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good evening. tonight we learned a lot more about the air national guardsman, federal authorities say is responsible for perhaps the worst leak of classified material in a decade . airman first class jack to share his family had nothing to say, leaving federal court today in boston. earlier they watched him brought in shackles before judge he entered no plea to a pair of charges under the espionage act, unauthorized retention and transmission of national defense information and unauthorized removal and retention. of classified documents from material will remain in custody until the detention hearing next wednesday . as the hearing ended, a man in the courtroom shouted love you, jack to share a did not look back, but responded you, too, dad. according to the government's court filing on clt , the it specialists received top secret security clearance into 2021 may have had access to more sensitive material, the filing says. he quote maintained sensitive compartmented access to other highly classified programs, end quote and that he began posting classified documents in december of last year. they showed up and the

social media platform discord, the filing says. he used his real name and home address and his building information on the site. president biden today issued a statement saying, in part i've directed our military and intelligence community to take steps to further secure and limit distribution of sensitive information. international security team is closely coordinating with our partners and allies. he also weighed in late today on his way home from ireland. there's no way to protect how long an investigation will take. well i don't think it's gonna take very long. i think we're getting to the bottom of quicker than joining us now with his own new reporting, cnn chief intelligence and law enforcement analyst john miller. you've learned more about how the fbi was able to track down the suspect. so in these cases it was lightning fast. you really have a five day case in case you know, a leak investigation can go on for weeks or months, but it starts with the disclosures that this stuff is out there. the fbi comes into its sunday night going into monday morning. and they start with dropping

subpoenas and search warrants on discord who owns the servers to a preserve anything they have so it can't be deleted and be turnover, subscriber information and any content. that leads them to some ip addresses and another connections, but basically by monday there at the home of an 18 year old boy in california. he's a member of this server and they're talking to him. his mom , then his lawyer, and finally they agree he's going to sit down and cooperate with the fbi . and what he tells them was i was part of this group. we were gamers. we did war games online . the guy who ran it was this guy o g or original gangster, meaning the senior member of the crew. and i did have a video chat with him and his. his name was jack and he worked on a military base in during the video chat, which goes back to january, he said, you know, i

was copying these classified documents so i could put them in the chat room, so you guys can see them. but i realized, you know, i'm going to get caught literally kind of transcribing them at work, so short cut the process. i started bringing the classified documents home and then just photographing him. ironically the thing he was doing to not arouse suspicion ultimately leads to him being caught because you know the document i looked at said t s top secret, hc. i human compartmented information that's information from human sources s. i signals information picked up by groups like the nsa tk talent keyhole that satellites from the national geospatial agency. no foreign don't distribute any country outside the five eyes so this material is what was going out there and the billing address in the name for the server was jack teixeira at that address in massachusetts. um yesterday, they circle back to the 18 year old in a show him an array of

still photos a line up and they say which one of these faces is the guy you know, is jack. he pointed to the person that they identified as to share that gave them the final piece of probable cause to move in. which of course, we've all seen on video. how that went yesterday, anywhere clarity about why this guy allegedly leaked this information we know everyone's been saying ego of all the options of the way people usually do this. you know, as the case unfolds, will probably learn more. but just as an analyst looking at him having seen so many young soldiers and airmen in classified environments and looking at them and saying they're you know they're so young. here is a guy who since he was a little kid. i was interested in war in guns and weapons and planes in tanks . he carried books and magazines about that, based on the interviews that cnn is done with friends. and during covid. he assembles this group in this, you know, they're all locked down at home, and they play

their war games on the discord server and they swapped their stories back and forth. but he's the guy who now has the cool job . his two worlds merge in the daytime. he's going to work where he's working in a classified facility where the gamers aren't gamers. they're not playing. they're flying real drones and real war zones targeting real terrorists, sending hellfire missiles and predator drones with reapers, and that's all going on. and he's the guy in the background whose job it is to keep all those systems running technically during the day, but he's exposed to all that material. he brings it back into his pretend world and shares it now his two worlds are basically colliding. but once it spills outside his little group of 25 people onto the internet. real documents with real classification markings that was the spill the leak into the world wide web that he couldn't stop. fascinating john miller. thank you appreciate it. i want to bring in cnn legal analyst and former deputy assistant attorney general elliot williams, also cnn senior political commentator and former

