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weighs four tons, meaning it could only move at a slow walking pace. marrying the ancient and sacred with the modern. there's now a new emoji for the occasion crown that's based on st edward's crown, which king charles the third will be wearing for his coronation that comes up to £5 in weight. the gold carriages in crowns sit uncomfortably within the context of britain's cost of living crisis, which is why the palace has been keen to underscore that this will be a slim down coronation, with an emphasis on volunteering and giving back to the community. the anchor novel. oh, cnn, london. alright thanks for joining me. i'm christine romans, cnn this morning starts right now. it was good that. good morning, everyone. we're glad you're with us came fast. let's get started with five
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things to know for this. tuesday april the 11th louisville this morning morning the lives of five people murdered in a mass shooting at a bank. police say the gunman used to be an employee there. the tennessee three closer to being made whole. state representative justin jones, officially reinstated after being expelled last because colleague justin pearson basis of vote tomorrow to get his job back. federal appeals court weighing a decision on a widely used abortion pill, the doj has asked the court to stop a texas judge's ruling that would suspend the use of crestone also president biden departing for northern ireland this morning. he is going to be there tomorrow, 25 years since the good friday, of course, ended years of violence. and say hello to mayor taylor swift. the city of tampa is now given the singer the honorary title and a key to the city of ahead of her concert there this week. cnn this morning starts right now.
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another day, another mass shooting in america right after we got off the air yesterday, and it's just it's one of those moments where you're just waiting to see. you know what's next? what are the details near it? another shooting in the same city around the same time around the same time? it's just nuts, and something has to be. we say it every time. but let's hope this time it was just hoping and hoping and hoping, but we'll talk to senator chris murphy later in the show who keeps reintroducing this universal background check bill keeps trying keeps trying keeps trying . um and look one of the i mean one of the victims. 63 old tommy elliott was a good friend of governor andy bashir. and you just read about these people. another one juliana farm urges 45 years old, just posted on facebook, welcoming a new grandchild who is about to come. these are their lives. you know, everyone has a personal story. we're talking about like
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louisville ways said. well, there's a shooting here and there's a shooting there. i just sort of did a random search of our hometowns or just home states, louisiana. alabama minnesota and just you find similar stories almost in every single place that the incidences of gun violence, although random , very personal, and everyone has a connection, it's just crazy, right? and so this morning, the country is once again morning and reeling from another mass shooting. we're now learning that the gunman who killed five co workers at a bank in louisville, kentucky, recently found out he was going to be fired, a bank manager tells cnn. the employee opened up fire in a conference room during a morning meeting yesterday. can you imagine that going to work, and that happens, police say the shooter livestreamed this bloody rampage on social media before police officers killed him in a shootout, and investigators say a rookie police officer was shot in the head and is fighting for his life this morning in the hospital, he just graduated from the police academy. less than two weeks ago.
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that is just hours after the shooting, the louisville community began mourning the dead. this was a church service for josh barrack, a father of two. he was a senior vice president at the bank and a volunteer basketball coach for young kids at the church. adrien brody's live covering this for us in louisville this morning. what can you tell us? poppy that shooter killed five of the people. he worked with that father of two was the youngest among the deceased. the search for motive begins in louisville , kentucky, after police say a 25 year old bank employees shot his co workers, leaving at least five dead suspect shot at officers. we then returned fire
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and stop that threat. police shot and killed the gunman. connor sturgeon. investigators say he was still firing his ar 15 style rifle. when officers arrived, the shooter had worked at old national bank for more than a year, but a law enforcement source says sturgeon was recently told he would be fired. the sources. surgeon wrote a note to his parents and a friend indicating he was going to carry out a shooting at the bank. it's not clear when the note was found from my wife, panicking that she was locked in the vault. police say the shooter livestream the attack to instagram. it was also streamed to a monday morning bank meeting. rebecca bush, eddie simms, a manager at the bank, tells cnn. sims says she watched from her computer as her co workers were gunned down in the conference room. she says she didn't work directly with the alleged shooter, but knew him to be quote extremely intelligent, but the low key temperament swat
