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is down to one john berman here in for anderson. late today, officials in nashville voted to reinstate justin jones, one of the two lawmakers expelled from the statehouse. last week. the second justin j. pearson of memphis, joins us shortly. and the third lawmaker who was not sanctioned, took part in a protest against gun violence in the wake of the covenant school, mass murder just a few miles from the statehouse, jones and pearson's expulsion for violating decorum, essentially talking out of turn sparked local protests and international outcry. now in a horrible turn of events, people in neighboring kentucky are living through a mass shooting of their own, and we will have a live report in louisville just ahead. first though cnn's ryan young in nashville for us tonight, and ryan, you spoke to representative jones after he was reappointed. so what did he tell you? john this was amazing to see we saw it all play out right there in front of us, not only from city council and then the march down the street here
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to the state capital. but all these thousands of people showed up to be here for a rally to walk up the stairs here to the state capital, and this all played out right for us right there at the state capitol. that's where he was sworn in. on those steps. people were cheering. they were yelling. they said they wanted their voices to be heard. and let's just say this justin zone says he was energized by what happened and he said the fight is not over just yet. take a listen. today we send a clear message to speaker cameron sexton that the people will not allow his his crimes against the mark. see that happen without challenge. we are calling on house speaker cameron sexton to resign. a speaker of the house. he is an enemy of democracy. and john more than 1000. people marched with him all the way from city hall and then walk through that front door. and then, of course, when they swore him in right there on the steps that he went and got his old plaque back and went into that.
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see the battle here won't stop for quite some time because, remember, they were appointed back to the seat and we're told that will have to be a special election. so this process is not over just yet, but you can just tell by the energy that's surrounding the city right now that they believe they have finally sort of cracked the surface in terms of getting people. understand what's going on in the state. and this process tonight that you just saw was for representative jones . in a moment, i'm going to speak to representative justin pearson. what was the timetable for his possible reinstatement? well, they are talking about wednesday. so of course there was this talk across the state about whether or not what could happen here at the statehouse might affect shelby county and whether not funds would be held back. but now we're hearing we believe that what will happen in memphis will pearson will get a chance to come back to the house . but he he was here today to and energized the crowd and see both these young men standing together strong addressing this crowd. the crowd came to hear these two people. at some point it sounded like they were
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addressing like of rock concert because it was so loud here where people amped up and pumped up to go into the statehouse. people admitted to us today they had never been to the state capital, but they wanted to be here to support these two young men who they felt like were unjustifiably kicked out of the safe house last week to elected officials both expelled one now reinstated ryan young, thank you very much now to the other. joining us now the man in question, representative justin j. pearson, representative. thanks so much for being with us your reaction tonight to your colleague being reappointed to the tennessee legislature. and are you confident that you will be reinstated on wednesday. first i want to honor the victims of another mass shooting in our country and louisville. and the mass shooting here in nashville at the covenant school that elevated this real conversation for the need to end gun violence in our communities. that's the issue that we got expelled for standing up against the national rifle association and standing up against gun lobbyists. and so one i still
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mourn with everyone who is still mourning. and while we celebrate our brother, representative jones and the democratic process of people who have decided that we are tired of the injustice of the republican majority of the tennessee state house who are decided that they are going to have a mob ocracy rather than a democracy. we continue this fight and this movement and this momentum towards justice. how do you think you will be received? given that you were voted out by supermajority? if you re are in you are reinstated on wednesday . how do you think that republican majority will greet you? i don't know exactly how the republican party is going to greet us into the future. what i do know is that the people who are advocating for change the people who want to see an end to gun violence, the people who are asking that our legislators do something that people who continue to march and protest and who continue to show up the children and the teenagers and the grandmother to the republican party called insurrectionists, who were peaceful protesters are going to continue to demand that justice happened. and if i have the
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opportunity to serve the people of memphis and millington in shelby county as district, 86 is representative in disappointment and hope fully in elected office . i promise to elevate the issues of our community and that stopped because the issues of justice in the state of tennessee in the state that too often is silencing those who are marginalized that is intentionally expelling voices of people who are saying we have to do something about gun violence who are exercising our first amendment that is given to us in the constitution if it is the will of god and the people in shelby county for me to serve, i promise to continue to do so. and i'm going to do it. i believe with all of the people who continue to show up for us in this moment who are saying it's enough and now is the time for us to create change in this state. talk to me about maybe the split feelings that you brought up yourself to see your colleague reinstated today but also today to see a mass shooting were four people were gunned down in a neighboring state. it's a sobering reality that we are in that we are not doing enough to prevent gun
