russia and then he said he thought it was his duty to keep reporting. but now i think it's our duty to really let the world know what's going on with evans conditions. it's striking sort of the full circle for his family. here and i know you've been speaking to them. i have another incredibly stoic but incredibly disturbed. obviously they were jewish immigrants from the soviet union. they came, evan was born and grew up in new jersey. his parents now live in philadelphia, and it was there. heritage and evans heritage that really attracted him to russia. he speaks excellent russian as a result, and he wanted to tell russia's story to the world and then unfortunately, he has become the story of how appallingly russia treats journalists. what do we know about his condition? very little. it's completely opaque process. we've had lawyers in to see him a couple of times have

been hired by the wall street journal. ah the russian government, despite assurances that they would provide this have not provided him any access to any u. s embassy staff in moscow which, as you noted earlier as a flagrant violation of international law, so everything we know about evan and media reports. we're getting from our lawyers as he's in decent health is a very optimistic very curious young reporters, so you know, so far so good under the circumstances just emphasized. the circumstances are he's in solitary confinement in a russian security services prison with no access to any american government official and in russia, defying international law with their actions. paul beckett, thank you. we are all standing with all of you. thanks very much very much. appreciate it. of course, cnn this morning continues right now. 25 year old gunman opened fire inside the

bank, killing five people and injuring at least eight others. police revealing the shooter was an employee at the bank and live streamed the attack call from my wife panicking, but she was locked in the vault, but there was an active shooter in the building should not continue to happen. tennessee two is down to one. today. we're setting a resounding message that democracy will not be killed in the comfort of silence. officials in nashville voted to reinstate justin jones, one of the two lawmakers expelled from the statehouse last week. my message to the young people here in america is that if your voice is not matter, they would not be trying so hard to silence. the doj. asked what appeals court frees the judge's order, which will make mr frist own unavailable nationwide this friday. we are ready to fight. this is going to be a long fight. we understand this. we stand by fda approval to continue to roll up our sleeves and be activated and he has every tool at our disposal to protect these fundamental rights. u s officials scrambling

to find responsible for leaking highly sensitive documents pentagon has already taken some steps to tighten the flow of such sensitive information. we don't know who's behind this. we don't know what the motive is. we don't know what else might be out there. yesterday was you know was eastern first guest tonight also rose from the dead. jeremy renner is here. look up. first thing i ever thought about my first conscious thought was like holy hell counters freed up for the rest of the year. if there was any question as to who the toughest avenger was that settled now, right, scarlett daddy? and good morning, everyone glad jeremy renner is okay. we'll get to that in a moment, but we're fairly new show five months in and how many of these shootings have lee covered many just way too many and the folks in louisville and around the country everyone's paying attention, but just dealing with this rash of gun

violence that happens. we're going to be following all of that. because this morning we're learning more about the gunman who killed those five co workers at a bank in louisville, kentucky, was recently notified that he was going to be fired watch. so this is eyewitness video that you're looking at a police rushing to the scene as gunfire was ringing out there. a law enforcement sources tell cnn that the shooter wrote a note to his parents and a friend indicating that he was going to open fire in the bank. but it is unclear if they saw it before that mass shooting. the bank manager says that the shooter attacked his coworkers during a morning meeting in a conference room. police say that he live streamed his bloody rampage on social media before police officers killed him in a shootout and we're told a rookie officer who was shot in the head and is in critical condition now he graduated from the police academy less than two weeks ago.

as it is usually in these situations. the community is heartbroken. they're mourning the victims. this is a church service for josh barrack, a father of two he was a senior vice president at the bank and a volunteer basketball coach for young children at the church. and joining us now is the louisville mayor craig greenberg and the interim police chief. jacqueline gwyn. villarroel thank you so much both for being here. i can't even imagine what the last 24 hours have been like. for both of you may or can i just can i start with you and just everyone wants to know how how the community is doing. how's everyone doing that? you've spoken to our city is heartbroken, heartbroken for the loss of friends and loved ones. we're thankful, thankful for the officers that responded bravely and so quickly. address this