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teams raided the gunman's home monday afternoon as officials praised the quick action of first responders. it's got to be about them. and the heroic actions of everybody who responded one of the officers who ran into the gunfire was rookie cop nicholas wilt, who was shot in the head and is in critical condition, praying and supporting him. it was just a week and a half ago that i gave him along with the chief, his graduation diploma from the academy, one of the five victims of senior vice president at the bank was a close friend of the governor, tommy elliott helped me build my law career. help me become governor. gave me advice on being a good dad. and some of the officers who responded to the shooting also responded to another shooting. that happened around the same time less than two miles away from here, the interim chief when she addressed
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members of law enforcement, she thanked her officers for showing up and during that address, she said, if we don't do it, who will so much bravery displayed yesterday when i was on scene? i spoke with an officer. who said it was his father, who reminded him why he does what he does, and that's to help people running right into the danger. we are all praying for rookie cop nicholas will this morning and all those families, adrian, thank you. ahead in our seven o'clock hour, the mayor and interim police chief of louisville will join cnn this morning live looking forward to that to see what he has to say now to nashville were expelled. tennessee state lawmaker justin jones has now been reinstated. that was a traumatic moment. among many dramatic moments last night. 36 city council members voting unanimously monday to return jones to his seat after
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he was removed last week by republicans were protesting gun violence on the house floor. the democratic lawmaker was sworn in on the steps of the state capital surrounded by a crowd of supporters outside democrat justin pearson could also be reinstated tomorrow. so we look for forward tibet cnn's isabel russell is live for us in nashville with more this morning. good morning, isabelle . what is the reaction been to jones reinstatement? good morning to you. don. i think that nashville has spoken loud and clear by handing justin jones his seat back. and now nearly 70,000 people in his district have representation again in the statehouse. mr speaker. i want to welcome our newest member to the house chambers state representative justin jones. reinstated democrat justin jones walking back into the tennessee house of representatives to the sound of cheers. four days after being expelled by the state's
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republican majority, want to welcome democracy back to the people's house. in a unanimous vote, the nashville metropolitan council reappointing jones as an interim representative from nashville's house district, 52. monday, jones spoke from the steps of the capitol, thanking supporters calling for the resignation of tennessee speaker of the house today we're setting a resounding message that democracy will not be killed in the comfort of silence. there we send a clear message to speaker cameron sexton that the people will not allow his his crimes against democracy. that happened without challenge. republicans expelled jones and his colleague justin pearson. for violating rules of decorum during a protest last week on gun reform in the wake of the shooting at the covenant school in nashville last month. this is a sacred place. it belongs to everybody and literally start looking up into the gallery with a bullhorn . getting the protesters worked up into a frenzy. that is
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incumbent on us to say you've gone a step too far. sometimes rules have to be broken in order for the voices that have been marginalized and told that they are voiceless to be heard pearson. he says he's hopeful his vacant memphis district seat will also be addressed during a special meeting tomorrow. if it is the will of god and the people in shelby county for me to serve. i promised to continue to do so, and i'm going to do it. i believe with all of the people who continue to show up for us in this moment who are saying it's enough, and now is the time for us to create change in this state. and over memphis . political tensions have been rising with the chairman of the tennessee democratic party, claiming that they memphis and shelby county have faced political threats of losing state funding for key projects. should they reinstate justin pearson. done again. we will be watching. thank you. it's burrows. alice turning. it's very early in nashville, their central time. five o'clock, 5 10 next hour, we're gonna be joined by representative gloria johnson
