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at that point, because when you have such a close vote in the senate, then you do need to have all the votes. there are people maybe gone. talk to center. fetterman today is in great spirits. he's coming back monday is doing so well. people sometimes are gone and both republican and democratic side, including senator mcconnell, who is also coming back. we know that but you can't leave the seat vacant for that long. he announced. he's coming back on monday, but the shingles is incredibly painful. we think of that, but if she can't fulfill her duties on the judiciary committee, she's temporarily stepping aside from that. do you have confidence that she can continue to fulfill her constitutional duties as the senator from california? well i'm hopeful that you can again. i want to see what happens in the next month or so. we you give her that time to be able to come back. but if she can't come back month after month after month with this close senate that's not just going to hurt california. it's going to be an issue for the country, so we take out the word she's coming
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back. let's see what that date is and what they tell center schumer, but for now, she really made the right decision to step aside from the committee as a member of the committee. i know we have a number of judges and we i have bills legislation. that we have to what we call mark up and get through the committee. all right, senator amy klobuchar at a time tonight, but thank you for your time tonight. thanks for joining us. thank you. to all of you. cnn tonight with alison camerata starts right now. hi alison katelyn polantz so much. good evening, everyone. i'm alison camerata. welcome to cnn tonight . the national guard airman arrested today for the fbi for that alleged leak of highly classified pentagon documents was just 21 years old. his name is jack to sheriff, and he's describing the washington post as a lonely but charismatic gun enthusiast who was allegedly the leader of a chat room on discord. that's a social media platform popular with gamers. we'll have more details on this in a moment. but does this story give us some insight into what's going on with young men who spend a lot of time online plus
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you know, we ring the artificial intelligence alarm on this show often well, the latest frontier is creating fake versions of famous people like this completely fake joe rogan interviewing a completely fake donald trump. how you doing, mr . president jo, it's great to be here. i'm doing fantastic. just fantastic. the energy in this room is tremendous. that's great to hear. so, mr president, i gotta ask you are you a fan of the ufc? joe let me tell you. i love the ufc. it's one of the most exciting sports out there. it's not for everyone, but if you're a fan, there's nothing like it. okay we'll play more of that. and mike rowe is here tonight to share his deepest, darkest fear about a i and the raging controversy over beer and baseball. as the games get shorter. some teams are selling beer later and tonight. one major leaguer is not happy about that. now you're putting our fans and our family at risk driving home with people who
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have just drank piers 22 minutes ago. we'll get into all of that. but let's bring in tonight's panel we have with us and we'll goldberg, star reporter of the new york times we also have our pal and tv star micro star of the daily show jordan klepper and startup cnn, sherman park. suppose great to see all of you. okay jordan's can we start with this first? let's let me just show the arrest today. the dramatic arrest of this 21 year old who had access somehow, all of these classified documents and the fbi descended upon his home. he was clearly surprised he's not dressed for an arrest like this, and you know, you can see this show of force, and i just wonder. do you see this as an anomaly? or do you see this as saying something bigger about a 21 year old guy who's on discord online talking to fellow , you know, gun enthusiasts ensuring all these secrets. i mean, it's heroin images. it's it. it's hard, you know as information still coming in i
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don't want to weigh into heavily about who this man is. i do think, though, get a chance to talk to a lot of people out there and i see young men struggling in this country. they're not doing great in school, not doing great with jobs. uh, when i talked to people at rallies i go to i see this whole this this space that is needed for both community and for meaning. and so, hearing stories about people who struggle during the pandemic. finding communities online. um perhaps looking for that meaning , looking for that sense of purpose and finding that in wayward places, it hurts when you're fed grievance, and then a washing misinformation, and so it feels like if those were part of the part of the soup that this came out of, it makes sense. you have a sense of why young men are struggling. well i mean, i think it's tough out there right now. i think there's a lot of loneliness. covid didn't help any of that. they're not getting good, clean information you can escape. i think i know what it's like to be a teenage boy. i remember it. i wasn't very good at it, to be
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quite honest with you if i had an escape in my basement where i could have somebody tell me that i'm good at something that i belonged to something else, and then we can seek out information that could make my worldview seemed like the ultimate worldview. i would lack curiosity to expand that worldview. i would double down and things are already thought i felt and i tried to impress those closest around me and i see that in our kids these days , and i think if you don't have a culture that makes an effort to try to support those kids, and instead you have a culture that might prey on those vulnerabilities and might flood them again with this misinformation. that's a tough time to make sense of the world. you know, i think that you're hitting on something. and shimon 100% absolutely because the people who described him he not only had a purpose he was the leader of this group, and they describe him as charismatic. let me just play for you. one member who wanted to be anonymous, but talked about how you know they saw him as their sort of fearless leader. so listen to this. of course, there's some anti government set sentiment, but that's not unlike most right