illinois republican congressman , adam kinzinger. he's also lieutenant colonel in the wisconsin air national guard. um country congressman, were you surprised to learn that suspect had a top secret security clearance. and i mean, listen to john. it's so fascinating. about how these two worlds sort of merged. yeah i wasn't surprised by it because you know, getting i have to go through that process. every however many years it is where you get your top secret clearance. renewed. um he didn't have much of a record. i mean, what? what? what they're looking for with the top secret clearances, things like financial instability. obviously if you had any contact with foreign empty stuff like that, but somebody so young with such kind of an empty slate more than likely, you know, tripped no red flags, and it was easy for him to get that clearance and, you know, look in the military environment, 21 years old, maybe to all of us here seems kind of young, but in the military environment, it's not all that young. lot of people are 18 19 years old. i'm actually the old guy in the military 45 so not overly surprising, but certainly

this is a it's sad. it's sad for the guards sad for the country and ultimately probably sad for this kid to elliott based on what we know right now. what are the suspects option? as for a defense, i mean, how much could his fabi riding on whether you cooperate with the government? i think a tremendous amount anderson. i don't think he has a lot of a defense here because this was a case that was built largely over electronic materials. and so you have communications. you have records of documents or information that he would have shared online. you have text communications where he's having with other people. the crime is committed via computers, so there's really not much of a defense here. i think you know what's not call it a defense but maybe at sentencing if he is convicted. what he can say is number one. i served the country number two. i don't have a criminal history number three. i thought i was doing something righteous, but most importantly , number four. i accept full responsibility for what i did. each of those four things

identified are ways that a convicted defendant could potentially lower his sentence. but those are defenses to the crime. that's just lowering the sentence. he might get get once he is convicted john i mean, in terms of cooperation, he may have more documents. um. i mean, i don't know they need to have like a secret hiding place for them, but he may have more information that you could at least give more information easily to authorities that might help him write a really interesting question, because, let's say that's the case where he had all these documents, and he had them hidden at home. there's a period of time where he knows they're closing in on him. he's seeing these articles in the washington post the new york times and that's the time when someone in that position may well have gotten rid of those documents, which, if it's found to be the case is just an additional charge of attempted obstruction of justice by destroying evidence. when you look at what he could be charged with the two charges now unauthorized use of the government classified system and unauthorized disclosure of the documents. once they get a sense of is it 100 documents? or is it

300 documents? does it zoom out to 500 documents when they have it all counted up and accounted for each one of those is going to be a separate count, so these charges could really pile up. congressman cnn has new reporting tonight that unsurprisingly, joint chiefs chairman mark milley is deeply concerned about the national security implications. that's quote of the leak what can actually be done to better safeguard sensitive intelligence ? if it is you and others have said there are legitimate reasons. that many people have access to it. well look, i don't think we'll ever be in an environment where we have no doubt that it's always safe. but i think there are things that can be implemented. i don't know the you know the how easy this would be technically to do. but you know that maybe there has to be a system where if anybody accesses classified information, they have to have somebody with them while they do it so you can no longer access something alone. you know, you think about when they launched nukes. you have two people with two keys. right so something along that line may be possible. and then we have to screen again. look

there is this belief. so edward snowden is one of them. and this this guy maybe kind of had this as a thing where they kind of believe that they have the right to determine what gets declassified. they have a right to, you know, quote unquote righteously show the american people. i don't know if that was this guy's case. i know edward snowden was under some false impression that he was some hero when he was really just a traitor. um that's got to be screened out because we can't live in this moment where somebody that's 20 or 21 years old believes they can set the foreign policy for the united states of america and, frankly, honestly, probably cost ukrainian lives in the long run with this leak, congressman kinzinger john miller. elliot williams, thanks so much next word. today's last minute action by supreme court justice samuel alito. means for the availability of the abortion drugs. chris stone, also with the high court may do next, and later the convicted killer protester. black lives matter rally texas governor greg abbott now wants to pardon him tonight , though, is the man's social media postings come to light and newly unsealed court documents include racist comments he made