situation in a professional and brave manner. we're thankful to the doctors and nurses of the university of louisville hospital. who have saved lives and continue to save lives and working to save the life of officer will, too. you just mentioned was one of the heroic responders yesterday, but we're also tired. we're tired of acts of violence of evil acts of gun violence. and so in the hours and days ahead. we're going to come together and support each other and love each other and give each other strength for healing, but also for taking action to continue to do everything possible. to reduce the amount of gun violence that's plaguing our city that's plaguing our country. chief. i know you had just said yes, sir. you just sworn in officer will not that long ago after he graduated from the police academy, i think it was 11 or 12 days ago. what do we know about how he's doing this morning? yes

we have some positive news that was provided to us on yesterday evening that officer what was still in critical condition, but he's stable. but he's looking better. and so we're hopeful and continue to pray. and we just think you know everybody for all of the thoughts that have been sent our way as we deal with this tragedy that took place on yesterday and so and for all of the other victims that lost their lives, senselessly and those are injured, so we just really appreciate the community for really just reaching out and pouring out to us as we navigate this uncertain waters. absolutely and we're praying for him to hear it. cnn. i want you to know that when it comes to the investigation yesterday, you said you only wanted to use the shooter's name once, chief do we know anything else about how he obtained the gun that was used in yesterday's shooting? so we're doing, of course, a thorough investigation at this

time and so from our understanding and again, we'll have a little bit more details later on, but he recently purchased that weapon that was used on yesterday. and so, but again, we'll have some better and more thorough details provided to the community and to everyone because you need to know we want to make sure that we provide detailed and accurate information. as we navigate this again this tragedy on yesterday we know a swat team went to his house has a search warrant been executed any world that you can speak about this morning? there was a search warrant and that was taking place on yesterday at his home. that's what i'm able to reveal right now at this time , and so we're hoping that that items that were recovered. that will reveal why this happened shouldn't have happened. but why this happened on yesterday and so all of that information will be available, okay? and we'll wait. we'll wait to hear more

from that. i know you want it to be as accurate as possible. so i totally understand that. what about the note because we were told that he had left a note basically declaring his intentions with this bank. do we know who found that or if they found it before the shooting happened or anything on that chief. again again. we're still in the preliminary stages of everything but making sure that we're connecting everything appropriately. we will actually reveal that information. but i want to make sure that i don't misspeak because the public and the families they need to make sure that i get it right. and that way is that apartment, make sure that we get it right and so that accurate information will be forthcoming. we appreciate that as well. obviously, we want it to be all accurate information that's out there. mayor we look at this. it wasn't just this shooting at the bank yesterday, there was another one that was only a short distance away from where this bank happened. you yourself and the survivor of a workplace shooting. that happened just last year. you have this uniquely american. you've been

disturbing experience and what can you say to the other survivors about your own experience with this? take time with loved ones. except the support and love that others are giving you. encouraged i actually yesterday, the local ceo of the bank is a friend of mine. i've heard conflicting reports earlier in the morning about whether he had survived or not now and as i was leaving the hospital yesterday. i turned a corner. and ran into him and saw him there alive. and i exchanged hugs and we exchanged. let him know that we now share something unfortunate and common to have both survived. a horrible workplace shooting. encouraged him. to see a therapist encourage everyone that was involved in survived, even if they were physically unharmed. still impactful. and to talk to others talk to professionals. to

focus on yourself. your physical and mental well being. in the days and weeks ahead to recover and to be able to move on. i think that's important because these acts of violence impacts so many people those who were killed those who were injured. those who were there and survived, also impacted as well as their families and loved ones . and so we are praying and here to support everyone impacted yesterday. um, by the tragic acts of gun violence and every day that's what our community stands for and that's what we'll continue to do. tommy elliot. he was a friend of yours too. what do you what do you want people to know about him this morning. tommy was a great man. he was a great friend. he is the definition of loyalty. he was the definition of friendship. he was a close friend of governor

bashir's myself and so many around the city. and he will be missed. as i know. will the other. for victims who were employees at old national bank. i did not know them personally, like i knew tommy. but the stories that i've heard about them they were wonderful people as well. and whether it was the victims yesterday here. or whether it's the victim just a few blocks west of here that was also killed in a targeted act of gun violence or that are killed anywhere in louisville, our country. we must work together to end this plague of gun violence on our country. enough. mayor greenburgh police chief gwen villarroel. i know you two are just it's been an intense 24 hours. we're really grateful for your time this morning chief will look forward to your update on the latest on the investigation later, thank you very much. thank you. thank you. word enough says it all.