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wingers in the modern day and age was not hostile to the us government. however he had disagreed with several occasions such as waco and ruby ridge and thought that the government is overreaching in several aspects refer to him as o g. that's that was his name online. he was the leader. i mean, i think jordan hit a 100% he was the leader of this group gave him a purpose. he puts this group together around the pandemic, and then sometime after that is to get them more interested in him to get him more interested in what he has to say he start sharing this information, according to his friends, or now it's former friends, and he's sharing this information. and so this group is formed on discord and the name of it is. i think we just had it up on the screen. it's called a thug i had in mind. i know it's thug shakers center. role is the name of this group. and he forms this group. he's running it. he's the leader. it's about 20 to 30 members, and it's all about video games at
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first, right, but there's a love of guns. there's they're talking about racial issues, his anti government views and so this is all starts around the pandemic, and he starts feeding them information. so what he's doing is he's sitting in this room, perhaps on the military base where he has access to all of these classified intelligence bulletins and information about the wars and what the military is doing, and he's sharing all this information. and they're like, wow, how cool is this? but then, at some point, they're like we don't want to know about this. we don't want to, and he's gets upset that they're not interested. and so he kind of gets tired of writing all this down, so he starts taking photos of the information and then from there, it all starts to unravel and what he thought he was. just sharing with a small, tight knit group of friends, his followers . the people in that group started realizing what they had. and they started sharing it outside of that group, and that's how all of this starts to unravel. mike, how do you say
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it? down with jordan's, you know, it's the meaning thing. you know, i think, look he did a very bad thing. he shared classified documents. go to jail . go directly to jail. you're not gonna pasco you screwed up. um but the fact that he was 21 the fact that he liked guns, the fact that all these other things . i don't find them personally to be a dispositive. you know, i spent i spent a few weeks not long ago on a on a nuclear aircraft carrier and i got to hang out on the bridge and i was talking to the captain who is younger than me. who went around the room and introduced me to the guy in charge of the nuclear engines who was 22, the woman in charge of the entire mess, right? like 5000 people. that ship was filled with 21 year old gun enthusiast. right so i just be real careful about painting with a broad brush. the only
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thing that i would take from this that i'm comfortable saying globally. is the meaning thing. the young men today feel untethered and unmoored and older men i'm afraid aren't so different. nick eberstadt has a great book where he talks about. it's called men without work. 7.2 million able bodied men in the prime of their life not only not working, but affirmatively not looking for work. we have never seen that in this country outside of war. never in peace time. have we seen this going on? so i'm not saying there is something about the screen? there's something about the search for meeting. but there's not much that i can say about a 21 year old gun enthusiasts. and i don't mean to suggest that because he's gonna enthusiast, he became a national security risk. i mean that this is what bonded them on discord. this is what that well, why these guys came together. they like military equipment. they like gun. i saw one, um, report where they liked god and then i also
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saw some reports where it said that they engaged in racist names. so whatever i'm just telling you what they found in their connection, not that any of that means you would still nuclear secrets. whatever nationals, of course, but look you put it on the screen. and people look at the screen. and people's brains. they they'll find what you tell them to look for, and they'll start to connect the dots. go back. two weeks. look at nashville. the transgender shooting well, wait a second. we don't want to connect any dots there. i don't think we should write, but it's interesting what we put on the screen and it's interesting what we hang on to. i do want to say. i mean, i think we do need to think about the platform. i mean, discord is a platform that's been called like a cousin of four chan, which is a hotbed of conspiracy theories of q and on and this isn't an isolated incident. discord was connected to the shooter who went into a grocery store and buffalo and killed 10 people. it was connected to the united right rally. so this is a platform that has been a hotbed of conspiracy theories of racist memes. and still with the
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platform is relying a lot on on to flag problematic content is just individual users to a large extent. so that's you know, i think another troubling issue that we need to examine here. it is interesting that his friends on there are now speaking out because there i guess troubled but perhaps their troubled perhaps, um, they didn't realize how bad this was. and maybe somehow they're trying to save themselves and not that they're that they have any kind of issue to worry about. but certainly there is that. i'm sure some of them are worried about it. but the thing about this is that look yes, it's a huge embarrassment for this country, because i mean, where else does this happen? right? what other countries do we see this and we've had so many instances of this, but what's different about this guy is that when you look at snowden or you look at chelsea manning, you know they had a purpose in their mind for why they were doing it. they were doing it because they wanted to wrong or right they were doing for some kind of social justice. this guy is just doing it to be cool. um you