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violence. it is a sad and another tragic day in our country where we know the decisions of people in power. decisions of people who could actually do something to prevent gun violence in our schools in our banks in our communities by preventing guns from getting in the hands of individuals who have them. the people in positions of power are refusing to act and it is a tragedy that that is our reality. and at the same time we're seeing people who are pleading for democracy to work. the people at nashville metro council people in shelby county that the county commission our communities are pleading for democracy to work in order that we might be able to affect the change that we need. and so, yes, it is. it is multiple emotions celebration and of the determination of the people who want to see justice happened with representative jones being receded and it also painful moment of recognition that our legislators and people like cameron sexton and the republican party in tennessee and across the south in this country are not doing nearly enough to prevent guns from getting in the hands of people and doing all of the holistic work of gun prevention that is necessary in places across our communities, including in
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memphis and millington. my district very quickly if you are reinstated. would you engage in the type of behavior that republicans say they expelled you for? would you demonstrate again like you did on the house floor? i believe that our actions were wholly justified and that even though we broke a rule of decorum, we stood up and we spoke for people who needed us to speak for them. voices of children and adults who will never be able to speak again. and so i believe what we did was right. and it was four right and that we have a responsibility now and our legislators in this legislature legislator now need to do more to stop and in gun violence. it is preventable and we aren't doing nearly enough. would you break the rules of decorum again to make that point? sometimes rules have to be broken in order for the people who've been pushed to the periphery to be brought to the center of the conversation. sometimes rules have to be broken in order for the voices that have been marginalized and told that they are voiceless to be heard. sometimes rules have
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to be broken in order for us to create justice. and if that is what is necessary for justice to happen, then that is what is necessary. and as you see district 86 in our community were willing to risk it all for people to be safe. we're willing to risk it all for justice to roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever flowing stream and we will not stop. events like we have not seen happening in nashville before our eyes, representative pearson. we do appreciate you being with us tonight. look forward to speaking with you again. thank you. we'll keep fighting. now as we and he just mentioned the very reality and tragedy of those three tennessee lawmakers were protesting it has happened again. another lone killer with another ar 15 type rifle committee, yet another act of mass murder two weeks ago it was a school in nashville. this time, a bank in louisville, kentucky. the killer, an employee reportedly about to be fired. he's now dead. sadly saw . so are four others. they are tommy elliott age 63 64, josh
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barrack 40 and juliana farmer. she was 45. nine others were hurt in the shooting, including a newly minted police officer who was severely wounded more on all of it now from cnn's omar jimenez. in just moments. four people were killed in nine others injured at this bank in louisville, kentucky. officers were on scene within three minutes. the suspect shot at officers. we then returned fire and stop that threat. police revealing the shooter was an employee at the bank and had livestreamed the attack. suspect was live framing. and unfortunately, that's that's tragic. to know that that incident was out there and captured enforcement source telling cnn the shooter had also learned he was going to be fired and wrote a note to his parents and a friend indicating he was going to shoot at the bank. louisville's head of police
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solemnly reading the names of the victims. at an afternoon press conference, tommy elliott. 63 years of age. jim tut. 64 years of age. josh barrett, 40 years of age and juliana farmer. among those injured in the attack. two police officers, including a rookie cop just days into the job. the officer who was in critical condition today. officer nicholas wilt. 26 years of age. just graduated from the police academy on march 31st. i just swore him in and his family was there to witness his journey to become a police officer. he was struck. in the head. that officer tonight out of surgery and critical but in stable condition. the shock of the attack also felt at the highest levels of the state's
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government. one of the victims known to the mayor and governor, one of them was tommy elliott. a very good friend of mine. of the governor's tommy elliott helped me build my law career. help me become governor. gave me advice on being a good dad. he was an incredible friend. officials say the gunmen used an ar 15 style rifle in the attack. investigators are still trying to establish a motive. the governor paid tribute to those lost today. to honor those who have fallen and asked so many families grieve. i'm ordering our flags statewide. fly it. half staff. until friday. you know, our mendez joins us now live from louisville. omar. we were on tv together this morning , right after this happened several hours later. is it clear exactly what was going on in the bank when the shooting occurred.