katelyn polantz you for that the gun violence archives says there have been more at least 161 146 rather mass shooting so far in the united states this year, it's only april, right. we're only four months in more than 200 people have been killed and hundreds more injured by guns in this country again this year, and this means that more americans are experiencing gun related violence as a victim, family or victim, family of victim or witness. the new survey by kaiser family foundation shows one in five adults, so that's 20% of american adults say they have been threatened with a gun at some point in their life. cnn chief medical correspondent dr sanjay gupta joins us now there's so much stunning, but let's start with the headlines out of this survey. this. this gives you a real sort of snapshot into the psyche of the united states right now, when it comes to guns and some of the numbers you just mentioned there, but about 50,000 people die of gun violence every year,

about half suicides, half homicides and the numbers have been going up. they went up considerably over the past few years. that's one of the concerns but just in terms of the daily worry how much people worry about this on a regular basis how many people have been affected by this directly? that's what the survey really tried to get out. and as you mentioned if you look at adults, specifically the experience with gun related incidents 17% have witnessed about one in five have witnessed someone gets shot. close to the same number little bit higher, have had family members who have been killed by a gun again either homicide or suicide. 21% have been threatened with a gun. you look at these numbers. i mean, they're pretty staggering and keep in mind as you as you sort of. think about this. that gun violence is now the leading cause of death among children and teens that surpassed car accidents over the last couple of years. and then if you ask this question, how often do people fear this? how how big a deal is it in their in their

sort of daily lives, which you come to find is that the numbers again have been increasing. but 40% worry about this sometimes 10% worry about it almost every day. and 8% worry about it every day thinking about this more and more so the numbers have been increasing overall and america's perceptions of that have followed suit as well. it's interesting the number of teens who just the percentage that it is skyrocket justin's 20 leading cause of death for kids and teenagers more than car accidents. that's insanity. another thing that struck me is that 41% of adults who live in a household with a gun, sanjay, and that's about three quarters of them said that the gun is stored in a way that bucks really common safety practices. talk about that. yeah. yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna show you some of these numbers, and i'm going to preface by saying this. it's been hard to collect this sort of data in many places. you can't even ask about guns in the

household. you can't ask. if a gun is present. you can't ask how the gun is stored, so it's hard to get this sort of data. this was based on a survey again by the kaiser family foundation. they found that the way the gund loaded. that's not how they should be stored. 44% stored unlocked. and 52% stored in the same location as ammunition that that's one of the big concerns here is that, you know more houses have guns than before. the numbers have been going up and how they are stored potentially being sources of danger again, especially for young people that has that has gone up as well. so that's that's one of the concerns here as we try and figure out solutions with regard to guns. simply addressing how they are stored. doing it as safely as possible is one of the things that survey focused on and it's like the number one thing you learn when it comes to going spitters such as popular just noting there the fact that it is the leading killer of children here in america. what is this survey revealed to you? what stood out about just broadly?

what is happening to children here in the united states? you know, one of the things caitlin that stood out and sort of in this report. i'm going to show you some of the numbers but about 20% about one in five parents. nowadays they have considered moving their kids out of their current school because of the concerns about den violence, where exactly, they would move. that's a little less clear. but that's how big a problem this is. how big a concern when you talk to parents specifically about this, 38% said. they worry about it sometimes 13. almost every day and 12% worry about this every day if you have children younger than 18 in your house right now , about a quarter of you think about this almost all the time. which is against staggering. this wasn't something that you know, really registered as much certainly a decade ago, even a few years ago, but these numbers have been increasing and not just the numbers of people who are dying by gun violence close to 50,000 year, but the toll now on the american psyche, we

haven't really gotten a glimpse of that in the past. and the question now that parents are asking, but they sleepovers are going over to other people's homes is their gun in the house. that didn't happen when i was a kid? no one ever asked if there was a gun in the house we just say, can i go sleep at such and such as house where sleepover yes or no? you know. yeah sanjay. thank you so much. you got it. thank you. move on now and talk about former president trump has filed a long shot appeal to stop the judge's order for former vice president mike pence to testify before the grand jury and the january 6th investigation, according to a source familiar with the case. trump argues his conversations with pens are protected by executive privilege. it is important to note that trump has already lost several attempts to block other top officials from testifying. cnn's senior crime and justice reporter is katelyn polantz. she is live in washington with more caitlin morning another appeal to keep someone quiet. any chance that this one works. i don't think so . although you never know with the courts, but at this point in

