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michael smerconish in philadelphia. it's hard not to jump to conclusions about the tennessee state house. the r word it needs to be reserved for clear and convincing cases of prejudice, discrimination or antagonism. against the person or people based on their membership in a racial or ethnic group. after all, there is an appropriate permanence to labeling conduct as racist. but from the outside looking in, this sure does seem to be such a case. three tennessee state legislators who engaged in roughly the same behavior were meted out disparate treatment. just days after 39 year olds and three adults were murdered in a mass shooting at the covenant school in nashville. these legislators led what was described as a disorderly gun reform chant that interrupted house proceedings. there seems to be no debate as to whether they broke the rules. justin jones of nashville, justin pearson of memphis and gloria johnson of knoxville the only difference between the behavior of the three is that jones and pearson used a bullhorn and

johnson did not. the men, freshmen legislators and black johnson, a white woman in her third term, the super majority of 75 republicans in the tennessee legislature initiated expulsion for all three on the grounds that they had broken the rules of decorum. those votes came on thursday, 10 days after the shooter emptied 152 rounds into the covenant school. 66 votes were required to expel the first vote. it pertained to representative jones, and the vote was 72 25 for expulsion. the second vote pertained to johnson, only 65 voted to expel her one vote shy then representative pearson. the vote was 69 26 for expulsion, three less than for jones, but three more than the 66 required so the two black men were expelled, not the white woman. you have to believe that the republicans first counted noses that within their caucus, they knew who

would vote which way they'd anticipated. i imagine that they fall short and expelling the white woman while expelling the black men. the resulting racist perception was therefore entirely predictable. but they did it anyway. also foreseeable was that the votes would turn jones and pearson into martyrs, national names, fundraising magnets and near certainties to be returned to office in a future election. indeed speaking with cnn's jake tapper on friday , gop representative brian ritchie, who only voted to expel jones said he did so. because jones wanted to be expelled. representative jones's office is right next door to mine. i had multiple conversations with him this week. let me know that i wasn't in favor and essentially , he told me that he wanted to be kicked out because his following was growing. he's getting all this national exposure and that the metro city council had already said that they were going to reappointing.

um back to the general assembly , so i was honoring his wishes and voting for him. i respect all three of them and their constituents that voted for them . i felt that they should stay. um, i honored representative jones, but it had nothing to do with race. and as for the other republicans who voted to expel their action will probably be welcomed by red district constituents who will see the votes as a necessary reprimand of bad behavior. as representative richie told jake that of two energetic youthful males who were animated and upholding of the rule of law, notwithstanding that they probably felt otherwise about the breach on the capital on january 6th. all involved pleased their respective constituencies, but energy that should have been directed towards resolving gun violence. maybe ensuring the tennessee pass is a red flag law. well now have been diverted into theatrics used for political self interest. it was all great theater. but nothing changes. i want to know what you think. go

to my website. it's work on it dot com answer this week's poll question who was more undemocratic in tennessee? lawmakers with a bullhorn. or those who voted to expel them here to discuss is jeff greenfield, the five time emmy winning network television analyst who's been at cnn, cbs abc news. he's also an author. he just published this piece for politico. the tennessee expulsion is a glimpse of the future, jeff, welcome back. you say the key to understand here is the power of a supermajority. please explain. we're seeing across the country, the state legislature, which there is a partisan supermajority. and what that has meant is that this one branch of the government with the super majority has been able to undercut the power of other branches of government. and wisconsin. in 2018, the voters elected a democratic governor and attorney general, the

outgoing lame duck republican governor and the legislature vastly decreased the power of the governor and attorney general. we've seen this kind of behavior happening and places like north carolina. when you have a governor of one party and a super legislative majority of another. it means that the normal checks and balances can be overridden. what we're seeing now, some talk of like, i can't believe it. that the newly elected justice in wisconsin, the liberal maybe threatened with impeachment by the republican state senate now has a supermajority if she votes in a way that they feels the wrong gerrymandering on abortion. so more than what happened in tennessee, which is interesting enough. this this, um, political event. growth of partisan super majorities. i think one of the most significant events of the last decade or so. there's a

