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for a free book 1 808 220400 or go to meso book .com. good evening to give you some idea what change looks like on an issue that some fear is impervious to take a look at the front page of today's nashville, tennessee. in lee. it reads that republican governor bill lee wants gun law action beneath it. jones meaning democratic state representative justin jones expelled after gun violence. protests on the statehouse floor reclaims his seat in the legislature. two major bipartisan developments in the wake of last month school shooting in nashville happening with remarkable speed, creating a front page that might have seemed inconceivable just a few days ago, and that was before local officials voted today to reinstate the second expelled state representative justin j. pearson of memphis last night on this program, representative jones said he saw a change of heart in governor lee and then perhaps another sign of that both his reinstatement and representative pearsons today were unanimous. representative

pearson joins us now, representative thanks so much for being with us. how does it feel to be reappointed just six days after you were first expelled? we have to realize that the antidemocratic behavior at the tennessee state republican party is dangerous and that disenfranchising thousands, hundreds of thousands of voters is always wrong, especially on an issue where we are trying to elevate the need for a gun violence prevention and gun reform, especially in the time when we're recognizing the loss of life and louisville and nashville from gun violence, and now there is determination and a movement that's building of young people, especially is demanding change happen. and so that gives even ever present hope during these difficult times, a part of what you said to some of your supporters after your were reappointed earlier today, just listen to this. tried to kill democracy. they tried to expel the people's choice and the people's vote. they are awakened a sleeping.

gloria johnson and justin jones and me on trial. but they ended up putting themselves on track. for 30 years back. i felt it. so of the republicans who voted to expel you. have any of them expressed you second thoughts or regrets? i mean, do you think there's common ground to be found on the issue of guns? yeah not a single republican legislator has reached out to apologized or anything like that . and i'm not necessarily expecting that. what i am expecting is that we listen to the millions of voices of tennesseans who want to see reforming our gun legislation. the reality is we have too many

laws that have made it so you don't have to have a permit to carry lowering the age to being able to carry weapons of war and we have assault work rainfalls that you can easily purchase what we need are laws that the people in tennessee of woman you want. you see with the governor. bill leads push for more universal background checks as an executive order, but that can easily change. we need that to be a law receiving, nodding at least red flag laws. we need to turn these ideas into policies into practice. isn't it? the laws and so that is the expectation that i have that the republican party of tennessee catch up in cameron sexton catch up to serving the people as we were seeking to do an elevating their voices and not expelling people because we've got a lot of work to do. is it clear to how much sway the governor actually has over the republican controlled legislature? do you think they will support you? even though the limited things that he wants yeah, i think we need to be demanding more in the governor needs to use all of his political capital, not just some of it towards this issue. the republican party of tennessee is

much too often operating as a mob ocracy than a democracy and operating with modern rule in mind and not the people in mind. and so i don't know the inner workings of their politics and the inner workings of the politics led to the expulsion of duly elected members of the state house. i know the inner working of their politics is not pushing forward policies of progress that we need. to see. but i do know that people power works and that there are millions of people the state of tennessee right now who are saying the status quo is not sufficient? why do you think they reversed themselves? i mean, you know it was. it was pretty, uh, pretty. i mean, even after they expelled you. number of them went on tv justifying expelling. you didn't seem like they were about to change their minds. what do you think it was that made them yeah, it is always movements of people who are determined to see justice happened that even forces institutions that seems so rigid. that seems so impossible to change to change. and i think in this moment when you have nine year olds holding signs

like my next and you have mothers like sarah, who's five year old noah, was that the covenant school in nashville or miss lavonda thorn henderson, who's in memphis, and whose son was killed by gun violence in january, my own classmate larry thrown, you have these types of voices in this solidarity being built across our a state. it is impossible for the same posture of pontificating on behalf of the nra and the tennessee firearms association to go forward, and i believe right now a mass movement is swelling towards justice in the state of tennessee and in our country, and everyone is being forced to reckon with it and to respond and adjust way and we are going to be inside the legislature pushing for that, as well as supporting those millions of tennesseans who want to see just gun reform outside of the legislature, would you protest again on the floor of the legislature? inside. they said it was violating the rules of decorum. you there was a bullhorn involved. is that something you would do again? yes i have no regrets about the actions that i took on the house floor because it has forced us to have a conversation about why

