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said he found help saying i kept talking with his counselor. he helped me a lot, not just being a better basketball player being able to deal with it. but being a better partner. better father . better brother better son. better person being not locked into myself being able to give people what i feel, because at one point i was trying to get away from everybody. and that's not me. i'm very social. i like to interact. with other people. i tell you what guys pretty powerful to hear, janice, uh, say that kind of stuff. i'm sure it's going to help others, and he actually has a foundation in his father's name to help others when it comes to mental health as well. very good love that so much remember simone biles and so many more athletes now feeling like they can speak out and so many people that look up to them taking the stigma of mental health issues. yes yes, that's great, andy. thank you. thanks this morning continues right now. the justice
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department arrested jack douglas , d shera, believe that he's the one who leaked that trove of secret documents online was a deliberate criminal act, the number of categories of information involved here and the timeliness is hugely concerning. i don't want an abortion. don't have won. florida governor ron desantis signing one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country. beating heart is how our society defines the presence of life. how many more women will get hurt. in the meantime, the meantime, matters here. we value life from conception to the casket is going to be a reckoning. members hope you don't get caught up in it. san francisco police arrested a man in connection with the murder of the founder of the mobile payment service. cash app. mr lee was murdered by somebody that he knew. this is a case
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with the man that lost his life that deserves justice. the former president, testifying under oath for nearly seven hours, is part of a civil lawsuit led by new york attorney general leticia james, despite donald trump's mini swirling legal issues, he is now suing his former attorney, michael cohen, for $500 million purpose of this lawsuit to harass and intimidate. the streets of france. sorry, i just got a full load of tier guys. crucial ruling is expected in france and whether the pension reform law will stand or fall. don't think in the history of the republic, we have seen so much rage so much hatred, president yeah, we're in the middle of a very busy news cycle. very busy friday. yeah, very busy friend but just in general at pascoe past couple of weeks. good morning, everyone. caitlin desantis we welcome you into seeing in this morning this morning, the fbi arresting a young, low ranking air national
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guardsman for the massive league of top secret pentagon documents online today, 21 year old jack to share. um, is set to appear in federal court for the first time news helicopters capturing the moment. an fbi swat team arrested him at his mother's house in massachusetts. you see the video right there on your screen, and you can see to share a walking backwards with his hands on his head before agents take him into custody with their guns drawn to share a was an it specialist for military intelligence unit on cape cod. us officials tell cnn that he was also the leader of a small, private online group of video gamers. where hundreds of highly classified us intelligence documents were posted before they spread on social media is telling cnn to share it was under surveillance for at least two days before his arrest, and the fbi did not want to raid the house because they were concerned about him having guns soon as jason carroll live outside of the federal courthouse in boston as we wait
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for the suspects hearing good morning, jason the fbi apparently wanted to arrest him at work yesterday, but he did not show up right. right and so they had very little choice at that point, then to go to his mother's home and died in in south of boston and take him into custody there and as you had mentioned, don, because there is this issue of guns being at the home. you can imagine why there was heightened worry in terms of being able to take him into custody, which is why it bears worth showing that video again. of late afternoon yesterday when aerial cameras were above as that moment took place when he was brought into custody, hands above his head walking backwards, step by step until he was finally into custody taken into custody without incident again. here's what we know about jack to share a he's 21 years old. member of the massachusetts air national guard airman first class his
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duty title, cyber transport systems journeymen. he entered the guard back in 2019 september 26. once again he was a leader of that online chat group on discord where they shared mutual interests and gaming and guns. also sharing racial memes as well. and, according to federal officials, sharing classified documents as well. all i spoke to one of his classmates. this is a young woman who knew him not only in high school but knew him. in middle school as well that they had a class together and history class. and don. she said that often times he made other students uncomfortable when he talked about his interest in guns. a lot of people were worried him, especially since he was really into the whole guns thing. uh um , and spoke about it quite often , and i know it was kind of off putting to some people. yeah.
