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canada and all around the world. i'm kimberly, who were coming up this hour on cnn newsroom historic rainfall in south florida leads to serious flooding power outages closing of the fort lauderdale international airport will tell you when the extreme weather will move out of the area, plus a late night ruling by a federal appeals court on the suspension of the abortion inducing drug. we'll have details, and president biden celebrates his family roots during his three day visit ireland just ahead we'll go live to dublin for a preview of today's events. live from atlanta. this is cnn newsroom with kim bruun huber. and we begin with what some call a once and a half century extreme weather event happening right now in florida, up to 20 inches of rain has fallen in parts of south florida the past few hours with more in the forecast. well that led to a flash water emergency, the highest possible level of flood warning. so what you're seeing
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here is the ford lauderdale hollywood international airport , which is partially underwater . right now we know the airport will be closed at least until noon today. the train service between miami and fort lauderdale has been put on hold . lauderdale plans to issue a local state of emergency or airboats and high water vehicles are set to join rescue efforts. for the latest, we go to meteorologist prickly ritz here in atlanta, who's keeping an eye on all this so brightly take us through what you're seeing and what's still in store. okay. flood warnings are still in effect until eight o'clock eastern time for broward county , where areas have picked up almost 20 inches, if not more mind you. those are estimated so they can still change preliminary totals. denia beach picking up almost 14 inches over the past 24 hours, and you'll see the pinks nearly 20 inches, 22, a half reported again estimated at the airport. and if that's the case, we wind up with one and 1000 to 1 end. 5000 year
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event and some of these locations like fort lauderdale lauderdale, picking up more than their average over a seven month period. so here we are, with the rain chances finally tapering back. we still have a few showers, and once that sun comes up, i'm sure we'll see a few more fire up. so we have additional rainfall expected but the bulk of that moisture now associated with the low coming into the gulf, so you'll see that right from the panhandle back into parts of louisiana. this continues on through the roof. rest of your thursday and into friday. very scattered by the time we roll into late friday. regardless we still have more rain, and here it is through friday, picking up an additional inch to possibly two inches of rain on the east coast of florida again, the bulk of it will be concentrated over toward the gulf coast up toward mobile with an additional 2 to 4 inches of rain, flooding likely a possibility. there are two on top of it the threat for severe weather with the spin of that area of low pressure, we wind up with isolated tornadoes from the
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gulf, right back down into floor. on the opposite end of things on the ridge. we get back into the plains right on up into the northeast. we have record highs and we broke some of them yesterday. 65 possible records this week from the midwest back on into the northeast. look at the numbers here. temperatures well above where they should be tend almost 15 degrees above whether they're normal isn't in some cases, 20 85 degrees and philadelphia on friday. 70 that's when the front starts to move through. as we roll into the weekend, kim alright. appreciate brightly, ritz. thanks so much i want to bring in douglas strong. he's the owner of a commercial cleaning service in fort lauderdale. so first of all, thanks so much for being here with us. just just, you know, how are how's your situation right now? the rains have finally tapered down a bit just for the past eight hours. i've never seen rain like this, and i came from northern california, where it used to
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rain a lot in the nineties, and it was just unbelievable. it was just just coming down like crazy for basically about eight hours straight. it seemed like and i know a lot of people don't have any power and so on. how are you coping? do you have you have power there? yeah i have power right now. um i've just got back to my place. it's about three in the morning right now, and i got back to my place. only about an hour ago. i was about five hours. i was trapped away from my house. basically because of the flood waters were just too deep to drive through. yeah i mean, you've you've been sort of out and about, um, and a lot of those roads are flooded out. as you said, so describe what you were seeing and how bad it was. yeah it was pretty unbelievable. i've never seen it. where there's so many cars and there was just dozens and dozens of cars just scattered throughout