we are comfortable enough to have people being killed by gun violence and doing nothing. why is it that we have people who are comfortable with the nra's positions on things, but we are not taking concrete steps to create laws that can actually protect us not only in our schools but in our homes in our churches and our banks. and so i don't regret any of the actions that we took. and sometimes anderson it takes to breaking the rules of decorum in order for people. people who have been marginalized in silence to push for the periphery to be pushed towards the center of the conversation, and we are pushing the nashville families and we're pushing the louisville family and the families and memphis and millington and shelby county to the center of our conversation and being forced to answer the question of why won't we do something? why would we accept inaction when all they're bleeding is that we do sensible things and exercising our first amendment right and a country built on protests. i don't think there's anything more american that we can do and elevating the issues of democracy and ellie. the issues of importance that our constituents sent us here to represent. representative pearson. i appreciate your time. thank you. thank you so much.

god bless going to keep fighting. joining us now is someone whose own experience share some common threads with justin pearson, cnn political commentator because resellers served as representative south carolina state legislature was at that time the youngest black elected official in the country . i don't know if you feel like now an old man tonight, but i certainly do. what do you make of the political whiplash that has happened in tennessee in the past few days, judges show at fault line in democracy or the resilience of it? i think it shows a fault line of democracy. i think it really echoes something that we both know to be true, which is democracy is fragile. and i think when you have individuals like those who lead the tennessee republican party, the speaker of the house in tennessee who decided to overstep their bounds, who decided to use racism as political currency who decided to actually just not care about those individuals that justin, justin and gloria represented in particular justin and justin and ejecting them from their duly elected house seats. you see that? democracy is truly

fragile. and so, yeah, the fault lines were exposed, but one of the things that this, justin said, which speaks volumes is that people power we've seen something in tennessee that it should warm your heart. we've seen the fact that when people come together around an issue, and they're not talking about the issue of race per se, they're not talking about the issue of us. versus them. they're talking about an issue that affects everyone. whether or not you're black, white democrat, republican yankees, southern or whatever you may be talking about gun violence and the fact that they keep their eyes on that prize. they keep their eye focused on that policy issue makes me feel like we may actually get some change. do you have any doubt that the protest by the representatives was not the reason that they were expelled? was that the do you have any doubt that that was the fingering? so anderson respectfully we're in the south and you know, i would tell folk and i wrote in my book. i said

look, when i wanted to take a deep breath when i was in the general assembly from 2006 to 2014. i went outside and took a deep breath out there a long day under the auspices of the confederate flag. there was definitely a tenor of we're gonna tell these colored boys what they can and can't say. i mean, we're gonna shut him up. i was at one of my favorite bars here in charlotte yesterday. we were talking. everybody's talking about this issue and the guy sitting at the bar next to me, he said macari. they they threw out the two black guys, but not the white woman. they didn't throw out, gloria. and then we looked at each other and laughed. we said nobody ever goes full of racism. i mean, the fact is, they went full racism, intimacy and what they wanted to do was put these young black boys in their place. we've seen it throughout history. i mean, the most famous example. i always echo and i said it on this network a few times. it's 1966. this isn't the first time julian bond went through something similar because of his stance in vietnam, and they didn't want to seat him in the georgia state house of representatives. and so, yes what? what that tennessee legislature did was one go full

racism and to harken back to a day of 1966, and they're going to say, bacary, don't call me racist. don't play the race card. well you know, don't be racist. we won't play the race card. sellers appreciate your time. thank you. card. always. thank you. anderson, louisville , mass shooting that happened just monday. last night, we saw a body camera video from city police officers going straight into the line of fire to stop the killer. tonight, audio from the 911 calls that brought them to the scene. cnn shimon protopapas has details. awesome i don't know what to do. i need your help. a mom calls 911 after she was told her son had a gun and was headed to the louisville bank where he worked heading toward the old national but she said she didn't believe her 25 year old son was a threat. he not violent anything, please. okay. and you don't believe he owns guns. i know he wasn't only

guns, but she would wind up being wrong and the call came too late to cuter there. her son was already inside the bank where he worked shooting the rifle gun. has anybody bn shot ? yes 1911 caller hiding from the gunman. i'm in the closet with one person. yeah, i hear you. i hear comes back and bank employees watching the attack on fold on a video conference meeting. we heard multiple shots when everybody started saying oh, my god, and then he came into the ports. okay say the government livestream the attack on instagram. it was just one minute before he sat down and waited for police to arrive. he went to the front lobby after after assaulting the victims in the office area. and he could see out where no one could see in people there fast, please. the shooter used an ar 15 style rifle he'd legally bought six days before the attack,