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yeah and john when i asked her if she was surprised at all about his arrest, he said, no, not really. because she said this was someone who she remembers was always interested in sharing any sort of information that he had, whether whether it be about history, guns or other subject matters as well. so again right now we wait for jack teixeira's initial court experience court appearance, which is expected to take place here at the federal courthouse later today. jason carroll joining us from boston. jason, thank you so much. let's talk more about this we've seen in senior justice correspondent evan perez. evan good morning to you again. gosh where do we begin? how did they mean? i guess they narrowed it down pretty quickly to find him because of discord, right? right narrative down pretty quickly because the members of this group are obviously had already been talking to the media. some of the members shared some of the documents that they had seen , obviously, and the washington post says that there are as many
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as 500 documents going far back as far back as eight months ago. at first he was he was posting just, you know, summaries that he typed out.nd then got frustrated that they weren't paying attention to group of gamers that he was talking with and then started sharing the documents themselves. photographs of some of the documents, which he appeared to be photographing in his family's kitchen. what what's clear, though, and what we're going to see emerge in the court documents that that we will see today is that you know, at least from the perspective of the justice department. this guy is not somebody who was like a whistleblower. he's not chelsea manning. he's not edward snowden , who were trying to blow the whistle on what they viewed as as as government wrongdoing. it appears he was just showing off. well yeah, and not only the question is why did the pentagon grant access to such a young sort of low ranking member but also why the new york times was
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at his house talking to his stepfather? before the feds showed up. i know they were surveilling the home, i just post and the wall of the washington post and the new york times. no no. and even some members of our our team. we're chatting with some of the members and we're trying to trying to figure out how to get to him. so the fbi started. you know, the investigation began on friday. pretty quickly they realized where they were needed needed to look and they started interviewing some of these guys . you know, for the for the fbi, they need to figure out how to build a case and a case that can stand up in court. and so you know from, you know, covering these cases. it's just pretty quick work from the fbi. i know. sometimes it seems they take forever to do these types of things, but, um, this shouldn't be concerned by that. yeah, i think i think based on when they started and how quickly they got to him pretty quick, but they should be concerned about how he had access to these. but my question is how did he get them out if he's photographing them
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in the kitchen, he carried these documents, and that's the weakness printed them or whatever. so yeah, the systems again since snowden and since chelsea manning they have been billions of dollars spent on making sure that your computer systems log who accesses documents. you know, when you print documents, there's a watermark on them. it appears in this case, he simply printed these things that he had access to thousands of people have access to these to these reports were prepared for some of the top generals. he folded them in fours, put him in his in his cargo pants and walked out the door. that's the weakness of the system. it all depends on the people you entrust with the secrets. that's where the failure here is crazy. yeah heaven thanks very much reporting to be continued. lots of discuss. thank you. evan perez. so another story. now, after fierce debate yesterday, the florida house passed a six week abortion ban for the governor. ron desantis signed it into law last night, replacing
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the previous law, which banned abortion after 15 weeks. watch. we are creating a death sentence for women and i will not support this bill as a physician. i find this still to be scientifically sound. keep your sanctimonious opinions for your own family and stay out of mind. it really is that simple. we value life. or we don't under the new law. most abortions in florida would be banned after just six weeks, victims of rape, incest and human trafficking could obtain an abortion up to 15 weeks into a pregnancy but would have to provide evidence of those circumstances. it would also ban doctors from prescribing an abortion via telehealth and require medication. for abortion be dispensed by a physician, not by mail. we should note that, according to doctors, some women don't even know they're pregnant until after six weeks, so
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joining us now david chalian, cnn political director in the host and cnn, political briefing , podcast. good morning. thank you, sir. obviously here to talk to us about the politics of this governor is likely going to run for president. it's no surprise that he signed this, but is this an issue that he talks about? in florida and his meetings with gop groups giving speeches and we should note also, the state supreme court needs some action here on the on the 15 week band before this six week, ben can actually take effect in florida , but to your point about governor desantis done. um we have seen him sort of champion. a lot of the legislative work he has been getting through in florida. this is something he doesn't shy away from, obviously , but it's not something that he puts front and center the way he does his battle with disney against what he thinks is woke corporate culture the way he puts the education agenda, where