there's a tendency that i see among those within the acela corridor. i'm certainly one of them to take a look at what just transpired in tennessee and say , well, surely there will be retribution for those republican lawmakers who voted to expel the two black members. not recognizing. i think that they'll probably be well received. those legislators who did cast those ballots when they go back to red districts. that's that's the key to this phenomenon. um, even if statewide. tennessee voters said this this was excessive. this this had real racial animus. these individual legislators are elected from districts that are so red or another cases so blue that they're only threat is on the primary. and so there is no political way to, um, for voters to say we didn't like what you did because of the voters that you're talking about in those districts where these legislators wrong. are probably

all for this. um and you know, in wisconsin. i keep coming back to that because it would meet all the headlines last week. you know, the voters statewide may choose democrats but district by district import. thanks to jerry mandarin, there's no way for democrats to get control of the state assembly, even if statewide, a majority of voters want that to happen, it's just not not the way the situation is laid out. jeff what are the national implications of this? i ask because vice president kamala harris has already made a visit to tennessee, it seems, and the white house has already spoken about what just transpired. it doesn't seem like there's a national republican response at least not yet. yeah. i don't think they're gonna very hard to imagine that mitch mcconnell said he wants to weigh in on this. but what i think you're seeing will make an analogy here. one of the things we learned from the 2022 midterms and from this vote in wisconsin. is that the abortion

issue did have and continues to have a motivating sector among voters. i think the fact that the president spoke to the ousted legislators and that kamala harris was down in tennessee. um means two things. they want to have the conversation about gun violence because after all this all started with this yet another horrific series of shootings and if they can say to their their black constituents all over the country. look what republicans have done. they have the denied. a voice to legislators who represent predominantly black districts. i think for democrats , they want to see this as a motivating factor as we move into the political season. jeff nice to have you back. wish you good things, right? thanks for having me. what are your thoughts hit me up on social media. i'll read some responses throughout the course of the program. what do we have? this comes from the world of twitter. i normally love your poll questions, but this one is just too obvious. of course, the

tennessee legislature was wrong . no issue to debate. you know, i have to confess. i'm kind of cribbing from the wall street journal today because i had three other proposed poll questions and when i saw the headline on the journal editorial on this who's undemocratic. in tennessee. the lawmakers with the bullhorn or those who voted to expel them. i said to myself because i was inclined to agree with you. maybe there is a legitimate debate here, and maybe a significant portion of the audience is going to say, you know, shame on what the youthful energetic men is that what that legislator told jake tapper, so go vote. that's don't be a buzzkill go vote at smerconish .com. this is the whole question of the week. you ready? put it up on the screen. right? who was more on democratic in tennessee lawmakers with a bullhorn or those who voted to expel them. up ahead. to doing decisions by federal judges in texas and washington state on friday set

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inside the supreme court's drive to the right and its historic consequences. joan thank you so much for being here. does the court want to have to wade back into abortion so soon after the overturning of roe versus wade? good morning, michael. it's nice to be with you, based on what the slim majority said back on june 24th when they struck down abortion rights. the answer is no. they do not want this still at their court. just consider what justice samuel alito, who wrote for the majority, said it's time to return this issue to the states to elected legislators. hardly it's still with judges, frankly and then brett kavanaugh the key fifth vote in this case. added. this is a moral issue is a policy issue. it should be with the states and one of the things that brett kavanaugh said back in june, when they struck down constitutional abortion rights nationwide was we are not outlawing abortion nationwide. he wanted to make sure that was

clear. but if that texas ruling becomes actually the law of the land effectively, much of abortion will be outlawed nationwide. i have golf. i have the masters on the brain this weekend. i take it therefore, that nobody wants a mulligan. nobody wants a do over. you think that if and when it gets to the supreme court, the lineup will pretty much be the same as it was in the habs case. in the dobbs case, michael? yeah no, it'll be pardon me. i think that it look, you know, you know what i used to say? i used to say they will never overturn roe v. wade and then you know once donald trump got his third appointee on the court, i had had to recalibrate on that. so it's a little difficult to make predictions. but i would say there were five justices who went all the way on roe v. wade with the idea that they were done with it. and that, as brett kavanaugh said, they weren't actually outline nationwide if they get if and when. and they