according to police. body camera video shows louisville metro police officers responding. we're making entry from the from the east side, pressing the main and heading toward the gunfire. 26 year old officer, nicholas wilt is shot in the head and critically injured and we have a gunshot wound of an officer. his training officer corey galloway takes cover, but it's also shot before he returns, fire and kills the gunman. timing is, as we all know, is everything but not having officers to hesitate. but actually, um, really go in and say i need to stop this threat. words can express our sorrow, anguish and horror unthinkable harm, a statement from the family's lawyers said. but they also said that he struggled with depression, while the shooter like many of his contemporaries, had mental health challenges, which we as a

family. we're actively addressing. there were never any warning signs or indications he was capable of this shocking act. it's so incredible showman prohibits joins us now. is there any update on the officer's condition? good news is it hasn't changed right? but that's also bad news. i think they're still trying to figure out what kind of damage he suffered up to his head. i mean, that's where he was shot. and so it's day to day he's been in a and, um induced coma, and so they're sort of dealing with that. so there's really no update, but you know, it's a struggle right now that police department obviously just dealing with all of this, that the other officer uh galloway the training but he was his training officer, which is gonna be a heavyweight heavyweight on him just all the thoughts in his head. he's lucky he survived. i mean, he's got grace just inches from from killing him and severely injuring him as well. appreciate the report. thank you today, katelyn polantz spoke exclusively with kentucky's governor, andy bashir. his first

interview since the shooting, the governor told caitlin about telling the wife of tommy elliott that her husband, his dear friend had been killed. you were actually were the one who called his wife. to let her know. she deserves to know. um i came here immediately. after originally getting a text and i noticed him office in frankfurt that there was a mass shooting going on and then getting the address that it was my back. i knew it would be ours. before others could call her and i thought you deserved to know and we're real close. i think right now to where i made that call artists. i've been governor during this pandemic. i've been governor during tornadoes. and floods. negative 45 degree wind chills and everything else. we've lost a lot of people during those, but calling your friend's wife who's also your friend to tell her that her

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looking. the special counsel's office was looking at this question of was there essentially wire fraud or some sort of fraud in the email fundraising that went on after the election? what's important here i think is we're seeing them drilling down onto this question to ask a very specific question, which is? how are these email solicitations? how are they crafted? how are they written? how are they changed and edited? and what were the people making those pitches for money saying to each other about these claims, because there's one comparison case where you could say that the claims that were being made the appeals being made for money were being made by people who in some ways may have known that they were not telling the truth. and that is the real question that prosecutors have to try to answer here. was there a known misstatement known misrepresentations to just generate money because these appeals generated tens of millions of dollars? obviously they're going after the communications of specific

people, i assume they know who those people are behind specific appeal. yeah. can you hear me now? i guess not. um. we'll try to get that worked out. devlin barrett, uh, stay with us. i want to bring in cnn's legal analyst will try to get devlin back in former deputy assistant attorney general elliot williams is with us. also cnn senior political commentator adam kinzinger. he's a former illinois republican congressman obviously served on the house. january six. select committee. elliot. how concerned should the former president be about this news tonight from washington post? he he should be pretty concerned for a big reason that it's clear that the special counsel's looking into two particular crimes, mail fraud and wire fraud, both of which require the making of a false statement that one knows to be untrue for the purpose of deriving a benefit or money from somebody else, and mail and wire fraud can carry up to 30 years in prison. they're they're serious, serious offenses. more importantly, anderson what's

clear with the special counsel investigation. and the investigation of the uh, district attorney in georgia is that both really hinge on this central question of when did the former president and the people around him? what did they know about whether they lost the election fraud requires establishing that an individual knew something to be not true before proceeding with trying to take money out of someone else, and what's happening in georgia is an investigation into election fraud. it's sort of look, it's a very different crime happening in georgia, or at least being investigated. so central question is, did people know no, that the former president of lost the election and still continue to engage election officials amendment so it's really a central factor, but so elliot, let me ask you if it's a group of people who are working for some organization who are sending out these emails. does it matter if one of them you know if it's four people if one of them or two of them have text messages where they're saying, oh, i don't believe the election. you know

you clearly the election wasn't stolen, but two of them believe it was. does that matter? i mean, then not. yeah. no that's the next question. it all depends on what the nature of the communications were and what each person knew at the time. so for instance, was one of the people. one of the people who didn't know or wasn't aware. were they forwarding emails where they reading them? were they aware of some of the communications it's just going to depend even by statement, person by person, kinsey or do you think the special counsel's on a path here? that's valuable. oh oh, i think so. i mean, look, others can answer the legality of this stuff. but let me tell you, the people that were writing these emails told the committee that they knew they were basically saying, like we knew we had to pump out whatever it was each of us 10 or 20 e mails a day because we knew that each time we sent out an email it would raise whatever 50 or $100,000. ah so there was no commitment. i won't go far as far as to say they knew they were lying because i don't know that and i can't speak to that.