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he thinks public education in florida sort of run amok when it comes to the teaching of race in history and gender identity, sexual orientation, so he has put other battles much more front and center in his sort of pre campaign travels around the country. then he has this six week ban. i mean, just take a look. he was in ohio campaigning yesterday, he got back to florida. this law got signed at 11 o'clock at night or so that's not usually when a governor would sign a law if you want to maximize attention here again, i'm not suggesting anyway, he shied away from it. i just think he understands. that there are sort of primary politics at play in general election politics point. i mean, it's a tight rope. that he is clearly walking . i do think it's so notable because it elevates again into the spotlight, the role of judges and all of this when you look at you mentioned this florida supreme court, desantis has appointed a number of even more conservative justices to that bench. and so now that court, which is traditionally
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protected the right to privacy in the florida state constitution, meaning to protect the abortion rights. there may view it very differently now. without a doubt, which is why i think most people think this is going to go into effect this six week ban that desantis signed. i do want to note here on the politics of this a six week ban is not, um, broadly popular among republicans. if you look at a lot of the pulling out there, it kind of splits republicans. now it may be broadly popular. with the iowa republican caucus going electorate or those that participate in presidential primaries in some key states like south carolina as well, but republicans broadly are kind of split on something like a six week ban. overwhelmingly it's not that popular when you talk about the american public overall. so while desantis clearly believes this will help with some key portion of the republican primary base i think he is no doubt aware that when
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you're talking about a general election if he is indeed the nominee that suburban women in places outside of detroit or milwaukee or phoenix in these key battleground states independent voters, this is precisely the kind of thing that can make it harder for republicans to woo those voters to their side. he's boxing himself in well, can we talk about another one of the potential contenders, right? you know this exploratory committee that tim scott has launched. he announced that he formed this committee that was earlier this week. but he has been really struggling to kind of defined his message and his platform on abortion. in interviews, finally saying this to a local reporter, this is in new hampshire on thursday. watch this. i think six half to solve that problem on their own. the big problem that we see today is that are democrats want to make this a federal issue of having abortions into the third trimester? that is something that puts us in the company of china and north korea. we cannot go there, so we have to have a federal limit on how far we can
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go. and that is something that we have to discuss that 20 week. ban reached your desk. would you sign it? 20 week ban, definitely poppy sitting here saying no, i'm just david. i was just pointing out that that is not the position of most. democratic lawmakers that abortion can be until the end of a pregnancy. disappointed fact there versus wade was 24 26 weeks, exactly and most democrats say, let's go back to what roe v. wade had in place. you noticed tim scott support of a 20 week ban there. his fellow senator from south carolina, lindsey graham, has introduced legislation for a federal national 15 week. ben he is not yet fully gotten on board with that, though he says he is proudly and 100% pro life when he is out. on the campaign trail you're going to see throughout this republican presidential primary process. there's going to be a debate within the gop and you can start hearing it. i mean, tim scott is in a slightly different place now than is ron desantis then is mike pence, who told our wolf blitzer a couple of weeks ago. he just
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would like to see abortion completely banned, so there is going to be a debate inside the republican party as they court primary voters about where they want to position themselves and then i think we'll have to see if republican primary voters consider general election electability in their thinking, and then you have republicans who are saying that the gop is out of step with what most americans want so they, you know , there's a clash within the party. so the next question then david has to be okay. then, if you if these if this is a policy you support what are you going to provide in terms of health care for those mothers and for the children and what support after birth? as well. what comes a question those states david? thanks very much. thank you guys. former president trump testifying under oath again and a civil case that is threatening his business empire. but this time around, things were different. we're gonna break down what we know about his deposition in new york. did you ever stress about us having three kids? i was always part of
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donald trump spent nearly seven hours here at the new york attorney general's office in manhattan. the former president sat for deposition is part of a civil case brought by new york state against trump some of his children and his falling business empire. air louis, cnn political commentator and columnist for new york magazine is with us now. what i find most interesting about this is that he didn't plead the 5th 400 plus times like you had previously answered some questions. i wish i knew what questions and i wish i knew the answers. but yes, we all wish we knew that and there's a reason by the way that he did not plead the 5th 400 times the way he did in his previous deposition, at least that's what we're hearing. and the reason is that you know, in a criminal case, you have the right to remain silent. don't have to say anything. you can sit there from the beginning of the trial. to the end, and you cannot draw any negative influences from that jury is not only can't this is a civil case. just the opposite if you sat there, when charged after charges is revealed to you, and you just sat and said nothing of future jury, if it should come to that is allowed to say, hmm.