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so at this point, it seems to have happened during one of the morning meetings at this bank, a coworker of the gunman was actually attending that meeting . virtually when she saw through her laptop, the gunmen burst into the conference room and start shooting to use her words . i witness people being murdered. i don't know how else to say that and all of this was happening, and just three minutes it took for officers to get to the scene on top of the four that were killed and nine others were hospitalized. three have been released three three or non critical, three are still in critical condition, including that police officer that had just graduated from the police academy. the hospital says that no one they've treated so far has died. but when you take a step back 100 days into this year in this country, we have already seen 146 mass shootings, according to the gun violence archives. so while this community figures out how to deal with this tragedy is a tragedy, there is no stranger to communities across this country
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and learn how abbvie could help you save we have this just in tonight in the fight over the abortion drug kristen and a federal judge's ruling friday to suspend fda approval of it a short time ago, the fifth circuit federal court of appeals gave plaintiffs a tuesday midnight deadline to respond to request to put that ruling on hold the decision by a trump appointed judge in amarillo, texas, would otherwise take effect. by week's end. it was quickly, followed by another federal judge's decision in washington state, this one requiring the government to keep mifepristone available in 17 states and the district of columbia. so yes, it's confusing and reaction to the test. texas ruling does cross party lines new york democratic congresswoman alexandria, cossio cortez and her south carolina republican colleague nancy mace are both calling on the biden ministrations simply disregarded something the white house today declined to do so. now it is
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before the fifth circuit court of appeals and whether on its own or along with the washington state ruling could soon be heading to the supreme court with us now is renowned court washer reporter, author and npr legal affairs correspondent nina totenberg. nina thanks so much for being with us. what do you see as the chances are that these conflicting rulings will end up at the supreme court? and when. the when is the critical question. i think they probably will end up at the supreme court . um the biden administration has already asked the fifth circuit to impose a stay to block a just judge. cosmetics ruling from going into from going into effect. and if that court which is a court that's heavily dominated by republican appointees, and half of those are trump appointees. backcourt would it would not surprise anybody if they don't grant to stay, and then certainly the
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biden administration would appeal to the supreme court and say at least block this for now and then tell us lately sorted out later on, or ah, it might be that the fifth circuit goes ahead and here's the case on an expedited basis. if they don't again, you've got everything in limbo. but if this is one of these very we messy cases, and it's right coming at the end of the supreme court term. when the justices are about to finish hearing oral arguments in cases so it gets even hairier. yet when the supreme court overturned roe vs wade justice alito majority opinion his opinion implied that overturning the president was somehow going to resolve many legal questions . doesn't appear to have happened here. did the justices really want to be right back in the middle of this? well, i'm sure they don't. but this shows you how how i think how little the majority in the dobbs case that overturned roe actually
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appreciated how this could go off and 10 15 20 different directions. justice lido said that that row had been egregiously wrong and that it had divided the country, and he seemed to assume that by overturning road that would change and of course, there are a million questions here. do people who live in one state where abortion is banned? can they travel to another state for an abortion? do people have access via the via the inter internet? to get access to abortion pills, and by the way abortion pills are now, um there early abortions, but they are the majority more than a majority of most of the abortions in the country today, so this has an enormous effect, and it's even beyond that, because the whole the whole authority of the fda to regulate drugs to decide what's safe and
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not safe to prescribe rules that's in the balance, too. the very way the fda does, its job could hang in the balance here. so is it as simple as looking at the makeup of the supreme court and saying, hey, this is the court that overturned roe versus wade. you know, they'll rule against any kind of abortion rights. isn't that simple? or could judges be in play here? i think they're judges in play here. i mean, i think clearly the chief justice. it is not would not be likely to go along with this and you know justice kavanaugh at the time of the oral argument in the case, said , look, states that don't want to have abortions they could ban abortions in the states that want to have abortions can have abortions. well this flies in the in the face of that, and i think that at least those two conservatives are in play and perhaps other members of the court's conservative majority. i think this is a pretty radical decision. and i wouldn't predict