but i know that they had pressure they were feeling intense pressure to produce a ton of emails. and they didn't have to be more to truth. and in fact, you know, we believe that and i frankly believe that a lot of the radicalization that occurred between the election and frankly, january 6th and on came from this, you know, if you're signed up for donald j. trump's email list, you're gonna get 10 or 20. a day of these emails were the headlines just say, like nancy pelosi is going to x y z or these rhinos are going to x y z so people had a lot of pressure to turn out a bunch of material that they think knew not to be true. it will be interesting to see where the legality lies on this congressman kinzinger appreciate elliot williams as well. we apologized to devlin barrett for the audio issues. we appreciate his report. in the washington post. coming up. what is rupert murdoch's role at fox news and at fox corporation? it seems like a simple question. the answer to that question is that the heart of what could be a key new development, billion dollar defamation case against the network. the judge says he's

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credibility problem. both comments were about rupert murdoch's role of the network. the judge said he plans to appoint an outside attorney called a special master to investigate whether fox lied and withheld key evidence. dominion argues that fox narrowly defined murdoch's role limiting what fox turned over during discovery now it happened to day before jury selection begins and after a series of damaging revelations about the network, randi kaye has that part of the story. the outcome of our presidential election was seized from the hands of voters. fox news host tucker carlson backing former president donald trump on air but private text messages sent by carlson released as part of the dominion voting systems lawsuit against fox news show how he really feels about trump . according to the messages, carlson actually hates trump passionately. and views. his presidency is a disaster two days before the capital insurrection, carlson wrote. we are very, very close to being able to ignore trump. most nights i truly can't wait on january, 6th carlson texted his

producer, calling trump a demonic force a destroyer. carlson described trump's postelection behavior as disgusting. is the fix already in. it wasn't just carlson, other fox hosts who repeatedly featured trump's election fraud claims on air. nobody liked in voting systems were also mocking trump and his lawyers behind the scenes. court documents reveal fox anchors and executives used words like ludacris, mind blowingly nuts and totally insane, carlson texted other hosts, including laura ingram, about trump lawyer sydney powell , saying powell is lying by the way i caught her. it's insane, ingram responded. sydney is a complete nut. no one will work with her court. documents released in the case also include an email from fox chairman rupert murdoch, describing trump's election lies as bull. and damaging. in murdoch's january deposition, he conceded that some fox hosts were endorsing trump's falsehoods about the 2020

election being stolen, murdoch said. i would have liked us to be stronger and denouncing it. in hindsight, murdoch's deposition also reveals that he rejected his own networks conspiracy theories about dominion. when asked by dominions lawyers do you believe that dominion was engaged in a massive and coordinated effort to steal the 2020 presidential election? murdoch replied, no. promotion of the false claims was also rejected by the networks, dc managing editor court documents show in my 22 years affiliated with fox, this is the closest thing i've seen to an existential crisis at least journalistically, bill sammon wrote to a colleague. still, fox news denies wrongdoing and says it was reporting on newsworthy allegations about the election. why we're fox host saying one thing on the air and something else privately. dominion contends this was all about business and not alienating the base loyal to trump when fox reporters tried to report the facts, they were attacked, court

filings show tucker carlson was livid after a fox news reporter fact check trump's tweet about votes allegedly being destroyed . carlson texted coworkers. please get her fired. seriously what the f it needs to stop immediately. like tonight. it's measurably hurting the company. the stock prices down, not a joke. documents from court also show fox news chief suzanne scott was furious after a correspondent for the network fact check. trump's election lies warning it was bad for business. in this email, scott said. this has to stop now the audience is furious, and we're just feeding the material bad for business. in another, revealing email, murdock explained why hannity continued to promote election lies, saying hannity had been privately disgusted by trump for weeks but was scared to lose viewers. and randi kaye joins us now what stands out to you? in the details that are emerging court filings by dominion. well, anderson what's remarkable in these legal filings as you can