will michael, get this medication abortion case up there soon, the one from texas i think the votes might be slightly different because it's a different question. consider what's at issue here. it's the authority of the food and drug administration to use its expertise to decide what kind of drugs are on the market. it is not the kind of fundamental questions that they wrestled with last time and i do think there is a chance that you will see. ah, a slightly different rolling here that would allow these pills to still be available for medication. abortion we're within 15 hours of when the ruling came out last night, so i hate to say too much more, but i think the federal government has a much stronger case here where we're at today, michael. okay i'm intrigued. who might who might not line up in their usual spot? if that's the case, so well, this is actually this is easy to game out in some

ways, but, you know, i just want to say we are gaming it out very early. having not seen anything yet of what's going to happen at the first appellate stage, which would be at the fifth circuit, a regional, very conservative appellate court to see what it does, and then we'll get the filings at the supreme court. but that all said okay. i think that someone like brett kavanaugh, who provided the fifth vote to overturn constitutional right to abortion that had existed for nearly 50 years. could allow the federal government to approve this crucial medication abortion drug , which is an issue in the ruling out of texas last night, based on what he said i'm not. i'm not flying blind here. i'm basing it on what he said when he said outright we are not outlawing abortion nationwide. we are leaving into the states. this is this is an issue that should now be in the hands of others and i don't you know, even though justice samuel alito said things like that, also, you

didn't go as far but he said something like that. i would expect that samuel alito might frankly dig in a little bit more and not want to defer to the fda s expertise. but i think that someone like kavanaugh might shift over. just think of what would happen the consequences here two things about the consequences, i think would be important to these justices. they would effectively be ensuring that even states that allow abortion were state legislatures have said. we want the women in our state to be able to end in an unwanted pregnancy. they couldn't get it early stages they wouldn't be able to through a key part of medication abortion, but the other thing that's happened and this goes to the first segment you had on here. just think of what these justices have observed in terms of the fallout from their ruling. they certainly seen a legal fallout, but they've also seen a political fallout. and one of the reasons i used to predict that roe v. wade wouldn't be overturned is that i thought that some justices would be sensitive to what they were doing the way they were

shattering the political landscape as well as the legal landscape. now again, we're very early on but if this single judge in texas is able to be interesting that changes everything nationwide. i think we just have a different kind of rule of law in america. hey i never thought row would be overturned in my lifetime and i was wrong. i'm going to stop saying that, heller, my fingers are actually crossed for this one. i'm going to stop saying that heller won't be overturned because in the aftermath of our first conversation about what just went on in nashville. obviously it's something i'd like to see. joan, that was excellent. thank you so much. thank you, michael. make sure you're voting it smerconish .com and this week's poll question. let's let's prove wrong. that first tweet that said, why are you even asking? it's going to be so lopsided. who was more undemocratic in tennessee lawmakers with a bullhorn or those who voted to expel them still to come. we have learned that after former president

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evidence pointing to possible obstruction by trump, noting quote in the classified documents case, federal investigators have gathered new and significant evidence that after the subpoena was delivered , trump looked through the contents of some of the boxes of documents in his home, apparently out of a desire to keep certain things in his possession, people familiar with the investigation said. smith's task seems rather binary. did trump break the law and cannot be proven, but in the end, it will be left to the man who appointed jack smith. that would be merrick garland to act upon any recommendation and garland will have at his disposal. prosecutorial discretion. when a g garland appointed jack smith, he said that smith would not be subject to the day to day supervision of any official at doj. but will merrick garland feel obligated to follow smith's recommendation? here's what the code of federal regulations says about the powers of a special counsel. the special counsel shall not be the subject to day

to day supervision of any department of the department. however the attorney general may request that the special counsel provide an explanation for any investigative or prosecutorial step, and may after review concluded that the action is so inappropriate. or unwarranted under established departmental practices that it should not be pursued. in conducting that review. the attorney general will give great weight to the views of the special counsel. well, what exactly does that mean? perhaps that the a g will go along with the special counsel unless he finds such a prosecutorial step to be so inappropriate. or unwarranted under established departmental practices. then again, it says, the a g will give great weight to the special counsel. it does not say the a g is obligated to follow the recommendation. so let's game this out. joining me now is anthony kohli, who formerly served as chief spokesman for the doj and merrick. garland anthony. welcome back. how do you read