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there's something fishy here and so it was not in donald trump's interest to remain silent or to plead the fifth over and over and over again. presumably the attorney general heard a lot more information from yesterday's deposition, and you heard what he had been saying about leticia james, calling her racist and so on and so forth. according to sources she was in the room for part of the time. i wonder what that was like. oh, that must have been fascinating. actually interestingly enough, she sat in on at least part of the last deposition, and apparently, there was a certain amount of charm and cordiality between donald trump. if you know you've dealt with him, i mean, he's you know in person, even if he's about to cut your throat. there's a there's a certain amount of graciousness. there's a certain kind of wildly charm that that that that comes to the fore. and apparently that happened before now. i don't know if that happened yesterday. things are getting a lot more serious problems for donald trump are really starting to let's talk more about the problems for donald trump outside of this probe, right? because this is civil, um caitlin really fascinating interview with former attorney
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general bill barr, who was during the trump administration and this this really struck me what he said about how um, caught the president, maybe legally, how much of a challenge he faces in the in the obstruction. part of the mar-a-lago probe here is that they draw bond them for a year and a half. they did subpoena him. and i thank the real question. there is not whether he kept the documents and had them in mar-a-lago so much as once this was raised with him, and it was clear that he was being asked to return the documents as the government's property. the games were played for quite a long time, and i think that that exposes him. against bill barr saying that exposes him well, this is somebody who knows the federal law for sure, and he's talking about something that is always in an issue when a federal investigator, fbi department of justice official sits you down to talk with you, even if it
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seems like a casual chat, you must tell the truth. failing to do so gives rise to an independent offense for which you can be prosecuted, and it's relatively easy actually, to sort of prove that, even if parts of any kind of underlying of fence are a little bit harder to get to. so bill barr is just sort of speaking the obvious truth, which is that you know, even if you had a case to make about well, i accidentally took the boxes. i wasn't clear on the law. my advisors misled me. you can say all kinds of different things. but then when it's brought to your attention that you have to give it back if you start moving boxes playing games , delaying an obvious skating and lying to federal officials, apart from anything else, that might have been true. now you've got a real legal problem, um, one of the things that bill barr said in the interview that you know donald trump's problems were of his own making. and i was like, well, duh! that's stating the obvious. as you just said, it's obvious he he creates his own problems and then blame other people for them. you know, it's interesting, big because what i what i have seen as a
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pattern since the time that i've been watching him closely is that he takes commercial standards that served him and his trump organization well, at least financially for many, many years, and he tries to apply it in a different context. and then you get into a lot of trouble, you know, like valuing your property is one way for the tax authorities and another way for the banks is standing at more favorable loans. he's done that you've done that for years, but there's a point at which it can really get you in trouble. he has, you know, sort of shaded the truth. shall we say or, you know, dared officials to come after him? he's bullied and intimidated people. he's not paid his his lawyers and his contractors. all of this kind of behavior, and a lot of it is now coming back to sort of haunt him because in a different context, that can either be of legally problematic or it can really just turn people off and you start to lose allies. and i think both of those things are happening to nothing gets at him more than trying to take some of his money or talking about how you know that he doesn't have as
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much money as he claims he does. leticia james suit is seeking $250 million and then advance his ability to operate a business in the state, so that would be huge. well, that's i mean, look, that's a that's a death blow to the organization, saying that neither he nor his adult children there's three oldest adult children in new york state. that's that that would spell the end of the organization. thanks very, very much. have a great weekend. good to see you. man accused of killing cash. app founder bob lee will appear in court today. what police say about the stabbing and why they say it was not a random street crime and this jury selection continuing in the dominions billion dollar lawsuit against fox news to tell you what the potential jurors were asked, like their opinion on the my pillow guy. that's interesting. introducing a revolutionary automatic drip coffee macachine. brewed fresh. hot or iced. true brew by