see how worried fox hosts and executives were they were worried about losing business. they were also worried about losing viewers, certainly to newsmax, which was also pushing these false election conspiracy theories. and when you look at the whole breath of the text messages in the emails, you can really see the fox business model, at least according to dominion. they have said that it's not about delivering the truth. dominion says that it's about pushing content and conspiracy theories to these viewers, feeding them all of that to keep them hooked. now more specifically, dominion has alleged in the lawsuit that fox news recklessly disregarded the truth because it was more concerned about business. and dominion is now saying that these emails, text messages and also the deposition testimony. speak for themselves. anderson appreciate it. thank you perspective now from retired first amendment lawyer lee levine. representative fox news , cnn and many other media organizations in his distinguished 40 years of practice. lee when you hear the developments in court today, the judge accusing foxes legal team making misrepresentations, saying he's likely to appoint a special master to investigate.

is that a big deal to run afoul of the judge like this on the eve of the trial? oh, yes, it is a very big deal. anderson it's a big deal on three levels first one of the things that the judge said today. was that he was likely going to give the jury what's called an adverse inference instruction, which means that he's going to tell them that because fox did not produce information and discovery that hampered dominion and its ability to defend the case. the jury can infer from that that the information that fox didn't provide would have been helpful to dominion and that is coming from the judge that will be very powerful to the jury, especially on top of all of the emails and texts that you just discussed on the air. the judge, judge davis also sanctioned fox, basically saying dominion can conduct new depositions with witnesses and if they do fox has to pick up the cost. i don't know if

dominion will actually take the judge up on that on the offer. if there will be other sanctions if you were i mean, if you were representing dominion, how would you want to proceed is with new depositions mean a halt to the trial? not necessarily. there are obviously going to be a number of witnesses in the case. the ones that are impacted by the new information that has just recently been turned over by fox to dominion. ah are very few so theoretically, those depositions could be taking place at another location while the trial is going on, and fox, uh could make those witnesses available both for the depositions and then for their trial testimony and dominion could have the advantage of having that information gleaned from the deposition when they actually put the witnesses on the stand, and this revolution is rupert murdoch apparently held dual roles about fox news as well as his parent company,

fox corporation. could that explain why that has the potential? i mean, what? what does that have the potential be significant to this case? it's just that they didn't specify that to dominion. that's what dominion is claiming. dominion and the judge as well, seems to be of the view that that question about rupert murdoch's role at fox news whether he was in fact an officer of the company. um fox misstated or did not disclose that he was and now it has belatedly disclosed that he was and the judge is very concerned that that was a misrepresentation that prejudice dominion because if it had known if dominion had known that murdoch was an officer of the corporation. it would have arguably be entitled to a broader array of documents to be produced from murdoch because he would have had at least

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medication that americans rely on. no matter how essential it is, and no matter how long ago it was approved, joining us someone with a unique perspective on this doctor jane haney was fda commissioner when preston was approved as well as the first woman to run the agency. appreciate you being with us, as you know, the texas judge said that the fda quote entirely failed to consider the psychological effects of the drug or an evaluation of its long term medical consequences. is that true? uh what i can say is this application, uh, this india or new drug application that was received by the agency received the same thorough review that all applications do the procedure that is used. it was thorough. uh it was, you know, there are many. hundreds of decisions really tens of not

hundreds of decisions of a medical scientific nature that have to be asked and answered as the agency looks at an application before it can give its approval. and this was done . uh it was not only done that whole process and whether or not the regular kind of review that is done on a drug was also reviewed by the g. a. o um some years later, and they affirmed that that was the case. so the data that was looked at by the agency, then the hundreds of studies that have been generated since ah, have all supported the safety profile of this medication that there are side effects. ah certainly to be sure , but they are mild to moderate and, um, since they are known

often times can be um, well controlled by the providers working with their patients in the all the years that this drug has been on the market and being used and used a lot. um obviously, studies are done and if there was any problem that had arisen in all that time, that would be something. that the fda or the medical establishment would be well aware of by now. no absolutely there. there's studies that, um , are known are you know published in journals. there have been reviews that this product done by the national academy of medicine by the american college of gynecologists. um the safety profile on this drug. ah is good , if not better than when it was originally reviewed because now it's been out in the marketplace . it's been used on some of five

