first to see if you're going to be able to talk to me, and that's okay. but i think it's honest like nobody can say well, you wrote it this way because you were working with lebron. no, i wrote it this way because this is what i saw. this is what i see that the man that i've described in the book is what i saw with unvarnished eyes and i think it's the closest truest portrait i could i could paint um doing the job without sitting down and talking to lebron page 4 70 is my favorite. won't let them audience figure out what you're talking about time, jeff. congratulations to read it of work poring over gosh, endless amounts of information. good. thank you. thank you all. lebron's on sale tomorrow. and we continue right now. supporters of abortion rights are furious this morning over the ruling to block a medication . abortion pill. a judge in

texas gave the biden administration seven days to appeal his decision. very dangerous when you have the vitamin ist rations coming out and saying they may not uphold a ruling. it is an extraordinary example of judicial overreach. the department of justice is opening an investigation into a trove of leaked us intelligence documents that have been posted on social media documents provide a rare window into how the u. s spied on allies and foes alike. it's really problematic because it really generates a lack of trust between nations, both friends and foes. monday evening, the metro council will decide the political fate of former representative justin jones heard from thousands of constituents and they want him back in the seat. tennessee house republicans attempt to crucify democracy as instead resurrected a movement cowardice. selfishness of the legislators in antonio's first

head coach gregg popovich, sounding off on lawmakers in the wake of the nashville school shooting freedom, freedom for kids to go to school. price socialize. and try to learn and be scared to death that they might die that day. rahm wins the masters marathon. john graham began the week here at augusta with a double bogey. he has ended it as a double major winner. never thought i was going to cry about winning a golf tournament, but i got very close on that 18th hole. yeah awesome win for him, always magical to watch and soothing and exciting. all the emotions when you're watching the masters , especially what happened? you're smiling a lot. you know i didn't want to masters but i'm so proud of him only 28 years old. no that's amazing. palmer was also 28 when he won them out. maybe he'll get a lemonade and backroom after him right now

is a wake up. so we have a lot to talk about this hour. thank you for joining us. everyone, i hope you had a great holiday. welcome back to work if you are indeed back to work in school as well. in the meantime, a federal judge in texas has ignited a new battle over abortion pills that could reach the supreme court. the department of justice has already appealed to texas judge's ruling to suspend the fda approval of memphis crestone . the medication has been widely available for women across the nation for more than two decades . the health and human services secretary javier becerra says that the judge's ruling is and i quote here, reckless telling our dana bash that it could put all fda approved medicines in jeopardy. when you turn upside down the entire fda approval process you're not talking about just myth, mr kristo. you're talking about every kind of drug you're talking about our vaccines. you're talking about insulin. you're talking about the new alzheimer's drugs that may come on if a judge decides to substitute his preferences, personal opinion for that of

scientists and medical professionals. what drug isn't subject to some kind of legal challenge straight out to arlette signs live at the white house for us this morning. good morning to you are led. some democrats are urging the fda to flat out ignored the ruling. what's up? dan. good morning. the white house is working through how exactly they can protect access to this medication abortion as the country grapples with this latest flashpoint in the abortion debate. the white house this morning, staring down a new battle over abortion. what you saw by that one judge in that one court in that one state that's not america. at the heart of the fight. trump appointed federal judge in texas suspending fda approval of mythic kristen siding with the anti abortion groups who questioned the drug safety. the ruling is on pause for a few more days, but it could put access to medication abortion in jeopardy across the country. to what makes for good public policy. to allow courts and

politicians to tell the fda what it should do. the justice department quickly filing an appeal and vowing to seek a stay as it winds its way through the courts. at the same time, a federal judge in washington ruling the fda must keep the pill available in 17 democratic led states, plus the district of columbia. the competing decisions could set up a showdown at the supreme court one year after it ruled constitutional right to an abortion. shin does not exist. president biden vowing to fight that decision out of texas every step of the way some democrats pushing for the fda to ignore the ruling, but i do not believe that the courts have the authority to have the authority over the fda that they just asserted, and i do believe that it creates a crisis while republicans warned against it, house republicans have the power of the purse, and if the