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the whole downtown of fort lauderdale and really appearing like, um, like people just were born expecting in the water to get that deep that quick. we're just you can see some of the video that that you took as well. i mean, it's pretty incredible seeing all those those cars being washed away. i mean, even though they were getting warnings. a lot of people seem to disregard those warnings and we're driving into the water. yeah i wasn't a little surprised by some people . i think some people were trying to charge through it. but yeah, it's never wise because you never know how deep the water is, and it can very quickly a dangerous and you could drown. brie easily. um so , yeah, i was out and about, um, walking around just seeing if there were any people that needed help and dire need, and thankfully, i didn't run across anybody that did need help as far as life threatening or anything. yeah i'm just
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wondering how how people are coping with all this. it seems folks weren't really prepared for this. even some of the you know the city hall and so on was underwater. is that affecting, you know their ability to help people? uh let's see. i saw a lot of emergency. um like the firefighters were out. the police were out in full force. so, um i didn't witness anybody that was in any dire need of whatever sort of help but i did see, you know, sirens and on the cars going by so i'm sure whatever helps people needed they got up to them. i haven't heard of anyone, um, being hurt or injured so far, i hope the stays that way, too. yeah absolutely. well listen, glad to see that you are okay. as you say. the rain is kind of tapering off, but it's still far from other over, so stay safe. appreciate you talking to us, douglas thrown thanks again. yeah, thanks for having me appreciate it. alright right now
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a severe tropical cyclone is barreling toward western australia and when it makes landfall in the coming hours, ilsa is expected to be one of the most powerful storms to hit the region in more than a decade. the storms currently headed toward the coast with the strength of a category four hurricane, australia's bureau of meteorology warns it could reach category five strength before landfall. authorities are piling up the sandbags and residents are being urged to get to safer ground. emergency services have been checking in on remote aboriginal communities, minds and tourist sites to warn them of the potential chaos ahead. appeals court issued a ruling a short time ago on the fate of a key abortion medication drug in the us, it decided to partially grant the justice department's request to freeze a judge's ruling that invalidated the fda approval of medford, kristen, but it left in place parts of the order that halted changes to make the abortion pill more
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easily accessible. well that effectively will make the drug harder to obtain as the legal process plays out on the case could ultimately end up before the us supreme court. louisville, kentucky is mourning the lives lost in monday's bank shooting hundreds gathered wednesday evening for a vigil to honor and remember the victims. five people were killed by a bank employee who opened fire on his coworkers. please have now released. 911 calls detailed the panic and fear during the shooting, including one from the gunman's mother. adrian brought us reports on what we're learning, and we just want to warn you, you may find some of the video disturbing. we have an active shooter in our building person here now we need people color. the desperate calls from employees who were trapped inside the old national bank during monday's mass shooting in louisville that left five people dead in the closet with one
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person. i hear here comes back. has anybody been shot? yes. how many people i don't know. probably eight or 91 woman can be heard describing the scene as she watched it unfold remotely from another location. you have an active shooter on this site. i just want you to watch it on teams meeting. yes we're having a coordinating the suspect. again. minutes after the first calls came in the shooter's mother called 911 compound. you couldn't have a gun, and he's heading toward the old national at, uh, here in louisville, main street, old national. you have the mother. i'm so sorry. i'm getting detailed secondhand. i'm on it now, my lord. okay and what exactly is going on with him? what he's saying he's doing
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? i don't know. i'm getting this information from the left from who never hurt anyone to really good kids. his roommate called me. concerned please. he he's not violent. never done anything , okay? and you don't believe he owns guns. i know he wasn't only guns in another call, you can hear a woman inside the bank describing the shooter. younger young man. you know the person he works with us. the release of the calls comes one day after police released body camera footage from the first two officers who responded to the scene. back up, back up, back up! back up. i got him down. i think he's down. investigators say 25 year old connor sturgeon was employed by the bank at the time of the shooting, a former classmate, telling cnn. he was a