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, who survived her expulsion vote. we're going to get her reaction to justin jones being reinstated. can't wait to see that. also this morning, we're tracking in development out of the white house as president, biden said to depart shortly for northern ireland, he's going to mark the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement. that's the peace deal that was brokered in part by the united states and helped bring an end. end to decades of sectarian violence, but ahead of the president's high profile visit. masked men were saying thrown mullet seen throwing molotov cocktails at police during a pro irish march on monday. cnn's nic robertson is live in belfast for us, nick . obviously anytime the president goes anywhere, there are heightened security concerns . you can see it on the ground days before he even gets there. he's set to leave this morning. what are you seeing on the ground? and what is it like in belfast right now? yeah i think there's a mood of expectation. the president's coming some streets lockdown already there. an additional 300 police officers have come over from mainland uk just in the past few
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weeks. the terror threat level here was raised from substantial to severe meaning an attack went from being likely to being highly likely, and i think the president's message here is going to be about moving forward that good friday peace agreement . one of the signature things that it did was not just bring peace it brought into place a power sharing government, but that power sharing government is stalled over disagreements about brexit. but of course underlying brexit. it's all about business . so when the president does this ribbon cutting ceremony at the university here in the center of belfast, a huge investment there in the future potential education and the needs of the business community here that will be, i think underscoring his message that. develop business, improve the economy and then all those kids that we saw yesterday, throwing those petrol bombs in those economically deprived areas. those whole communities get an uplift. that's the success of business and that would be
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moving the situation here forward and it's his first visit there as president since taking office, nick robertson will stay with you for all the developments. thank you. huge legal battle over abortion and medication. abortions specifically continues, women across the nation could lose access. just days from now. the justice department is now stepping in. what do o you get from the mororgan stanley client experience. listeningng. more tn talking. and the personalized plan to guide you through a changing world. yes. hey, man. could save hureds for safe driving witliberty mutual because mise your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. who we gotta go again for what you need. liberty liberty, liberty outfitter is a better way to remodel your tub. precise measuring means the perfect fit. bath fitter tub
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abortion pill is now in the hands of a federal appeals court in the fifth circuit. just yesterday, the department of justice asked that court to pause a texas judge's ruling that would suspend the fda approval of the pill effectively banning it nationwide. the maker of medford, kristen also filed a similar request to the fifth circuit. it calls for allowing people to continue using this drug while this appeals process plays out if the appeals court does not stay, the texas ruling this all happens friday at midnight, let's bring in cnn supreme court reporter oriente bogart and good morning to you. okay so i thought it was interesting in the appeal is they also put forward doctors to talk about the adverse impact on their patients. because, remember, this is not just a pill used for abortion. this is a pill used for, um miscarriages , women who are enduring the physical and emotional pain of a miscarriage. also use this to complete the process about a million women a year go through miscarriages, so these doctors were part of it as well. right
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that's what's interesting. here is its healthcare workers and also the drugmaker's. they came in here and said, basically that this judge this lower court judge was trying to act like a doctor, and he rejected decades and decades of this safety recommendations. this drug has been on the market for some 20 years, and one of the doctors actually filed this sworn declaration with the court and here is what she said. she said restricted access to this safe therapeutic threatens the health of real people. people who are mothers, sisters, daughters, wives and friends of our country , but also poppy. the drugmaker's themselves are weighing in because they think that this lower court decision actually might destabilize how all drugs are regulated. that is what they're worried about, and it's very rare to see them all
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come together. so you've got the healthcare workers. you've got the doctors and you've got this . the drug companies to all very concerned and all on this very tight timeline. yeah just a few days until this would take effect friday. midnight around. thank you for the reporting very much. thanks straight ahead, the latest on how the pentagon is investigating the scope and scale behind the classified documents leak plus scorched earth. we are live on the ground and ukraine with a new breakdown of russia's tactics and eastern ukraine. that's next. age is just a number and mine's unlisted boost high protein 20 g of prorotein for muscle health versus 16 g and ensure high protein boost high protein now available in cinnabon. bakery inspired flavor learn more boost .com/ t v.