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know, he's got these friends sitting around and that's what's kind of a little confusing. and i think that to your point about what is going on in his head and others, um, that's what makes this so strange accepted as these guys have said, it makes perfect sense. if you're a 21 year old guy who wants to impress your posse that, you know, i mean, not that not that everybody commits crimes, but you can understand the impulse of wanting to impress them. i think there is something to you know the conspiratorial mindset. i'm not saying that was this. this this man? can mindset, but i do know there's something spent some time in that world. there's something special when you feel you know a secret. somebody else doesn't know. fact, man, that is exciting, quick thing to we're all i think reasonable people on international tv. we're not going to say anything other than this is a very bad thing that happened, but out in the world over a beer. people sit down, and they start talking about snowden. or maybe chelsea manning. or maybe jeffrey wigand . who the insider right with big tobacco. where erin brockovich, right, so what is a whistleblower? what is the leaker? you know they patriot or
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a traitor, right? the conversations. i think that i bet will go on after this segment are going to be let me lick my finger and stick it in the air and see which way the wind is blowing, and then i'll decide how to feel about the sky. people i night talking to friends today watching the video of him being arrested. people actually feel bad for him. um you know, i had a couple of friends who said to me i actually feel bad for him because there's also video that of him sitting in his yard before they have, like the news helicopters and the reporters had already been at the home just as the fbi was arriving, maybe even before, and there's video of him just sitting in his yard. looking over. some paper also just raised the question of why does the 21 year old who was you know by all accounts like, um, an i t guy quiz he really was, but still why does why is he able to have access to our national? he's a systems engineer. he's making sure those systems on those computers that they're using to transmit this
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information. this is a base that deals with drones overseas. this is a base that deals with cybersecurity and all kinds of spying, right and intelligence work. he runs those systems and so he has to have access to this information. the question is, how is he vetted? of course, and what is going on at the pentagon and this is really bad for them for the pentagon. this is really, really bad. alright friends. thank you very much, shimon. you'll be back in our next hour, along with other reporters to give us tomorrow's news tonight. okay and coming up next, more freaky artificial intelligence fakes that sound very real and micro shares his deepest fear if he is. like to speak to customers to speak to a customer service representative . i'm sorryy i didn't get that tentative. try again. i'm sorry , sonny. come here. you need a hug. there you go. you also need consumer self talk to a real
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let me tell you. i love the ufc . it's one of the most exciting sports out there. it's not for everyone, but if you're a fan, there's nothing like it. again that was entirely fake. joe rogan responded to this ai generated podcast, saying, quote . this is going to get very slippery kids. i'm back with my panel and joining us is moceanu , new host of the mojo news podcast. great to have you here. okay, so, mike, this really worries you? oh, yeah, i look, i mean, in general, you know, i've read about the luddite rebellion , and i know about the fear people have of new tech and i know what happened with the gutenberg printing press. and how entering the eighth tried to burn them all to stop. you know, so in general, i'm not worried about big tech. this this worries me to death deepfakes. worry me the ability. to take fraud to a whole new level is just shocking. somebody's already, um, taking liberties
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with your likeness. not even with this crazy tool. but five years ago, my dad sent me a note asking me about my problems in the boudoir. you you were in a fake ad. well, a real ad, but a fake you and i believe we have it in an ad about erectile dysfunction. so that's my picture. that's really me, but it's not just an ad. it's an interview with me. that i didn't do somebody just made up and it sounds like me talking very candidly about my inability and my frustration is shooting pool with a broke, right. i mean, it's a ridiculous and they get into all these details and some of its kind of funny, but overall, it's deeply humiliated . your dad calls you at home to ask you questions like that you're doing with that. so i take a deep dive and i find the thing and trying to get it removed from the internet. i mean, it's truly like a game of whack a mole if you'll pardon the pun. right i mean, it's just pops up everywhere and you knock
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it down. so look, that's six years ago. this bold new world if you the fraud that's happening online right now. identity theft in and of itself . what is this going to do to that? it's going to be an accelerant, i think unlike anything we've ever seen in rogan's right, it's not going to get slippery. it's slippery. now how are we ever going to know what's real? that's the problem , right? we already have a problem with truth in this country and in this world, and this is only going to reinforce that right like we, as journalists will find clips of, you know, politicians saying something now they can be like that was that's a i no way that was me. so there are real ramifications. you know, the russia china summit that happened recently in moscow. among the things discussed between she jinping and putin was a i how do we lead the world in a i and you know now i think here in the us, the bad administration has said the commerce department is opening it up for comments for the next 60 days. all of us can right into the commerce department