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varsity athlete in high school and played basketball and ran track, saying, quote i never in a million years would expect him to be capable of such a monstrous act. sturgeon attended the university of alabama and in 2018 college essay posted to the website course, he wrote. he wrote. quote myself. esteem has long been a problem for me as a late bloomer in middle and high school, i struggled to a certain extent to fit in, and this has given me a somewhat negative self image that persists today. making friends has never been especially easy, so i have more experience than most in operating alone. his family says he struggled with depression, but they had no idea he was planning an attack. and a statement to cnn affiliate w. d r b. the family says quote no words can express our sorrow, anguish and horror at the unthinkable harm our son connor inflicted on innocent people,
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their families and the entire louisville community terrifying moments from so many callers. we now know that 25 year old shooter bought that rifle. legally from a local gun shop here in town. meanwhile officer wilt is still listed in critical condition, and doctors say the next 4 to 5 days are crucial for him. adrian broadus, cnn, louisville, kentucky. and kentucky's governor lost a close friend in the bank shooting. he's now advocating for gun control measures known as red flag laws allow courts to temporarily seized firearms from anyone believed to be a danger to themselves or others. here's what he told cnn in an exclusive interview. i believe we can respect and honor people's second amendment rights to protect themselves and their family. but at the same time at least take a step so that we can intervene when we know somebody's about to go out and
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murder a whole bunch of people. red flag law involves the court system. it ensures that everybody's rights are protected . that evidence is heard. it has every check on it that we could ask for. but at least it lets us stop. that next individual, at least when we know before they murder people and listen. i know people will say that wouldn't have stopped. this situation probably wouldn't have maybe it will the next one. i don't want another family go through this. a democratic lawmaker kicked out of the tennessee state government for demanding stricter gun laws after a deadly school shooting has been reinstated. the shelby county board of commissioners wrote it on wednesday to send justin pearson back to the tennessee house of representatives. the republican supermajority expelled pearson and two other democrats, accusing them of intentionally causing disorder and dishonor after they held a loud protest in the chamber motion to reappoint pearson passed unanimously after the board suspended a rule that would have required a waiting period between pearson's
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nomination and confirmation. was political and more personal parts of the us president's trip to his ancestral homeland is now underway. look. you can see joe biden ride in the republic of ireland and was greeted by cheering crowds in county louth , where his great grandfather was born. in the coming day, he'll meet with irish leaders and speak to parliament, while in belfast president and the british prime minister called for northern ireland's main political parties to restore the power sharing agreement and end the stalemate. cnn's kevin liptak is live in dublin covering this so kevin a big contrast in tone to yesterday. so walk us through the day and what we're expecting later. yeah today is really all about meeting with the leaders of ireland. the president the t shock, talking about shared values. but really, this is sort of sandwiched between two days really meant to explore the
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president, irish roots. his ancestry really kind of the reason that he has come to the island of ireland in the first place. and really, that does for so much of his political identity. this identity is the ancestor of working class irish immigrants who came to america looking for a better life. you did see that on full display yesterday in county louth, the president, greeted by thousands of people lining the streets and that cold drizzle to catch a glimpse of the american president. he was so enthusiastic about seeing them, he he questioned why his ancestors ever left ireland in the first place because it was so beautiful. of course they left because of the famine in that president did acknowledge that later in the day he was able to climb the tower of carling furred castle lookout over to newry. and that is the ports that has great great great grandfather, owen finnegan left ireland in 18 49 to come to the united states. and so much of this trip to ireland is really
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about looking at looking to the past. looking to president biden's ancestors, but today really is about the present the present day. ireland which is a major economy in the eu, one of the top economies, and in europe , it's a progressive country has passed referendums allowing same sex, marriage and abortion. until president biden will really want to talk about those values when he sits down with the leaders today, but then tomorrow it is again back to looking past looking to his roots in another part of the country and county mayo, who will speak in front of a cathedral that actually has bricks that one of his ancestors sold in order to fund his family's passage to the united states, so certainly president biden really relishing in his irish roots as he continues this trip in ireland, kim alright. thanks so much. kevin liptak in dublin. still to come. new details on a laundry list of issues and the indiana recycling plant where a massive toxic fire