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that there have been some questions about what information in here is accurate. we've heard that from officials who seem very frustrated, but i was so struck by the idea that they can't even say you know whether or not this is going to get worse. whether or not this leak has actually been contained at this point. that is the big question. katelyn polantz grappling right now. just how big is this leak? they simply do not know at this point. that is part of what they're investigating, and they have stood up and interagency effort to do a damage assessment as well as to investigate whether there are any more classified documents out there that they simply have not recovered yet. so just to remind viewers these documents have been sitting online. on this discord server for at least a month and the secretary of defense was not actually briefed on their existence until just last thursday, but a senior pentagon official who briefed reporters yesterday said that they are really it's all hands on deck at this point to try to figure out just how bad this leak is, and whether it could jeopardize sensitive sources and methods. here's what he said. the
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department of defense is working around the clock to look at the scope and scale of the distribution. be assessed impact and our mitigation measures were still investigating how this happened, as well as the scope of the issue. now we know, according to our sources that many of these documents, if not all of them do appear authentic , but some of them are at least one i should say does appear to have been altered, and that is a document that lists russian and ukrainian casualties in the war in ukraine, an altered document appears to show those russian casualties has been a lot lower than what the pentagon had. is actually assessed. but by and large, the department of defense as well as the justice department, which is investigating this, as a criminal matter do seem to think that these are real and that they could pose a serious risk to national security. caitlin the trove of information and just how recent it is a stunning natasha bertrand, keep us updated on what you learned from the pentagon. ukrainian commander says russian forces have switched their tactics to a
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scorched earth policy on the eastern front. watch this. the commander says russia is destroying buildings and defensive positions with airstrikes and artillery fire residents in mahmoud, a city which has already been reduced to ruin are now taking shelter in nearby chassis vr cnn's nick paton walsh joins us now live from central ukraine with more on this good morning to you, nick. the question is how much a back moved to russians have control over but they say, and i say they separatist leader who visited over the weekend posted a video in which he claimed 75% was under russian control. that may not be massively distant from the truth, but we're talking percentage fluctuations over the past months. the street by street fighting has occurred now. certainly russia has more than it would probably a month ago. absolutely they are certainly fighting hard for the central parts of that city. the
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railway station, the central square as well. well that's where some of those videos over the weekend were posted from. but those scorch earth tactics are leaving a city of questionable strategic value, but now massive symbolic value with very little left of it, frankly to conquer, and that brings to mind the essential question about what russia's tactics really are, if they're seeking in there warped view to save ukrainian citizens from the government here, then how they destroying so much of the country. they're claiming to be here to try and rescue and also to study. tg clea. what do they have left to try and defend or even get covered in if so much of these towns they're trying to take our in fact destroyed. but there are still ukrainian forces in the west, holding on quite persistently, frankly, this fight for back moved, as i say of questionable strategic value , becoming more of a sideshow as the noise grows around ukraine's counter offensive long planned by their allies with the assistance of allies in the west , us and nato, a lot of
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equipment coming in those leaks. natasha we're talking about frankly shocking to me to see so much potentially very pertinent information emerged at the exact time when people are trying to work out which side knows what about the others preparation. this offensive decisive moment, certainly and one. i think that's being shaken in the days , possibly ahead of its beginning by this leak, don walls. thank you very much. appreciate it. well part homecoming part diplomacy and just a few hours, president biden will fly to his ancestral homeland in our donie o. sullivan is live in belfast. i don't eat hay papi. yes we're live here in belfast, northern ireland, ahead of the president's visit here that's coming up next after the break. sunday night. we're trying something a little different one whole story. what's startling is the sheer number of migrants on
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irish, but i'm not stupid. i married dominic cooper's daughter. and he used to have an expression, he said. if you're lucky enough to be irish, you're lucky enough. every st patrick's day, every irishman goes out to find another irishman to make a speech to well, that's why i'm here. it's a lot of green in that audience. did you see that so much green? i'm wearing green today. i don't know if any u s president has ever quoted irish poets as much inspiring. biden does, but you can basically bet on it every time he speaks at the white house, they call him president obama didn massive. okay that was really good, actually, all right, as we are saying president biden's irish heritage is no secret in just a couple hours. he is going to leave the white house to visit his ancestral home. the