administration wants to not not lead this ruling not live up to this ruling, then we're going to have a problem. the secretary appearing to leave the door open , everything is on the table. the president said that way back when the dobbs decision came out , every option is on the table. but a spokesperson later walking that back saying, quote as dangerous a president it sets for a court to disregard after today's expert judgment regarding a drug safety and efficacy. it would also set a dangerous precedent for the astray shin to disregard a binding decision. now beyond the appeal, the white house has yet to outline what steps they can take to protect access to this abortion pill, but they might be very limited in what they can actually do. they were able to pass on to enact some very limited protections for abortion . in the wake of that dobbs decision in the president's calls to codify roe v. wade into law just simply don't have the votes up on capitol hill. so for

now, they will be watching how this plays out in the fifth circuit court of appeals, which is considered to be one of the country. is most conservative appeals courts. alright, let's signs thank you. it's a good point about the fifth circuit, okay with more providers with more how providers are handling what is confusion in these conflicting court decisions. let's bring in our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen will get to the those questions in a moment, but can you just walk through the facts ? what we know about the safety of medford per stone? poppy this is a very safe drug. not only did it go through rigorous fda approval 23 years ago, but it's been used for 23 years in the united states by millions of women and has a very good safety profile. in fact, if you're really, really worried about deadly side effects of the drugs that can happen with any drug, then you should take penicillin off the market deadlier than this drug. you should take viagra off the market deadlier than this drug. so this is a very safe drug right now. in the united states, at least 53

percent of abortions more than 53% of abortions are done with this drug and another drug in combination. now, let's take a look at what this means. when we take a look at the united states if you see the states in red abortion is banned. they can't use these pills now, anyhow, so this decision doesn't really affect them in the same way, but the yellow states where it's allowed with restrictions and the green states where it's allowed, it's going to really affect them. i was speaking with an attorney who represents several different abortion clinics. and she said, listen, i'm telling my clients starting saturday if nothing changes starting saturday, you cannot use these pills. and so that is going to mean really serious health consequences from for many, many women in many, many states. can we talk a little bit more about the potential options for physicians and clinicians moving forward elizabeth. right so there is surgical abortion in you know, some states. obviously

not all is an option. also i mentioned that this drug is used in combination with another drug . so you could just used the other drug that is possible, but it's not really it's not approved for that. i mean, you can still do it, but it is not as effective you might have to take more of it. that could cause more pain for the woman. so there is that other option, but it's not an ideal option. the idea, though, that this could undermine the fda has authority over all, because i mean this drug was approved over 20 years ago. how does it affect or 20 years ago? i think exactly now, how does it affect how the fda operates moving forward with all these major questions from republicans and democrats over if they should ignore the ruling? what it means for the fda? elizabeth? what about that? you know, we just heard from biden administration officials saying that this is really unprecedented. this is basically saying that anyone judge pick a judge anyone judge can overrule all the work that the fda has done when someone applies to get

a drug on the market. when a pharmaceutical company applies they spend months and months going over, sometimes years, going over the data consulting with external experts. they're all scientists and the fact that one judge can just overturn it is unprecedented and really pretty scary. i wanted to take a look. i want to read to you. apart from one of the legal briefs that was filed by the government. in this case, i think it's worth really spelling it out in this brief, the government says if longstanding fda drug approvals were so easily enjoined, in other words, were so easily reversed even decades after being issued pharmaceutical companies would be unable to confidently rely on fda approval decisions to develop the pharmaceutical drug infrastructure. that americans depend on to treat a variety of health conditions. in other words, pharmaceutical companies might say, you know what? we don't want to invest millions of dollars in r and d for a drug. it's just one guy or one gal. one judge can say. yeah i don't like this drug. let's take it off the market. yeah, it could have serious implications. elizabeth cohen. we'll see what