time, this is the fourth time that donald trump has tried to close off some level of testimony from one of the witnesses in the january 6th criminal investigation that's been being conducted out of washington by the special counsel's office. this isn't just any witness, though. this is mike pence, his former vice president, and so pence is being subpoenaed to the grand jury. we know that there's already been one judge that said you have to go in and testify. donald trump is not going to be able to protect his presidential communications directly with mike pence from the criminal investigation, and that follows several losses that trump has had both at the trial level and at the appeals court level. he tried to cut off answers from others in the vice president's office, two of his top advisers , white house counsel lawyers, top aides, even cabinet officials. he just keeps losing every time he goes to the appeals court. and so we do have the expectation that this would be very much in line with that,

and also remember mike pence, said he's already willing to comply with this subpoena. he's already willing to testify under the judge's ruling. so far, he's not appealing anything because he's actually happy with what has happened in this case. pence is pretty pleased that he earned some protections around the vice presidency that members of congress also have, even if he has to show up and talk about conversations where donald trump may have been acting corruptly. in katelyn polantz does go forward and ends up testifying to them obviously would be incredibly significant, but we've seen so many other former top white house aides who have had to go before i go before the grand jury because they've lost similar appeals to the one that was just filed. that's right and what's so i was looking back into the law and the history on this, and this is actually not that unusual of a situation to happen in a criminal investigation 50 years ago in the watergate cases, they're basically the basically where

judges rulings saying no. the executive branch the president can't cut out things from a criminal investigation can't protect presidential secrecy when there is a grand jury need that outweighs it that held up through the clinton years through the clinton administration, and actually, it was very unusual for presidents to even try and claim that they wanted to protect presidential communications like this, and so what donald trump is doing is the unusual thing what the criminal investigators are doing here is pretty much in line with what they have been able to do historically, and they will be getting answers not just from mike pence, but for many of the witnesses where donald trump is trying to protect from his administration. yeah, we'll see what the court decides. katelyn polantz yes, thank you. let's get on tennessee republicans expelled him but now a young black lawmakers back in his seat back representing his district after the nashville metro council voted unanimously to reinstate him. state representative gloria johnson,

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of reflection here in tennessee that what they did they thought would happen without any resistance. but it has the world watching what's happening here. the speaker of the house is trying to backtrack now like i did, i said today, you know, we are calling for his resignation. he is an enemy of democracy, and he doesn't deserve to be in that office of speaker of the house any longer of reflection going on all over the country, but especially there in tennessee democratic representative justin jones. speaking last night entering the tennessee house that you're looking at now, the chamber after the nashville metro council voted unanimously to reinstate him on monday, jones and his democratic colleague, justin pearson, were expelled last week for violating decorum during a gun reform protests in the chamber. gloria johnson narrowly survived to removal vote and walked in the chamber by jones side. all the people back the people's house. mm. proceed back to the people's house, so called tennessee three

could be reunited tomorrow when shelby county commissioners will vote on whether to reinstate justin pearson. so joining us now tennessee state representative gloria johnson. thank you, representative. i appreciate you joining us this morning as i said to you in the break because of what happened in tennessee, but also because of what happened in kentucky. as well. it is all connected. we appreciate you joining us. so you walk back into the chamber arm in arm with your colleague justin jones. what was that moment like for you? it was. it was just it just felt right. it was so good to have him back in the body, um, overwhelmingly supported by not only his district, but every district in davidson county. and um, i just i was i didn't know if that would happen that he would be back or that there would be any challenge to it. and it was so nice because because both rep. pearson and rhett jones voices are so important in our body and we just need those young,

