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documents and the validity of the images posted online and assessing the damages from those disclosures. the president goes on to say he has now quote directed our military and intelligence community to take steps to further secure and limit distribution of sensitive information, and our national security team is closely coordinating with our partners and our allies. the pictures you are seeing there is jack the share of the suspect as an image of sketch of him being arraigned in court today first quarter appearance. president biden at the moment, wrapping up a visit to ireland visiting the knock shrine for the second catholic president. it's a holy and important place. locals say they saw an apparition of the virgin mary there back in 18 79. later today, the president will visit a genealogical center in county mayo, an area where he has family ties. he wraps up his trip with his speech, and bolena, whose us sister city is scranton, pennsylvania. that, of course, the president, hometown. thanks for your time and inside politics. hope you have a safe weekend. abby. phillip picks up right now. hello and welcome to
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cnn newsroom. i'm abby phillip in washington to very serious charges for that 21 year old air national guardsman accused of leaking a trove of sensitive classified documents online. you can see there jack to share as parents outside of the courthouse this morning in boston. there, son was in shackles facing a judge less than 24 hours after he peacefully surrendered to a swarm of heavily armed fbi agents. prosecutors revealed today that to share a had a top secret clearance since 2021 that he allegedly leaked the alleged leading began long afterward in a online discord group. the pentagon says that this was a deliberate criminal act, and the new court documents show that members of that chat group gave the fbi information that could be key to making that case. cnn's natasha bertrand is at the
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pentagon, natasha so lay out what the charges that he's facing our yeah, abby, so he did appear in court in massachusetts this morning, and he was officially charged with two separate counts here. the first is unauthorized retention and transmission of national defense information, and the second is unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material now these, of course, relate. to the allegation that he removed sensitive and highly classified information from his place of work, which was the air national guard in massachusetts, the intelligence wing of the air national guard there and then he allegedly posted them on this private social media platform called discord, where dozens of people who were not authorized to view these documents were, of course, able to view them and we're told just in the last few hours a couple more details about what actually he was doing in the air national guard and why he had access actually to these top secret documents. we are learning from the fbi affidavit that he had a top secret clearance and that he has
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had that since 2021. in addition to that he had sensitive compartmented information access so that basically gave him access to some of the most sensitive intelligence programs in the entire u. s government. and the reason why he had this is not necessarily because he was dealing with this highly classified information on a daily day to day basis and needed to know the content of that information in order to do his job. he was actually more of an i t. specialist and he was tasked with keeping these classified networks kind of operating so the risk that he could be exposed to this highly classified information is why he was given such high clearance. now the question is, is whether he actively sought out the specific documents on these systems in order to leak to his friends in this group chat. or whether someone else gave them to him or who even printed them out. did he print them out himself? so many questions still being raised about his motives and, of course, about his background. what how did the military vet him and was that
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vetting appropriate, abby? yeah lots of questions there on that exact point, natasha bertrand, thank you very much. and the president just issued a new statement. in part, it reads, quote. i have directed our military and intelligence community to take steps to further secure and limit distribution of sensitive information, and our national security team is closely coordinating with our partners and our allies. now let's bring in our former director of national intelligence, james clapper. director clapper. many of our viewers will remember you were the nation's spy chief during the edward snowden leak that was one of the biggest in u. s history. i wonder what do you think this case is in comparison to that? well i mean , you know, i don't know the full extent of the current breach, but from one over, seen and read. i don't think this is nearly as serious as the revelations of edward snowden both in terms of volume because
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he potentially exposed millions of documents. that were much more damaging, uh than, uh, this leak so and by comparison, i think, uh, this serious no question about it. any leaks bad? but and it's unfortunate we have a history of this sort of thing to make comparisons, but i don't think this one is as bad yeah. president biden said yesterday that there was in his words nothing of great consequence here, but i think the question a lot of people have is about the information related to the active operations in ukraine. this war between russia and ukraine. are you concerned about information there that could have real implications for the ground war? well absolutely. um because in this case, uh, lives are at stake now. the upside if there is one. is that this, uh such data? a tactical in nature is
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going to age off quickly. and from what i've read, the ukrainians have already taken some measures to mitigate or the effects of the of the revelations. so here i am concerned about it, but, um the big thing is, we're sources and methods, uh, revealed or which could be back engineered. let's say by an adversary such as in this case, russia and i don't really know the answer to that. but i think again if there is an upside, it's a such tactical data will age off over time. yeah so, uh, what do you think? i mean, some people have described this individual jack to share a as a whistleblower, but usually that requires some kind of process that this was released in the in the public interest. do you see a whistleblower motive or some kind of other motive here? oh no, i don't and you know, this