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to maintain access to mifepristone, but under older, more restrictive rules, justice alito stayed the ruling until 11 59 wednesday night, while the court considers an emergency appeal from the biden administration. he also talked we already i should say you also asked plaintiffs to respond on or before 12 pm tuesday. joining us now is cnn senior supreme court analyst joan biskupic. she's the author of nine black robes inside the supreme court's drive to the right. and its historic consequences, also with us cnn anchor and senior legal analyst laura coates so, joan, can you just explain? why was it solely justice? alito who made the decision was that would you expected? ah yes, anderson. it's great to be with you tonight. first of all, samuel alito is the justice responsible for emergency appeals from the fifth circuit. all the regional circuits are divided among the justices, just for this reason to be able to act quickly, and i actually did expect this kind of action. frankly it's very sensible. just think of what's

happened over the last seven days since we first got that ruling from judge cause merica in texas. there's been so much confusion there have been conflicting rulings. there truly has been chaos in the idea of what would be available to women beginning tonight, which was when his order was going to take effect. so this just gives everyone a chance to pause. it's only five days, but it's a way for the justices themselves to take a serious look at the briefs and decide should they themselves here. orel arguments should they let this play out at the fifth circuit, which is already now scheduled its own set of oral arguments for me, 17th what should be the next course of action? of course with the department of justice would like is for the justices to make sure that these lower court rulings that went against the food and drug administration then essentially allowed judges themselves to put themselves in the shoes of the fda rather than have the expertise of the agency prevail, whether the court will

actually interfere with that, anderson you think it would be a mistake to read anything to leaders decision beyond what it is a temporary administrative stay? at this point? yes, this is really just a procedural step and likely to go to the full supreme court. remember we're not going to resolve anything by that wednesday deadline. it's really a time to figure out one of two things. are they going to schedule oral arguments or they're going to kick it back to the fifth circuit, and either way, it's not going to be a finite ruling because this process continues to unfold. and i want to mention although it was a lido, remember, it was his famously now his draft opinion that was leaked ultimately became the opinion for the dobbs decision. in whole or, in large part, the fact that he is the one to write. this is not indicative that he will eventually rule the same way. there are different consequences here. the dobbs decision was about overturning roe v. wade on a constitutional basis, whether you have the constitutional right to access and have an abortion. this is an

administrative issue under a thing called the chevron doctrine, which essentially says look, the agency that is tasked with actually overseeing a particular problem, deciding whether they should be actually authorized or not the scientific basis for doing so, we're going to let them stay in their lane and drive this particular car. we're going to defer to them. if the supreme court looks at this issue, the look at the notion of do we want a chilling effect in the fda is ability to give authorization and handed over to a judge or remain in the hands of the person in agency charged with that very notion. john when the supreme court over teen turned review, waiting the dance case last year just cavanagh road in his concurring opinion, quote the court's decision properly leaves the question of abortion. for the people and their elected representatives in the democratic process. how does that position square with the possibility federal judges overruling the fda? it's interesting anderson. he specifically said that the lower court judges shouldn't be

bringing their own policy and moral determinations. which are you believe the u. s. district court judge in texas did. he also said he made a point of saying that the supreme court was not outlawing abortion nationwide that states that wanted to allow how abortion within their boundaries still could do that. and that's why i do think this case is different , because if all of a sudden the supreme court would allow a lower court judge to substitute his own view of what is safe and effective in drugs in america and roll back all approval for this first pill of the two step medication abortion protocol, it would effectively make abortion illegal in the states that, uh, uh or ineffective in the states that do allow it simply because that is the main method that women who are trying to end their pregnancies in america these days are using for abortion and laura. i mean the