million, um, patients, and so it has been extraordinarily well studied. to your knowledge, has there ever been a situation where one district court judge moved to revoke the nationwide approval of a drug that's been used for two decades. and if there hasn't been what? what's the impact of something like this? not just on this particular drug, but just in general, if this is something that starts to happen to my knowledge. this is never happened because the congress when they passed the legislation originally in 1937, it was around the safety of drugs and then in 62 around the efficacy of drugs, and then subsequent times they have empowered. fda to make these and expect fda to make these kind of medical and scientific decisions. that is where the staff of the government resides. that can do

this work and that they are expected to do this work. um uh , it is unprecedented. what has happened here? and if the it's certainly i think it's certainly has implications for my feet. kristen um, but if this kind of suspension or revocation of an approval can really stand, it does have implications in the broader, uh, biological pharmacology community. um because the approval process will be at risk, and it's not just an improved process that patients rely on and providers rely on it's one that has been considered the gold standard. really for the world. we heard the attorney general saying that this really could also impact other medications and americans rely on you agree with that.

that is not just this this if this whole stands other medications than judges could start to weigh in on here and there. well one does not want to be a chicken little uh, but certainly the implications of a suspension reversal relocation here. ah i can't imagine that it wouldn't have implications for other products. i appreciate your time. thank you. thank you , just ahead of polling videos posted online that appear to show war atrocities in ukraine, the beheadings of two ukrainian soldiers or report from ukraine next. welcome to the next level. this is the lexus nx with intuitive tech traffic. and our most advanced safety system

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purports to show the beheadings of two of its soldiers. president zelensky today condemned the perpetrators as beasts. an aide to the president says they are still trying to verify the video's authenticity . cnn's nick paton walsh is in ukraine tonight with the story which we warn you is graphic. nick, what do we know about these videos? yeah. i mean, we do. actually, no, not that much . at this stage. it's important to point that out. it's hard to independently verify everything that's thought to be the case about them. the first i should prefer to seems to have been filmed in summer months. that's because of the foliage. you see during it. i've seen the entire blurred video and most of the versions you see online are in fact, heavily blurred. this shows what seems to be a ukrainian soldier, judging by their uniform and the yellow armband they're wearing that's often used to delineate sides. in the conflict. that man does appear to be alive and then another man amassed soldier. he seems to be wearing a white band

that's often used here to delineate the ru side in the conflict. he leans in and begins to cut him around the neck and slowly decapitated the individual. it's exceptionally gruesome. i should point out and last for a lengthy period of time. shocking and there are enough signs. i think in there, too such jest that what we are seeing is a ukrainian member of personnel being the victim here and potentially a russian, according to those signed committing the crime. the second video appears to be from a different time of year, possibly winter months, judging by the sort of harsh nature of the land grainy too, but it appears to show the aftermath of a mine explosion that's hit a vehicle. and then there are the bodies of ukrainian soldiers there. one that we see appears to have its hands and head missing that could be caused by the intensity of an explosion like that. but some observers have pointed out that the cuts the places where those parts and forgive me the

graphic nature of the details here, where the heads and hands the hands and heads removed, appear to show cleaner cuts. exceptionally graphic material here but certainly something which many would point out shows the ferocity of the conflict if indeed they are genuine and also to the intent. he of the information will be dealing with as well. anderson what have ukrainian authorities said about the videos. what key ukrainian president zelensky has referred to these is a sort of sign of what kind of creatures ukraine is facing here. i should point out this is not the first time we've seen or heard evidence of atrocities by russian forces. certainly if indeed these videos do in fact point to that, you know anything from the bombing of bomb shelters we talked about in mariupol to the intense ferocity of artillery strikes against civilian infrastructure. it's been an utterly brutal war . a lot of that, specifically, the finger pointed towards moscow. moscow themselves have

said that they need to look into this further to see who's doing what to who clearly and it could be potentially propaganda as well. but as this conflict drags on, anderson the shocking nature the images you see what i saw today. the nature of that beheading video reminded me very clearly of the shock tactics. isis would use a bid in their ways often to sort of seem like an hour. outsized enemy towards those they were facing by being so utterly savage in the things that they did shows you quite how fast this war is escalating as it drags on into its second year now, anderson walsh in ukraine forest tonight. thank you. programming note. nick payton. walsh will be on the premiere episode of my new show that debbie debuts this sunday on cnn. the whole story takes us on a treacherous journey through the daring gap. it's a dangerous 66 mile jungle crossing between colombia and panama for many migrants seeking asylum in the us the whole story premieres this sunday. at eight. p.m. still ahead. the white house is

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