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desperate moments following his attack, caught on surveillance camera as he searched for help. veronica miracle live in san francisco with the very latest on this this morning. good morning to you, veronica. police didn't give further details about the connection between the two men. but what do you know? well done. that's right. police are staying pretty tight lipped , but we have spoken to somebody who actually worked in the same office building as moment trying to just learn a little bit more about him because police are also not talking a lot about the suspect, and this person said that moment is actually very bright, very kind. also very generous with his time. the district attorney now says many faces 26 years up to life in prison. nine days after the stabbing death of cash app founder bob lee in san francisco . mr li's killer has been identified, arrested and now will be brought to justice. the suspect, 38 year old neema momeni, was booked on a murder
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charge early thursday. we are confident in the evidence that we have found so far, mr momeni is our focus and the single suspect in this case online profiles identify him as an it consultant and police say lee's murder was not a random act. we followed the evidence and there's a lot of evidence and the evidence shows that they knew each other. the final moments of robert lee's life were captured by surveillance video posted by the daily mail before the police had access to it, according to the police chief. and show the 43 year old tech executive in the early morning hours of april. 4th suffering from stab injuries and looking for assistance, screaming help, saying someone's death me advise he's bleeding out. this is not about san francisco. the murderer sparked renewed outrage over crime in san francisco, frustrating local officials. this is about human nature, like many homicides are many murders are and could have happened anywhere. the district attorney expressed frustration that the city was unfairly
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maligned in this case, calling out a tweet by elon musk, reckless and irresponsible statements like those contained in mr must tweet that assumed incorrect circumstances about mr lee's death served to mislead the world in their perceptions of san francisco. and also negatively impact the pursuit of justice for victims of crime. the mayor assured constituents that combating crime is a top priority. that is our goal to make san francisco a better, more safer city for each and every one of us, but the police chief said their first priority is finding justice for victims and their families. we have to keep the bigger picture in mind that this is a case with a man that lost his life who has people who love him that care about him that deserve justice. among many faces a murder charge but also a special enhancement for allegedly using a knife in this attack, according to the district attorney. he's going to be in court today, arranged this afternoon here in san francisco.
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don veronica will be watching. thank you. the trial for dominion voting systems $1.6 billion case against fox news will get underway monday with opening statements. the judge in delaware started vetting jurors yesterday. court is out of session today, but that judge said he has more than enough potential jurors to be seated for a final panel on monday. dominion voting systems is suing fox news for defamation, arguing hosts on that channel falsely claimed the company's voting software flip to millions of votes away from former president trump in 2020. fox denies any wrongdoing. marshall conferences again live this morning wilmington's delaware. fascinating we were wondering how this jury selection process would go. sounds like it went pretty smoothly yesterday. so how are they picking these jurors? since everyone knows what fox news is? good morning, poppy. they made good progress here in wilmington's at the delaware superior courthouse right behind me. they started
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with 300, delaware residents summoned to the courthouse to basically whittle it down, one by one. they want to end up with 12 jurors. 12 alternates more than usual. but the judge said in such a high stakes case, he does not want any potential for a mistrial. so some of those questions that you mentioned it's pretty interesting. jurors were asked if they have an opinion on rudy giuliani if they have an opinion on mike lindell and sidney powell. those are three figures that are a huge part of this case because it's what they said on fox news is broadcast in 2020. that is what dominion thinks was defamation. jurors though you can't ask them. whatever you want. there were some limits there. the judge would not allow questions about january 6th. the judge would not allow questions about the legitimacy of the 2020 election. but that wasn't a problem. they made good progress . they're going to pick things up monday morning now poppy unless there is a settlement over the weekend, which is always possible. that means the
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jury process will finish monday morning. we'll expect opening statements. it's going to be a huge day. it's going to be a huge six weeks. that's how long they're expecting this trial to last we really appreciate your coverage. it's going to be so important to watch especially what it means for, you know, journalism large marshall thanks very much. what happening today ? the 21 year old national guardsmen accused of leaking highly sensitive intelligence data online will appear in federal court. we'll talk about why he even had access to this information and punishment could he face if convicted. so many migrants complaining about howow this was nothing like the easy route they were promised. one of the world's most dangerous journeys, people clumping together, perhaps fearing for their own safety women, children risking their lives for a better life reminder of the violence faces migrants here every day.