justice department's already making the argument to the supreme court that the plaintiffs don't have standing, which is obviously a legal term to challenge this drug in court because they neither quote taken or prescribed the drug and the fda approval. does not quote does not require them to do or refrain from doing anything. how strong an argument do you think that is? well versed on the issue of standing. it's really a way of saying, why are you the person coming before the court to ask me for some kind of relief? you gotta show me that you have some particular skin in the game here, not just a hypothetical or ideological dispute that has to actually be a controversy or in some way that you're actually harmed. they're going to have to prove that because why you've got this writing periods going to take place the deadlines not just for the supreme court to mull it over internally right now and then turn over to the entire nine. it's really for the people who are asking for the court's review or defending against it to say, show me what you have. show me your cards here. this is the time to put up or shut up. why are you the proper party to

be before this court? why are you aggrieved or harmed in some way, and also they're going to have to address the fact that you've got a 23 year history here. why now? why this time why this drug laura coates. jump ascorbic. i appreciate it. thank you coming up. texas governor greg abbott wants to exploit the pardon of a man convicted in the killing of black lives matter. protester now, newly unsealed court documents show he has a history of racist comments and violent threats. if you wake up , thinking about the markets and want to make the right moves fast. decision text from fidelity. you'll get proactive alerts for market events. before they happen and insights on every buy and sell decision. zero commission online us stock and e t f trades for smarter trading decisions. decision tech from fidelity. i told myself i

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texas governor greg abbott is rushing a push to pardon this convicted murderer. foster's family and longtime partner have called the governor's call for a pardon. disgusting this has been a complete nightmare, court documents show, perry talked about killing people and shared racist memes and comments on social media, including a 2019 message saying too bad we can't get paid for hunting muslims in europe and in a facebook message in may 2020 just months before the deadly shooting, perry wrote. he might have to kill a few people on my way to work. another text said. i might go to dallas to shoot looters. perry's attorneys called the release of the documents of political move by prosecutors and said foster also made posts advocating violence in this 2020 post. foster praised the burning of a minneapolis police station. perry's attorneys are calling for a new trial, saying they want to introduce evidence that foster repeatedly instigated confrontations and was the quote

first aggressor. when the murder happened on july 25th 2020 perry, now a 35 year old army sergeant. worked as a rideshare driver and had just dropped off a passenger near a blm protest. prosecutors say perry drove into the protest and instigated a confrontation. perry's attorneys say foster, a 28 year old air force veteran motion to perry as protesters were beating on his car practice something some of our right was legally carrying an assault style weapon. that night, perry had a handgun in his car, and at some point in the exchange, he fired multiple times, killing foster during a police interrogation. perry gave several versions of the position of foster's gun is going even. do you know, also told police he did not try to kill foster honestly did not want to want him to die, or i wanted to do

was state them. texas jury rejected his claims of self defense. lavandera joins me now from austin has governor haven't commented on these newly unsealed documents that show these racist messages. well we reached out to him today and the we got a one sentence response from his spokesperson. it's very different from the initial plea that the governor had put out the day after daniel perry was convicted that he was pushing for a swift pardon, but this statement today read simply all pertinent information is for the board of pardons and paroles to consider, as this is part of the review process required by the texas constitution, so the governor has to wait for that parole and pardons board to issue its recommendation. no timeline on exactly when that is going to happen, though, anderson lavender appreciate it. thanks still ahead. 2024 gop hopefuls taking the stage of the nra convention, which of course , taking place in the wake of the mass shootings in nashville and louisville, plus gop rising