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president's great, great great grandfather left ireland for the united states back in the 19th century after the potato famine , now his distant cousin who actually still lives. in the family's hometown, says the community is pulling out all the steps ahead of the president's visit. cnn's own irishman donie o. sullivan is live in belfast in northern ireland. i mean, this is kind of amazing to see that you're on this trip you're welcoming, you know. biden who's known as the most irish president since jfk, um what's it like? what's it like on the ground so far? how are people preparing for his him to come? it's been a lot of fun, kaylin. i don't know what you're saying that this white house job is so difficult, um, 60 years since president it's been 60 years since president kennedy came to ireland and started a tradition of american presidents coming here to track their irish heritage, and ireland has some unusual ways of honoring us presidents have a look. i'm
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currently at probably the most highly regarded landmark in ireland. welcome to barack obama plaza. it's become a viral favorite on tiktok on the side of an irish motorway arrest stop named after president barack obama, ireland. my name is barack obama of the money goal. obama's. barack obama plaza was built here in the tiny village of moneygall, where obama's ancestors immigrated from in the 19th century. always dress up this much. obama visited the village in 2011. that makes you guys cousins? yeah your nickname you gave me the nickname henry. the eighth. henry healy is obama's distant cousin and is now a manager at the barack obama plaza. i think it definitely raises some eyebrows in the united states when they hear there's a rest stop at the
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side of a highway. named after an american president does some shock and all the cardboard cutouts that we have here are phenomenally popular here with the enthusiasm that only irishman can muster love affair with us presidents began when president john f. kennedy visited his ancestral home here in new ross county, wexford in 1963. and you were sitting in the front row was about to say, maybe 10 15 yards out there. mark minions. dad was mayor of new rossa at the time and was to introduce kennedy to the crowd. can you hear me now? can you hear me? some of the microphone stopped working just as jfk arrived. microphones broke down just before he started so he was even more uptight at the microphones broke down, broke down when president kennedy was only over the coming along the street here in right trouble now , technical glitch was eventually resolved in the speech ended up going ahead 115 years to make this trip. a trip
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which included a visit here, so this is the original farmyard. the president of the president's great grandfather, patrick kennedy, left from he actually left through that gate, the same geese famine when he went off to boston. many irish americans, kennedy's great grandfather immigrated to united states during the irish potato famine think he decided to come back to europe and show that he was proud of his peasant roots. kennedy began a tradition of presidential visits to ireland. reagan visited in 1984 so many irish men and women from every walk of life played a role in creating the dream of america. interiors of this pub in reagan's ancestral village of bali. pooran were eventually shipped to california to the reagan presidential library. now perhaps the most irish of irish american president is about to visit the country and his cousins. the blue. it's here in ballymena county. mayo are getting ready to tell us how you're related to the president.
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first of all, so my dad is his third cousin. so his great great grandfather, edward blew it in the 18 sixties, and he went to move to scranton girls. how does it feel to be related to the president? and it's very exciting? yeah president, have you met him before? yes twice. what did he say? chair? he's just he was just eating our chips. and when, when the fancy meals came out, he just wanted the chips and chicken nuggets stealing your chicken nuggets. yeah biden's ancestors the blue, it's and the finnegan's immigrated from counties, mayo and loud. your dad and joe biden are third cousins. yes but you seem to be the favorite cousin. i don't know. why was well, maybe it's just my personality. everybody biden has visited ireland in the past and larissa blue. it has made multiple trips to the white house. but this would be the first time they will welcome him to ireland as president. we've struck up a
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great friendship since the first day that we met his family were steeped in irish traditions. he you know, he talks about it all the time. as he tells great stories of growing up and basically growing up in an irish household, even though obviously there are very much american. from accepting the presidential medal of freedom. you know, i can't let a comment go by without quoting an irish poet. to accepting the democratic party's nomination for president , the irish poet seamus heaney once wrote, biden always seems to have a line of irish poetry to hand but then once in a lifetime. the longed for tidal wave of justice can rise up and hope and history rhyme. he's just so proud of the irish roots really problems. irish roots. um yes, we have had the other presidents. this president is more important than the rest of them. now before president biden travels south to the republic of
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ireland. he's going to land here this evening in northern ireland on the 25th anniversary of the good friday peace agreement, which was a huge accomplishment , but it is still quite an uneasy peace here. there is still a lot of tension and the power sharing government that former government that was set up under that. agreement currently isn't functioning. but after that, he'll be here bit of today and tomorrow and then we'll move south to see his cousins and you start there in that piece, and i guess if he's lucky guys, if he's like obama, the irish might name arrest up after him. yeah well c dhoni a trip with major political but also personal significance. thank you so much, tony. no stealing of chicken nuggets. thank you don't appreciate it. so it may be rare and unheard of. but what's playing out in tennessee happens more often and closer to home than you might think. next resuming out and taking a look at super majorities in state houses