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right now, for our thoughts on a i that's where we're at the italians. meanwhile a couple weeks ago, said we're pausing chat gpt in the country. it is banned until you fix some stuff. the italians are far ahead of us in terms of dealing with this, so there are real things happening and then detect companies are like we're not stopping, the microsoft ceo this week, said full speed ahead on chek gpt. why would we stop if you want to regulate us regulate us? so it falls on the government, like many things, to put a pause on this potentially jordan your likenesses out there. have you ever been the subject of a humiliating ad campaign? i would take it gladly . are you kidding? the residuals on something like that? also, i'm crestfallen to know that erectile dysfunction interview isn't true. listen i mean, maybe there's a world where, like you speaking candidly about this kind of thing is the micro that we want that maybe the technology is projecting a future us the kind of person we could could become if we become open with ourselves and willing to share with other people are deficiencies are inadequacies, you know, theoretic to slough
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soon it's going to take time for us to become comfortable. with the new reality that we're about to be born into you for all that very touching. emma have you been the subject of an embarrassing uh, advertisement? never, and i don't want to tempt fade. um, but i do think it's i mean, it's really scary, uncharted terrain. one of my colleagues at the times recently published a full transcript of a chat he had with beings. ai chatbots, who he asked to tap into its shadow self and it suddenly started trying to break up his marriage and profess some really violent fantasy. yes we interviewed him. it was so creepy. the thing took on a life of its own and was like you love me more than your wife. don't you leave her? what was that? like a snap like it was like, oh, no, don't ask me to do it. and then all of a sudden it was like, never mind. okay like we're going there and i think that just shows like we're already there like yes, we need regulation, but i think we also need to teach individual people how to recognize when they're
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dealing with, you know, fake material, fake interviews with my like i don't know how we're ever going to teach people to do that. just me. hey silver lining. i think she's i think she's right. if you believe as i do that the crisis of credibility with our institutions. has to get a little worse before it gets better if you if you believe that the individual has to embrace a new level of skepticism and thought then this will be a wake up call because the default is going to become not well, of course. they're telling me the truth. why would they lie? the default is going to become well, of course they're lying. why would they tell me that? the people who need it the most are the most susceptible like the most easily duped. of course, they will believe this without skepticism . i have faith that some unfortunately will never come around. but many many will. we still have an opportunity. i think to challenge the fat part of the bat in this country. most people should look at everything and anything. with a grain of salt, right? they should. they
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should be more skeptical. i believe that joe rogan thing that we just played with donald trump. that sounded sort of robotic. i mean, that one. you could be like something's not right about that, but they're going to get better. they're going to be better next week. next week, they'll be better going to do to porn. oh, my god . thank you for bringing that up going to do. i'll tell you what it's gonna do, because it's already doing it. they're taking famous people. your next. they're taking famous people and putting famous people. into pornographic videos and situations. that is, what technology is for. this is of course, that's what we're doing, but you guys have been doing working really hard on the daily show for years. it's like ology. when i was 13. i was visualizing a reality where i was seeing famous people in pornographic images. here it is. finally here , america greatest country on the planet. people are going to fall in love. they're going to fall in love with us cipher. absolutely already did was the movie her? yeah that were there who knows anymore really turned
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into the joker so we can get dark. quick is now it's happening. all right, folks, thank you for all of that. we'll be right back. so m many migrans complaining about how this was nothing like the easysy route ty were promised. one of the world's most dangerous journeys , people clumping together, perhaps fearing for their own safety women, children risking their lives for a better life reminder of the violence faces migrants here every day. the whole story with anderson cooper premieres sunday at eight every sunday one whole story one whole hour on cnn. allergi don't have toe scary. defeat allergy headaches fast with new felonies , headache and allergy relief to pills relieve allergy headache, pain congestion that causes it. headache and allergy relief. all good daughter tells us you're in