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what the supreme court is going to do very interesting to see as this winds its way through. nina totenberg. thank you so much as always, my pleasure for more now on americans see this and how they might vote on him, joined now by cnn senior data reporter harry antin and cnn chief political correspondent dana bash. harry you've been looking at this. i mean, what are the potential political repercussions of what happened in texas on the republican party . i mean, look, americans overwhelmingly do not want this abortion pill band 70% are opposed to it over 80% of democrats are opposed to it. look at that over 50% of republicans are opposed to my goodness, gracious one was the last time you saw controversial issue in which a majority of republicans and democrats agreed . and, you know, john, we oftentimes look at polling and we say, okay, hey, is this necessarily reflected in the real world? well since roe v. wade was overturned in the middle of last year, we had half a dozen abortion ballot measures
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right and the pro abortion right side and every single one of them came out with the majority with the win, and we're not just talking about blue states like vermont and california. we're talking about red states right, like kentucky and kansas and montana. so the fact is, americans are on the side of pro abortion rights. and it's going to be very interesting to see going forward whether or not they like this decision. i don't believe that they will if it halts dana bash. we talked about this bipartisan call for the biden administration, the fda to simply disregard the ruling republican nancy mace of south carolina, said they should get ignored. and alexandria costlier . cortez i had the pleasure of watching your interview with her , where she also said, ignore the ruling. but does that align with the rule of law or how things work. it certainly goes up to the line of the rule of law. if you ask the people in the administration, which is
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really what is what matters here because they will help determine what the fda actually does. the hhs secretary was on state of the union with me yesterday, he said. everything is on the table when i put that question to him, and then a few hours later, a spokesperson made clear that what is on the table is not simply sort of shirking off something. that is going through the courts, so they're trying to play this very, very carefully. what is abundantly clear, though to everybody as they try to posture and position here on the politics of it is that this is not something that most republicans who are looking at the senate map, looking at the house map and looking at the white house in 2024 welcome. there is certainly a sort of a collective republican holding their republicans holding their breath and hoping that the supreme court sort of gets rid of this in the near future. i
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remember when you were out before the 2022 election, dana how many voters you were talking to, and i'm not talking about democratic voters. i'm talking about. independent voters are republican voters. who were saying to this has gone too far on abortion. right and even those who argued that they were in favor of the dobbs decision. most republicans said it is because they want it to be decided on a more local level. that shouldn't be a national decision that should be done by the states. well what does this federal decision do? it makes it it makes it potentially national , and it's so it's the opposite , even for those who fundamentally philosophically believe that no abortion should be allowed. the way that it is going to happen if it goes through in this case through the courts is anathema and it will be and anything. i just want to point out if i may. we're
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talking about this as it relates to abortion. it is medication used for importunate is also medication used by many, many women who suffer from a miscarriage and so to take it off the market. it will cause trauma to a lot of women when it comes to their fundamental health, especially after they're dealing with the trump of losing pregnancy. there are people for whom this is not. a question of politics is a question of health and well being. dana bash, harry and thank you so much to both of you. just ahead of deep dive on that huge pentagon leak of classified information, perhaps the biggest in most concerning since the edwards known affair, top former members of the military, fbi and national security establishment, join us next. with every generation subaru forester has been a leader in crash safety. working to undo the impact crash can have on your life. which has led
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morning, everyone we do begin with breaking news this morning. closed captioning brought to you by invent help. call 1 807 1. oh oh! oh two. oh, you have an invention idea, but don't know what to do. next call invent help today they can help you get started with your idea. call now . 807 100020. the pentagon today said, is this still trying to determine the quote, scope and scale of what may be the biggest exposure of classified sequences ? edward snowden, many of which are still visible online. the leaks include sensitive information on the war in ukraine, including how far the us has penetrated the russian defense ministry and the boardroom group militia information that potentially could compromise intelligence assets, including human sources. the leaks also revealed the level of spying done not just on foes but friends as well, including south korea and israel so far, despite a justice department investigation in an interagency effort announced by the pentagon over the weekend to