that code of regulations? citation that i just referenced thank you, michael. for having me it's good to be with you again. the way i see it, merrick garland is not going to play judge or jury with either of smith's investigations. and don't just take my word for the attorney general himself back in november of last year, said that the special counsel shall exercise his own independent prosecutorial judgment to decide whether charges should be brought. and i think that's important. michael back in november of last year, like i said, i was at doj at the time. the attorney general cited both independence and accountability in making this appointment and i'm really glad that you read from the rags because i think what he was ultimately trying to do was to reassure the american people that both of these two politically sensitive investigations were being conducted free from political interference. you are absolutely right. that smith is not subject

to the day to day supervision of anyone. any political appointee or career pointing for that matter at doj that includes the heads of the criminal division, the national security division and even includes the deputy attorney general and the attorney general. so there's a lot there in those rags. but at the end of the day ah, based on the rags and based what the attorney general himself has said this special counsel will exercise his own independent discretion as to whether charges are brought. bottom line if jack smith recommends indictment of donald trump for obstruction of justice, you expect merrick garland to carry that out so long as his actions are consistent with the norms and practices of the department. i think the rags say that the attorney general would do that. doesn't merrick garland have to take into consideration that the presidential race of 2024 has begun the issue of president biden. similarly i get it. it's

not apples to apples but had classified information in his possession that he should not have. mike pence. former vice president a similar issue. not exact same issue. doesn't merrick garland have to take all that into consideration? so i spent two years at the justice department and what i saw prosecutors there do there was to examine the facts independently based on the facts and the law, so i don't and i think if we want to justice department that is guided by the rule of law, they should be guided by those two things and those two things alone, the facts and the law and in these other extraneous factors as important as they appear to be, i think we wanted justice department that follows two things. the facts in the law, and that's what we've got here based on my experience. what do you think your old colleagues at doj thought about the whole proceeding on tuesday. the arraignment the coverage all of the attention of the nation on the arrest of donald trump the arrangement of donald trump in

connection with the stormy daniels case. i think they've got their hands full. michael you just mentioned you just did an incredible segment on what's happening over across the country in texas with regard to this abortion medication, the attorney general last night, said that as you noted that they would appeal that decision. they've got a lot going on. so i don't know that they the they pay too much attention to what happened up in new york. i will say i would like to use this this one moment michael to make a final point, because i'm not a spokesman for the doj anymore. um and i think i think there is a misconception if you will about some of these special counsel regs, and i do think it would be appropriate for the attorney general to make his case. to explain in a little more detail his approach to the evenhanded administration of justice. he hasn't given a television interview in the last nine months. i think he's

overdue for that he hasn't sat with with cbs or cnn, and it's time for him to talk more directly to the american people about these two investigations, to the extent that he can i agree. hey yeah. you have my phone number. why don't you pass it on to him? i would welcome him here on a on a saturday morning of his choosing. thank you, anthony. i appreciate it. thanks, michael. it's good to be with you. what to remind everybody go answer the poll question. it's for con ish .com. i know too many of you. it's like it's a layup. what do you mean? there's an issue there, at least for some who was more undemocratic. in tennessee, the lawmakers with a bullhorn or those who voted to expel them still to come. jury selection scheduled to begin on thursday. yeah. thursday in the blockbuster defamation lawsuit alleging fox news knowingly lied about voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election, and some familiar fox faces are set to take the stand. will the case really go to trial? or is it

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into it, so you get more out of it. jury selection begins in third on thursday and dominion voting systems $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against fox news will fox settled before it goes to trial on april 17. and either way will their viewers ever hear anything about the emails and texts revealed by those in charge of the network didn't believe what it was actually airing dominion is accusing the network of knowingly and repeatedly airing falsehoods. about its voting machines rigging the 2020 election in favor of joe biden. among those who are set to take the stand the network's most prominent hosts like sean hannity and tucker carlson, and high ranking executives, including 92 year old chairman rupert murdoch, himself. joining me now is lee levine. he's a veteran first amendment lawyer who in his long career represented both fox and cnn. he's argued before the supreme court. cnn still uses his former