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spent a lot. you know, i have a lot of respect for them. but the new york times beat the fbi to this person right? and the reason that serious is because what if he has suitcases full of documents, and he's in the process of sort of sending them out, mailing them out, faxing them out. what if he hands all those documents to the new york times now we've got sort of an interesting constitutional issue. and so you know, i'm still as you can tell, not exactly a calm about that fact, that was congressman jim himes, speaking to jake yesterday. he, of course, is a ranking member on the house intelligence committee with a lot of questions like we all do after the arrest yesterday of 21 year old aaron, national guardsmen, jack to sarah, the man accused of leaking hundreds of classified military secrets online to share a is expected to appear in federal court in boston this morning and connection with removing and transmitting. classified national defense information that is a crime under the espionage act. let's talk about this with bradley moss. he's internally an attorney who specializes in litigation related to national security. he's also the deputy executive director of the james madison project and a law partner at the offices of mark zaid. good to
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have you, bradley. first question i had is the fact that you know this is different than , for example, chelsea manning or reality winner with a where there was a real intent to broadly distribute right. the sat online for like over a month without people outside the group knowing i just wonder what you think the motive could be, then. yeah as far as we can tell, and obviously we only have the initial reporting. we don't even have an indictment yet. we certainly haven't seen all the evidence that would come out if this went to trial, but as far as we can tell, this was a 21 year old kid showing off and bragging to a bunch of other gamers in a discord. chat this wasn't like chelsea manning. edward snowden reality winner who deliberately we're trying to disseminate it to the media. it doesn't change anything for purposes of criminal liability. there was still a deliberate act . he still took the classified documents he still violated the espionage act as far as i'm concerned, but it could be a consideration at sentencing when
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deciding how much prison time this guy could face. okay right . and that is if indeed he is found guilty in the question is in what court of law? will this be a military court? will this be a federal court? just listen to what bill borrowed, the former attorney general told caitlin last night. i'm glad that he's going to be tried in the federal court system rather than court martialed. uh, and as evan was saying, i think the eastern district of virginia is the perfect place to try this case. thank you. what do you think, bradley? well, i agree the sense that it should go through the federal system. this most prosecutions of with withholding and sorry and this mishandling classified information. go through the civilian courts. they handle it just fine. and the protections are there just like they would be for anybody else. i don't necessarily know if i agree with the former attorney general about the eastern district of virginia. i don't think it
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necessarily would have the jurisdiction. i think it might be in a different courthouse. but whatever district court handles this, it's going to be a rather clear cut case. as far as we i can tell from the existing facts. as far as i'm concerned, this guy should be looking for a plea deal and, you know, minimized. sentencing you are a specialist when it comes to national security law, and we heard president biden. over the last 24 hours or so, downplaying the damage of the leak. right and i understand it's different than wikileaks, for example, but it was still top secret, highly classified real time information about the war right now between russia and ukraine, for example , so i wonder how you think a damage assessment can actually be made? sure so there's going to be a rather extensive after action report that the original agency that created the documentation as well, as are the other agencies that had equities had interest in it well all partake in determined to what extent sources and methods were undermined, determined to what extent they have to recalibrate how they gather some
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information. if those sources will now have dried up because of what was exposed, but the greater concern for me is how did this guy get the information in the first place? even with his top secret security clearance. i don't see why he would have had the need to know what this particular documentation and it wasn't supposed to be able to be expelled. traded like that. so what needs to change? then? first on the fact that he could literally it appears. you know if he did this, print them out, fold them and take them out of this facility where he was working overnight at 21 years old, a guy who'd just been promoted so physics like, how do you actually stop that from happening, but then also how much do you need to reign in? who gets this intel? yes so the first part is that that second part of your question, which is raining and who gets access to it, because having the clearance is one thing. all kinds of people have top secret clearance to many people have that clearance right or well, and that's that's that's. that's one thing is one having the
