't understand, except from the side of identity and culture. why police unions who are the front line of defense who have to be standing in front of the a r fifteens, why they are not holding hands with families and saying enough is enough because they're the ones who could get killed two absolutely and are there on the front lines. it's a great point. yes and one thing that i also think needs to be done because there are people in the center and center, right who are persuadable on this issue, but when others when people talk

about it, it's just assault weapons. it's not just that if you look at fbi statistics, over two thirds of gun homicides are with handguns and of the and only about 10% or just under or with rifles and a fraction of that, or with assault rifles that fall under the definition of an assault, right and we have to expand it and talk about all guns, including him. i appreciate that. some of the reason that i sometimes break it down this way is because if we can't tackle it all at once. stop school shootings. and so those are the you know. generally the school shooters favor the air 15. so i hear you . it's very hard to it's almost . um it just feels too herculean at times to do the whole thing. but you're so right about the conversation. thank you all very much for all of those ideas. are we have to talk about the violent weather ahead tornadoes, killing five people today 50 million people are under severe storm threats. tonight we're going to speak to a storm chaser who has been in the middle of all of it next. there's a new breed of hornet sweeping the

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missouri early this morning, killing at least five people, injuring five more there. and tonight that same storm system puts more than 50 million people from texas to new york under a severe weather threat. joining me now is that storm chaser aaron j. jack hey, erin. great to see you. so you're in in indiana right now. tell us what you're seeing. yeah i mean laporte, indiana, which is in northwest indiana. and we just had this monster storm system. i just came through. he saw the video i was chasing in iowa. when i first initiated yesterday's storms fired up and i chased the storm yesterday chase that tornado and then immediately just kept traveling east here to indiana to chase another day of severe weather here in the midwest and had a squall line of severe storms, even a tornado warning. we chased down in bluffton, indiana today, and the storm system is now moved off to the east, and it's actually has been a beautiful cool. very cool evening here in northern indiana in one of the videos right now that you shared with us, we're looking at you see the funnel cloud, you know, touching down

on the ground and you're driving towards it, which is what storm chasers do. but dont tornadoes can't they sort of bounce haphazardly around? i mean, as you're driving towards it there . how did you know what direction it would be going? oh, absolutely. so you know, generally a trader is going to travel in a pretty linear a straight line in the direction it's traveling, but they do change directions. you know, as the storm, the tornado starts a rope out, it will start to turn to the north back into the core of the storm. but also this particular tornado if you watch closely you in my video, i'm coming up fast on the tornado, and as i got close to it, actually, i slowed down a little bit like a judge. it's what it's doing. the vortex on the ground was actually at one moment started backtracking towards me. maybe 10 yards and when i was only about 20 yards from the tornado at that point, and it quickly slingshot it off to the northeast away from me so very fast moving tornado so that also made it a little you have to be much more careful trying to gauge with this tornado is going to do i would imagine. let me i hope we'll show that video because that was the one that you were driving towards you're

saying and we can see it. you're saying sleep? it's not this shot. it's the one where we see that this one. so you're driving towards it. and you say that you can see it, um as you say, slingshot in a different direction. yellow in the video. it's going to be hard for you to see it in the video, but up close in person. when i was right there. i could see the vortex sergeant, you know, backtrack towards me a little bit before then shot off to the off the wage of the northeast and one of the things i'm trying to do out there is i've got a 3 60 camera that i mount on top of my vehicle trying to capture obviously, i'm trying to provide warnings for the public out there. but i'm also trying to capture up close, you know, amazing video parade or something that most people won't ever experienced in her life and try to get them in that seat as a storm chaser. erin is this season worse? it feels like it to us where we sit. is this a worse tornado season than usual? i mean, it is starting off. you know we are. we will continue on the pace that we're at. we would probably see an above average tornado year every every year is different. it all depends on how the patterns in the atmosphere

set up, but this one of particularly is starting off with a bang. i mean, it's been we're not even, uh through that. you know, we're not into the peak season and i believe the death toll from tornadoes has already exceeded what we had last year, so it is been a busy start to the to the year. that doesn't mean it will continue through the season. but you know it could. it definitely could. could it all depends. every year is very you know, the atmosphere is a very dynamic thing. but you know, with a warming environment that's one of the and the jews. you know the juice that's needed for the superstars before. um it seems like we are starting to see these these big monster storms more often. well that's what i'm going to ask you. i mean, so many people wonder about the effects of climate change, of course. and you're right there on the ground. so do you see climate change, making these more violent, more frequent? you know, i wouldn't necessarily more violent, but i would say more frequent. you know, bro, i think in the last five even in not just supercells, but hurricanes, for example, i think in the last five years or so, i chased, uh three or four major hurricanes,

you know, and in the past, there have been times where you could go many years without having a major hurricane. so it does feel like you know, this is anecdotal evidence. i'm not out there taking measurements and going through data but as a gut instinct, and this is one of the things that the storm chaser they only get close to a tornado. i like this requires a lot of knowledge of the atmosphere of storms and gut instinct. my gut instinct says that we are seeing these stronger storms more often. well, erin j. jack be careful. we appreciate the video. we appreciate your story. but be careful when you're doing this. yeah, i will. thank you. awesome. thanks so much for being here. okay now to this millennials are stressed about their economic situation and their future and they tell us who they blame for that the pulse of the people is next.