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is the old saw about one man's leaker is another man's whistleblower. i don't believe that was his motivation at all. unlike edward snowden, who claimed to be, uh, whistleblower , i don't hear that from this this case. i think his motivation appeared to be simply ego. um also comment. abby that taking measures to restrict access, restrict dissemination and do those kinds of administrative things is important. but i would point out that the our clearance system is based on personal trust. and unfortunately we've had violations of personal trust. in the past. we have one now and no matter how many mousetraps we installed 24 to preclude such breaches. we're going to have violations of personal trust in the future. yeah i mean, i do understand that, but i think one of the things that is raised by
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this case. is that this, uh this man seemed to have a little bit of a troubling background. this group that he was in a we're sharing racist memes. there's a video of him shooting weapons, making anti semitic and racist comments. it does seem to raise the question is the clearance process which is very intense for top secret and tsc. i, it's really intense, but is it catching? king individuals who might be more susceptible to doing something for ego reasons that would jeopardize national security. i mean, yes. yes, the $64 question. um the clearance mechanism is built. puts a lot of emphasis on initially granting or not clearances where it's weaker is in the follow up monitoring and surveillance of people's behavior. so when he was granted a clearance, a top secret clearance in 2021 there was a judgment made after looking at his background, which
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wasn't all that long given his youth. is education had any encounters with the police and a judge. any end? subjective judgments made paid. you know this person is adjudged to be sufficiently trustworthy to be granted a top secret access. when changes occur, and attitude or behavior. that's where the system is, is a little weaker. now the clearance system is going to a system of continuous evaluation where hopefully you would catch this and the other issue this raises its is access to social media. classically. it's been okay for quitters authorities to look at publicly available social media but restricted chat rooms and the like restricted groups on social media, particularly on obscure platforms. that's a tougher problem, and you do get into then some significant civil reason. privacy issues on just
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how intrusive the clearance system will be authorized to be so the these are not easy issues. if they were, they'd have been fixed a long time ago. exactly and this clearly is it's almost like whack a mole here. it only takes one person to create a major security breach. james clapper. thank you so much good to have you on this story. and now, for the legal view, we have former federal prosecutor elliot williams elliot, what is your reaction to the charges that jack to share a is facing here? they're reasonable charges . abby and the way they've broken up the charges is it's two different types of conduct, in effect, number one for mishandling defense information information that could hurt the defense interests of the united states and then number two mishandling classified documents merely mishandling classified documents or keeping them when you know you shouldn't can itself be a crime, so the same conduct can be charged two
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different ways, and that's what prosecutors have done here. what do you think he could be facing in terms of sentencing? well that that defense mishandling under the espionage act that first charge i talked about would carry a 10 year maximum sentence and that could be charged for every document or instance they're they're classified documents charge would carry a five year maximum. now look, no one is going to get the statutory maximum. that just doesn't really happen. but you are looking at potentially years of time in prison at the high end if an individual were to be convicted of a crime like this so the court documents say that the fbi interviewed another individual in this chat group right, and the person said that the suspect had become concerned that he may be discovered making the transcriptions he was literally transcript transcribing the text in the workplace. so that's when he began taking the documents to his residence and photographing them. ah if they know all of that, at this point, that seems
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pretty. i mean, do you see any possible way out a defense here for the suspect? there really? isn't abby. look people lied. people's memories are spotty. but the internet does not and, um i p addresses and login times and messages that people send often can lead a defendant to being convicted, and that's certainly going to and that's certainly going to happen here. but i think what seem to point in that direction now, which it's not a defense, but certainly at sentencing. he can make an argument that look, i wasn't attempting to harm the united states. what i thought i was doing was something righteous. and i don't have a criminal history before and maybe a sympathetic judge might give him a slightly lower sentence under the federal sentencing guidelines, but that's not a defense to the crime and individual who faces a tremendous amount of evidence that's electronic evidence sends a pretty decent chance of getting convicted or avoiding a conviction all altogether and simply pleading guilty in the hope that he might get a lower sentence. and what about the