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assess the leaks impact, there are still a little information about who did it or why or how this information could be sitting in the open on social media for more than a month. perspective now from three key angles of the story, cnn senior law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe, a former fbi deputy director, cnn military analyst and retired lieutenant general, mark hertling and carrie cordero , former counsel to the us assistant attorney general for national security. she's also a senior fellow at the center for a new american security. and andrew, i want to start with you here. how does the fbi even go about an investigation like this ? it involves the defense department. it involves intelligence agencies, you know, where do you even start? well john, there are two things that the bureau does at the same time . when they get a referral like this. the first is to conduct a damage assessment. so that's the work that involves trying to identify this information trying to identify the organizations, the other intelligence agencies that are responsible for it and ultimately classified it to make
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sure those agencies get to review that material to see if there has been damaged two sources and methods. the second thing the bureau does and again, these things happen, uh, at the same time is to begin the search to find the person responsible for the leak. now, in this case, there's a lot of different directions. they're likely going there, probably starting by looking at those photographs to figure out everything they can from the photographs from things that may have been captured in the background of the photographs to the metadata that's always kind of attached to digital photographs. and then look at things like i p addresses that from which the photographs may have been posted to the internet. they'll also look at establishing a pool of people who they know would have had access to these documents at the respect of times. ah that are of concern. now those pools i can tell you from having been involved in many of these investigations are always about 10 times bigger than you think they'll be. and so that brings
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the task of trying to rule out anybody who may have had access to this material as being the potential leaker, and that is an effort that can take many, many resources over a long period of time. so general you get in here . you know how big is this possible pool? who would have access to these materials? also you know, in the short term, what do you think the most immediate national security impact is of this? john you know , i'll jump on what andrew just said about 10 times larger than we think it might be. there are some folks you wouldn't even consider that might have the ability to touch these documents . you know, some of those documents came from within the joint staff. i remember when i was a primary on the joint staff is the j seven. we would dispose of secret and top secret documents that we no longer needed inside of burn bags. those burn bags were transferred by individuals who carried them to the incinerator, so it's not just the people who are using
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the documents for establishing communication and situational awareness. it is the people who transport them to be destroyed so that pool really expand significantly, just like andrew said in terms of the assessment. this is going to be very difficult. and you know the fact that it appears today mentioned secretary austin learned of this on the sixth of april and there have been additional leaks since then tells me that when we're talking about the relevancy or the recency of these things being leak, could there be more ? might the individual who's leaking them have more that he can that he or she can put out on the internet or through photographs. those are the things that are very concerning right now. it's probably going a little bit dark, but also the fact that it it deals with activities that are going on now . the snowden leak had to do with cables and things from the
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state department and the defense department. these things are occurring now and it talks talks in many cases about ukraine about the capability for them to conduct operations. which is not a good thing. cordero. how important is motive? here and how central will that be to the justice department investigation, and ultimately, they hope their prosecution. well so i think, john, this is going to be a really substantial interagency investigation that has to go on, led by the justice department and the fbi, and one of the factors that they will look at is what the intent was of the individual or individuals who released this information. i do think john. it's really were at a very preliminary stage. and so one of the questions that i have is was this an individual with lawful access? to this information who then facilitated its unauthorized disclosure, and or as we say, leaked it or potentially, i would think one of the avenues of investigation