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owner of the recycling plan. that business owner is fully responsible for all of this. we have the unsafe building order and the recorded court documents. and everything that's ensued here. the fire the damages, the risk that our first responders have taken and the risk the citizens are under are the responsibility of that negligent business owner evacuation orders in place for a half mile radius around 2000 residents ordered to evacuate, including one who lives at the heart of it from the debris that some of it was on fire. and it hit the trees, the tree line and the trees immediately ignited. when she got the evacuation order. she didn't hesitate to leave her home. when they said evacuate. i didn't have shoes on i had socks on and i left my purse. my shoes. i left a lot of things personal things you know at the house and just got in the car and drove away for health officials. their key concern now is hazards from the smoke. these are very fine particles. and if they're breathin can cause all
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people are set to walk off their jobs and march 12th day of demonstrations similar to this one week ago when the schools and businesses plan to close because of thursday's strikes and protests. millions in france are furious over the pension reforms, which seek to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64. and with way macron maneuvered them around parliament. and so when dorn is in paris for us to sarah, so more protesters more trash in the streets, maybe more violence as well. take us through what we're expecting and the political price macron's paying for all of us. exactly kim. you said it. hundreds of thousands of people expected to take to the streets again today expect to see a kind of similar turn out to what we saw last week, but not just protests. as you said, we will see strikes as well. and the carpet collectors have just said that they will begin striking in paris today, and they have a lined up bins in front of the constitutional council, which is france's
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equivalent of the supreme court . they have done this to try and block the entrance to the council and the reason this is significant because tomorrow the constitute special counsel will be voting on the law. they will either greenlighted or they may deem that parts of it or indeed, the whole of it is unconstitutional. if they do greenlighted, the law should go into effect in september, but we'll just have to wait and see what they decide. meanwhile 11,000 police officers are set to be deployed across france and according to police intelligence , we think that that radical minority that violent minority will be once again taking part in the protests. so i think we can expect scuffles again today . now a lot of people are asking what happens after the constitutional council's ruling ? will this mean the end of protests? but a lot of the trade unions have said, even though their respect the council's decision, whatever it is, they will continue to protest. we probably won't see the same
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scale as protests, they will probably be a bit smaller, but they will be happening nonetheless. now, even if they do die down eventually we must talk about macron and how weakened he has been by this pension reform. he is still in the first year of his second term. he's got four years left, and he has ambitious reform plans. but a lot of people are saying, how is he going to push those through when he doesn't have a parliamentary majority and no longer has popular opinion on his side, kim all right. we'll be watching this story throughout the day. saskia van dorn in paris. thanks so much. north korea has fired off yet another ballistic missile, and this one set off an evacuation warning for the northern japanese island of hokkaido. have a look. the siren there. that warning was later lifted with the japanese government said it wasn't a false alarm that that was meant to inform people about possible dangers like falling objects
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long war already marked by immeasurable human suffering now because they're so graphic cnn has made the editorial decision not to air those videos, but we're about to show several still images from them which are obviously disturbing in their own right. cnn's ben wedeman has our report. in a war not short of images of brutality and horror. two videos purporting to show acts of unimaginable barbarism. too gruesome to air in this series of still frames a man wearing military fatigues is seen using a knife to cut off the head of another man in army uniform. the victim is seen wearing a yellow armband typically worn by ukrainian soldiers from the voices on the recording. it seems the victim was still alive as the beheading began, the perpetrators, identities also hidden, but he's seen wearing a white tie on his leg. a means of identification often worn by russian fighters.