passionate voices that are willing to fight every step for their constituents and put their constituents before lobbyists and corporations. i want to ask you about. you've been very in front after the vote last week that you felt race played a role in jones and pearson's removal. but there are some of your republican colleagues were saying the difference was, in their estimation that it wasn't race that you argued. your attorney argued to the contrary that you never shouted or pounding the podium or displayed a sign containing political. statement last week and also that you chose not to participate in a letter that their attorneys had submitted that you your attorney didn't take part in that letter that you submitted your own. do you still believe that it was race? and how do you respond to your colleagues who are saying that um, you know, i'm i've been sitting in that body for a while . i hear racist statements all the time. and it was just a few weeks ago that one of my colleagues in our criminal

justice committee, um, we were we had a bill. they have a bill to bring back the firing squad in the electric chair and one of my colleagues that i think we should bring back hanging by a tree. he literally suggested lynching. ah i think it's very clear. there have been statements in committee for years, and they've made themselves clear if you heard the questioning of those two young men compared to my questioning. you definitely heard racially tinged questions it it's blatant, quite frankly. representative do those statements. make it onto the local media. would you like to see more coverage? we just did a segment a couple of minutes ago about state legislatures not getting the coverage that is warranted and some of these things going on in silos with people doing and saying reprehensible things. yes you

know, i think it's critical that we have our eyes on our state legislature. that's that's where that's where democracy dies. that's where they're attacking because they can in those red states or the supermajority states. and, um, we've got to have our eyes on everything that's happening there because it is, you know, democracy dies in darkness. and i feel like for a while, he has had no eyes on what's happening during covid. we didn't have a lot of visitors inside the capitol and people couldn't come if they wanted to come for gun violence bills or you know some of those things. it was hard to get people to the capital because of covid. now that we've opened back up and people are coming in it's great to have those people's voices in the hallways to remind folks that that's who they work for, and not the lobbyists and the special interest groups, which is i feel like you know their

bosses. yeah you said democracy dies in darkness. speaking of democracy, justin jones has called for a republican speaker, tennessee house. the tennessee's house, cameron sexton to resign , calling him an enemy of democracy. do you also think sex and should resign. ah yes. i mean, you know, we had a disgrace speaker right before him, and, um he is doing many of the same things just not as zealous and openly, i guess, but he has limited debate to almost nothing on the house floor. he um, make their make up the rules as they go along, you know? we asked for, um, be able to be able to show video and we were told no video. then we come in, and the first thing they do is make a motion to have video. and of course, they have the votes, so they voted in their video.

but we weren't prepared for video because they had already told us. no, they changed the rules as they go well, there's no debate or mix are cut off. um we are some most often, you know , not called on the other day when america was watching. we had more healthy debate on bills before those, um before the hearings. we had more healthy debate on bills and i think we've ever had in three years or three or four years on the house floor because people were watching. so because of what happened it the legislature has been so divided. do you think that get and getting the people's work done. is this going to make it harder or easier moving forward? now that this controversy has reached a worldwide audience? you know, that's an interesting question, and i've been asked that question. and um i'm hopeful. i'm always hopeful, but i'm

hopeful that they're listening that they're open that they realized. perhaps you know, we shouldn't stay with business as usual. we should be a more deliberative body, more transparent body. and i'm going to be hopeful that it's going to happen remains to be seen how they actually handle this, that they use it as a learning experience. um hopefully we will know soon but being able to deliberate and talk about some of these gun violence, um, gun sense regulations and legislation we want to put in because we want to protect the community. you know, i always hear oh, you know, don't talk about it yet. it's too soon. but if you don't talk about it, what we see is in the very next day or two. we have another horrible incident of gun violence, and so we do the time to talk about it is yesterday. because we have

got to stop this and i would hope that my colleagues get on board and help us do something that instead of beefing up security and having tanks that schools as one of our members suggested. we prevent guns from getting to the schoolhouse door , because if you're ready for a gunfight at the schoolhouse door, people are going to get hurt. but we can prevent guns from ever coming to the schoolhouse door our or to the bank doors. you know, that's what we want to do. we want to work on prevention. we don't want gun bottles at the schoolhouse door. we will be watching what happens in the tennessee legislature tomorrow when there is a vote for justin pearson's reinstatement and beyond. thank you, tennessee state representative gloria johnson. we appreciate it be. well, thank you. back in washington republican leaders this morning are working overtime to avoid a repeat of