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other people in this group? so it seems like the chain of events here was that this was posted in a smaller group, and then eventually some people started to disseminate it more widely, could any other people in that discord group face charges if they were part of that process. absolutely two things would need to happen. they would need to know that the documents were either bore classification markings or number two. we're cloud of military information that could be used to harm the united states and it the mere fact that mr teixeira seemed to have indicated the others and it was military information or that they were documents that he shouldn't have had seems to suggest that anybody who heard that message would have known the same information, too. so they, you know, it's they may not have known exactly what they were doing. you know, there's been a lot of talk about the fact that just a bunch of kids on the internet for but at the end of the day they were still knowingly. possibly in receipt and transmission of serious classified documents. so anybody
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who knew what they were doing could really be charged with a crime here. all right, elliot williams. thank you very much for breaking all that down for us. thanks, daddy. and new today we are hearing from the family of wall street journal reporter evan gersh covic. it is the first time that they are speaking publicly since russian authorities snatched off the streets and accused him of espionage. that was more than two weeks ago. the wall street journal has released exclusive video clips of its interview with his family, and here's a sampling of it. i trusted him. i trust his judgment. of course, it makes things more difficult for me now, because i feel feel that i've failed in somewhere. father. it was just like crushing totally crushing that experience. wall came back from the soviet union having fun that that was his was his thing. he always had questions about. questions about everything. so
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live drone footage of south florida, where record rainfall in historic flooding have wreaked havoc in less than 24 hours. more than 25 inches of rain have overwhelmed the area that is six months of rain in just a single day before lauderdale hollywood airport is back open today and cnn's leyla santiago is there for us. so leila, how are things looking down there? at least it looks a little dry. right and rain has gone away. and that is good news for folks here in fort lauderdale and broward county and something else. that's kind of nice to see. we're actually seeing those planes taking off and landing from the airport. far from what we saw just 24 hours ago when there was historic flooding here in this area now we are still seeing some delays. given that there were delays and cancelations over the last day or so, but the good news is that we have seen passengers coming in with bag and hand and they're heading out . so that is a big development.
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as of today, i want to show you from the sky, though what it looks like right now. an aerial view of what some of these neighborhoods out there are still seeing. we were talking to neighbors today, one who said it is a disaster in his home a little bit more good news. well the water receding. we started to see that early on this morning, but we are expecting to see rain, this afternoon's of neighbors were a little bit want to clean up given what could be coming this afternoon. now we don't expect it to be anything like what we saw earlier the historic flooding, but there is some hesitation and, you know, neighbors looking at to see what will happen, given that the ground is still very saturated from all the water that came down when we talk about damage, the school's broward county public schools were closed here today in the schools say that in their initial assessment, which by the way didn't include about 30 schools, $2 million in that
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preliminary assessment when it comes to the damage that this took the toll that this took on broward county here in south florida, so a lot of good news in the sense that the brain has stopped, the water is receding, but there could be more rain and we'll have to wait and see the toll that takes, although we don't expect it to be anywhere in the same range of what we have seen thus far, abby yeah, and leila as you were talking. i mean, we could literally see on this drone footage cars trying to pass through these flooded roads and basically kind of getting stuck. the roads are it looks like at least several several inches of water standing water in some parts so the water may be receding, but that damage is still going to be there. leyla santiago. thank you very much for that. and moments ago, the man charged with murdering cash. app founder bob lee was in court in san francisco. police say that suspect many and lee did know each other, but the
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nature of their relationship remains unclear. was stabbed to death on april 4th. cnn's veronica miracle is joining us now, so veronica veronica, what more did we learn today about this really tragic case? well abby neema momeni was supposed to be arraigned today, but that arraignment actually got continued for another two weeks, so he will officially be arraigned on april 25th. but we did see him for the first time he entered the courtroom wearing an orange jumpsuit, a shaved head. he did not have any handcuffs and his family was sitting in the front row in that courtroom, two of his family members, his sister and an older woman actually held up their hands in the shape of a heart as he entered the courtroom showing their support. he acknowledged them and smiled. but he said very few words during this very brief arraignment. his attorney representing him today did have a few words to say to reporters after the hearing. take a listen. the facts will come out
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what is basically in the press and what's being said. the accurate as far as what occurred will come out in terms of time. and again he's going to be officially arraigned on april 25th, and that's when we should get more information. abby so veronica. this case really stirred up a lot of controversy with people, um, suggesting that it was tied to san francisco's crime, and the san francisco district attorney actually called out twitter owner elon musk for recklessly and reckless and irresponsible statements after musk tweeted out something about lee's death, so what's happening there? a lot of people were quick to go to social media . elon musk was one of them. of course, he has an incredibly massive following. so the district attorney had some very sharp awards for him. i think you know, when people first found out about this, there was the assumption that this was a violent and random attack, and the facts are still coming out.