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vogue at the supreme court, and this is cnn. hundreds of thousands of people taking to the streets in france today to protest the government's plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64 in paris alone, more than 40,000 people protested some as you can see, clashing with police officers. smoke bombs, projectiles, tear gas were all used there and fired in. my panel is back with me. emma. people really don't want to work two more years, not in france in america. they're like, bring it on. i mean, i do think there's a lot of reasons why what's going on? there is so distinct to france. why one being the fact that they do have a very different relationship with work life balance than americans do. i mean, all you have to do is send an email to a european person in august to know that like they really take vacations seriously, but i also think that the prospect of raising the retirement age in america is a very different ball game. because the elder the elder population is to a large extent
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, lower income, lesser educated doesn't have the health and ability or life expectancy to work as long as you know in some other countries, so the prospect of raising the retirement age in order to ensure that people can access all those benefits. it doesn't necessarily gain out politically or economically. here's some stats from gallup for us in the us, the average retirement age is 61 limited. so security benefits begin at 62. life expectancy is 76. mike what's the right age to retire at? i mean, retired. from what i mean, i can't i like what i do. i work every day. my work life balance is a joke, but i, but i really do love what i do. and uh, my foundation. you know, we have the scholarship program and we call them work ethics scholarships because i think it's an important part of the conversation. i don't care about france. i don't know what to say. 6 to 64. that's out of my lane. but here you know, we've got scholarships for academic
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achievement for athletic achievement. scholastic artistic you know the idea of rewarding work ethic and talking about it as a thing you can consciously choose to show up early to stay late to do all that horatio alger stuff and nobody wants to hear about anymore, but it's still a really important part. i think that goes back to the first segment to why is that kid sitting there looking for meeting? you know? what does his desk look like? at the end of the day? you know the people that i work with by and large they know how they're doing all day long. you get a dirty job, you get constant feedback, right ? constant feedback because you see the product of what you're doing. you see the results of progress, right and so not to go on a rant about it, but good grief. i mean, that's that's the problem. 62 to 64 to i. i'm sorry, i think in this country right now. the biggest issue is the war that we have declared collectively on work and the way we've turned it into the
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proximate cause of every single ailment. that we have, and i think it's silly. i'm not. i was just gonna add. i do think that exactly what you're talking about. i think that the kind of disaffection and dissatisfaction with labor right now is feeding into this. it's we're seeing that in the us with the great resignation, uh, with you know, all sorts of trends in which people are rejecting labor conditions that they don't want or like, and i think we're seeing that in france about the right quiet, quitting and working from home and what is it? mail it in monday's now or whatever. they're never heard that before. i'm gonna it's trending on tiktok. but the problem we have is that our pension system, so security is based on young workers, right? that's the entire calculation. the problem we have in france, it's 1.7 young workers for retiree in the us where 3 to 1 right now, so like we're great compared to them, and so they're running out of money for their pension ears. and by the way, when you're in france, a quarter of your life spent a retirement the average retiree in france
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richer than the average worker. so that's why retirement is such a big deal. they're fascinating . go focused on retirement. i think i've been working hard so i can retire and stop working as fast as humanly possible. average age of retirement for comedian comedian. you quit your improv class at 27. that's what that's what they tend to do, and i get it. i agree with mike and i understand that i couldn't get all the way through horatio alger. but i do think i do think to me a product. active society. we should be working towards a four day work week. we should be working towards working less. it's amazing that we're working as many hours as we did 80 years ago. what is progress for if you can't have margaritas at four o'clock. that to me is the evolution we should be working for, and i do think there is something i think it's an interesting conversation around the first segment and that that sense of meeting and i do think work. work gives you a sense of pride in what you do, but i think you have a younger generation that has also been sold larger institutional lies and they're finding themselves upset by not being as fulfilled
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in some of the jobs that they have, or in some of the missions that they've been given. and so i do think it's a delicate balance, but i wish we could have an open conversation in this country about how work is something you can do. to spend more time with the things and the people that you love and sometimes ambition is seen as just a virtue, as opposed to google's excuse for you not to feel bad. not being home with your toddler. what do you think? mike look, don't give me one of these, mike. yeah? yeah i was your age we go. no look, i mean again. i don't think i think the danger is singing from the book of platitudes. i think what you say makes a lot of sense for a bunch of people, and i think it's exactly what another bunch of people really don't need to hear. it's like telling. it's like telling what we did it. we told an entire generation that the best path for the most people was a four year degree. at the same time, we took shop class out of high school. the result of doing that is $1.7 trillion in outstanding student loans and 11.5 million jobs that can't be filled right now that don't require four year degree.