the courts decide. thank you. yes. also this morning, the department of justice has now launched an investigation into the leak of pentagon documents that were posted online. us officials have confirmed that some of the docucucu are authentic. the leak poses a serious risk to relationships with us allies and military options in ukraine, but there is also a concern from ukraine to the documents may have been altered, or maybe part of a misinformation campaign for perspective on this. joining us now is retired u. s army major mike lyons. i mean, this is astounding, because what these documents show one is the new york times put it that the us has basically penetrated every russian security apparatus has great insight into it. but as david singer writes in the new york times today, you know this is a disclosure because it's fallout in real time because some of these documents already been 40 days old, so you can actually see what they know right now about what's happening in ukraine. that's right. i'm having a hard time getting my head around this. i mean, if there's 50 classified documents, there's 50 separate stories that

are going to impact on the ground in ukraine right now, the fact that they gave away their air defense platforms and where those locations were the fact troop movements. so they're talking about artillery rounds. we all know that ukraine is running out of artillery. so the this level of breach is significant in the fact that we've kind of asleep at the switch. we had indications that was going on the past few months. we've got to do a better job monitoring these sites. these discord sites that have this kind of information out there. it came from the highest levels of our government. that joint staff these documents they were they were removed. obviously, from a briefing, there were there were pictures. of these presentations. so again, the damage assessment, i still think is going on and it's very significant, and now all these holes are likely getting closed up. it's going to cause significant trust issues between us and ukraine. but it does put into respect perspective. don't you think? the story that we've been covering about all these classified documents that are ending up? you know, at personal residences and so forth. just the danger that this poses correct. it's not just over classification. this is serious

stuff. i mean, this is things get over classified based on what might embarrass things within our country. this has national security implications on the ground signals intelligence sigint it so to speak. it's it shows us eavesdropping on our allies. it speaks to the fact that humans now human intelligence sources could be burned on the ground there. people could be lives are at stake now with this kind of stuff, i mean, katelyn polantz about like a real time right now . information about ukraine, etcetera. but at the same time, what was also included in the reporting from the times over the weekend is, uh, sensitive briefing slides on china, the entire indo pacific military theater, the middle east terrorism. it goes so far, even beyond. on the current conflict. i mean, considering relations with look what china and taiwan. look, look what's happening right now. intelligence agencies now have got to focus on this to close gaps. mitigate risk figure out what the damage is with regard to this this information , taking our eye off the ball

and what's happening in the pacific, china, russia could use this against our democratic allies and say, look, why should you trust united states are going to give them information information came from other countries. it had certain classifications that only certain other countries that had new zealand australia, not even normal, native no allies, so to speak, so this is a significant breach up there with snowden, wikileaks and with regard i hope we're closing ranks pretty quickly to figure out what happened. and the point that david singer makes with snowden is those were things were three years old. and this is because of how new this is, um, you know, eavesdropping on allies spying on allies. not exactly surprised. everyone knows that everyone does it, but it's the idea that it's put out in the forefront can cause tension in those relationships. what i was most struck by was what they said about what's happening in israel, and there was as intially this allegation of this intelligence that massad is basically despite chiefs in israel had helped foment the protests that we saw play out that we've been covering here every day when it comes to the judicial reform that's happening

in israel. it gets to the reason why these documents were released. they, you know, did someone have this level of intellect that recognize that that would cause that kind of a problem? but again that came from sig signals intelligence signals operations eavesdropping, so to speak. ah but and whether or not the united states had any saying that really remains to be seen, but but the person who released this information cruelly wanted to hurt the us israel relations with that kind of breach. yeah just our allies relationships. as you said, it's not surprising that everybody spies on everyone , but still it's not out there for everyone to read and remember, whenever it was reported about, you know, with merkel when she was the chancellor, and it caused a huge rift. with the obama white house . um yeah, just amazing. i mean, we'll continue to see where this investigation goes. thank you for stating the significance of it this morning. thanks my client. just moments ago, china wrapped up its three day military exercise near taiwan. beijing has sent dozens of warplanes over the self governing island, which it