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clearance, but to why would they have a need to know this particular information? just having the clearance doesn't give you access to everything at top secret. it's supposed to be compartmentalized. was that properly done here and in terms of the documents themselves? how properly were the protocols put in place and enforced when it came to handling and printing and removing documentation. there were all these reforms after chelsea manning and edward snowden. they were supposed to be put into place to prevent this. to what extent did those protocols break down here? that's going to be a subject of oversight. that's a great point. bradley moss really good to have your brain on all of it this morning. thank you for your expertise. absolutely good morning. you two done. 100,000 nurses have left the workforce, citing pandemic related stress and burnout. our very own. dr sanjay gupta is speaking with two nurses who are fighting through it for the sake of their patients. they're going to join us live there they are liable to screen will see them right after the break, and also miami police go beyond the call of duty to rescue a toddler trapped in a
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of the sinking car is a three year old boy trapped in his car seat. like i was dying much for me before the child lived a little, but he had just turned three. the father, orlando barone says he lost control of his car, trying to avoid an oncoming vehicle and then crashed into a canal. even as police arrived, he refused to leave his son's side. that's what i saw when i got there. it was the father trying to hold onto his child, saying he can't get the kid out of the water. miami dade police officers responded to the scene. officer emmanuel walter immediately dove into the murky waters multiple times each time coming up empty handed. every time he would actually come out and he wouldn't come out with the baby . it did worry us. minutes later, officer walton somehow located and freed the boy. eventually i felt the baby seat. the car seat. and i pulled it as hard as i could, because i couldn't figure out where the seatbelt was or anything of that
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nature. luckily, it broke off. the childhood was able to the top of the car. extricating little christopher from his car seat was only half the challenge . after the third set of cpr, he pretty much threw up the water that was inside his stomach. okay baby, officer junior carville says he thought of his own son as he attempted cpr over and over again. emotionally it was the worst day of my life, but also the best day of my life officers, all of whom are fathers credit their teamwork for beating the odds in a canal where they've seen most accident victims lose their lives. fathers that day. they answered the call to that being their own. remember when i was going to the hospital with the kids and left my gun belt? i left my shoes. i was in back of the ambulance like a normal civilian. it wasn't really about when my job it was more about, you know, seven the day i felt like more of a human human being
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. marvel police officer honestly . cnn atlanta. i love that completely. yeah but those are the real heroes, right? 100% let's talk about some other heroes hailed as frontline heroes during the pandemic. now nurses are leaving the profession. the numbers are really alarming. nearly 100,000 nurses have recently left their jobs, citing pandemic related stress and burnout. this is, according to a new survey by the national council of state board. boards of nurses roughly half of the 50,000 nurses that they surveyed say they are emotionally drained their fatigue. they're burned out our very own chief medical correspondent and neurosurgeon practicing neurosurgeon, dr sanjay gupta's with two nurses from grady memorial hospital in atlanta. dana matthew and savannah weaver sunday. i'm so glad you're there. take it away. i'm really excited to introduce you to dana and savannah here in a second, but you know, we want to talk about this because these numbers are concerning 100,000
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as you mentioned nurses that left during the pandemic. 800,000 more are expected to leave by the year. 2027 nurses are the backbone of any hospital and those are concerning numbers is about 5.2 million registered nurses in the country just to give you some context. about half the nurses say they're leaving because the workloads have just become untenable. about half say it's just very emotionally draining, so the work has become harder. both physically and mentally, for sure, and that's a lot of what's driving that, but no, no people better to hear what's happening. then the both of you, dana and savannah. thank you were colleagues. i've been here for some 20 years. you guys both started sort of in the height of the pandemic. yeah dana, when you hear these numbers, first of all is that does that surprise you? no, not at all. i mean, during covid. it was probably the most stressful times of my life of most of our lives. i've seen my colleagues. a lot of them left. a lot of them felt uncomfortable and scared to harm