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story with anderson cooper premieres sunday at eight on cnn. today we're setting a resounding message that democracy will not be killed in the comfort of silence. was reinstated tennessee state. rep justin jones, addressing supporters outside the state capitol in nashville, and fellow democratic lawmaker justin pearson were removed from their seats last week in the state legislature by the republican majority for participating in a gun reform protest in the house chamber accused of breaking decorum. let's step back. how did we get here in the first place? our next guest says. it's emblematic of what's happening in a lot of state houses across the country. joining us now. david pepper, the author. of laboratories of autocracy. a wake up call from behind the lines, also the former chairman of the ohio democratic party, david, it's good to be with you. i think you know, i've loved your book for a no spin out for a year and a half two years, but i think what's happened in
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tennessee shines a light on what you write, the recently wrote. this book is wake up america. you're not paying attention to what's happening in states. you're talking too much and focusing on d. c what do you make of tennessee? big picture? yeah, but yeah, it's absolutely true. i mean the front line of the attack on democracy in this country are the statehouses like tennessee's, like ohio is like florida's for a lot of regions. no one's paying attention. most people have no idea who the state reps are there, jerry mannered to a hilt, so there's almost no choice or democracy in these places. you know, for example. that the tennessee republican majority that voted those two out last week more than half of them didn't even face a contested election last november, they ignore laws in ohio, they violate the constitution to gerrymander their own districts if we saw in another country, all the things that these state houses were doing here, we would literally say you're losing your democracy, but because it happens here, we really don't pay attention to it. we also get
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really blinded by washington. there are hundreds of people just like marjorie taylor green in office in the state houses, but they're not just on twitter . they're not just talking like she and jorge santos. are there actually passing laws every week attacking democracy, so we really have to focus on the statehouses. bring some light to them, and more importantly than that brings some accountability to all these people who are behaving in ways that should counter democracy. in its most basic sense. you make a very good point. when you talk about what happens often happens in silos, and it doesn't get the media attention is what's happening in congress. i think that's very important. i want to show you what happened? this is in the florida state houses. a committee debated a bill that would make it a misdemeanor for people to use certain bathrooms that don't align with their sex at birth. listen this is a republican lawmaker, making these comments that are deemed offensive and transphobic watch this. and lord, rebuke you satan and all of your demons and all
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of your imps will come and prosper parade before us. that's right. i called you demons and imps. so he is calling people names. purge artist. he did later apologize. but is there a political incentive to using rhetoric like that? yeah, once you realize like that tennessee state house that most of these quote unquote elected officials are in districts they can never lose. once you see that there's no accountability at all. at the general election level. every incentive these lawmakers faces to be an extremist. you would have done worse as a republican in a gerrymandered district last week to vote with democrats not to expunge those lawmakers. that's actually a risk for you to lose your office, but you get ahead by being an extremist. so in the states that are locked up through gerrymandering and voter suppression and uncontained. tested races. what you see is
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all the incentives aligned for the worst behavior, which is why we see this downward spiral towards extremism against democracy and pushing forward bills that are deeply unpopular. that's another really important point here. paul show us that tennessee and support the very common sense reforms. those protesters and those legislators who were kicked out support. so much of this activity done by these right wing legislators legislate chores are done against the majority will of the citizens of their states. so these are institutions that are locked up and they're advancing an extreme agenda, ignoring the people. they're very states are in all of this happens once you have a world like the state houses become zero accountability because of districts these people that can't lose david how much of this has to do with local media and the fact that it is shrinking? on what's like a daily basis. my home state of alabama. the three major papers aren't publishing. this happened recently, in the way that they were. how much is that have to
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do with this? where local reporters don't have a platform and the resources to report on things like this. it's a massive contributor. the average statehouse has three reporters covering it and the local and that's sort of the larger statehouse paper papers with statehouse bureaus. the local papers that serve smaller towns are just dying. we know that and those were the papers that would have covered. here's what your local state rep did or has been doing. you add those two things up in these places are largely anonymous. no one knows who their state reps are. they don't know what the state budget does. they don't know how that new law impacts them. and so it's really dangerous whenever you have a whole lot of power. in total anonymity and that's what the state has had become. so the shrinking of local media not again. the big papers have statehouse bureaus, but especially the small papers that would have given you coverage of that legislator from your district. those combined to be a real problem. throw into that