considers its own territory at one point the planes formed an all around encirclement with 45 of them entering taiwan's air defense zone. china claims that it is simply responding to taiwan's colluding with external forces. that is a reference to tyronne, taiwan's president, meeting with house speaker kevin mccarthy. just last week, taiwan is calling on china to exercise restraint this morning. israel we're just talking about israel. israel launching strikes against syrian military targets this is in response to six rockets fired into its territory overnight, israeli forces say fighter jets and a drone hit multiple targets , including a syrian military compound. the exchanges follow recent escalation of regional attention after israeli police raided jerusalem's oxen mask. you saw video of that happening multiple times last week or some abdulaziz is live for us in jerusalem with more good morning, salma what is the latest? you can tell us on the ground. i'm just going to take

you to the latest breaking news, which is out of the west bank palestinian health ministry saying that a 15 year old palestinian boy was shot in killed by israeli forces in the occupied west bank near the city of jericho. now we do know the israeli military, according to a statement was operating in the area, but they haven't confirmed the death toll. but this is just yet another incident in these mounting these escalating tensions that that come at a time when all three faiths were celebrating observing religious occasions just behind me here in the walls of the old city. you had easter mass taking place during prayers for passover, taking place during prayers for ramadan, all under a very heightened security presence. it did pass peacefully. but again, i want to take you back to the west bank, where yesterday there were two funerals held one for two british israeli sisters that had been shot and killed in what israeli police say was a terrorist attack again in the west bank and another for a young palestinian man, a 20 year old who was shot and killed by

israeli forces, they say after he threw explosive devices towards them. i bring up these funerals because you know that cycle of grief, violence, anger . that's what fuels this conflict. that's what leads to these mountains. these escalating tensions across this region, poppy, what are you expecting? in terms of the demonstrations that are have been held consistently but are going to continue at the west along the west bank today. absolutely so. these are very specifically demonstrations that are being held by settlers in the west bank. they're being attended by a very controversial figure. ben gave you a very far right wing minister here. he has been convicted in the past of terrorism of inciting against arabs. he is extremely controversial figure that again visited the al aqsa mosque complex, known as temple mount to jews earlier this year. he has been a figure that has been this leading voice for this extremist for this right wing movement again. he's going to be part of the settlement protest.

at the west bank where again there was these two funerals held where we just have this incident taking place all of this again feeding fueling fears and concerns and the worry that this just continues to mount this escalating violence copies salma abdelaziz really appreciate the reporting. thank you live from jerusalem. today nashville city council could vote to reinstate one of the state lawmakers expelled last week, the vice mayor of nashville called the special meeting he's going to join us live that's coming up. cnn this morning. is brought to you by vivid guard. for adults with who are positive, versatileis cooling receptor tibodies. it may feel le the world is moving without you, but the picture is changing with gart clinical trial participants achieved improved daily abilities added to their current

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wide plus get free design services uber dot com arianna vogue at the supreme court, and this is cnn. we have been expelled for standing with our constituents, but i have no regrets will continue to speak up for district 52 for tennessee ins demanding change. so later today, justin jones. you saw him right there. that was on friday, one of two democratic tennessee state lawmakers who was expelled last week could get his seat back jones, along with justin pearson, were expelled from the republican led legislature after participating in a protest over gun legislation. while the house

was in session, gloria johnson was also up for an expulsion vote. she survived. the national metropolitan council is tasked with deciding who will phil jones vacancy until the state can set up a special election. now the council will meet today they could vote to saint jones back to the statehouse. here's what jones told us on friday. if the natural city council next week wants to appoint you as an interim representative district, you would do it. most definitely let me ask you. why why? considering all everything that has happened right now, why even go through all the rigmarole? because it's important to let them know that democracy. we will fight for democracy will fight for a multiracial democracy. and so this this extreme tactic to expel us into trying to humiliate us has only put a spotlight of the world on tennessee. and so i will go back