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ergo, we continue to lend money we don't have two kids who are never going to be able to pay it back training for jobs that don't exist anymore. of course they're miserable. right so, yeah, the bigger issue in my view starts with work being a four letter word. why are we so why? why are we trained? to run from it. and why are the portrayals on on tv over and over and over? look at a skilled look at a plumber will get you 10. he's £300 with a giant butt crack hanging out, right? that's what we're trained to see. always the punchline of a joke there always somehow subordinate. a trade school has turned into some kind of vocational consolation prize. it's the thing you do if you can't do this, right, so we got our thumb on the scale, and we've created a lot of these problems on our own work ethic, all by itself is not the problem or the solution, but it's an ingredient indicate. do you like the idea of a four day work week? i'm not opposed to it. i mean, it depends what i'm doing
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on the other three. to be honest with you. i'm not sure retirements that great. most people i know who are retired. i look at him. i kind of admire the idea, but i don't i don't much envy their life and the other thing at the risk of sounding all classes and stuff is can you afford to retire? i mean, if you can, then it's none of my business. fine get out of it. but again if we've got policies in place that are affirmatively, encouraging more people to work less than we're gonna reap some sort of whirlwind. some download we sorry, wheelhouse. by the way, i'm sorry. that was talking up all this like an argument for like a. i all right now is that it can be it can it can help accentuate people who need an assistant need that knowledge based need need an accelerant who might not normally happen. it might be a privileged at its best form. it may be privilege for folks who don't have those types of privileges to do work better, and i wish that would have more conversations about doing work better, so our life isn't work or work helps give us
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life. that might have been a platitude. i know you don't want me speaking from those felt you sold it in a rich, well modulated baritone. i'm hanging on everywhere. martian last worked to mike's point. i'm the son of a cabinetmaker grew up in his cabinet shop. we have a shortage of carpenters in this country. we have church of plumbers in this country. we've charged electrician's in this country, and there needs to be a respect for that work. and by the way, my dad recently retired i would love to be working full time still trying to figure out what to do in retirement. give him my regards watching. thank you very much, and be sure to stick around for the top of the hour because our favorite cnn reporters will be here to dive into the stories that they have been covering, including the one and only harry antin, who's got new polling that shows more americans are fed up with defining themselves by their jobs. but first how much are you willing to pay for a piece of nostalgia? what about $28,000? that's what one rocky vhs tape got explain next. there's a new
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called blockbuster and you got to go rent a movie and in an effort to capture that nostalgia, one person purchased a factory sealed copy of rocky for $27,500. at an auction, and that was not the only high ticket vhs tape for sale. my panel is back with me now. okay $28,000 for iraqi vhs who would buy it? who would pay? no, i retired in this scenario getting the french retirement package american garment bag. um i feel like i have a rocky vhs somewhere at home that i could just go find and sell. that story is just sending everybody to the vhs collection to be like i have one in here if i can get 500 bucks, right, i'm rich. i'm gonna go home and look, but okay, but it's about nostalgia. obviously so who would you? are you nostalgic person? no, but years ago, i worked at q v. c and i sold dubious things in the middle of the night. really that's funny because we have some tape of that shortly. have a clip of that. let's take a
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look. that's not cool. the sixties or the seventies. well when we're lava lamps hot jeff, sixties or seventies. look at that hair, your hair. not sure i'm not really sure, either. they seem to be a part of our culture. often imitated. the lamp is a little warm. not unlike lava. oh so my god, mike , what's happening? there was fired three times from q v. c that's not easy. well i did take it apart to really see what made it. you know if there was real magnet fired? no no, no. there were many other stories. the point is the collectors on q. v c coins, stamps and dolls. right people collect things. yes i've heard in droves like in ways that i never really totally understood and it is. it's not just nostalgia. the germans have a word for it, um, virtual malts , so it's sentiment combined with nostalgia often times for a
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time or period that you didn't actually live through, like. that's why some people of the standards right today the music of the forties and fifties. anyway okay, i feel you're distracting us. there's so much to unpack in that q v c thing from the lava lamp to your hair . yeah people waiting to wait right? we don't have time. gentlemen are you nostalgic? not nostalgic. i think nostalgia's like mushrooms, you know, like i should do it every once in a while for a fun trip. but if you do it all the time, it'll wreck your brain. i mean, i love revisiting the past. i just think we are a culture that is so obsessed with it. i have a little kid right now. and it breaks my heart that i know he's going to be a star wars fan. and i like star wars as a kid, but like for that story to take up the mindspace over 40 to 50 years, it's like, can we not be writing new stories like why can't my child have a new story arc and not have to be told the same saga around potter? what harry potter harry potter? i guess he could have harriet.