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will have to be whether or not this information was hacked, which which was an unauthorized access into systems. so those are the types of questions at this very preliminary stage that will have to take place. there's also a really, i think important. difference between our current environment in 2023 versus that which it was in this when the student disclosures happened that you mentioned at the top of the segment 10 years ago, and that is that we are currently in a online and digital information environment where investigators have to be looking at whether information and images are altered or false or not what they appear to be and that particular environment i think poses in a additional challenge to investigators for these types of disclosures. that is a different and new scenario that they will have to factor in very quickly. this stuff was out there for a while for several
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weeks before it seemed to catch the national attention. how could that be? it was circulated on these message boards. it's really bizarre, john. it's you know, it's kind of mitigates against the idea that this person was some sort of whistleblower who wanted to bring these things the public attention because they lingered out there for so long. um but the scary part is they you know, they were uploaded by someone. they are now in the possessions of many, many people who presumably have downloaded them onto their own devices, so it's essentially impossible to kind of put the toothpaste back in the tube. this stuff is out there. it'll be reappearing on sites for as long as you can imagine. it's a dangerous metaphor, but they just want to, you know, to stop the toothpaste from flowing at this point, because the leaks are still going on. andrew mccabe, general heartland. carrie cordero, thank you all so much. coming up. a convicted murderer could soon walk free after pressure from texas governor abbott and fox news details ahead. we got
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texas. what you got here tonight? don't let us march in the streets anymore, so i gotta practice some. some of our right . perry was an army sergeant working as a rideshare driver that summer and had just dropped off a passenger near a blm protest. prosecutors say perry ran a red light to turn into protesters on the street. read. instigating the confrontation. perry's lawyer says several people started beating on his car and foster motion for him to lower his window. foster was carrying an assault style rifle , which he was legally allowed to do. oh god. this police interrogation video at one point captured perry, saying he didn't want to give foster a chance to aim at him. perry grabbed his handgun, fired multiple times and killed foster, an air force veteran. perry claimed it was self defense, but he was charged with murder. prosecutors also pointed to texts and social media post suggesting perry was
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looking for a fight. perry wrote to someone he might kill a few people on my way to work. they are rioting outside my apartment complex. a texas jury rejected the self defense claim and found him guilty of murder. on friday , perry broke down when he heard the verdict. perry has become a celebrity cause in right wing media. fox news host tucker carlson is pressuring republican governor greg abbott issue apartment and it means that in the state of texas if you have the wrong politics, you're not allowed to defend yourself. and the next day, the texas governor announced he would swiftly moved to pardon period i watched my husband died in front of me. longtime partner whitney mitchell was with foster the night of the deadly encounter. she says his family is angered by the governor's announcement what the governor is saying. jane and vowing to pardon daniel perry. that has come as a complete shock and surprise to you. this has been a complete nightmare. i just thought it was
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disgusting. and i don't think that he is fully like read the case or know what's going on with it, and i honestly can't understand this decision like it's just mhm. it's just it's absolutely disgusting. governor abbott went on to say that texas has one of the strongest standard ground laws of self defense that cannot be nullified by a jury or a progressive district attorney that d. a in austin, jose garza called abbott's comments deeply troubling. do you think this is the governor, bowing to pressure from right wing media? by weighing in he has caused irreparable damage to our criminal justice system. i know that he has weakened the rule of law in the state of texas. i know he has endangered the public safety of our community. and at 11 jr joins me now from dallas. and how likely is it that daniel perry will actually be part and when will that final decision come well, you know,
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virtually every member of this pardons and paroles board has been appointed by governor abbott of the organization said today that his immediately launched an investigation to issue a recommendation on perry's potential pardon and in the state of texas. john the way it works is that the governor can't just issue a pardon directly. he has to he or she has to wait for the board of pardons and paroles to issue a recommendation and after that the governor can make their decision. but right now we don't have a timeline as to how long this will take john alright, ed lavandera. keep us posted. thank you so much. still ahead, ireland is preparing for a presidential homecoming as president biden is set to travel there tomorrow we will take a look at the impact of past presidential visits and the surprising connections our nation's leader have with that country. that's next. double check that pretty good. yes crying. are you tighten that?