because fighting for the future i'm 27 years old fighting for the future that i want to live in that i want my children to live in. it's worth whatever sacrifices that we have to give. that was justin jones joining us on friday. and you know it could take weeks. if this is normal procedure for the legislature, but they're trying to do a special session to suspend the rules to try to reinstate these members, starting with justin jones, first and then later on believably, possibly for justin pearson. so joining us now natural vice mayor jim showman he called for today's special meeting. mayor good morning. thank you. i know it's very busy time for you. you haven't had a lot of rest, and we appreciate you joining us. do you think the council's gonna vote? how do you think they're going to vote this evening? well you never you never quite sure of what they're gonna do. we have 39 members of our metropolitan council. um it just takes two to, um not suspend the rules. so um, what you'll see this afternoon will start promptly at 4, 30 central time and there will be a motion

to suspend the rules if it's two people object were back on the basic rule, which is our rule 49, which says that we have to wait for weeks. but it's um if we don't get that many objections, then we can suspend the rules for council suspended and we can vote tonight. and my guess is, um if we do that the council vote to send representative justin jones right back to the tennessee state house. are you optimistic about what will happen? yeah it's been a long couple of days since all this happened, um, we were we were watching just like everyone else. on thursday. we already with our notice to call a special meetings. um i think i think we've heard loud and clear from people in nashville across the state of tennessee and across the country that yeah. democracy needs to be sort of these two gentlemen need to be sent back immediately to the tennessee statehouse. alright, let's let's be clear for our

audience rules changes needed a rules. change is needed to reinstate jones this evening and you want to see him reinstated. you saw the divide. it was along party lines. so you think that the republican leaning members will vote for jones to be reinstated. um so, um, but the state legislature has about three or four weeks left before they adjourned for the summer. we um or we very much want that district district 52 to be represented, and so the way to do that is to immediately about someone and put them back in and he used to choice. so i think what will happen? hopefully today is example happened and no one we won't have any objections and we will be able to move properly and send him right back. so let's just say you're optimistic about it. but what if the measure to reinstate him fails? what recourse do you have left this and what recourse is he have to regain his seat, if

any well, so from our standpoint , it's a rule. it's a council room. we're not changing the rules. just suspending it rule. 49 says that the vice mayor at the next council meeting after there's a vacancy in an elected position, announces the vacancy will do that tonight and then we're supposed to wait four weeks. typically this happens because someone neither changes office or someone has this away and nominations come in. in this case, i think the council pretty clear about who we want to put in that position. it's justin jones and, um if we get objections to suspending the rules, then we're back on rule 49. we'll have to wait for weeks. if that happens, then we'll see if there's something else that we can do. um but i believe that the council is gonna sustainable tonight. they're going to vote to send him right back. so you listen,

you had two black members, right ? both black young men, and then you had a white woman who was not who was spared right? gloria jones was spared. um expelling jones and pearson has been labeled as racist. it certainly looks that way on its face. if you just look at the actual fact of it. do you think race played a role in what happened to these two young black members? well i know, i know a number of the members of the statehouse. i certainly hope that wasn't the case, but it doesn't look good on his face. are you concerned about political or financial retribution? for the state here. for the state. sure how so we've done. we've got national attention for something that that at least i believe should never have happened. um i know that you have to have rules and procedures. we have them just like in the in the council. we

have rules, just like in the statehouse. so you've got to follow the rules, but you know, it's people do something that violates the quorum of the chamber. they're simple things that can be done that, you know. the handled that situation voted to expel members from legislative body is not the answer. vice mayor we appreciate you joining us. we would like to offer you the opportunity to come back regardless of what happens tonight and beyond. so thank you for appearing. okay? vice mayor jim shulman. thank you. alright well, senator richard blumenthal, breaking his leg at the yukon men's basketball victory parade will give you the latest on his recovery this morning, wishing him the best. also this morning , there's new reaction to a federal judge's decision to suspend the fda approval that's