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the fact that a whole lot of these people literally don't face a contested election in november, like the ones in tennessee. that means that no one ever covers these people. they're not even an election. there's no one knocking on doors , saying what they've done that that anonymity really creates a problem that that you know, by the way, if your goal in life is to get some really bad things done. then a statehouse turns out to be the perfect place to do it because no one's paying attention. go to the statehouse. you'll get it done. go to washington. you guys will cover it. papers will cover it. so if you want to get bad stuff done, you go to the places that no one is covering. so yes, it's a big part of the problem. david pepper pleasure having you on you. laboratories of great reading your point about the media. so local media so spot on this morning, the state department is declaring that the wall street journal reporter evan garcia, vic herskovitz is being wrongfully detained in
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good, you feel good. the number one most loved thinking up. cnn news central today at nine eastern closed captioning brought to you by garlic cholesterols natural enemy. my blood pressure is borderline garlic. healthy blood pressure formula helps maintain healthy blood pressure with a custom blend of ingredients. i'm taking charge with garlic. so we have some major updates in the case of detained journalists, evan herskovits, russia is still denying the us counselor access to the wall street journal reporter violation of international law, and the state department is also formally declaring herskovits wrongfully detained nearly two weeks after his arrest. he was detained last month on a reporting trip and charged with espionage charges. a us government and the wall street journal denies we're joining us now is wall street journals. bureau chief washington bureau chief paul beckett. he has been working with evans family, the wall
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street journal attorneys and the u. s government to get even released. we thank you for joining us this morning. appreciate it so much good morning to you. so what additional resources are now? your disposal with the u. s now classifying this as him as wrongfully detained. the wrongful detention designation essentially makes him a hostage of a foreign government. up until this point, it was an issue for consular affairs as with any distressed american abroad, in this case, it will now make him a hostage, and it gives the u. s ability to negotiate foreign secure. his release allows the state department to work more closely with congress. to where it was private parties and necessary and expands the range of options that can bring him home. i want to ask you about something just yesterday when this news broke. the dow jones ceo al marla tour said. this about keeping it in the news and breaking the news. he was at an event last night. i want to play this and then get your response. here it is. it
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was so this is a punch in the face of free press. and so what can you do is keep on focused being focused on this focus on on evans release, but also keep voicing your support. evan himself has gotten word of someone to support that has been offered and is thankful for that , as we have heard from from from our lawyers, his lawyers and so this matters for him. it matters for his family, and it matters for media. i wonder how much that will help. just keeping it in the news. i know i'm on the website and on the app. if you go there, his story is front and center and you have to scroll by it. same thing. you're keeping it on the cover of the paper. you must keep this in the news so that it doesn't pass. how much is all of this help? this deeming it him wrongfully detained and keeping it in the news. as the dow jones ceo said that we've been extremely grateful for the support of journalistic
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colleagues was in the u. s and around the world. it's for us. as colleagues of evans. it's shed some light on our provided some light in a very dark situation. i think it's very important to maintain awareness of his case because we know in previous cases this can go on for quite a long time. we're obviously very hopeful that he can come back a lot sooner than that. but we have to brace for long term and raising awareness of his plight also raises the fact that this is a attack on the free press. evan was a one of a small number of reporters in russia covering a vitally important story, and this is what happens, the government nabbed him on bogus charges, and he's now sitting in a solitary confinement in moscow jail. we had his friend peter sauer, who's a fellow journalist with the guardian on last last week, and i was so struck appalled by what he said. you know, he described evan as sort of an all american kid, but we know who
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was born to parents who fled russia and then he said he thought it was his duty to keep reporting. but now i think it's our duty to really let the world know what's going on with evans conditions. it's striking sort of the full circle for his family. here and i know you've been speaking to them. i have another incredibly stoic but incredibly disturbed. obviously they were jewish immigrants from the soviet union. they came, evan was born and grew up in new jersey. his parents now live in philadelphia, and it was there. heritage and evans heritage that really attracted him to russia. he speaks excellent russian as a result, and he wanted to tell russia's story to the world and then unfortunately, he has become the story of how appallingly russia treats journalists. what do we know about his condition? very little. it's completely opaque process. we've had lawyers in to see him a

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