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this is how we do this and you're doing it. look. that's right. all of you guys, all right, today's economic challenges are hitting some generations harder than others. the cost of homeownership, student loans and childcare are particularly tough for millennials. that group of americans born between 1981 and 1996, so we wanted to talk to a cross section of generations. gen x millennials and gen. z about their biggest fears for the future. we start with millennials. here's our pulse of the people. i think millennials are stressed. we are triaging multiple financial systemic factors, and i do think it has to be viewed in the context of the policy that created that and the fact that we were raised by boomers under their regime, and then we came up under them in the workplace. so we've been subject to their philosophy and their advice. um maybe not to our benefit for a really long

time. how do you think baby boomers stacked the deck against you? well i think the tax cuts that happened under the reagan administration set us up. and so baby boomers had all this unprecedented prosperity that they thrived under, which is great for them, but then i feel that they've handed millennials the bill, so to speak. that's reality. i mean, the bush tax cuts of 2001. we can go back. during you know, even during the clinton years rating years, there was decisions made that wanted to benefit. he's you know a certain generation and not invest into the future. and do you think the same of gen xers? i feel a little more generous towards my gen xers. i've always felt a bit more like there are older siblings who they got it. they saw baby boomers coming and said, these people are jerks. they're only out for themselves. it would be really helpful for

everyone to kind of take the time out and understand that we have had a. hmm all of us start to our life right? two recessions, a pandemic college degrees. that you know, aren't necessarily it's worth as much and you know, and big china figure out a way to make a life out of all this things that really do worry me, though, are the staggering prices of houses , and there doesn't seem to be an end in sight for that. owning a home feels so daunting for people of my generation and climate change. well, i think about it every day, and that feels like one that we may not be able to get ahead of time that the generation that was given one game plan where i go to college. do this. do that. you'll be fine. it didn't work out after two recessions in the pandemic, so now we're having to figure out different ways. to build a universal wealth that

especially in in in my specific situation for my family, you know my family grew up in poverty. we're in a very interesting spot where my generation and the one before me , did it or created this world with all these wonderful things and applications, but now how are we going to fix the unintended consequences? i'm very sympathetic. i mean, i think that one of the one of the advantages i've always seen of being a gen xers that we're sort of in between generation that we kind of flew under the radar in a way that millennials were unable to, and gen. z was unable to. i attended law school, a very expensive private law school, which i took out loans for and so i spent over 10 years i was a prosecutor for a while in new york city, and then i worked with domestic violence survivors also in new york city and had a very difficult but rewarding career at least rewarding. um you know,

spiritually and emotionally, and it did not help me to accumulate wealth that entire time, i was just paycheck to paycheck and hoping to eventually get loan forgiveness. i actually burnt out in my career. and quit practicing law in 2022 part of what contributed to my burnout and a very significant way was the shame that i felt around my debt and how it made me unable to thrive financially. these are challenges like i said that people are not being sensitive to and tone deaf, too. i hope to get might launch paid off and you know, i say, 18 months from now, i got $25,000 left, so i'm just trying to get that paid fast. but for everybody else, i just hope they just forgive the 10,000 m just help everybody out. i'm very happy as i sit here today to report that i've gotten loan forgiveness. i'm so grateful for that. when i got the letter, i truly had to read it three times to make sense of

it, and then i fell to the floor and like wept. because i never thought that would happen. let's think about, for example, family planning thinking about how lots of families struggle during the pandemic because they had to decide whether to go to work or to take care of the kids. you know, we got married in 2019. the pandemic hits six months later, and we had to make a decision to stop pursuing, you know, trying to have kids because we didn't want to have that stress. of not knowing what the house effects could be for ourselves, much less to a potential child. and then afterwards, right? we still don't have student loan relief. we still don't have a recovering economy. i'm currently working part time as a tutor. and do you blame danny? do you blame gen x or do you blame baby boomers for kind of the situation that you find yourself in. i don't want to represent my generation as the disgruntled generation, but i mean there was policy

decisions made in the seventies eighties and nineties that have contributed to our position now. so what does my panel think about all of that baby boomer tim naftali has a lot of explaining to do. that's next. this is all on you, tim. okay, good. zero commission trades for online us starts and e t f and a commitment to get the best price on every tree, which saved investors over $1.5 billion last year. that's decision tech only from fidelity on the left your mouthwash with the burning sensation and on the right closest, the alcohol free, gentle mouthwash that works without the burn closest mouthwashes, fresh and breath, improve gum health and strengthen teeth closest works without the burn. with every generation subaru forester has been a leader in crash safety.