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cnn. wins the masters marathon. golfer. a new golfer, adding the famous green jacket to his wardrobe 28 year olds. benyon john rome claimed victory at the 87th masters yesterday. this is his first masters win and a second major championship win. he is the first european player to win both the masters in the u. s open. he entered the final round, two strokes behind live golf's brooks kept to before heading over and taking over the lead. he finished 1200 parts joining us from augusta. don riddell, cnn host for worlds for this was so great to see and as we've been reminded all morning how old caitlin th same ages. i wish me, arnold palmer said. major was like i'm 31 now, bobby

. same age as don randall. what was it like to be there? hmm. i was amazing. yeah and it was an eventful and tempestuous weekend . i'm sure you've seen the video of the trees falling in all the rain. it was absolutely miserable on saturday. it was glorious on sunday, and it kind of felt like destiny fulfilled. john ram is one of these guys who he says some people learn how to win. some people are born with it. he told me before the tournament that he was born with all of it and spanish golfers. have a special connection with augusta national's westeros, jose maria hobble sergio garcia . and now john ram, winning the green jacket, and he said afterwards that this is something he's wanted for as long as he can remember. i've wanted to win it ever since. i thought about about golf and well being a champion would be just the wave of emotion of so many things overtook me. i never

thought i was going to cry if i went in a golf tournament, but i got very close on that 18th hall and a lot of it because of what he means to me and to spanish golf. yeah really, really wonderful scenes at the end john ram, celebrating with his young family, with all available as well, very, very special stuff. you know, congratulations to him, obviously. but you know the other story that people are talking about noticeable figure who was missing from sunday's five time masters champion if from sunday's five time masters champion tiger woods he had to withdraw from the tournament due to an injury. do you think we're going to see him in a gust again? don so sad. i mean, look , everybody hopes, so he's an absolute legend, an icon. he's transformed this sport for his generation, and you know, but it brings into really sharp focus. the answer he gave me last tuesday when i said to him when you're out on the course. do you find yourself thinking? this could be the last time and here

we are. he had to pull out. he hardly plays anymore. last year, he only played three of the four majors, and of those three he missed the cabin one he pulled out after the third round in another here, we see him. unable to complete the third round here to be fed him. the conditions were absolutely terrible. there's no way that somebody who's been through everything he has would have enjoyed playing in those conditions, but it does feel as though he is stepping, if not limping. into the twilight of his career. yeah. yeah. we'll see what happens. it was amazing. still to watch that win yesterday to see that with brooks kept a and all of them, of course, now has a pretty big purse that he is taking home with him. so congrats to him. thank you. don don don see you soon. i was just thinking about how much, he said. twilight of your career. how much more athletes often do after you know ? yeah they just do big things in different ways. different other sports news, so tempers are flaring on the final days of the nba regular season. minnesota timberwolves center

rudy gobert apologizing this morning after getting into it with teammate kyle anderson on the sidelines of yesterday's game with the new orleans pelicans. gobert saying afterwards emotions got the best of him. he was sent to the locker room and ruled out for the rest of the game and in phoenix. spurs teammates mason, plumlee and bones. highland had some words on the bench as they took on the sun's before highlands shove, plumlee teammates stepped in to break it up the word yet on potential defense. this disciplinary action from the nba also in some sports news, but not an athlete himself. democratic senator richard blumenthal of connecticut is recovering this morning after he had surgery after he broke his leg during the yukon n c double a victory parade on saturday. senator says the surgery was completely successful, and he is planning to return to votes when the senate is back in washington next week, he will not be marching in parades in the near future. the democratic caucuses , narrow 51 to 49 advantage and