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hutchinson, who announced his bid for the presidency earlier this month. other big names like former south carolina governor nikki haley in florida, florida governor ron desantis appeared via video. international correspondent kristen holmes has the latest. i was proud to be the most pro gun pro second amendment president you've ever had in the white house. i will stand with each and every one of you and protection of what we all know is comments it concealed weapons permit holder myself my husband as a hunter, and we value the fact that citizens have the right to protect themselves. the national rifle association convention highlights the sway the nra still holds with the republican party, even amid a rise in mass shootings in the us, including those in kentucky and tennessee in recent days, i speak with everyone here. when i say that our hearts and our prayers are with all the families that suffered loss and injury in

these unspeakable attacks. former vice president mike pence called for mass shooters to be punished more quickly. i believe the time has come institute, a federal death penalty statute with accelerated appeal to ensure that those who engage in mass shootings face execution in months, not years, several contenders suggested policymakers should focus on expanding mental health resources and armed guards to protect schools. if you're going to protect children, you need to have armed personnel to protect the children. we know the crux of these issues it's under diagnosed mental health. is the lack of opportunity in schools. former president trump delivered the closing remarks at the forum , promoting his actions to expand gun rights while in the white house. obama's unconstitutional effort to ban three d printed guns. i stood up for our hunters, fishers and sportsmen. like no other

president has ever done before appearing via video. florida governor ron desantis, who has seen as trump's top rival for the nomination, touted his efforts to expand gun rights in the sunshine state governor. i've resisted calls to take up gun control even when such a stand is superficially unpopular because i understand that it is precisely at those moments when a right is unpopular. that it needs true champions. the conference also marks the first time trump and pence have appeared in person at the same event after their public split following the january 6th attack on the u. s capitol as the two former allies appear on a collision course in 2024 gop primary. and christian homes is there for us now. what sort of response did the former vice president and the president and the former president get well, first of all, anderson. i do want to note that they did not overlap. pence spoke early, and he left almost immediately afterwards for a donor retreat in nashville. they too, have still not spoken in over two

years now, when it comes to reception, this was very much clearly the former president's event even walking into the event that billboard that listed the speakers had a giant picture of former president trump with wayne lapierre, and just some of the other speakers were in tiny pictures next to it, and the energy and the crowd was exactly the same. trump got a standing ovation at the beginning for several minutes. he also got a standing ovation. at the end. lots of cheers and pence's reception was not as warm. he was booed at the beginning and at the end, but i will say he took it in stride. at one point when the booing wouldn't stop at the beginning, he said. okay okay. i love you, too, making a joke out of it. but this is going to be what the former vice president has to face if he does decide to enter this 2024 race, there's still a lot of contention and a lot of tension. comes to the relationship between the former president and the former vice president. christian homes appreciated thanks. meanwhile florida governor ron desantis is in new hampshire tonight, making his debut visits the first in the nation primary state for republicans. to headline the new

the new hampshire republican party's amos talk dinner. cnn's jessica dean, is there. so what more can you tell us about the governor's visit? well anderson. this is his first trip to new hampshire as governor, and, of course, he's still undeclared in any gop presidential primary in 2024, but that didn't stop him from really touting a list of accomplishments that he sees that he's had in florida as governor over the last several years, one source familiar with his team's thinking, saying that tonight and these appearances that he's having across the country in early states and key swing states. is about really sharing what they consider to be a story of success in florida. the florida success story and they really want to spread the word and really give to santa's a chance to introduce himself to conservative voters to gop voters all across the country. and as i mentioned he did go through and really ticked off a number of things that he's done as governor in florida. and it was interesting because he did not mention any of his potential rivals by name, but he did. the

closest thing he did was talk about how he doesn't like drama , which, if you're listening to it, you could take as a subtle swipe at the former president. listen to this. i don't have time for drama. i don't have time for palace intrigue. i want to make sure that we're executing the agenda and you know what's happened over the last four years. we don't have leaks. we don't have drama. all we do is get the job done day after day, and that means we beat the left day after day week after week month after month, year after year. and anderson that's really core to his arguments and his pitch that he was making tonight essentially that he is an executive with his eye on the ball that he's going to do what he says he's going to do when it comes to that conservative agenda and that he's not going to let any drama kind of swirl around him that he wants to be laser focused on that. and this is, of course, a