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as vice president in 2016. binds great, great great grandfather was among the millions of people who left ireland in the 19th century during the potato famine . any has been touted as one of the most irish american presidents. cnn's dhoni. o'sullivan looked at other presidents with irish roots and their past presidential visits, and its findings may surprise you. i'm currently at probably the most highly regarded landmark in ireland. welcome to barack obama plaza. it's become a viral favorite on tiktok on the side of an irish motorway arrest stop named after president barack obama, ireland . my name is barack obama of the money goal. obama's. barack obama plaza was built here in the tiny village of moneygall, where obama's ancestors immigrated from in the 19th century. always dress up this much. obama visited the village
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in 2011. that makes you guys cousins. i want your nickname. he gave me the nickname henry. the eighth. henry healy is obama's distant cousin and is now a manager at the barack obama plaza. i think it definitely raises some eyebrows in the united states when they hear there's a rest stop at the side of a highway. named after an american president does be some shocking all the cardboard cutouts that we have here are phenomenally popular here with the enthusiasm that only irishman can muster ireland's love affair with us presidents began when president john f. kennedy visited his ancestral home here in new ross county, wexford in 1963. and you were sitting in the front row. i was about to say maybe 10 15 yards out there. mark minivans. dad was mayor of new rossa at the time and was to introduce kennedy to the crowd. can you hear me now? can you hear me?
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some of the microphone stopped working just as jfk arrived. microphones broke down just before he started so he was even more uptight at the microphones broke down, broke down when president kennedy was only over the coming along the street here in right trouble now, technical glitch was eventually resolved in the speech ended up going ahead. it took 115 years to make this trip. a trip which included a visit here, so this is the original farm yards. the president of the president's great grandfather, patrick kennedy, left for him. he actually left through that gate, the same geese famine when he went off to boston. like many irish americans, kennedy's great grandfather immigrated to united states during the irish potato famine think he decided to come back to europe and show that he was proud of his peasant roots. kennedy began a tradition of presidential visits to ireland. reagan visited in 1984 so many irish men and women from every walk of life played a role in
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creating the dream of america. interiors of this pub in reagan's ancestral village of bali. pooran were eventually shipped to california to the reagan presidential library. now perhaps the most irish of irish american president is about to visit the country and his cousins. the blue. it's here in ballymena county. mayo are getting ready to tell us how you're related to the president. first of all, so my dad is his third cousin. so his great great grandfather, edward blew it in the 18 sixties and he went to move to scranton girls. how does it feel to be related to the president? and it's very exciting? yeah president and have you met him before? yes twice. what did he say? chair? he's just he was just eating our chips. and when, when the fancy meals came out, he just wanted the chips and chicken nuggets stealing your chicken nuggets. yeah biden's ancestors the blue, it's and the finnegan's immigrated from counties, mayo and loud. your dad and joe biden
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are third cousins. yes but you seem to be the favorite cousin. i don't know. why was well, maybe it's just my personality, everybody. biden has visited ireland in the past and larissa blue. it has made multiple trips to the white house. but this would be the first time they will welcome him to ireland as president. we've struck up a great friendship since the first day that we met. you know his family are steeped now traditions. he you know, he talks about it all the time. he tells great stories of growing up and basically growing up in an irish household, even though obviously they were very much american. from accepting the presidential medal of freedom. you know, i can't let it come and go by without quoting an irish poet. to accepting the democratic party's nomination for president, the irish poet seamus heaney once wrote, always seems to have a line of irish poetry to hand but then once in a lifetime. the longed for tidal
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wave of justice can rise up and hope and history rhyme. he's just so proud of the irish roots like he's really problems. irish roots. um we have had the other presidents. this president is more important. i think talent than the rest of them. and before the president travels south to the republic of ireland to see his cousins. he'll come first here to belfast, northern ireland, tomorrow on the 25th anniversary of that historic peace agreement. the good friday agreement. there will be a lot of celebrations here for their 25th anniversary, but also a lot more work to do. there's still a lot of division here at the power sharing government that was the former power sharing government that was set up where catholics, protestants, unions and republicans share power here is not functioning at the moment, so he'll have of that, and then john. he will go south to the republic of ireland. where i guess if he's lucky, like obama, he might get a gas station named after him.
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