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2022 midterms and what they were expecting to happen. the question i think is how are they doing this? how does this work with trump as well? yeah. i mean, this is the age old debate in politics always. how involved are you going to get in primary races? and this is something that the national republican senatorial committee is trying to deal with head on right now, making sure that they are getting involved in candidate recruitment early and often this reporting coming from our colleagues, manu raju and elena train as they really pull back the curtain on what the national republican senatorial committee is doing now to ensure that they don't lose in general elections across the country. three the 2024 map is really favorable for republicans. they know that but they don't want any unforced airs and republican leaders feel like they learned their lesson from 2022. here's senator john cornyn, who told my colleagues quote it never goes away, talking about that tension of getting involved in primaries, republicans need to make up their mind. do we want to win or do we want to lose? and i think

it's that simple and i think people are tired of losing some of the races that republicans are looking to make sure they get the right candidate in place for our in places like arizona places like west virginia as well as pennsylvania, in fact, carry lake met in february. she, of course, the failed gubernatorial candidate and arizona who ran as a central tenet of her campaign on election fraud claims, and in her meeting, the nrsc officials really tried to encourage her to move away from that message, arguing that that is not the kind of message that's going to work in a general election. caitlyn that's just one example of the way that republican leaders are trying to get involved early in this race, remarkable to hear accord and said, you know, they're tired of losing lauren fox will see if the strategy works. thank you for that reporting. let's talk about that with cnn political analyst in national politics reporter for the times has, said herndon. he also has a fascinating times podcast called the run up. the kerry lake meeting is really interesting

that a lot of sort of up brush line republicans think she could be. do you really well if she were to run for senate seat there, but hey, stay away from some of this election denialism . so if you went to dana point, california you talked about that on the podcast to be with those republicans. what did you learn there at the rnc is really this kind of nrsc crowd. this is the republican establishment, really trying to lay down a marker of what it's learned from the 2022 midterms and that really, that really adds up to what lauren just said that they say that they learned their lessons and they're trying to impose on the trump grassroot. is that they cannot kind of go down the line of election denial, but we have heard from rnc members. was that the backward looking nature of elections now didn't speak to americans, and they were pointing to people like governor desantis mike dewine, people on statewide levels who did better trying to encourage candidates in 2024. they talked a little more like them and a little less like donald trump. but the problem is they don't have control over the base, and so even as the kind of republican

establishment tries to impose a certain sense of messaging on its candidates, these are candidates who have risen by having a conflict with the rnc. harry lake has tried to stoke that conflict with the rnc. and so that's been part of their rise in terms of national prominence until you see kind of the top down, trying to tell them how they should calibrate their messaging, but they're dealing with candidates who they don't really have full level. bridge over because part of their political appeal has been pushing back conundrum. it's the rock and the hard place you just read, but i was just gonna say they're the old status of rock and hard place there between that listen, and between the old and the new this sort of more traditional republican and they sort of outspoken hyperba list if that's a word republican even republican senator john cornyn is saying that gop infighting in the party establishment and activist base it's costing them the majority. they're admitting that he's sick of it. here's what he says. he says. it never goes away. republicans need to make up their mind. do we want

to lose? and i think that's you know, it's that simple. people are tired of losing, as he said in his thing. that is it kind of reminds you in 2020 when joe biden was able to convince the democratic base to focus on electability to put everything else aside and say, actually, the main priority here. is who can beat donald trump. and that should be the organizing principle. that is kind of the argument. you hear the non trump wing of republicans making right now is to say, let's move on from the kind of value driven, grievance driven politics and let's focus on the type of candidate that can best be joe biden on the other side. the problem again is that trump has gotten so many people involved in the party. this is one of the things we heard in dana point. there's been so much republican activism, they have transformed the party from the kind of george bush era of the past, and that takes and there's a lot of republicans who take real pride in it, and so that's going to be difficulty for the establishment side of republicans to really find a message that works on issues like abortion on issues like guns, issues that have real

tension between their activist class, and then they're kind of compromise general election position while at the same time really satisfying a grassroots space that drives the energy in the primaries and drives the energy for the upcoming presidential election, because, remember, even on stuff stuff like abortion. ron desantis is currently pushing a six week abortion ban in florida. that would be a position that's difficult for a general election . the audience you have to please in the short term is much different than the audience that the republicans have to think about in the long term, and look at how republicans have handled the abortion fight that we're seeing right now. with this pill with the ruling from what happened in texas. a lot of them have been very quiet on it. yeah i've heard someone call this the ostrich strategy. you know, sticking your head in the sand. it's not working for republicans . and i think that wisconsin was a real wake up call for them. there's been several of these right ever since the job decision came down there was kansas. there was other results in the midterms, but i think wisconsin and the margin in wisconsin specifically really shook republicans. they are losing both in the suburbs.