chance for him to really test out any enthusiasm. what enthusiasm there might be for his brand of leadership. should he jump into the race later this year, and i did talk to some people who were in the crowd just to kind of take their temperature and one gentleman. i talked to said that he was very impressed with the list of deliverables desantis had that that was impactful for him to hear about the things that he had promised to do. and then things that he had accomplished last night. the governor signed florida's new six week abortion ban into law today spoke the conservative evangelical liberty university in virginia. he didn't make mention of it during his speech, and he mentioned it tonight in new hampshire. right no, he did not mention it tonight, and that is worth noting, because, as i said, he did go through so many specific achievements that he had there. but we did not hear him mention that specifically at all at the event tonight, and as you mentioned anderson, he was at liberty university, and he really the closest he came, was saying that he and his administration had promoted a culture of life. but again, not really harping on that at all. he had signed that six week abortion ban late thursday night

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porter raced off ahead. we. he'll soon. that way. you know they're here. we, eric. i mean miami miami. who. cascade through. right. we. nearly 1000 unaccompanied children were

found on the route last year, the u. n have said. nick i mean, it's just so heartbreaking that little boy wilson out there on his own, you know? did he get in touch with his? i mean, did his family find him? did you encounter a lot of kids on the track? yeah staggering amount. frankly wherever you looked, you would see children often very young and often also to bizarrely engaging in the task ahead of them. sort of energetically bounding up hills seeming so incredibly resilient , but it's shocking to see them on this trick, particularly given the knowledge that adults struggle to complete it often adults die indeed, on this sort of check. wilson the boy. you saw that? yes a couple of days later, i was deeply troubled that he may have been permanently separate. active from his parents, but we did. magically see them back together again. but this is often the issue here that parents who are deeply struggling to move themselves their own equipment, their own food, sometimes engage

porters to carry their children for them, and those porters are a lot faster race off ahead and wilson's case end up separated. his case ended happily, but we do hear others where that separation doesn't end. final unification answer. you and your team, your producer natalie guijin, and your cameraman breece lennay. hike this trail from five days in february in the in the story that you put together in the documentary. some of the migrants on the trail with you told you that they wouldn't have attempted the track if they knew how dangerous it really was. was a harder than you thought it was gonna be. yeah i mean, look, you know it's going to be difficult, but we had the knowledge of that, and then we had the resources of cnn to mitigate it. so we were wearing equipment carrying equipment with the assistance of porters to help us carry our equipment as well, all of which total thousands of dollars worth of assistance. and still at the end of it. i looked down at my feet and it was surprised there was still attached to my body, frankly, half the time. it's exceptionally physically grueling. even if the only thing

you i had to do in my case was carry a light backpack. and talk to people as you move. we kept seeing parents carrying all the food their family might need, sometimes their children as well walking at times, with flip flops, croc type shoes, small backpacks, football shirts, startling at time to see exactly how poorly equipped some people seem to enter. this particular challenge. a lot of that is down. i think to the sort of propaganda the sales campaign that the cartels the human traffickers, that's what this basically is voluntary but at large trafficking operation, what they say to people before they undertake it that it's not going to be that hard that it's going to be a few days. you don't have to really pack that much, and then they enter this. they see the terrain they see how much longer it possibly is than they had ever remotely. imagine how much more food and everything they should really be requiring, and that is when the panic sets in and to the danger frankly, because they suddenly realized how poorly resourced

they are as they begin this challenge anderson extraordinary this hour. i mean, you really take the viewers. on this 66 mile journey through through the dairy and gap and meet the you know, put names and faces to people, um, along the way, and then there's the realization that even after they make it out of the daring gap, they still have they want to try to get to the u. s. they still have 3000 miles to the u. s border. uh and if they're thinking they're going to apply for asylum that's going to take even years if they're even able to do that, even able to get a hearing and there's a very good chance they will not be granted asylum because fleeing economic hardship is not enough to be granted asylum in the us yeah, absolutely. and i think that's what times really depressing about all of this is that you're meeting people along the way who showed phenomenal determination , grit. they endure physical challenges, which, as i say, we