firm, and he wants represented me years ago. lee nice to see you again. actual malice. that's an awfully high bar, knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard for the truth, but this case seems to be capable of meeting it. you agree. absolutely said this from the very first. longer case of actual mallets than this one against the media and the date. a lot of the deposition testimony, the texts and the emails behind the scenes has come to light in media coverage of the pleadings. can that be imputed to the company at large ? can the company be held accountable for what tucker carlson may have said to a colleague. well, you know, that's the very interesting thing michael about the judge's decision last week, allowing the case to go to trial. the judge basically said that that's an issue for the jury, which means that dominion can put into evidence all of that stuff about

all of those people and will be up to the jury to decide. whether or not any of it is relevant to fox as an entity, state of mind with respect to knowledge of falsity, a reckless disregard of the truth. you know this as well as i do. that is a tremendous boon for dominion. can the defendant in this case fox news wrap themselves in opinion. can they sell? what? we were just this was an item of news interest and we were putting someone on air to express their opinion. we didn't necessarily buy into it. they cannot. the judge took that argument by fox off the table in his decision that was released last week, so the jury is going to be instructed that fox broadcast false statements of fact, about dominion that were defamatory, the only issue in this regard before the jury is whether or not fox published it with knowledge of falsity or

reckless disregard of the truth. and who at fox. whose state of mind with respect the truth or falsity as relevant. those are really the only issues other than damages that the jury is going to be asked to decide. if you were defending the case, what would you be leading with? that's really tough. i think that i would be leading with trying to blow holes in the connecting dots between the various people who said things about sidney powell being not sir rudy java. giuliani being crazy or not believing the truth and what the line producers and the hosts new at the time. but given the evidence, it's in the case. it's going to be hard to blow holes in that line. so if i were defense lawyer handling this case, i wouldn't i would be really worrying about what i could do by way of defense. it

sounds to me like you'd be recommending you'd be laying out the pluses and minuses but perhaps recommending that they settle yeah, i would. if i were asked for a recommendation. i would recommend settlement. i'm surprised that the case has not settled so far. i'm surprised it didn't settle before fox had to produce all of these emails and texts that have now become public. i'm surprised they didn't settle after the briefing went, all of this was played out to the public. my only thought now is that they're waiting for jury selection. to see what kind of jury they draw and whether they feel comfortable that there are at least person or two on that jury who might not be interested in ruling against fox . that's the only thing i can think of that process scheduled to begin on thursday. lee levine, thank you so much nice to see you. great to see you, too. michael, take care. checking in on social media reaction. what do we have? fox

should be required by the jury to admit to their viewers how fox deceived them. this requirement should preface the beginning of every tv segment that airs on fox hour by hour day. you raise citizen gen. you raise a very interesting question, which is, you know, if a tree falls in the forest is the fox view viewer even going to know about this case has gotten extensive publication in the media, but it doesn't get discussed at all. on fox news, even if the case is to resolve with a big check being written, which i anticipate, will their viewers be any the wiser and by the way in some far right media quarters, they have not even taking the lesson from the judge who used all caps and explaining that there is absolutely no basis for any of that, which was said about dominion. in other words, people are not learning the lesson at least yet from what has come out in this case still to come. speaking of lessons, what are the lessons in leadership that we can all learn from a retired navy seal bullfrog who also oversaw the

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simple but not easy. his book is already on the best seller listed amazon. admiral haven great to have you back on the program. bullfrog is not only the title of your book, but a title you once held. what is that? yeah. thanks michel. good to be with you. yes the bullfrog is the title given to the longest serving navy seal on active duty. remember, first and foremost as navy seals. we are navy frogman from our world war two frogman roots. so when you are the senior frogman, you are the bullfrog. do you get anything more than bragging rights? i imagine you never have to buy a beer for yourself. if everybody knows like you're the frogman. i think the hard part of it is when you're the bullfrog. you've got to buy all the beers. the book is broken down comprised of 18 different short chapters. they are models . they are creeds. they are parables, which one most guides your life. you know the very

first chapter is entitled death before dishonor, and it sounds a little course. maybe but this really goes back to the days of caesar. and of course, the united states marine corps has kind of informally adopted this , but the idea being that honor is important. integrity is important. duty is important. the things that we want out of our leaders are things that we should expect. we should expect them to be men and women of integrity. we should expect them to be honorable. we should expect them to be respectful. i don't think that's too much to ask from our leaders. and the fact of the matter is when you have leaders that don't display these qualities. they may build, you know, billion dollar industries, but sooner or later , that's going to be a house of cards, and it may tumble if you don't have leaders with great character and great integrity, so i think this is the single most important quality. you were the commander of the raid that