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halted. in the second case. a judge in washington ordered the federal government to keep the drug available in 17, liberal states. democratic led states. we should note plus the district of columbia the rulings came down within an hour of each other, and they have set up a legal showdown that is likely to reach the supreme court. the health and human services secretary javier becerra says that the body administration is reviewing all of their options after that ruling from the texas judge on friday, which would effectively suspend the fda approval of that abortion pill. and i believe that a and appeals court the supreme court, whatever court has to understand that this ruling by this one judge overturns not just access to mifid kristen, but possibly any number of drugs. what if they don't? that speculation that i think is not worth engaging in. are you taking it off the table that you will recommend the fda ignore? a ban . everything is on the table. the president said that way back when the dobbs decision came

out, every option is on the table. i should note that after that interview a few hours later, a spokesperson for the health and human services services department walked his comment back, saying that quote people are rightly frustrated about this decision. but it's dangerous precedent. it sets for a court to disregard the fda is expert judgment regarding a drug's safety and efficacy. it would also set a dangerous president for the administration to disregard a binding decision. joining us now for more on this is republican congresswoman nancy mace of south carolina. good morning, congressman, congressman and thank you for joining us. do you think that a judge in texas should be able to say that an fda s determination about a drug is invalid? i don't . in fact, when you look at the court case in the ruling here, the judge used a enact or a law from the 18 hundreds that was overturned by the supreme court . at least the supreme court decided in 1983 over 100 years later, roughly that that law was unconstitutional and that was

the basis for his argument last week, and look, this is an fda approved drug whether you agree with its usage or not, that's not your decision that is the fda decision on the efficacy, safety and usage. of that particular drug. do you agree here then with comments from people like your colleague, alexandria, ocasio cortez. the biden administration should ignore this ruling that the fda should ignore this ruling. well well, i mean, you know, this is the judicial branch and we have a court system. i do think that this is going to be relegated to the courts. there are other lawsuits that are going on right now. i would. this is an fda approved drug i support the usage of fda approved drugs. even if we might disagree. it's not up to us to decide as legislators or even you know, as the court system that whether or not this is the right drugs use or not number one, so i agree with ignoring it at this point, but there are other lawsuits that are happening right now and other states as well over this issue, but to look at the case

itself when you look at the law that the judge used an old law that the supreme court said was unconstitutional, the sanction just be thrown out. quite frankly. so you think the fda should ignore this? i would. yes i would. this is an issue that republicans have been largely on the wrong side of we have over the last nine months, not shown compassion towards women, and this is one of those issues that i've tried to lead on as someone who's pro life and just have some common sense and the state of south carolina just a few weeks ago, we had some folks in the state legislature that essentially wanted to execute women who had abortions. so we've got some extreme views on this issue. but 90% of america somewhere in the middle, and i think that that 90 percent would be okay with listening to the fda rather than a judge who used an old law that was determined unconstitutional by the supreme court. i think the vast majority of americans would support that decision, and i know you. you think that your party has gotten it wrong on abortion the way that they message on it. you

think that the house majority would be bigger if republicans are better? so what do you what do you say to you know, texas republican tony gonzalez, who suggested that the republican led house should consider d funding. some of the fda is programs if they ignore this court's decision. well i mean, he's everybody's welcome to their own opinion. i represent a very purple district that is really a bellwether for the rest of the country. and i can tell you far more than the vast majority of 60 70% are not of americans are not going to agree with this decision. and there are many pro life people that also while they're pro life, they don't want the government to intervene and this radical of a manner and the f b d a has a rigorous process. that they go through on drug approvals. most of the time they get it right when they don't there are lawsuits regarding the efficacy of those drugs. and there's already another lawsuit, but what this judge did the basis of his ruling. there's really no basis for it because he used a law that the supreme court said