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their family members. and you know, that number doesn't surprise at all. correct by just transmitting taking home something. so it's pretty accurate. doesn't surprise me. i know you told me earlier. it doesn't surprise you as well. but when you think about this, do you think there are solutions out there? i mean, like, what? what needs to be done? well, unfortunately, unfortunately, burnout is very real. um i think the job we work in is very stressful. um i tell all new nurses coming into the field to take time for yourself outside of work to not pick up over time, despite the pressures to do so, when you're working in the hospital, i think during covid. a lot of people were doing more and more requiring more of them more time in the hospital traveling going to contracts that were again requiring a lot of right being right and exposed to the virus. and i just tell people to take your time when you're when you're a new nurse to not pick
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up over time, if you don't if you can and try to reduce the burden of that, as i mentioned i've been here over 20 years now, so i feel like i've really got a sense of this place. do you feel supported savannah by the leadership? i mean, if staff to patient ratios, whatever else to make the job easier does it happen? i feel that my biggest support is definitely my coworkers. um and the unit. i work in the sick you it's a lot of camaraderie and people pulling together when you need help. um first, our leadership has changed a lot recently. there's times when you feel supported. there's times when you when you don't but but again , it always just comes back to who's right there next to me, and that's always my coworkers. which is why i've stayed in it for so long. i love working with people and stick your greedy um, yeah, with nursing and respiratory therapy, all different departments. i should point out as well done, and poppy that about, you know, when you look at these numbers of people leaving the majority of them are people who have had 10 years or more experience, but
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increasingly, the percentages of people who are younger. i mean savannah's five years roughly now, three years here roughly, you know you're getting you're getting an idea of the types of people who are in the profession and what may lie ahead. sanjay. i don't know if you remember during the height of covid. i went to my hometown. uh hospital. the hospital. i was born in baton rouge and interviewed patients and nurses and doctors. and just the number of them who said that they had they had to deal with. not only would they what they were dealing with with seeing people but their own mental health issues, right? they had their own concerns. so i'm interested for to you, young ladies. what can we do to help, which are the people who come into the hospital or the people who can help you? what can we do in order to make the situation better for you? yeah i think most of all, it's just feeling that appreciation that understanding that we are human
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. you know, during the heart, it can pandemic. i mean, i was pregnant. i was, you know, nine months pregnant, running the halls going to codes doing what i could. i literally left work three days before i gave birth was the whole time still being there for patients, and i think just feeling like people understand that we also have lives but also that our main purpose for this nursing career is to be there for our patients. it is something that we truly truly love. and you can't be in this for them. and you can't be in this for anything other than just the love of what you do. and i think our patients can see that they can feel that and i think just making sure that we know that we're appreciated and we get that here greatly. luckily our leadership i know, you know, in the trauma unit that i work on. we really do get that kind of appreciation and staff engagement and it helps us a lot. yeah. did you? either of you ever thought about quitting? i mean, personally? no i mean, i
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thrive in this environment being in the hospital and the chaos and the and everything and i love what i do. i love working with new nurses and you know, seeing them flourish, especially the ones that came into the hospital during covid at the height of covid. i would like to say a quick not to child, kelsey and ian and staff and tiffany and all these nurses that came in during a time, half jesse donny that came into such a difficult time and just have flourished and such a challenging environment. um but that's again one of the reasons why i love what i do. i love seeing them and supporting them . i love that. you know, i just you guys never miss an opportunity to thank people. and you know, people should thank you more as well. i gotta tell you don and pop. if you want to know people always ask me about a hospital like that a good hospital. if you want to know about a hospital, how it works. what happens inside the hospital? the intricacies asking eric nurses. they know how these places really work. and they i'm
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