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but as we know, the district attorney says bob lee and november mini knew each other. so here's what she had to say during the press conference yesterday. i must point out that reckless and irresponsible statements like those contained in mr must tweet that assumed incorrect circumstances about mr lee's death served to mislead the world in their perceptions of san francisco and also negatively impact the pursuit of justice for victims of crime. romania's facing a murder charge , as well as a special enhancement for using a knife. according to the district attorney. he faces 26 years to life in prison. abby all right, veronica. miracle thank you very much. and florida governor ron desantis. he just signed a bill to ban most abortions in the state after six weeks, but the majority of americans they don't support going that far. so what could it mean for his possible white house run? we'll
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get an abortion up to 15 weeks. it also prevents doctors from prescribing an abortion telehealth, and it requires medication for abortion to come from a physician. not by mail, so it's important to note that, according to doctors, some women don't even know that they're pregnant until after six weeks. joining me now is cnn's chief political correspondent and co anchor of state of the union. dana bash. so, dana, this is a little peculiar. ron desantis typically has these big signing ceremonies. there's a lot of attention on everything that he does, but on this, he signed the bill around 10 30 last night in a private ceremony, even tweeted about it. and never mentioned that it restricted restricts abortion. after six weeks. what do you make of that? as our colleague david chalian said earlier, he's trying to walk the finest of lines because he's clearly trying to play the short political game and then the long political game. he's trying to
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play the florida political game , and he's trying to play the national political game when it comes to the short game and the florida political game, which i think are have the same playbook . it's trying to be as conservative as he possibly can . he continues to try to push issues and passed laws. was this time very successfully that make florida looked like texas and that clears that is clearly a deliberate strategy. but just because of the fact that he signed it so late at night, as you pointed out that he was very careful in the way that he tweeted the substance of the new law that he signed in florida is keenly aware of the politics nationally, and, more importantly, the politics when it comes to. republicans and how they are faring when they are up against or they are. their future is being decided by voters other than the base by
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independence and even by some moderate republicans who do not like this, and we've seen from wisconsin a couple of weeks ago across the country voters going out and punishing republicans and supporting democrats on the issue of abortion. yeah i mean, and it's not just ron desantis tim scott, who just announced an exploratory committee really stumbled a couple of times when asked about what threshold he would have for restricting abortions. are you hearing republicans talking about the need do they feel there's a need to sort out what the party's position is on when it is appropriate to restrict abortion at the state or even the national level? well, you know, you remember this abbey. they've even stumbled on the sorting out part of it because remember back before the 2022 midterms senator lindsey graham of south carolina , tim scott's colleague from south carolina. he tried to he, he said he thought help
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republicans by having a national response to 20 week ban. doing so legislatively federally in the united states congress and that fell like a thud with a lot of his fellow republicans not interested in that for lots of not go over well. it didn't go over well, but for political reasons, and for policy reasons , because a lot of republicans genuinely believe it should be a state issue. that's a long way of saying no, there clearly is not a way to ah to unify this message and, more importantly, to unify the policy because republicans are genuinely all over the map on how it should be approached on a policy level, which leads to political troubles. so, dana before you go today, we're seeing a slew of republicans. donald trump, mike pence. desantis tim scott and the key haley all appearing in one form or another in front of
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the nara's convention in indianapolis. this is coming in the wake of two major mass shootings in the last month or so, um, i mean, we've talked about this really for forever. it seems, but what do you make of what it says about the nra's power in this moment? it's his. it's his strong as ever, and republicans who are seeking higher office and seeking to do so understanding that you need the gop base to get the republican nomination for president or, frankly, for any elected office that they are still in a place where they want more guns, not not fewer guns in america, and it's just so different from the conversation . we were just having about abortion. these are two obviously very distinct national policy debates going on in america, but they have such different political consequences in the eyes of many republicans
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, and frankly, many voters because there has not been any indication that the fervor with which, uh, that what we have seen with mass shootings and the fact that many republicans, i would say most republicans are still very much for almost total gun rights that has not hurt republicans and until and unless that does. i don't see this changing. yeah it certainly doesn't hurt them in the primary. i think that's one of the ways in which those two stories are kind of similar. what's good for republicans in a primary, maybe a little bit different for them in a general election context, but we'll see. we'll see if that stays stays the case in a general because so far, but i agree. all right, dana. thank you for coming on. good to see you, as always. and we have new details into cnn about the justice department's probe if donald trump's handling of classified documents, prosecutors are now asking multiple witnesses about how trump has paid for their