was unconstitutional in 1983. it's really it's sort of a rogue thing that's happening right now. there have been efforts afoot both stay in different states and nationally, did the fund certain agencies over certain decisions. you see that happening on both sides of the aisle? on those are tools that people can use. but i will tell you we are getting it wrong on this issue. we've got to show some compassion to women, especially women who've been raped. we've got to show compassion on the abortion issue because by and large the most most of americans aren't with us on this issue. yeah congressman, you made a lot of news there. you do think that the fda should ignore this ruling? that's really notable. i do want to ask you also about a new report in the new york times. talking about house speaker kevin mccarthy's strained relationship with his top deputies in the house. do you have confidence in republican leadership as it stands right now in the house? i do have confidence in our leadership. i will tell you i am very focused on my district in my state. i do believe that we have some issues in terms of where are we going? from a

policy standpoint, we're going to have the debt ceiling debate . i haven't seen a budget or a spending plan yet. that's something that we need to have on the table long before we have that vote. i want to see us look at inflation and supply chain issues. but look at it in a way. that can make a difference, because right now, most of what we've done cannot pass the senate. we've not been effective in that manner, spoken to our leadership on some women's issues, and i'm working on. i'm also working on gun violence issues. i just had a mass shooting a mile down the street from where my me and my kids were on friday night. there are a lot of issues that people are passionate about that republicans are afraid to address. and these are the things that we need to be talking about this country and i'm i hope to lead on some of those efforts and urge my leadership to do the same. when we last spoke on march 12th you were saying you wanted to see the republican budget here it is now. almost april. 12th have you still seen any formation of the republican budget? where is the republican budget? i have not seen one yet, and that's something that we're going to

have to address. when we come back in session later this month. we've got to show the american people that we have ideas that can that are supported by folks on both sides of the aisle. if you want to get anything done, and that's what we need to do this year. congresswoman nancy mace, we always appreciate your time. thank you very much. you know, you'll be back in washington next week. thank you. yeah thank you, caitlin. that's incredibly notable to hear from her as a republican congresswoman, agreeing with not only congresswoman alexander acosta cortez senator ron wyden. those who have said ignore the court here, but counter right to what hhs came out, saying yesterday after the bezerra interview saying that they yeah, they were saying basically, they didn't think they could ignore a ruling from the judge saying that that would set a dangerous precedent . of course, there are some legal experts who raised questions about whether or not they do. of the authority to do that, you know, even some lawmakers have said that they should do that, but so striking to hear. nancy mace, of course, she is very outspoken on abortion. she has been very candid about her views of how

the republican party handles abortion, but she says that they've gotten it wrong here that the fda should ignore this court ruling and move forward from there and also being pretty critical of the judge in that situation on what his basis was, which is what you know jonas are saying earlier was very much in the weeds on what the fda authority is here, but also being very critical of our party, saying that her party the american people aren't with the party and that there's nuance with this, especially for um you know, as it relates to women and who should win. women should get an abortion. i thought it was an outstanding interview. definitely news making thanksgiving feeling the pentagon investigating a leak of what appears to be a lot of classified intel intelligence on the war in ukraine. current recent intelligence in the midst of this war wide, is being called one of the most damaging intelligence breaches in decades . something major happened on succession last night. or so we heard. we haven't seen it yet. we're talking about the etiquette of office spoilers

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this is not america. what you saw by that one judge in that one court in that one state that's not america. good morning , everyone that is who you're hearing from there. the health and human services secretary javier becerra weighing into dana bash because the judge's ruling in texas is now set off a major battle over abortion pills in this battle could reach the supreme court. i just talked to a republican member of congress who says the fda should ignore the judge's ruling. what happens with that? plus the pentagon is trying to figure out how highly sensitive classified documents about the war in ukraine leaked online. and ukrainian children held against their will for months by the russians, finally reuniting with their families look at those images. their harrowing journey home ahead. can't wait to see that. but this morning we're going to begin with the pentagon scrambling to do damage control after highly classified documents about the war in ukraine leaked online photos of the documents started appearing on social media in recent weeks. they contain sensitive intelligence, including ukrainian