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of baby boomer. i'm a casper on the cost. and so their argument and i thought it was really an interesting perspective they've had as they were trying to launch their lives in terms of becoming, you know, independent people. they've had pandemic. they've had recession. they've had this, you know, interested in what they had? i don't know. crazy job market and all sorts of jobs going away and social media coming to the fore. so what are your thoughts? my thoughts are that the definition of the american dream has changed. in reality, but but but not in people's minds. and so expectations are the way they used to be in a world that has changed, and there are a lot of reasons why that has happened, um, the me generation and i consider myself part of the it's them generation the me generation. um uh, had its moment absorbed a lot of resources. um is that the baby

boomers generation? what happened? i mean, i think one of the problems is that the silent generation in the in the before the world war two general the greatest generations before the silent generation. there was an effort to invest in this country . hmm there was a sense of community now. not a perfect era. certainly for many americans, particularly people of color living in the south. but there was a sense of community and there was a sense that that resources could be could coalesce for community and that the federal government could play a role and what happened in reaction to the expectations of the great society. in the sixties, people were disappointed. and there was vietnam. and so what you had was a sense in this country that you can't trust government at all. and that's when this generation begins to remove resources from

the community chest and we begin to under fund schools and roads. and. what we then leave the bill on individuals in a way that was never true before school is too expensive. universities are too expensive in particular college debt is where you see that and i think really feeling absolutely . that's that's sort of the insult to the injury on top of, you know the pandemic and the great recession, which they were not even fully climbed out of. when the pandemic hit. i mean, look, it's not blaming the boomers, but it is a profound point that government there was more of an ethos of investing in the common good and that had effect of lifting all boats. there also was an implicit expectation every american generation would do better than the last as our economy is growing, and we hit, we hit a limit to that so far. um and also you need to say that the percentage of americans that were middle class starts shrinking in the 19 eighties.

and the percentage of the super wealthy start growing, and it's that gap that causes a lot of the people's anxiety. millennial written a book on this topic first as the token millennial. i do want to, you know, there's 2 11. i think we should give you a pardon tim for your role as a quasi baby boomer. thank you. thanks but i think you have to look at what better now look at what has happened to millennials. the oldest millennials are my age roughly, i'm 40 and they roughly 41 42. they've laid having families they've delayed getting married the delayed buying homes because they can't afford it. millennials would be living at home with their parents longer than prior generations, and also the average millennial has $30,000 worth of debt, which is one of the highest we've ever seen in any generation, and we've experienced the great recession that was like a punch in the gut when i was first coming out of college and really trying to get my career started, i couldn't move anywhere and people really got stuck and they blink and it's shaped how we view finances. believe it or not, you bs did a study of about

eight years ago that found millennials are the most fiscally conservative generation since the great depression, not because they're conservative and conservative values, but because they understand how hard it is to go paycheck to paycheck. they're not going out and buying luxury goods has many other politicians of older generations , including gen. x marked millennials. they just have to do that, and they have not been listened to by leaders and there are concerns have never been addressed. yeah i think that everything that the panel has said is correct, but i think there are a couple other components to it. we it felt like you know, as a millennial. we were all playing on the playground. and then the rules change and everyone started playing video games and nobody told us to stop playing on the playground anymore. and so we were told to just keep living that american dream go to college and our parents were telling us that because that was what they were told, is the best path to the middle class and to the upper middle class. but there was a whole another generation coming behind us already playing on video games,

and so we just got left out and the rules changed on us and a lot of times, millennials say we are. people say millennials were whiners complainers where resilient. we're the generation that elected the first black president of the united states of america. we have seen the worst terrorist attack on our country, and yet we still continue to go to school. continue to say i'm not giving up on this country. we're just saying, like, can you meet us halfway? it's not that, you know, to your point. i'm unmarried. i don't have children. i don't own a home. i am the case. study for millennials. the question, though i think you know as a political person and someone who works on campaigns and really thrives on talking to people on the ground is who is talking to me? are democrats developing policies for me are republicans and quite honestly? no and so we have this growing population of people, and i talked to my friends and i do these focus groups and we're like, what is the public policy that will help us improve our lives for our

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