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that's a whole new, complicated issue as well. now to have to explain jk rollins and why she's dying on this cross. it doesn't make any sense, so i think that's where i can get up like super mario brothers, the number one movie in america. today. great. i'm glad we have such a plethora of new stories to tell nostalgia, but i have i love history, a history nerd, so i actually in our in our home, we have life magazines like classic life magazine from the fifties and sixties, which is very cool, like showing the like. very cool . thank you, george. it's a thing. it's definitely definitely a thing. okay well, so i have a thing a thing. that's it continue, and also as a chicago sports fan collecting kind of the front pages of the very few championships. that we've won through history. yes we had net jail. actually that's right. pygmies i remember that was hot. and emma. are you nostalgic for, like, 2018 like what? what is the stale dress? early early, aughts clueless. i would buy a clueless vh as we
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have that for girls. 50 bucks. no can i pawned it off for more ? i don't know. that's awesome. i am very nostalgic, very nostalgic person. today even before i knew that we were doing this segment i wore this sure into end to work just because i wear this shirt and i brought it up from my closet to show you guys like this is how nostalgic i am that i still wear stuff like this. yeah yeah, i mean, okay. you remember the rumor that went around kiss? what what did what they said it stood for nine nights in the service of satan. it was it was. it was total ai nonsense. before there was a i was a i true nice shirt. thank you. all right. stay tuned . some major league baseball teams are extending beer sales, but not everyone is on board, including one phillies pitcher. we've got the booze news that's
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the beer sales back to the sixth inning to give our fans time to sober up and drive hold. instead we're going to the eighth, and now you're putting our fans and our family at risk driving home with people who have just drank piers 22 minutes ago. i'm not surprised, matt. but you're not surprised either. when you mess with billionaires dollars, they find a way to make their dollars back. mhm back with me, jordan, klepper and micro your both your drinkers? yes. indeed, you too, mike. you know i'm doing the carb thing, but i've been known to enjoy that. we're putting our cards on the table. i do struggle with gout occasionally. so yeah. i mean, mike and i are really cool with beer. the chafing? yeah. but yes, other than that, you have just dudes who like beer. got it? um, what is the right time to stop drinking beer on any night because that's what they're debating. whether it's the eighth inning, the seventh inning, the sixth inning, when should people stop drinking
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their beer? i mean, that was first of all, that's the most sensical man in philadelphia. i have ever heard great head of hair. let's be honest, really lovely following baseball game i am drinking all the way through the baseball game. i'm not. i've gone seventh inning i bought multiple beers have taken them back to my seat because i'm shot. that i've actually stated a baseball game through seven innings. you need the beer to get through the facebook. need the beer to get through the baseball games. god bless. i love all your baseball players, but boy, i need a little help. mike i actually do love the game. it's one of the few sports i actually played growing up. i have a great fondness for it. not terribly good at it, but i do enjoy it more with a couple of beers. i think the serious point to be made. if there is one is that he seems to be assuming that everybody in the stadium is a what's the word child, a child incapable of regulating their own intake of alcohol incapable of arranging for a ride share situation incapable of really applying any
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