there voluntarily times your one day. how am i going to keep going through all of this, but a lot of them are seem to be fueled by times. poor information, the belief that maybe some interpretation of us government statements might mean that they have a better chance next week than the previous week. it seems it doesn't really matter what the us government says, at times that is often passed or interpreted as suggesting people need to go now because later it will be harder or now is a good time because the conditions have improved. whatever you hear from people they seem to think when they get there now is a good time to try it and walsh. it's really extraordinary. what you and your team did. thank you. tune in sunday night at eight p.m. eastern and pacific for the first installment of the whole story on cnn just ahead tonight. president biden left ireland tonight, but not before making an unexpected connection with someone who knew his son beau in the final moments of his life will explain next. this electric

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his son beau last rites was there. biden as you know, died of brain cancer walter reed medical center almost eight years ago. father, frank o. grady served there before returning to ireland, but met with o'grady for about 10 minutes. grady reportedly said that the president, he could laughed. he cried. it just kind of hit the man, he told the different local media outlet. the quote. he certainly misses his son and that quote we talked a little bit about how grief can take several years. cnn's donie o. sullivan was in ireland has more on the homecoming for president exploring his family roots. i don't know sometimes if joe biden's irish war all american warrior may serve allah gaelic for i'm at home. i only wish i could stay longer. biden may be facing crises, including a major intelligence leak in the united states. but here in ireland, he's received a hero's welcome the country's weather, not dampening president biden spirits. what do you think of the winner? mr president? it's

fine feels wonderful. i feel like i'm coming home. cupcakes are all baked for him, and it's a big welcome for joe, is that first the president visited county loud on ireland's east coast, where his great great grandfather immigrated from more than 170 years ago. the irish love american president so much what is it about it? america is our second country. during the famine times and the bad times that we had with our neighbors, all of people. immigrants went to america, the mobile comm with open arms as you wear yourself donate in ireland, biden seems to have cousins everywhere. so let me just get this straight. so your grace grace grace. grandfather was joe biden's great grandfather's cousin. good think that's the yes yes. first cousin, second cousin, fourth cousin. that's pretty close because my dad is person yeah.

elena on ireland's atlantic coast, we meet two of the president's youngest cousins, lauren and emily. blewett town is so excited. such a boss. welcome home. welcome you've been gone. gone too long. come on, ng joe, and close the door. locals here say biden's great, great great grandfather, edward bluish sold bricks for the construction of the town's cathedral in the 19th century, and then he used that money to move to america. so this this here is because it would have been the fireplace basically. yeah wow. more breaks, ernie caffrey says this is what remains of biden's ancestral home here in berlin. ah ernie runs caffrey's gallery in the front window. a biden portrait painted this. yes i am friendly with the owner of this premises

and it was passing down on saturday last saturday. and with popping in to say hello. i got an ocean actually. afternoon. i said, i'm going to go home and i'm going to do a painting of job so he did. what does this mean today community? that means a huge thing to build a huge thing to me or people becoming for years to see. where did he come from? and do it yourself and joins us now. that was delightful. did you run into any people this past week who are not? distant cousins of the president of the united states. yeah um, you know, the genealogists here in our islands anderson. i think they deserve raised their working overtime. look as you can see, there are people really, really proud, particularly in this community in county mayo, where biden tonight addressed thousands of people who packed the keys all along at the river mouth that goes true to town. so it's very , very excited about it. lots of

people claiming they are his cousin, as you saw in that piece to lots of people. claiming different items. you know, bricks off walls and things that are somehow linked to biden's answers street although locally people here calling some of those claims into question, however, the man you saw in that piece there, ernie calf cafferty , he actually presented the president with a break from that fireplace you saw in the piece there today, so that is on its way on air force one now back to the us with the president. they didn't give you a lift back. he didn't know i'm stuck here in the cold talking to you. don't you have fun? it's great piece, tony. thanks. the news continues next right here on cnn. hello and welcome to our viewer