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like how they were paid, and if their attorneys tried to influence their testimony in order to protect trump questions have focused on a group of witnesses who either work for trump or if lawyers that were provided by him. so joining me now on all of this is norm eisen. he was the house judiciary. special counsel in trump's first impeachment trial. so norm, you might be familiar with this kind of line of questioning. it seems to kind of go to this idea of perhaps obstruction. what is it suggest to you? um well, abby, the issue is donald trump attempting to control witnesses so that they will testify favorably to him? ah, ah, ah and unfavorably to the government by using inducements and one form of possible inducement is for trump save america packed to pay for those witnesses, lawyers and of course, we all know the allegations, cassidy hutchison
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saying that hurt trump paid lawyer. her first lawyer allegedly encouraged her not to be forthcoming. that kind of thing can be obstruction of justice. but this is a very tough area because it's common. it's normal in my practice. i've had this for a third party fee payer corporation of political party or another to pay for individuals fees because these fees can be so crushingly expensive. so out of all the things jack smith is looking at . this may be a tough one to show impropriety. i think the issue here i guess would be whether they were trying to influence testimony in a way that may not be truthful, but i do want to ask you about another case. this is the dominion voting systems. $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against fox news selection begins monday, and the opening arguments will come shortly after in these last
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few weeks. these pretrial hearings, dominion has had a lot of momentum. the judge actually just sanctioned fox news for withholding evidence. i wonder, you know, going into this trial this week. what do you see as the biggest hurdles here as this case unfolds for both fox and for dominion? the biggest dominion win has been getting the judge to rule that the statements that fox made were false about how dominion supposedly affected the election . that means that their dominion is not going to have to prove falsity to the jury that is going to be instructed to the jury. they've had a series of other wins. i think the toughest hurdle is going to be the damages issue. dominion has said . now they had a win on that they are going to be allowed to argue their expert is going to be admitted to argue that they suffered as a baseline $1.6 billion of compensatory damages
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and that can be multiplied several times over for punitive damages. but can they prove that 1.6 billion? that's where battle is going to be joined? but boy abby, just looking at the things that have been said and done. ah the damage seems substantial will have to see what the jury decides. yeah and also i could add to that the actual malice part of this that they knowingly told these lies as well. seems to be a pretty significant hurdle they have to face. thank you, norm eisen appreciate it. thanks, abby. and cnn's nick paton walsh and his team recently hiked a massive migrant trail from south america to central america. it is called the darien gap, and there are no roads. people must walk carrying everything that they own through this dense jungle, rushing waters and steep mountainsides. the team did this walk over five days, and the stories that they found on that journey are simply extraordinary. take a look.
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1000 unaccompanied children were found on the route last year, the u. n have said. nick paton walsh is joining us now. wow just heartbreaking to see such a little boy separated from his family. do you know if he was ever reunited with them? yes and he was and it was very heartening to see a couple of days later him on the shoulders of his father. they were separated because essentially, the father had the difficult choice. many parents face of how on earth do you physically carry your young son up a very steep climb? very muddy, very hard at
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times for adults to traverse. you can pay porters to help you with that. but the risk is, of course, that they race ahead and like in this case and you know longer see your child wilson ahead of you, but they were reunited. but we are seeing now record numbers of children on this trick well over 10,000 at this point so far this year alone and still the numbers of people doing this walk this perilous five day trek through snakes, criminals. exhaustion dehydration. anything you could possibly imagine. that was a record last year at a quarter of a million so far this year in the first quarter of this year, they're looking at seven times as many as the first quarter of last. so if that continues that puts us at a million for this year alone. these are staggering numbers that cause traffic jams , frankly of people in the jungle, trying to get through certain chokeholds in the root, so staggering to witness this volume of humanity moving through the jungle. abby extraordinary story. i can't
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wait to see it. nick paton walsh. thank you so much. and you can watch the rest of nick's incredible report the trek a migrant trail to america on the premiere episode of the whole story, with anderson cooper this sunday night at eight p.m. eastern time. only right here on cnn. we'll be right back. when you're the leader in disaster, cleanup and restoration. how do you make like it? never even happened happened. let it rain, randi. being prepared for anything. whatever comes your way. there's a pro for that serve probe like it never even happened. on the left your sensation and on the right closest, the alcohol free, gentle mouthwash that works without the burn closest
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thursday to award a total of more than $8 million to these two individuals. the mayor apologized, saying that if supervisors had done their job in 2017 chauvin should have been fired and george floyd would not have been murdered. abby yeah. very disturbing videos. thank you, natasha chan. and that does it for me, and this is the final weekday edition of cnn newsroom at one o'clock, but some good fun news on monday afternoon, the edition of cnn news central will launch with jim sciutto, brianna keeler and boris sanchez . so please tune in for that, and there's plenty more news after the break right here on cnn. double check that that's pretty good. yes not c crying. e you taking that? what was that? that? no don't worry about that . here we go. question can greatly impact your future qualified to do this. what specially when it comes to your finances. do you have a question? are you a certified
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