these are people who are being persuaded to go vote for democrat rats in a big number a bit much bigger numbers than even we saw in barack obama's democratic party. but they're also losing in terms of madison and those young people being motivated to come out. this is a dual problem for them and in places like wisconsin but which we know is a 50 50 states if democrats are outperforming in terms of money and not performing in terms of a special election, that's real warning signs when i talked to the leader of the democratic party in wisconsin, he said, very clearly, while this by the state race was about gerrymandering nationally, it was about abortion locally. that's what they message about, and that's what they want on drives people to the polls were in the primary, right ignites them doesn't necessarily driving to the polls in the activists are controlling the primary. the general elections about that compromised position. thank you. stead. always. so the pentagon doing damage control after highly classified military and intelligence documents leaked online, the top democrat on the house intelligence committee, warning the leaks could have deadly consequences. sunday

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something of this kind of a magnitude where they don't know yet? if it's even been contained. it's pretty bad, caitlin, you're right. we don't know how big or how bad it can get. i mean, you look at at the tactical level would affect what happens on the ground between russia and ukraine at the strategic level, and it affects our ability to get more information. it affects our our sources and methods. and then you have a political level between us and our allies and what it means about the relationship there and then finally, it does impact confidence within the united states government itself between departments and people about our ability to keep seeing it's i think it was striking how much we heard from john kirby yesterday we heard a little bit of it. they're saying how much they don't know. they don't even know if it's over at this point , and you dealt with not the same thing but similar leaks. it was 2020 or, you know, defense secretary. this was about russia. information that russians had beat had paid militants in afghanistan to kill u. s troops. but can you just

speak to having helmed one of those investigations? and how important it is to know what you don't know. right well, we launched an investigation in the summer of 2020. and it was it was a variety of issues. it was operational deployment issues. it was, uh, you know other matters, and it went on for months and months to kind of ferret this out and find out where it was coming from who? why? what and even by time i left office. the investigation still wasn't concluded after six plus months, so it's going to take some time. i fear to get to the bottom of this and meanwhile we have war happening in ukraine and hopefully soon counter offensive by the ukrainians themselves against russia. the question always is, is why is a point just to destabilize? who knows? i mean, i think that is a big question. it seems in recent years it's often been people who disagree with policy that was my experience at the pentagon or have a different view about how america's acting the road. if you look at the i think the

snowden and the manning case is those were two examples, but we don't know until we know look, we have to find out. is it in an american is that somebody else is it both? these are big unanswered questions that we need to get to the bottom of and quickly how many people have have access to these kinds of documents? how hard is it going to be too narrow it down? you know when we first opened up the investigation i launched in 2020 . i thought it was a few dozen. it quickly became hundreds and then eventually in the thousands . it depends on how much it was released. in this case, we know that the information was shared with foreign partners. so again , i don't think we know the scope of this problem and it will take a while to determine that the washington post has exclusive reporting on some of the information they say from this this league, including one of america's closest allies, the recipient of a lot of usa by the way, egypt recently ordering subordinates to produce up to 40,000 rockets shipped to russia. what did you think? when

you read that? yeah look, it's very interesting. egypt has had a, uh, an arms relationship with with if you will with russia for decades. i was troubled by it as secretary defense because we give them over a billion dollars a year in assistance right them, turn around and then use their own currency to buy russian arms was troubling for me, and this is just another. another example of a so called partner dealing with the russians. now we don't know whether it's true or not, so we need to get to the bottom of that, and i think this will be an oversight question for congress, right and egypt's response has been our responses when based on non involvement. that's the word they use a major question for congress. and also you know what this means going forward. if these documents were alternative, it's accurate secretary expert thank you for your insight on all of this this morning. thank you all. louisville kentucky, another city in america, and it is morning like so many this morning, five people murdered in

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