took out osama bin laden as i mentioned in your introduction that was may one of 2011. maybe that's why i was drawn to the chapter, which is titled who dares wins? tell me about chris farris. and please paint that picture. yes so my senior enlisted when i was the commander of this special operations unit was a command sergeant major, chris faris and chris had been in combat since he was about 18 years old as an army special operator, and so as we were preparing to go on the mission as the seals were preparing to go on the mission myself and sergeant major ferris went out to meet them right before they boarded the helicopter. so if you can imagine 24 seals kind of all up, ready to go there around the fire pit they've got their game face on, and it was time for me and sergeant major ferris to say a few words and i asked chris to speak first. and, of course, the seals around the fire pit had tremendous respect for chris because they knew his military heritage if you will. and he got

up there and he said, gentlemen, he said, you know, we're about to go on this incredibly important mission. remember the saying of our british counterparts who dares wins and the implication is, if you are going to dare greatly if you have an important mission, you're going to have to take great risks, and this was the time to take great risk. caveat that by saying. every time you have a have to take a great risk . you need to make sure it is a calculated risk that you are working all of the wrist out of it as much as possible, so the men or the women can do their job. but this saying who dares wins is important. i think for every commando and for frankly every person trying to achieve something great. i'm going to bring you from the pinnacle of your career to the beginning of your career and mcraven need you to build a frog float. what am i, referring to? yeah, when i was brand new in underwater demolition team 11. it was the first team i was at. i had i was

out on a training exercise and somebody comes and grabs me and says the commanding officer wants to speak with you. well, the commanding officer was the guy in charge. i'm the new guy at the team, and i'm excited. okay he obviously wants me to go on some special mission. maybe i'm going to save the world so go back over. i get into his office and he starts off by saying well, mr mcraven. i've been hearing good things about you. so i kind of swell with pride, you know, and he says, you know, the chief petty officers think you're a terrific incentive thinking great. here it comes, he says, so we've got an important operation for you to do, he says. the fourth of july is coming up and i need someone to build the frog float. and of course, i pause for a second. i didn't quite understand, and he said, you know, frog float, you know, float in the parade. and of course i said, yes, sir. and i left the commanding officer's office and i went back to the locker room. and, you know, i'm kind of feeling sorry for myself. i expected to go on some big mission and he wants me to build this frog float and there was an old master chief master chief petty officer nearby and

he kind of saw me sulking and he said, what's wrong? anderson said. well master chief, you know, the commanding officer wants me to build a frog flirt. and the mass chief said, well, let's and i've been in this business a long time. and let me tell you something. a lot of times you're going to be asked to do things that you think are important, but that are important for the unit. so you go out there and build the best frog float you can and it was a great lesson and we have a picture. we have the admiral, i'm sure i'm showing the picture of the frog float in coronado there, it's a hell of a frog flow. yeah it was. it was a big frog float, but the lesson was sometimes even as a leader. you've got to do things that you think are beneath your stature do, um and do them well. the book's great the wisdom of the bullfrog. nice to have you back. always good to be with you, michael. thank you. still to come more of your best and worst social media comments, and the final result of this week's poll question its work on it .com you've still got a chance to go vote. who was more undemocratic in tennessee lawmakers with a

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played a role is what i'm trying to say. i'm not equating the two don't misunderstand. i'm just framing the issue. i'm not equating the two, but i am acknowledging that everybody played a role here. i mean, representative richie said he voted to oust representative jones. he said this in his interview with jake tapper because representative jones wanted to be thrown out. recognizing the value politically speaking that would come from being expelled so each was serving their respective constituency. one more real quick. here it comes. this is such a lawless such a lawlessness in this country when our elected representatives think they can take over any proceeding just by being the loudest because they should be chastised and removed. okay, we're all hide. my god, you're part of the 9% there, there's someone speaking for those who wanted ouster. keep voting. subscribe to the newsletter. when you're there, i'll see you next week. happy easter.