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ukrainian authorities say they're working to uncover where and when the incident might have taken place, as well as trying to establish the victim's identity and that of the other men in the video. this is something that no one in the world can ignore, says president zelensky. how easily these beasts kill this video of the execution of a ukrainian pow the world must see it. ask about the video during the daily call with journalists, the kremlin spokesman acknowledged the footage was terrible, but added a caveat. first of all, said spokesman dmitry peskov in the world of fakes that we inhabit. we need to check the veracity of this footage. at about the same time. another video also emerged on social media, this one believed to have been filmed in the last few days purporting to show the mutilated bodies of two ukrainian soldiers lying next to
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the destroyed military vehicle. voices speaking in russian claimed the soldiers had had their heads cut off. images on the video appeared to show the soldiers hands and also been cut off. russian social media posters said the video was shot nearby mahmoud in eastern ukraine, scene of the war's fiercest fighting, but cnn is unable to confirm the location. the united nations said it was appalled by the videos but 14 months into russia's full scale invasion, reiterated these were not isolated incidents found that there have been significant and violations on both sides, summary executions, torture and so on, and we call on both parties to the conflict to hold the perpetrators to account. one ukrainian intelligence official says he knows the motivation for the release of these videos to frighten and intimidate that at
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a time when ukraine readies its forces to launch a major offensive aimed at driving russia out of the country. wedeman, cnn, eastern ukraine. ukraine's president says he will never forget or forgive russia for what he called war crimes. cnn's wolf blitzer asked the country's prime minister about the videos serious. do you believe that putin himself is responsible? absolutely his responsible for crime of aggression. so he made this order to go into a head on the ukrainian territory and made all of this crimes war crimes which russian army made in ukraine is making right now on ukrainian territory. consider these work work crimes, absolutely its crimes against humanity and from my side estimate this like genocide of ukrainians, people because they kill, not just pricing this of war, not just ukrainian military service and
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but they kill civilians. many children more than health 1000 children are killed by russians in different ways. all right, let's go live to london and cnn's claire sebastian. so first claire take us through some of the reaction to the horrific beheading. yeah i came so despite the fact that those videos are we haven't shown them but you can tell from the stills pretty hard to verify. one is blurry. the other has very few sort of location features, which would make it possible to jeolla katelyn polantz ability. full investigations, including from outside ukraine, a spokesman for the eu, saying this should be fully investigated. but if it is proven to be russia committing these crimes, this is yet another brutal reminder, she said about the inhumane nature of russian aggression inside ukraine, stepping up calls to ostracize russia, dmitry caliber , the foreign minister, saying this shows russia is worse than isis, saying they should be
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kicked out of ukraine and the united nations, something that they have been calling for us. russia assumes the presidency of the security council, ben wedeman pointed this out, but interesting to note again that several ukrainian officials have pointed out that it's not just about the crimes shown in these videos. it's the videos themselves that russia may be looking to extract propaganda value from the one official with president alinsky's office called a site up a psychological operation designed to stoke fear and intimidate, although she did say that that was not going to work. as for the kremlin, that reaction, saying that you know the veracity of the videos needs to be checked that very much tallies from what we continue to see from russia when it comes to exit, for example, to the trustees in boots to the kremlin , continuing to claim that the images and videos coming out of also fake. so that is something to watch as the investigations into this continue just just horrifying. and then, um, claire
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russia's new laws that make it easier to draft soldiers. so what exactly are they doing? and what could it mean? yeah, this is a law that's now passed. both houses of parliament still needs to be signed by vladimir putin. but this essentially makes it easier for russia to call up new soldiers by adding an electronic element they used to have to hand the draft notices in person . now they can still do that. but there's also an option to do it electronically by uploading the notice to a person's account on a government portal. this removes friction, obviously the kremlin saying that it has nothing to do with a second wave of mobilization. which, of course, there's been a lot of speculation about but it would make it easier if that were to happen, and there are other measures that they brought in. that would also make it much harder at him for russians to avoid the draft if they should be called up. lord, i appreciate this. claire sebastian in london. thanks so much. on the white house is moving into high gear with its plan to put more
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health benefits and by our look at the proposal, it is going to reduce over eight gigatons of emissions and to put that into the context for your viewers. it's that's equivalent to 85 coal fired plants operating for the next 30 years. the pollution being eliminated from audible, so it is one of probably the biggest reaction today at the u . s. has taken on climate emission. yeah, that would that would be hugely significant, but there there seemed to be significant barriers in terms of public adoption. i mean this week, a gallup poll found 4% of americans currently own an e. v and only 12% are seriously considering buying one and maybe , most importantly, 41% say they never would. so. so a huge barrier there, the
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